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Round 10 - Barcelona - Sprint Round  ;)

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Booking: 18.15 (for drivers not in the entry list)
Practice: 19:15 (60 mins)
Qual: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30 23 Laps (approx 40mins)

Cars allowed:
All GT3 class cars
Bentley add-on car:- link from my dropbox:-
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mya0htvomf12umf/bentley_continental_gt3.zip?dl=0
Install to :- C:Program Files (x86)SteamSteamAppscommonassettocorsacontentcars
(Only if not already installed from Round 1)

Track: Barcelona (Moto layout)

Optional skins:-
nsfw Nissan GTR:- https://www.dropbox.com/s/c77ewqkl6gdkb8n/Schulze_Motorsport_Blancpain.rar?dl=0
Mark Ekins Lambo Huracan Konrad Motorsports car  https://www.dropbox.com/s/btf51n59rdu95nh/Konrad_Motorsport-BES2016_29.rar?dl=0
Lukas LDG Bmw Z4:-  https://www.dropbox.com/s/a2xk88qp5z791jp/LDG_Z4GT3Livery.rar?dl=0
Linus' Nissan GTR:-  https://www.dropbox.com/s/v2blhbzbxeqk00q/gt3_09-nr3.rar?dl=0
Georg Sieberts McLaren 650S skin - livery: Gulf Racing Mclaren #36
http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/ks-mclaren-650s-gt3-gulf-racing.8986/
(only if not already installed from previous rounds)
Paul Mclouds Z4 skin:-   https://www.dropbox.com/s/84ek48knxjhqdgf/dZeta.Z4GT3.rar?dl=0

Time of Day Setting: 13:00
Weather: Clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: Not required

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=100
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=0
SESSION_TRANSFER=N/a

All drivers not in the Entry list must be booked in to race before booking closes at 19.15 U.K.

PLP App - Not used in this series. Cutting will be monitored on replay and penalties issued for excessive cutting.

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=560&theme=4)
(3) Please use the Driver Details page to ensure that the league management software has your correct name

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Can we not have a random race length each time?

According to the track map the Blancpain Sprint Series will be using the Moto layout, I would prefer if we use it as well.



Agree with that, why not 35 mins?

Oops you are right, it is the Moto layout.

As for time length, several of you complained that 35mins wasn't long enough! It's last race of the season so 40 mins it is, think of it as a finale special length edition  ;)

The longer the better  ;D

Maybe so but really they should be fixed for the season.

They were, it's only the last two that have altered  :angel:

Tried  acouple of laps here offline (As the server isnt setup) and found it trickier than i thought. kept losing it under braking, and that long 2nd corner is a killer.

Yes it's a difficult test of driver and machine this one. You have that very long straight asking for low downforce and yet several fast corners demanding more downforce and several change of direction turns too. A setup nightmare!  And you have to keep your tyres intact!  :P

Longer the better for me as well :)

How the pros do it  :)

https://youtu.be/eZ8eZIL2-P8 (https://youtu.be/eZ8eZIL2-P8)

And in AC :-

https://youtu.be/HEXGJEYEuro (https://youtu.be/HEXGJEYEuro)

Any chance of having the server up for this? Thanking you!

It should be.... sadly I'm not able to try it. Stracker's live map makes me think it's there.

Not able ot check in game yet, but this...

http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat (http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat)

Still shows the last round.

Nevermind, i guess no one had put laps on it. Server is currently password protected by the race password, had to look in LM2 for it!

Interestingly That lap i went wide before the last corner, got a message saying i'd gone off, but it still recorded the time. Might need some policing of that last but one turn.

Whoops - password removed and server restarted

Interesting watching the current 24hr race going on a Barcelona via MotorsTV here in UK, trying to learn lines etc lol

I want that gold livery on the lambo :o

Talking of learning lines I will be jumping on the praccy server this eve for some much needed practise. About 7.30uk time if anyone cares to join me  :)

I hope to be on at some point tonight.

Race laps set to 23.

http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat (http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat)

blinking 'eck Jeff  :o  nice time  8)

Good track this and nicely detailed by the Kunos boys. Feels like a good test track as you can feel the differences you make in the garage, whether good or bad.

Hi, i am quite sure i won't be back home in time tommorrow to catch this race with you guys.Hopefully i can just make the start.

Completely off topic, but when working on some Aero stuff yesterday for my S2 Transit, i took some notes on the GT3 field. Thought some would be interested to see how to fair relative to each other (obviously take with a pinch of salt, these are default setups which we all know are pretty sub-optimal).

I found it interesting to see how light the Merc AMG GT3 (and Nissan) are of downforce compared to the rest, and how much the McLaren 650S has. And I know the SCG003 isn't technically a GT3 car, but you can see how efficient it is compared to the rest.
Also, I noticed how reliant the 488 is on the Wing for downforce at the rear, whereas the other cars diffusers are much larger proportionally (except the Nissan).

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Sorry boys but it's highly likely that I won't be home from work in time to attend the race on Wednesday, just sending apologies now in case i'm not back in time, I'll do my best to get there, if not have fun and enjoy the race :)

thanks Gary, very interesting. 488GT3 is heavily aero'd but surprised at those figures, having so much on the front. Been running the wings app, interesting seeing the changes but havent found how to extract the numbers. How did you do it?

Literally just took a screenshot for each vehicle (on a completely flat track) at 100mph, then noted down the numbers from the App. The spreadsheet worked out the efficiency and total CL/CD.
Its more effective and representative than checking the App in real time than actually reading the CL/CD numbers from the AOA files, since the car is always changing its AOA with speed, height changes with speed, area of each wing acts as a multiplier etc etc.

And the 488 still has a pretty normal Aero balance, 47% front. Its surprising how little it relies on the floor/diffuser, meaning you its probably much less sensitive to height at the rear than most.

going to try and make this one.

Amazing sheet Gary. I'm running 0-4 wing on Barcelona, and it is still a lot faster through fast corners than some cars with more wing. So your numbers confirm what the car feels like (overpowered  :P).


What wing app? :)

Thanks :) yeah the 650S looks to have plenty of aero, and its very efficient too.

To see the Wing App (along with some other interesting apps) is a Dev app, and must be enabled in one of the .ini files (assettocorsa.ini I think, set "devapps" to 1).

Really interesting to look at and understand what the changes you make are actually doing to the car (especially height changes, as dowforce should increase the lower the car is up to a point, where it will stall and you lose all downforce, and rake).
I also like running with the Suspensions App, as it shows the slip ratios, allowing me to tune the brake bias very easily.

Noooo... your fast enough Jeff dont need you going faster :P

Haha, yeah I was hoping the quick guys already knew all the setup tricks in the book. Here's me studying all this physics stuff and still lapping 5s off the pace  :laugh:

I'm not sure if I'm really any faster than I was at the start of the season (I still cherish my pole at mugello... :P), but I'm definitely better at racing more consistently (though still admittedly a lot to improve).
I do think I cope better at long races now though, before the first race I'd never done any race longer than maybe 10 laps, and even then it was very rare. I remember the first one felt like a 3 hour stint to me, whereas now the 35-40 min races do definitely feel like sprints.

Looking forward to the final race, hoping to grab a point or two to finish the season off. Any thoughts on starting a new series for next Wednesday? Different class? single make? I'm up for anything, I'll even lend my WIP Transit to race if you like  :D

I love all the race engineer techie stuff and was even tempted to do an online diploma course in it. But never enough hours in the day  :'(. I used to get a buzz using motec to adjust dampers etc in gtr2 days but haven't found the new acti one as user friendly for AC. Have you got your own motec workbook for AC Gary? Wouldn't mind using it if you have.
It must be proof of how good the McLaren aero is if you can run 0-4 wing at Barcelona and set that Laptime. I had to steadily increase my wing on the Bentley to gain time as my tyres were scrabbling away in the faster corners losing grip.

Ah yes, I have devapps on. I've looked at the apps and thought, I have no idea what I am looking at, and never tried them again  ;D. Will try them again and maybe put a bit more time in them, as now I am jsut downloading setups, untill I find one that works  :P.


It's really just the car. That 650 GT3 feels a bit overpowered if I am honest, and with hindsight, I shouldn't have picked it. I just didn't know at the start that it was this good, and during the season I got used to the car, which made the gaps to other cars bigger.
I tried a few cars at Barcelona, and with most, I was able to get them close to eachother within a few laps. And then there was the 650, which didn't require a whole lot more to be 1 second faster.

Nah, fraid not Mark. I've used it a couple times before but found it not particularly easy to use, plus the main think I wanted to use of for was checking aero levels as well as the heights of the splitter and diffuser, which apparently it can't do.

The dev apps do the job well enough imo, just define the speed you want to test at (100mph seemed a good place to start, should be representative of the fast turn 3 of Barcelona) - then drive at that speed on a flat surface and take note of the levels, and see how height changes things. Be careful about lowering too much, as it can stall under braking or compression (Eau Rouge is tough to stop that happening).

I often have the app open while practicing, just keeping an eye on things at critical points on the track, its easy to get distracted tho so I turn it off for the race.

I'd post a pic explaining all the values, but don't have access just now. Here's what I remember off the top of my head.

CL = Coefficient of Lift, positive number is downforce, negative is lift.
CD = Coefficient of Drag, higher is more drag.
AOA = Angle of attack, watch as the whole car (thats the BODY Wing) changes its AOA which then effects all the others, this is Rake essentially which is the only way of changing the angle of the diffuser (and splitter in some cars).
GH = Hieght of wing in mm, Front Wing and Diffuser are the only ones that depend on ground height. Lower is generally better, until a certain point where it will stall, and you will see the CL of that wing drop significantly.

Tot CL = the Sum of all Wings CL, easy to see how much DF a car produces, as it should stay relatively stable
Tot CD = the Sum of the Wings CD, again shows how slipper a car is
@%Front = Shows the Aero balance, usually a value of 45 is recommended, though its driver preference. When checking this make sure to be going at a decent speed (>30mph really) as the diffuser stalls at slow speeds, which skews the result
EFF = This shows the efficiency of your aero, which is just the ratio between DF and Drag. Higher is better
Tot DownF = In KG, this is the result of everything above at a given speed. This of course changes with speed unlike the Coefficients
Tot Drag = Same as above but drag.

A lot of it is probably self-expanitory, but hopefully this is helpful to some  :)

Really interesting all this in depth tech explanations. I usually made setups by trial-and-error. ;D

Guess I'll try the dev apps tonight for some practise and see if I can try to make some sense of it.

Lots of those terms I know from flight training, but there I had to learn them to lift off, not to stay on the ground as much as possible  ;D

Few good end of season fights to be resolved in the final race of the series  :)

We have the top 3 all able to win the series  8)
Myself and shark fighting for 4th (best of the rest!)
Kai and Georg duelling for 5th/6th
Picnic, Linus , Gary and Spanner fighting over the next few places, all within a few points of each other.  :fencing:

Tally Ho!  ;D

Yay finally under 1.45 :angel:

But also tried out the F488 which thought about for any future GT3 season, but until they get the rest of the GT3's on the same tyres i cant see. My first timed lap was a 44.8 and ther next was going to be at least 7tenths up until going off (offline of course) Its just too quick and easy on its tyres, certainly compared to the lambo.

Just a quick note, I'm 99% sure the 488GT3 is still on V7 tyres, the same as the rest of the field. Kunos didn't want them on different tyres, so we will get all the GT3 cars on V10 with the next update (we were supposed to get it with the last, but needed some tweaking and they wanted to avoid messing with people leagues until it was sorted).

Gary just beat me to it  8)

Tried the lambo offline and the tyres were overheating slightly, something I don't have with the Merc. Had a good lap tonight but it wasn't a good one for the race, going sideways in the corners. Seems to be a one two for the mcLaren tomorrow  ;D

Btw, how much of the outer curbs of the last 2 corners are we allowed to use?   :angel:

Oh...ok. moan cancelled!

Yes the tyres on the lambo are interesting here! Have noticed a 20deg difference in temp across all four. Have managed to adjust the pressures so they are around 33psi but the tempertures dont help with the grip

I think we can safely use the green apron in those two turns but 'try' to keep two wheels inboard  ;) I do wonder if those aprons might get a bit treacherous once your tyres are worn and try to spit you off late on  :-\

Re: tyres, yes I get disparate temps across the car width but find when you really do push the car they all turn green  :)

Not sure if I'll be back home tonight in time for the race, so if not, have fun guys ;)

Oh no not there to fight for the championship win?! That's terrible  :(

Upto Georg and Maikel to take the fight to Jeff then, don't make it too easy for him  ;)

Also known these days as....yolooooooooooooooo

Or as driving like Verstappen  ;D

I don't think I'll be able to keep up with the McLarens though.

Ah well, seems 3rd in championship standings is gonna be it. Maybe second if Georg and Jeff crash and Nsfw doesn't make it back in time..... but those are alot of if's   8)

I'm hoping to improve upon my Maldonardo style and lift myself up to the dizzy heights of a Plato hehehe

(note to self, do not hit Kai ....... AGAIN) :)

I'm hoping to not do my usual Jolyon Palmer and spin whilst racing nobody  :laugh: And I'll try to do a Esteban Gutierrez and hold everyone up when lapping me  :P

Will be on tonite will keep well out of way
 :angel:

no one satisfying race

Big congratulations to Jeff on winning the first SROUK Blancpain gt3 series...you sir are the champion  :notworthy:  :clap:
Congrats also to Nfsw and Maikel for the runners up spots.

Many thanks to all that raced this season, I thoroughly enjoyed it and quite chuffed to finish 'best of the rest' in 4th place  :thumbup1:

Well done all, it was a corker  :)

Congratulation Jeff for winning the championship and to the runners up.

Many thanks to Mark for organising and running an amazing championship. Superb work sir. Totally enjoyed every race and can't wait for the next.

Many thanks guys  ;D

What a great ending to a  great championship. Gratz to Jeffrey for the win and Nfsw for 2nd.

Realy enjoyed the race. Started 4th but saw that Nfsw and Georg had a little bump I think. Managed to pass Georg and kept gaining slowly on the Nissan. Thought the McLaren would fly by me but seemed it had some damage and was off pace. Was real close behind Nfsw in one corner when he started lagging and he just dissappeared all of a sudden. Didn't notice any lag before but all of a sudden I was in 2nd. Had Georg breathing down my neck so I had to keep the pace up. Kept the gap between 2 and 3 secs.

Strangely enough the realtime app was abit weird. I noticed Georg was lapping about half a sec faster then me most of the time but the gap kept the same as before.  ???

Ah well, I actually enjoyed the Mercedes aswell. Quite fun to drive and it just sounds so awesome.  ;D

Big thanks to all the people setting up the championship and all the advertising to keep the grid filled. :thumbup1:

After the close qualifying fight I had a quiet race really. The first lap was great (and clean!) and promised plenty of action but then Shark went off at t1-2 and apart from a few close nibbles from Gary for a couple of laps, I ended up pulling quite a gap by race end. I enjoyed keeping Georg and Maikel in view  :o for 20 of the laps but then my tyres really turned bad and I cruised until the end. Maybe 40 mins is just 5 mins too long for a gt3 Sprint  :-\ but this track is quite hard on the tyres.
Not sure if the guys battling further back thought so with worn tyres?

Finished 4th in race  :)

The Top 10 of the championship as it finished.  8)

1 Jeffrey   193.0 McLaren 650 GT3 
2 nfsw55   164.0 Nissan GT-R
3 Maikel K.   158.0 Mercedes AMG 
4 Mark J   85.0 Bentley Contin… 
5 Shark   80.0 Mercedes AMG 
6 Georg Siebert   61.0 McLaren 650 GT3   
7 kaifos   52.0 BMW Z4M 
8 Linus27   39.0 Nissan GT-R
9 picnic   36.0 Lamborghini Hu…   
10 garyjpaterson   34.0  AMG

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Wahay! 10th in the Championship Standings!  ;D At the start of the season my goal was to finish in the points at every race. I was close, missed out with a terrible race at Paul Ricard and of course completely missed 4 races due to BTs wonderful service...  :laugh:

Anyway, top race, top season - Big thanks to Mark for organising the whole thing, and crucially badgering over at the AC forums where I was introduced. Massive congrats to the quick guys up front - Well done Jeff for coming out on top! Also cheers to Maikel for representing and bringing glory to team Merc  :P

Great community here, and I can't wait to get started again with whatever is next! Thanks all :)


As for the race, well I'm very happy. Couldn't find the pace in Quali, but had a decent start and somehow made up a couple of places in the first lap or two. Was able to pester Mark for a few laps, but soon became preoccupied with Kai, who was relentless  ;D I managed to keep in behind, but it was far from easy, and for the second half I was able to manage a small gap, but Mark was miles down the road and I just wasn't nearly quick enough.
Definitely my most consistent race, laps all reasonably close (by my standards), and crucially never spun or came off the track! Very happy with that. I was lapping better near the end, but tyres weren't up to it and couldn't beat my time.

Anyway, thanks all the the racing so far. Looking forward to whatever's next :)

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Getting the tyres to last a lap during qually was a challenge. My first lap was the fastest for me, as I just couldn't string together 3 good sectors.

Had a good launch and decided to take a defensive line for T1, as I expected the Nissan to try and come by. Nfsw tried to outbrake into turn 1, but went a bit wide. I did not want to be stuck behind his car, as that is where the weakness of the McLaren is, trying to overtake cars which are fast in a straight line.
After turn 1, I immediatly had a gap of 2 seconds, which I was able to keep for the start finish straight.
After seeing Georg put in his Q time on mediums IIRC, I was worried what his race pace was going to be. But from race posts here, I think he had some damage, which compromised his times.

Mixed feelings about winning the championship, as it really felt it was due to the car.

Thanks Mark for organizing the series, seems like yesterday that you started the ball rolling.

Next week GT2 at Barcelone for 45 minutes? If we decide quickly, it will help attendance I think.

To think we had to pester Mark to run GT3s as he didn't think they would be popular!

Was enjoying the racing until I fell off in the first corner losing two places, must have just have been the tyres finally biting me. Was just trying to follow Simon hoping to close down Michael in the Nissan as he had stretched away. Gutted to see that Michael and Simon somehow got ahead of Kai in the BMW as well.

Oh well, has been good fun all season tbh, great cars, I hope we do carry on with the GT3s. These have been the highlight of the week for me.
Need something with a bit more bias over the front so was probably go with the Audi but needs a greater effort to extract the time! or the Z4... or the Ferrari....Agh too much choice, too many toys to play with.

Yes, next week, need this fix to continue

I think a quick GT2 race at Barcelona next week would be fun but can we make it an hour and up to the driver to decide strategy. That way we may get people trying multiple stops whilst others may try just one stop. Will really be fun seeing those who can make the tyres last against those who will push hard and may need another stop. We also won't know quite where we are in the overall battle :)

Congratulations to Jeffrey for winning the championship, to Mark for organizing and planning the races and doing all the other stuff over at the AC forum and thanks to all the other racers that made every race interesting and special. :)

Yesterday's season finale started as expected. No chance to follow Jeff and Georg in their flying McLarens, lost more than one second per lap.
It could have been a nice fight with Maikel during the race though, but unfortunately I had one single lag during the race which catapulted me right into the wall ;D So found myself back in P10 after that with a highly damaged car and just enjoyed the rest of the race as the championship was already decided. Finished P9 in the end.

Looking forward to further (GT3) seasons  :D

My race was really really good fun. Set my fastest lap of all week on my first qualifying lap and started 7th so I didn't bother going out again. Made an average start and followed Mark in the Bentley down to turn 1. Half way through the first lap I had an awesome side by side battle with Kai but he started to warp a little and after last weeks incident I felt it was better to let him go than risk another incident. I felt it would be better to maintain a 5 second gap to him and see how the race panned out.

I then had a really intense race holding back Simon in his Merc and Mark in his Lambo. Simon was so much quicker than me in a few places and could attack in the braking zones. The only way I could keep him back was to kill his momentum mid corner on the slower corners and then use the Nissan's power on the exit to generate a gap to him. It pretty much worked but only just. With around 10 laps to go, I started to close back in on Kai. He had been having an intense battle all race with Gary and so it looked like his tyres were starting to go. Mine were totally fine still and with 3 laps to go I was with him and he was really struggling. On the last lap I managed to get past as he ran wide and ended up finishing 6th.

So an intense race and great fun. Loved the whole tyre management side of things and could of kept going for much longer as my tyres were still good.

Err, I don't think so old bean!   :P I have always been very pro gt3 and touted they are always the most popular class in AC  :walkman:

I can run a gt2 race at Barcelona next week though was intending to use some new content as I haven't tried any of it yet! But that can wait a week.
I think I will be running another gt3 series next based on the Gt open series, though I will change some of the tracks as they use most of the circuits we just used in my Blancpain series. As much as I would like to have run an alternative series, it's just such hard work filling the grids and I think we are all enjoying more fuller grids in the races rather than a handful of us in a niche event.
But let's give the gt2's a crack next week and see how they are since all the updates.

I would also like to thanks Pete 'Picnic' Allnut for his help throughout this season sorting the server side of things, also Dave Gymer for some admin help and GaryP for his help in making the Bentley BoP'd and physics sorted to make the series. Cheers chaps  :)

Ah, I wondered what had happened to Kai at the end. He was pushing super hard for quite a while, he fell back a bit, then came right back again, then fell back and never seemed to make up the ground again. I was thinking his tyres must be gone, as mine definitely were - had to move my brake bias forward a bit as I was almost losing the rear in each big braking zone.

I'd seen you were catching him up on the last lap but i was too focused on not spinning I hadn't noticed you'd overtaken him.

GT2 at Barcelona sounds good. Curious to see what differences the v10 tyres brought.

Time to get that Corvette out of the garage again.  8)

Is mirroring a real life series really worth the hassle? Did it add more to this series (honoust question). I liked the tracks for this series, but it didn't really interest me that it was same as the real series.
I think it will make your life a lot easier to go with your own tracks, seeing as this series took a lot of effort.

Maybe use the best tracks from this series, the default tracks that weren't used and some of the best add on tracks (like Road America).


Totally forgot about them  :-[ . The men behind the scenes  :)  :thumbup2:

I thought mirroring a real life championship gave the series extra kudos to be honest and certainly helped to attract a few drivers from the Kunos site, ie made it more marketable. I think other drivers felt the same, competing for points in a semi official series. It's probably just you with your clinical will to master us all that had a detachment from the romance of racing  ;D

I must admit, the appeal of the 'Blancpain' stuff was enough to entice me to join, though now I'm here I really don't care what/where we are racing, just so long as we are.

Same here. I went to the AC Online Leagues / Championships room forum section and searched for a GT3 series. The "Blancpain" name attracted me the most as I'm watching the real series and went to Spa this year as well and now I'm here  ;)

Yeah my tyres were totally fine and I could see you ahead as well. Just wished we had more laps as I would of got you as well mwah mwah mwah :)

For me, as long as the tracks are high quality then I am happy. A lot of the 3rd party track are either too slippy or don't look good. So I favour Kunos tracks but do think Paul Ricard and Hockenheim are very good. Not tried Road America yet.

Same here, lap 18 and 19 my times went down, but 1 lap later I did a mid 42. Laps after that I wanted to repeat it, but kept making mistakes, but the tyres weren't perfect anymore, but still very capable.

Is there a GT2 server  up?

Sadly not as I'm a bit thick, that's why I'm slow driving too  :-[

What are the 3 GT2 cars mentioned in the other topic? I can see a BWM M3 GT2 and a Ferrari 458 GT2 but not a 3rd one.

You are "special" Pete  ;). The Corvette is the 3rd one.

Aren't I ;)

Server up with all the same settings as last week's GT3 race except with some GT2 cars (I hope)

Thanks  :)

You're Welcome  ;D

Woohoo. Is it me or are the GT2 cars slower than the GT3 cars?

Not just you, I think it is normal. Sounds counter intuitive, for a GT2 to be slower than a GT3, but that's how they are. Think it is the difference in aero and tyres or something.

Tried all 3 cars, and they are a lot more equal than the GT3's were, not just by laptime, but also straight line speed.
Liked the fast they don't have ABS, that will make outbraking a lot more interesting.

They're actually slower if I remember reading correctly.. The difference in tyres is huge though. Much better grip all around and the softer compounds can last more then the 2 laps the GT3 softs last  :P

I tested the GT2 quite abit prior the V10 tyres and I usually found the Corvette was slightly faster, with the Ferrari and BMW tied. Which makes sense since they're an older model.

Edit; seems it still the same looking at your laptimes  8)

hmm, tried a few laps in the ferrari last night, so there slower and harder to drive than the GT3's? little disapointed

Not even a second slower and actually easier to drive, due to the grippy tyres. Only thing harder, is the lack of ABS.

I really liked the lack of ABS. Made braking really fun and challenging.

When I select GT2 cars in AC,mit gives me a 4th car. I think it's the P4 thing. Is that right? Also, are there any decent mods to add more cars, like the Bentley for GT3?

For you maybe Jeff, but we dont all drive as well as you! They just dont feel as quick. Certainly better tyres but are they carbon brakes? how well are they modelled, temperature buiuld up. The lack of ABS does make it tricky, but i guess they brakes are also more powerful with it. To stop the locking up i end up just trying to carry more speed in the corner anyway, not braking as much!

Can we get a thread up for the GT2 race, 33 laps (around an hour)?


I compared my GT2 time with my GT3 time, which differt a second. Doesn't matter who does the comparison, I guess your times will also differ around that.