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GT2's at Barcelona

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Booking: 18.30
Practice: 19:45 (30mins)
Qual: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30 33 Laps (approx 60mins)

Cars allowed:
All GT2 class cars

Track: Barcelona (Moto layout)

Time of Day Setting: 13:00
Weather: Clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: 1 stop (mandatory)

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=100
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=0
SESSION_TRANSFER=N/a

PLP App - Not used in this series. Cutting will be monitored on replay and penalties issued for excessive cutting.

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=560&theme=4)
(3) Please use the Driver Details page to ensure that the league management software has your correct name[/quote]

I have assumed we resort back to the booking system but to be honest I'd rather use our regular driver list (minus the several kop outs who never showed up). That way any of our regulars can turn up right until race start as I know some get home late and the shorter list will free up spaces for the booking phase who fancy a bit of gt2 action but aren't on my list.
If Pete my trusty server man agrees I'll edit the race post. Will also add a banner when I get near a PC next.

If you give me an entry list file MJ I'll use it. But you'll need to know what car each person wishes to use and I for one have no idea  ::)

i am going to use a corvette

ah!..good point, guess we'll have to use the booking system then  :-\ that ruins the pre race practise community too  :(  prob too much to sort out within a couple of days and make everyone aware. That's the problem with one-off races.

I'll be there, probably in the BMW :)

It will be very tight if I can make this myself. Work ends at 9pm, so with a bit of haste, I should be home around 9:30. Will leave the PC on and the steering wheel on the desk  ;D

I'll definitely be there, not sure what I'll drive though - I've barely touched the GT2 class. Out of curiosity, is the Glickenhaus P4/5 thing available? Should have decent enough parity with the rest, and would add a bit more variety.

Isn't that thing terribly uncompetitive?

I prefer the Corvette, but depending on what people pick for this race, I might change to the thing least picked.

I'm thinking this also. Don't want to have a race full of one car make :(

I was also aiming for the Corvette but wouldnt mind something else.

And the P4/5 is nowhere near the GT2 cars. I did quite a few tests over at Core for the GT2 endurance races. It included the SGC and P4/5 aswell. The SCG was almost on par with the Ferrari and the BMW, it just had the GT3 tyres unfortanely. The P4/5 was several seconds slower and a pain to drive  ;D

Haha, fair enough if its a lot slower, I wasn't sure.

I love the sound of the Corvette but seems theres a lot of takers so I'll probably go with the BMW, or maybe Ferrari. I'll hopefully get some time to test them and see which I prefer.

Will probably go with the BMW. Corvette is nicer, BMW is in the middle and the Ferrari I seem to suffer worse from locking up and being a bit too err... rear biased!

Seeing lots of picks for the Vette and BMW, guess I'll fo Ferrari, eventhough I hate it  :P

I haven't driven any except the Ferrari about a year ago. Will try and get some practise in over next two nights and make a choice. Prob be either the Vette or Fezza for me

I might go for the Ferrari if too many people in the BMW and Vette.

I had a quick go in the Ferrari earlier and thought it pretty tasty  8) a definite improvement over the early version which I found almost undriveable under braking. It felt like it cornered quicker than a gt3 though braking distances are longer and need to be more modulated with aggressive downshifts to shrug off speed, so you have to alter your driving style a bit.
Will try the vette too tomorrow.

Can't stand the 458, but for the test race I will stick with it  :-[.

The server has 32 times on it, so it is attracting quite the attention.

That's interesting! I have put a post over on Kunos. They removed my race thread saying a site like ours cannot have more than one race thread  ::) so I had to add it to the end of my Blancpain thread - silly rule. I explained the Blancpain was finished!
(Edit sorted now as they renamed the thread for me to a general league notice thread for us)  :)

I have only tried the default 458 setup but it felt good. Will try a custom one too.

An un-passworded server running standard cars will always attract attention.


http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat (http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat)

I certainly don't mind other drivers using it as it gives us more laptimes to compare against  :)
I would also ask that if any of our regulars are on the server with these random drivers then strike up a chat or mention the race that is to happen on it soon. Some may bite and join in the race   :)

So the race will be passworded? If so can it be put into LM2 so we can see it at the top of the thread?

What makes you think it isn't already? I just looked on lm2 and its there

However is out there.... I know what you did ;)


Its like it wasnt linked, No lap records shown, no sentences about password will be released or your registered to drive under...

Ok, I'm going to take the Ferrari tonight. It's slower for me than the BMW but I just fancy driving for the Prancing Horse tonight :)

If I am able to join, there probably won't be any time to qually, so I'll start at the back most likely.

I have a similar predicament to Linus as I am slightly quicker in the vette than the Fezza. I haven't really driven either in a proper race so will choose one tonight. I haven't got a proper setup for either so just used a mildly tweaked default so far, just not had time.

Re LM2, don't know why but there was a double entry in there both identical but as soon as I removed one, the correct race thread info showed up.

Jeff, like it will take you long to make your way to the front  :laugh:

Hi guys, had a quick go with Vette. Feels pretty nice and racy and better too on this tyre version as to what i remember.
However as my pc is already struggeling with 10+ cars combined with the heat over here i think i will give this one a miss. I'll spend my time sourcing for a replacement desktop i quess  :angel:

Dont worry, its too warm over here at the moment! Though really you typically only talking of a couple of degrees warmer than normal so hopefully your PC isnt that on edge!

I'll be going with BMW, even though I haven't had any real practise with it what with all the heat ( stupid late summer  8) )

But do we need to book now or is it just the same as usual?

EDIT; Just booked the old fashioned way too be sure  ;D

Yes remember to book in before 19.45 uk time chaps  :).   See you in there.

Bugger, just got in and just missed the booking slot time :( Any other way to join?

Guess I can't get in because of that stupid booking  ::) >:(.

Seriously, why go for the booking system on a fun race...

Just watched practise run down and then qualify and still no luck in joining so I guess that's it.

Is it possible to not use the booking system and just have the server password protected?

 :-[ Didn't realise we were booking stupid of me till next week then

That was great. Love those cars they have just the right amount of power, grip and braking to make the car interesting but not beyond humans. You actually have to brake in a straight line, use the pedals properly not just mash them like you do with GT3 and steer more carefully.

Maybe if ABS and TCS was banned from GT3 they'd be more lively? Not sure, still wouldn't be as fun as the GT2 I don't think.

Thanks for hosting. Hope we do a series with these beasts.

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It's the game that's stupid, if we don't run a booking period then all drivers must be in the entry list file which means pre-selecting the car and skin you're going to use. At the 2 people changed their car choice during the booking period tonight.

Looks like our sneaky shortened race means Dave's importer got it wrong!

It was actually a pretty fun race considering there were only 7 of us. Kinda glad we shortened it to half an hour though.

Had some fun battles, although I might have taken it a bit too easy at T1 on the opening lap  8)

The Beemer was quite fun since felt like I was going sideways through half the corners  ;D (though it couldve used some setup tweaks here and there)
Still hope there will be more GT2/GTE cars in the future, still wouldn't mind a series with them as they are, the lack of ABS ( and turning the TC down  ;) ) definetely adds some spice to these cars.

For a fun race you wouldn't need an entry list, as skins don't matter. You can just set up a race with a password but without the booking.

Might have helped if you guys had shouted up 'before' the event  ::). It clearly said 'booking' in the first race post so we had time to lose that option. Must admit I thought you could only do a race with booking or pre entry list but then I never go on pick up race servers.

We also dropped the race length to half hour sprint as just wasn't worth doing an hour long fun race with low turnout.
But Considering only 7 of us raced it was very close intense racing!  8). I didn't get a seconds let up for half hour. The cars are proper race cars and look and sound the part  :) all 7 cars stayed pretty close to each other too.

We could slot a series in using these as an alternate weekly series with gt3's  :-\  

Next week I'll use some new content, maybe the Maserati gt4 or something else. Still not driven it yet!

Rumour has it that we will be getting the first Porsche DLC in a few weeks time so I'm not sure what we are getting but maybe a GT3 Porka. If so, is it worth running a mini GT2 championship now if everyone seems to like them and then do GT3 after in the hope we have a GT3 Porka. Something like 6 races (Spa, Monza, Red Bull Ring, Zandvoort, Brands Hatch GP, Nurburg GP), each race 1 hour long, open pit option.

Yes I'm hoping the dlc comes in time for a new gt3 series so I can include my revered Porsche  ;D though I was intending to take a 488 for a run too. Just need an Aston now  :)

A short gt2 series would suit me but need to know its popular enough otherwise will run a different fun race over next couple of weeks until the new dlc.

Prey tell how, my understanding is the game needs to know all the cars that will be used before any real race session can begin. Thus you must be pre-booked or manually book yourself.

I'd rather have a seris than fun races, we all know how they were attetnded  :P. This race could of had 10 drivers, which isn't bad for a fun race on such a hot day. With a few regulars from the GT3 series, and you'd have a decent grid.


I don't know, but I looked here (http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?faq/dedicated-server-manual.28/) and found things like:

Example for a server in pickup mode
You need to insert at least a number of cars sections equal to the MAX_CLIENTS value or higher than that. So if the server is allowing 10, cars then the entry list must have cars from [CAR_0] to [CAR_9] at least.

I think that's how most open servers have it set up. It does mean however, that there will be a maximum number of cars to chose from (for instance, 8 of each brand), which is plenty for the grids we are getting.

The trouble with that method, especially with GT3s, is you don't always get the car choice you require. For example many tracks are pit limited (yes I know some have modded versions that allow more) to say 24 cars. The pre-selection method, which is how we run the practice server, would limit each car quantity to 3 when there are 8 car choices. Whatever method we use someone will no doubt find a way to moan.

Hence I said, for a fun race, why use booking. We would never reach the limit of 24, and I am sure we wouldn't get more than 8 people picking the same car.

For series I get the booking system, as it also helps with skins etc.

Despite not getting any practice in before hand, that was a really close and exciting race!

Struggled to hook up a clean lap in quali, and it was my first time on softs... (I don't know how others managed with them, they were cooking so much they were giving far less grip than the mediums for me). Eventually got a clean-ish lap in, and started mid pack.

Had a poor start but somehow managed to move up on the first lap (Jonzo had a small off and it was super close getting back on, trying to leave enough space while also defending Maikel!) Settled down and tried my absolute hardest to keep Maikel behind, and did so for a couple of laps but the inevitible happened when he took advantage of my mistake.

After that I was slowly losing touch with the three ahead, but was able to keep the three behind at an arms length. Near the end I began reeling in the front runners, though not nearly enough until Mark Ekins had a moment and I almost managed to catch him! I was hoping to keep on him and try and force an error, but just the next lap i made the same mistake and was very lucky to hold of the Peter.

Came across the line where I started, bang in the middle in 4th. Also with us changing the amount of laps i wasn't 100% sure when to stop! I almost stopped a lap earlier, thankfully I realised everyone else was still going...

Also, did anyone manage to catch a replay? Wouldn't mind watching the first lap again, think it was action packed!

I'll upload my replay when I get back in an hour or two.

I agree with Jeffrey on the booking system, it's great for championships but for single races you can just use the normal non-booking passworded stuff. (I'll admit, I raced on a few public servers  ;D )
Could try it next single race.

I like the gt2 short championship idea though  8)

EDIT; Replay https://www.dropbox.com/s/loqavt5xm435qyd/bmw_m3_gt2%40ks_barcelona-layout_moto_20160914220944?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/loqavt5xm435qyd/bmw_m3_gt2%40ks_barcelona-layout_moto_20160914220944?dl=0)

It would be a good idea to start sooner rather than later, hopefully people are still here from the GT3 series, and haven't drifted away just yet. Its not like we only get one chance at it, there will be events/ series afterwards when we can do something else if people feel they cant drive these/ what ever is chosen.

I understood that Porsche DLCs were going to be primarily road and old race cars. Don't think I remember seeing anything too modern, or a GT3 spec car that can be raced against other manufacturers. 'm sure they published what was going to be coming in the first pack.

Don't get so defensive Pete! It would have worked fine for the GT2s with only 3 cars each. Yes it clearly stated booking, so people cant really complain but it is a bit rigid in that you cant really join once booking period is over.


I jumped into the Corvette as it looked like we were a bit heavy on the BMWs with a minute to go! And that Gary can be quick on his day, Simon and MK I thought it might make things a bit closer.
Having Simon in front all race actually helped to calm down and not push too hard as I could only follow him round, so braking a little earlier. Felt like I could have gone a bit quicker tho at times! Hadnt really noticed the tires go off but I just had a lap or so of locking up and missing the same corners each time which allowed Maikel through. Almost had Gary on me as well in the last lap but he seemed to drop away.

Something clearly happened in the first corner or so as everyone behind seemed to change position!

Cheers for the replay Maikel, will check it out when I get home later.

I think the start was fairly clean from what I remember, I didn't see any contact but I think there was some switching of positions.
And yeah, I had the slowest most pathetic off's you've ever seen, I don't know how/why I didn't manage to correct it and keep it on the track  :laugh: It was the downhill turn 5, i'd already slowed down but just didn't get it turned, slowly ran wide then got on the gravel.

Anyway I'm looking froward to something again next week. I wouldn't mind driving something other than a 'conventional' car, maybe something vintage like the Escort or Alfa GTA, or go all out and try and tame the Mercedes C9?  ;D Whatever we're driving, I'm up for it.

The only two modern GT cars announced till now are the Cayman GT4 Clubsport and the 911 GT3 Cup , but i'm with you, if the 911 GT3R will be part of the Porsche lineup in AC then I doubt that it will come with the first of the three DLCs.

Have you messaged him to get it fixed when he returns from his holiday? (Don't want to be denied a rare win!) ;D ;D

I've not but being a fun race I believe it will be expunged from the records anyway  :P

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Fun? Aren't all races supposed to be fun?  :-*

A one off race rather than a series yes, but it was contended within the spirit of serious competition  :shifty: to which I did my usual zero minutes practice and just turn up with 5 mins left of practice to hack together some laps and hope for the best. :notworthy: