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Title: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 04, 2016, 02:41:13 PM +0000
Championship standings HERE (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=542&theme=5)

Grid/server capacity: 22

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (26 laps, 1 lap rolling, 25 laps racing)

Track: Buddh International  Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg109873#post_buddh)

Cars allowed: Ford Capri Mk3 Turbo Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_capri3t)

Only the following cars are to be selected. CLASS A DIV 1 '81, CLASS B DIV 2 '81, DIV 2 '80 and DIV 2 '79.

Special Notes: Rolling start procedure will be implemented for this race. See below for details.

1) When qualifying ends drivers will join the grid as usual, before the timer countdown ends.

2) At the green light the pole position driver (lead driver) will be responsible for moving off at a slow pace.

3) The remaining drivers will follow the driver in front of them forming a single line formation.

4) The lead driver will increase speed as soon as it is safe to do so. The following drivers will match the speed of the car in front of them, whilst keeping a safe distance between them.

5) The lead driver will maintain slow/average speed for the duration of the lap until approaching the final corner when he will engage the speed limiter.

6) The lead driver will maintain limiter speed (limiter may be switched off) until the start line is reached. Having crossed the start line the lead car will begin race speed.

7) Following drivers may not exceed limiter speed (lead drivers speed) or attempt any overtaking until the start line is crossed.

Car restrictions: None

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: ROLLING
Tyre wear: x2
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: simracing.org.uk Monday
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 20, 2017, 07:09:05 PM +0100
A concern has been raised about cuts being a problem at this track. If during testing you are getting UNWARRANTED cuts please post here.
Thanks
Tony


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 24, 2017, 12:06:25 PM +0100
It is time to fork out some dosh for your racing here folk's.

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Please give whatever you can to help us.

Thanks for reading.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: BillThomas on June 24, 2017, 12:13:02 PM +0100
Thanks for reminder Tony!  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: Erling G-P on June 24, 2017, 01:59:18 PM +0100
Geez, what kind of morons designs these tracks?   Here we have these wonderful cars, capable of such high cornering speeds, and what do we get from the track - not one fast curve, not one!  All is 1st and 2nd gear corners  :censored:   It's as if they deliberatedly set out to make the most annoying layout possible..

Cheers,
Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 24, 2017, 03:41:06 PM +0100
I think there is one fast'ish curve.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: Ziu Bacubacu on June 24, 2017, 03:55:16 PM +0100
Geez, what kind of morons designs these tracks?   Here we have these wonderful cars, capable of such high cornering speeds, and what do we get from the track - not one fast curve, not one!  All is 1st and 2nd gear corners  :censored:   It's as if they deliberatedly set out to make the most annoying layout possible..

Cheers,
Erling

the worst thing are the kerbs too high on GTL version, compare with the real version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIET2AABDOE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIET2AABDOE), second point it s the tract between Turn7 and Turn8, on GTL version it s most short than real version it mean that is more difficult coming out of the  Turn7 the input on Turn8


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: Geoffers on June 24, 2017, 04:16:16 PM +0100
I must be a bit weird, I actually quite like the track. And yes I have once again done some practice! I had too as it was a new track to me.  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 24, 2017, 05:15:50 PM +0100
Just finished a full race practice and I have to say I have enjoyed this track a lot. True a lot of the track is 2nd/3rd gear but I like the flow thru the various turns. Anyhoo I have a bestest time of 1:56.7 in the Class A car.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: BillThomas on June 25, 2017, 11:49:16 AM +0100
Geez, what kind of morons designs these tracks?   Here we have these wonderful cars, capable of such high cornering speeds, and what do we get from the track - not one fast curve, not one!  All is 1st and 2nd gear corners  :censored:   It's as if they deliberatedly set out to make the most annoying layout possible..

Cheers,
Erling

Hear Hear!  ??? ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: 55steve55 on June 25, 2017, 11:44:59 PM +0100
I'm not aware of what the track looks like in real life so will race it as I see it.

Class B at 2:07 with hopefully room for improvement.

... now down to 2:01......


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: SpecialKS on June 26, 2017, 10:17:21 AM +0100
Was wondering if the track pictured in the loading screen is the right one.

Now find the right picture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddh_International_Circuit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddh_International_Circuit)

 8)

Still far too slow for competition... ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 26, 2017, 10:24:52 AM +0100
I think the picture is ok but the start/finish arrow shows the wrong direction!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: Erling G-P on June 26, 2017, 10:51:39 AM +0100
Take care tonight guys - the cars are easily damaged, and repair doesn't work..  :o

Cheers,
Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: EvilClive on June 26, 2017, 05:33:19 PM +0100
Just downloaded this track and attempted to drive these beasts yet again.  :-\

 If damage cannot be repaired, then my prospects for this race, on a circuit that certainly places a restraint on the turbo power are not good.   ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: SpecialKS on June 26, 2017, 09:46:11 PM +0100
Strange issue during race which I once registered long time ago: had an off just where the split time counts. So I missed the split time and
when I crossed start-finish line time didn't start again at 0:00 for the next lap  ???
That would mean: automatically one lap down, which indeed doesn't matter. But due to my usual back-pain I decided to quit.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 26, 2017, 10:02:48 PM +0100
Replay and results now posted


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: Ziu Bacubacu on June 27, 2017, 08:45:09 AM +0100
If i say that i love this track i m a liar, anyway it s gone enough well, not perfect all but enough yes. I m satisfied mostly for my pitstop, this has been perfect. I was worried because usually Geoffers and Erling are both the pitstop Masters and would have been problems if i was behind after my pitstop, in facts if i could earn from Turn5 to Turn15 on straights i not was strong and in this conditions it was difficult find a windows for an overtake. When i went out of pit lane my laps was on 1:52.5 1:52.7 i think 1:51.8 was possible but the risk was too high especially for S&G warning (i take just one) 1:52 was enough for recover some seconds on Geoffers, for sure he had problems on his pitstop.

Grats to Erling Grats to Geoffers
Grats to Matt, the situation on Division2 championship is very intresting among Clive, Matt and Bob. Who will win ?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 27, 2017, 09:14:31 AM +0100
Well I much preferred this track to Dubai, which I hated. I thought this circuit had a good flow to it and I liked attacking those 2nd gear apexes. Pretty lonely race tho. Unable to keep up with the pace of the fast guys in front of me so just concentrated on hot lapping.
Hopefully the next one at Sepang will be more interesting?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: Erling G-P on June 27, 2017, 09:17:03 AM +0100
Reading about the track, I realized it's another Tilke creation.  Fits the pattern well, as I'm in the camp that dislikes most of his tracks.  Flow through certain corner combinations, as Tony mentioned, was growing on me, but I hate 1st gear corners, especially with cars like these, and here there's no less than 4 of those. Track will thus never be a favorite of mine.

Chuffed with qual, as I knocked a fair bit off my pb, but nowhere near enough to challenge Geoffers, not to mention Ziu.  After the start, I found myself in the vacuum between the fast duo and the rest of the field.  Gaps to Geoffers in front, and Tony behind, were growing at almost the exact same rate. Thus looking to be a lonely and boring race.

Pitstop at the end of L13 went smoothly, and I was still 3rd when I rejoined. Two laps later, things were piqued up, when I passed Geoffers in the pits. Beginning of next lap showed a gap of 17 secs, with 10 laps to go. Had lost 1-2 secs per lap to him earlier, so concentrated on going as fast as possible. Next lap, gap had jumped to +20 secs, 23 or 26; can't remember.  Relaxed a bit, but a bit too much.  This plus a downshift mistake saw the gap drop alarmingly, so had to concentrate on getting some fast laps without overcooking it.  Fortunately held to the finish.

Grats to Ziu on win, grats/commiserations to Geoff for 3rd and bungling his pitstop.  Grats also to Div.2 podium.

Cheers,
Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: EvilClive on June 27, 2017, 11:35:02 AM +0100
Grats to those who can actually drive these infernal machines and to the podium.

Before I raise this issue let me be clear that I am not bothered by the end result, as I was never in contention for any glory...but having read the post by SpecialKS, I wonder if there is a glitch with this track??

I noticed at about 3/4 distance that Steve was suddenly in front of me, although I cannot recall him passing me. It was at the end of the race as I was trying to run down oldgeezer that I noticed that I was 2 laps down? But I believe I was only lapped once by Ziu and Co... at least I think I was allowing for their pitstops etc..



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: Erling G-P on June 27, 2017, 11:44:18 AM +0100
Grats to those who can actually drive these infernal machines and to the podium.

Before I raise this issue let me be clear that I am not bothered by the end result, as I was never in contention for any glory...but having read the post by SpecialKS, I wonder if there is a glitch with this track??

I noticed at about 3/4 distance that Steve was suddenly in front of me, although I cannot recall him passing me. It was at the end of the race as I was trying to run down oldgeezer that I noticed that I was 2 laps down? But I believe I was only lapped once by Ziu and Co... at least I think I was allowing for their pitstops etc..



I definitely only lapped you once, unless I should have passed you in the pits, but I had driver tags on in the 2nd half of the race, so pretty sure I would have noticed.  As Ziu wasn't 1 lap ahead of me, there's no way you could be 2 laps down. Seems there's something fishy here..  ???

Cheers,
Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 27, 2017, 12:35:43 PM +0100
If Steve could confirm the finishing order I can change the results, just let me know.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 27, 2017, 12:38:04 PM +0100
Forgot to say grats to Ziu for a perfect rolling start  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: EvilClive on June 27, 2017, 12:49:46 PM +0100
Tony, I'm not bothered about the result, That can stand as far as I am concerned.

Just trying to avoid any awkward moments should this track be used again.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: 55steve55 on June 27, 2017, 01:24:24 PM +0100
I was also surprised to finish ahead of you Clive, but assumed I had passed you in the pits. I'll look at the replay this evening and see what happened (or anyone else can if they wish).

i was behind after my pistop,

Ziu, who wouldn't be if nature calls :D



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: Ziu Bacubacu on June 27, 2017, 01:52:34 PM +0100
I was also surprised to finish ahead of you Clive, but assumed I had passed you in the pits. I'll look at the replay this evening and see what happened (or anyone else can if they wish).

i was behind after my pistop,

Ziu, who wouldn't be if nature calls :D



Now it s right  8). AHAHAHAH !!!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: Ziu Bacubacu on June 27, 2017, 02:20:53 PM +0100
I seen the replay, i lapped Clive once


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: EvilClive on June 27, 2017, 04:07:55 PM +0100
I would have been even more impressed if you had passed me in the pits Steve.

 I did not make a pit stop!  lol


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: Geoffers on June 27, 2017, 04:19:30 PM +0100
Fairly quiet race for me, apart from making a right Horlicks of the pitstop.

Did not have the pace to stay with Ziu who was 2s a lap faster. Following him in the early laps he was gaining all that time through the twisty section in the middle of the lap. Your setup clearly gives a lot better grip than mine Ziu. Equally I was around 1s a lap quicker than Erling so we quickly got spread out & that's probably how it would have finished if I hadn't made a mess of my stop.
First I overshot my pit & had to reverse & have another go but kept stalling the car until I realised the key I was pressing for the clutch was the pit limiter key!!!!!!!!! ::) Once I pressed the right key I got reversed & had another go at pitting, must have lost at least 25s faffing around, by then Erling had gone through & any chance of getting 2nd was gone.

Congrats to Ziu & Erling & Matt for winning Div2.  :clap: :clap: :clap:

Although I enjoy driving these cars they do tend to exaggerate the difference between drivers & I am seriously tempted to try the slowest Div 2 car in the next race to maybe have a more exciting race.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: 55steve55 on June 27, 2017, 08:17:40 PM +0100
Clive - The system has its hiccup at 2604 seconds and swops our positions around. Neither of us passed each other so.......

Tony - please put Clive up to P8 and me down to P9.



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: SpecialKS on June 27, 2017, 08:19:24 PM +0100
Results (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/BuddhIC_26062017)

8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: 55steve55 on June 27, 2017, 08:22:40 PM +0100
I think there are other anomalies afoot, namely that Ziu I believe lapped me twice yet I was required to complete lap 25 to finish instead of finishing on lap 24, but I'm not looking for any other changes so am happy to leave it there.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: 55steve55 on June 27, 2017, 08:33:12 PM +0100
Clive - the stats show your lap 20 was 4+ minutes, which it obviously wasn't (unless you went for a Ziu-style pitstop) which is where the swop took place.

This is similar to the system adding 40 seconds to my second lap at Silverstone in May and placing me third on paper, even though I was running in last place.





Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 27, 2017, 11:21:56 PM +0100
Results (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/BuddhIC_26062017)

8)
Thanks Kurt  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 27, 2017, 11:27:26 PM +0100
Tony - please put Clive up to P8 and me down to P9.
Done, thank you Steve.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Ford Asia Endurance Cup - Buddh - Jun 26
Post by: Jeep on June 30, 2017, 12:02:53 AM +0100
Really struggling to find any time to practice at all at the moment so going into races totally unprepared. I've stuck with the D1 car up to now as although I'm hopelessly outclassed in it but it's been a bit of fun working through the faster of the D2 cars after the pitstop. I'm going to move to the D2 cars for the next few races to see if I can find a sparing partner for the whole race. It's a shame but it seems these always result in 2 separate races and I think it would have been a much better series if just 1 of the divisions had been included instead of both.

Anyway...
Qualified in 5th, Finished in 5th. Tried to hang onto Tony for as long as I could but a few mistakes meant I was pretty much running on my own until the pitstop. Spent the 2nd half of the race picking my way through the D2 cars and finally coming home back where I started.

TTFN
John.