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Season 30 Amateurs Trophy – Round 6 – Nürburgring

We move to Germany to race at the legendary Nürburgring - Nordschleife. Since its construction (1925 - 1927), the Nordschleife has enjoyed a reputation as a terrifying and merciless route through the Eifel forests. An English journalist who visited the Nordschleife during the opening race on 18 June 1927 even concluded “that it seemed as if a reeling, drunken giant had been sent out to determine the route”. The Formula 1 pilot Sir John Young Jackie Stewart – after all a three-time world champion in 1969, 1971 and 1973 – was so impressed by the circuit that he gave it the name which it will probably never lose: Green Hell (Grüne Hölle).
Racing and winning on the Nordschleife has always been very special for racing drivers, because the track is one of the most demanding in the world. Tricky corners, treacherous crests, steep inclines and gradients and constantly changing road surfaces demand great skill from the driver and put vehicles to a hard test.

Race List = iGOR
Server = UKGPL_9
IP = see iGOR
Race date = Tuesday 20-09-16
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT/22:00 CET)
Track = Papyrus
Variant = 1965
Race length = 6 laps (45-50 minutes)
60fps patch used = 60fpsV2newmod
Damage Model = Int
Qualifying time = 30-45 minutes

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5 races, 5 wins for Philippe.

That's enough, ça suffit, Basta  ;D

The honourable thing would be taking a slower car (Ams have free car choice), but I'm not handicapping Philippe  ;)

Well Done Phil, keep up the good work!

Under my breathe; (hopefully he will want to be in pros next season so I wont have to race against him)  ;D <Ahem>

...es reicht !  :)

Since we are going to the Green Hell, I will play the devil's advocate (bad joke). My hope is that Philippe stays in the same chassis this season, but then returns to the Amateurs Trophy next season to defend his championship in a slower car. I should disclose that we are both driving for team Lotus.

Yes, why not.
After the ring, I choose brm, and next season, I stay on amateur, but only with brm - honda , ok ?
Brm, honda, are there slower cars ?

Ok Dave, don't you angry...!! ;D ;D ;D ;D :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Only the Cooper T77 and the Brabham BT7 are real slower cars (about 1-1.5s at most normal length tracks). Honda is a bit engine sensitive, but quite fast, especially at fast tracks. The BRM is my best ranked chassis, also very fast at fast tracks. ;)

Yes, the slower 65s are the Cooper and the BT7, the others are almost as quick as the Lotus but I don't think handle as well. I think the BT7 is great fun to drive but not very quick in my hands.

I don't really mind which division Philippe is in, fast and consistent people are fast and consistent in any car so I'm not likely to beat him in anything.

His Lotus times in some races would have put him on pole in the Pros so he could fit into either division.

I should be around for this tonight. I've had minimal practise but mostly know the track anyway.

ok, thanks

So, tonight, Nurburgring = cooper for me !

 :angel:

Philippe,
You have not won the championship yet. You should go for the perfect season in the Lotus. But it is your choice.

The Cooper should be great at the ring, but I would avoid it at tracks with long straights. You might be 4 seconds a lap slower at Spa, for example. Both the Cooper and BT7 are a challenge because you have to maximize every corner and straight. You may have to work really hard to overtake other cars, and then they will retake the position on the longest straight. Despite the challenges, Robert has been successful in the Cooper.

The BRM is fast in a straight line, but it is a challenge in the corners. So most people are slower in it.

Cheers,
Walter

I'm not competing in '65's this Season, but noticed the low turnout last round.  To encourage a large turnout, consider putting the winner in a slower car, or having him drive blindfolded.

Ah, that reminds me of my days in the Wazas where we drove by sense of smell with a white headband over our eyes............................... :ninja:

Having a few technical issues tonight with the PC. Still working on it but I might have to catch the next race instead.

Wow, I just checked GPL Rank to see the world record times at the ring. Could it be that the Cooper is 7 seconds slower per lap than the Lotus?

Try to be 100% on track at the Ring with this procedure!  ;D

On a sidenote, the only guy I have ever seen doing a 100% on track lap here is our one and only Carlos Cendejas!  :thumbup1:


Sorry to hear Blake. Hope you get it sorted! ;)


That's right. My T77 and BT7 PB's here are only 5s slower than my fastest 65 time here. Must admit both T77/BT7 are relatively my best 65 cars, easily in top 10 at both 65 rankings at GPLRank. You lose the most time at the long backstraight, but the curvy character at the Ring helps for the most part ;)

Great race, Congrats Bastian! Well done David R. and Philippe.

I was driving within my limits until I set my sights on David R. I would close the gap to David R only to make a mistake each time. And then Billy would close the gap to me. I felt a little bit like a yo-yo.

I was able to check my previous best lap times. I have done an 8:50.2 in a BRM and an 8:50.1 in a Honda. I will definitely give credit for my improvement to the Lotus.  :)

 

Congrats Bastian !  :clap:

Greats to all finishers.

 :stupid: I can assure you that the cooper is very slow :stupid:

 :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling:

Grats Bastian and podium! Too bad I missed the flag....

I found a graphics upgrade last night which improved to sightseeing - all 14 miles of it. I nearly finished the whole race with no serioud incident. On the last lap I foaund a bit of the new scenery so interesting it required close inspection from upside down.  The last half lap was interesting when Mike put on a late charge. What he did not know is that I am due a time penalty forr the stop & go, so 5th place is his
Philippe - there is no fixed rule on handicapping. You are unbeatable in the Lotus so it makes it more interesting for  the rest of us if you have a  slower car. The Cooper & BT7 are definitely slower. The Lotus, Ferrari, BRM & BT11 sqare all similar. The Honda has speed but does not handle so well. In your place I w4ould probably take the Honda. I am not moderating this series - this is just a suggestion.

I was a bit slow in the qualifying but ok. I managed 6 seconds faster, earlier that year.
A shame you missed the start Jani.

Before the race, i was getting into trouble. I had the Wheel Graphik Bug in my Brabham.
It was very disturbing and  i couldn't see my rev counter. I reconnected several times and switched from opengl to direct3d
without fixing the problem. But I was creating a new one. Even my frames were around 60, my machine was stuttering in and around corners and i could not really push. I was very happy not to crash too often and that phillipe was slow.

GRats to all finishers

Not sure what I'm doing wrong this season but I'm doing plenty of it . Thought the choice of Lotus might improve things but that was no help either , amongst other things  I found the lower seat position ( or is it a higher screen / scuttle ) gave a more restricted forward view of the track than i was used to , no help at all on those blind bends , maybe I should have stuck to the Brabby which i know well . The other obstacle was I only had half the graphics loaded in the race , the whole of the grandstands and pits were missing making the track a very different view from what I was used to .
Anyway enough of the excuses , I did a bad start which got worse as the race progressed , had a distant scrap with Dave C , passing each other a few times on the long straight bit .
2 s/r later forced me to retire from last place on the last lap !

Grats to the podium and all finishers .

 

This happens to many drivers - fix is made. :angel:

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=13989.msg252795#msg252795

thx Martin,
i forgot to put that on the new machine.

Had a fairly mediocre race with a couple of big hits that made the car a bit wonky.

Got into a bit of a rhythm late on and was catching Billy but not quickly enough until he had an off.

Trying to close him down I had a silly spin and fell too far back, luckily not too far back though. Good job I perservered and didn't do a SHIFT-R after rolling at the Karussell.

Forgot to say, I was briefly second.

Mod report is up.

You fell back to 6th, but after post race inspection you went back to 5th!  :angel: