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Title: UKGTL Season 17 1971 RAC British Saloon Car Cham - Silverstone - May 22
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 04, 2016, 04:40:04 PM +0000
Championship standings HERE (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=535&theme=5)

Grid/server capacity: 22

GKN Transmissions Trophy
(for all classes)

Track: Silverstone GP 70's Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg109873#post_silverstone70)

Cars allowed:

CLASS A (0-1000cc)

Mini Cooper 970S Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_mini_cooper_970_s) Note: Not included '69 Mini.
Hillman/Sunbeam Imp Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_hillman_imp)

CLASS B (1000-1300cc)

Mini Cooper 1275S Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_mini_cooper_1275s_1968)
Ford Escort 1300GT Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_escort_1300gt)

CLASS C (1300-2000cc)

Ford Escort 1600RS Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_escort_rs1600)
Ford Escort 1600TC (FVA) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_escort_fva)

CLASS D (Over 2000cc)

Chevrolet Camaro Z28 (from the 1970's carpack) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_american_v8)
Ford Capri 2600RS (requires skinpack) Download this (http://www.mediafire.com/file/nv4lxqiu7nhdcnc/Ford_Capri_RS_2600.zip)
Ford Mustang Boss 302 Download this (http://gizmo71.www.idnet.com/srou/ukgtl/cars/SRou_GTL_69Boss302Mustang_1.1.0.0.exe)

Drivers are limited to a maximum of FOUR drives per Class, with a limited number of drives per car. For more information please click HERE (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1I7egPwfJnD3svMwKxFhsK633XLm8BLocdNuofsj2VKg/edit?usp=sharing)

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (20 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: simracing.org.uk Monday
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 1971 RAC British Saloon Car Cham - Silverstone - May 22
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 10, 2016, 03:27:21 PM +0000
IMPORTANT

Once qualification has started drivers may not leave to change class/make/car. They may leave to change skins.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 1971 RAC British Saloon Car Cham - Silverstone - May 22
Post by: Ziu Bacubacu on May 17, 2017, 04:19:59 PM +0100
Official Press Release :


Next Monday To avoid that Erling using his telepathic powers to know which car I will drive I decided to extract my car with a black bandage on my eyes, as it is used in the lotteries, one minute before to entering on the server


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 1971 RAC British Saloon Car Cham - Silverstone - May 22
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 17, 2017, 04:37:47 PM +0100
Official Press Release :


Next Monday To avoid that Erling using his telepathic powers to know which car I will drive I decided to extract my car with a black bandage on my eyes, as it is used in the lotteries, one minute before to entering on the server

Can you keep that bandage on whilst driving please?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 1971 RAC British Saloon Car Cham - Silverstone - May 22
Post by: Ziu Bacubacu on May 17, 2017, 04:50:26 PM +0100
Official Press Release :


Next Monday To avoid that Erling using his telepathic powers to know which car I will drive I decided to extract my car with a black bandage on my eyes, as it is used in the lotteries, one minute before to entering on the server

Can you keep that bandage on whilst driving please?

I could, but there is the risk that I can ram someone.
To make you happy the only solution is keep a rolling start step for 20 laps with me ahead


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 1971 RAC British Saloon Car Cham - Silverstone - May 22
Post by: Erling G-P on May 17, 2017, 10:47:30 PM +0100
Official Press Release :


Next Monday To avoid that Erling using his telepathic powers to know which car I will drive I decided to extract my car with a black bandage on my eyes, as it is used in the lotteries, one minute before to entering on the server

Can you keep that bandage on whilst driving please?

 :lol: :lol:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 1971 RAC British Saloon Car Cham - Silverstone - May 22
Post by: 55steve55 on May 21, 2017, 09:09:30 PM +0100
The 70's circuit's certainly very different to what we're used to today. I'd forgotten how much it's changed.

Currently lapping low 50's in 1275 with race fuel but hopefully can trim a little more off by tomorrow evening when sober.



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 1971 RAC British Saloon Car Cham - Silverstone - May 22
Post by: Erling G-P on May 22, 2017, 09:40:22 PM +0100
Very sorry to have missed tonight's race  :'(

My sound started dropping out less than an hour before the race.  Swapped cables around to no end, used contact cleaner and made driver changes.  Suspected that the troublesome AMD video drivers I had installed earlier today had a part to play (there's a Hi-def audio part in those drivers; probably for the HDMI ports on the video cards).  So I tried going back to an earlier version, even though I don't get my sound from the HDMI outputs, but still suspected the drivers had screwed something up.  Sound was cutting out at such regular intervals, that it was difficult to believe it was mechanically related.   Also tried system restore, but to no avail; just got worse and worse, until I ran out of time.

Had to dig out my venerable old Sound Blaster Audigy 2 SZ and go look for Win7 drivers. Luckily they're available and I now have sound again.

Bummed about missing the race. Wanted to drive the Camaro - it was the first car I tested, and proved to be such a nice drive on this track, that I never tried any of the others.

Cheers,
Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 1971 RAC British Saloon Car Cham - Silverstone - May 22
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 22, 2017, 09:51:34 PM +0100
Results and replay now posted


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 1971 RAC British Saloon Car Cham - Silverstone - May 22
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 22, 2017, 10:10:21 PM +0100
@ Kurt, I checked after the race and Imps were found on the server.

@ Erling, missed you  :'(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 1971 RAC British Saloon Car Cham - Silverstone - May 22
Post by: SpecialKS on May 23, 2017, 06:31:37 AM +0100
@ Kurt, I checked after the race and Imps were found on the server.

Strange - but I never used the Imp online in this series up to now. Will make a new install.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 1971 RAC British Saloon Car Cham - Silverstone - May 22
Post by: Ziu Bacubacu on May 23, 2017, 08:52:28 AM +0100
Little to say, i choose Boss 302 Sunday because my first choice was Capri 2600, in facts it was very easy to drive especially on input corners i could get 1:38 without any problem although i dont liked the braked to hard on front wheels and this was uncomfortable for me so i thought that if 1:17,2 was the pole with Ferrari 312-66 the difference with Boss302 could be around at 20 seconds, 1:37 so fast 1:36 so i challenged myself, if i get 1:36 with Boss302 i pick it.
And  has been so 1:38,8  38,2 little modification on setup 1:37,5 i back on setup page and i shift a little more the brake on the rear and....1:36,8 got !

About qualy and race it s gone all fine also if i got my best during the race, but with Boss302 not is strange.

I like old Silverstone but the start grid is wronged ! Not is possible that pole position is on internal line, it mean that the 4th on the grid have a great advantage on the start, also one year ago with F167 i got a good start but i was just 3th at Copse, it mean that the next time i will prefer be 4th on the grid here at Silverstone 70  ::)

We knew that Geoffers cannot join but i was surprised to not see Erling. Well the first thing that i thought has been.......it will be an other strategy of The Professor  ::) ? Unfortunately no ! It s strange and sad not to find Erling on the grid, sometime with Geoffers happened but since i m racing with you i dont remember that missed Erling. Sorry Erling.

Grats to Matt and Misnoimis  and Grats to the others class winners especially Bill !


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 1971 RAC British Saloon Car Cham - Silverstone - May 22
Post by: EvilClive on May 23, 2017, 10:07:33 AM +0100
This version of Silverstone is the one from the original GPL, so I had no excuse for not knowing the track. Knowing that this is a "power" track decided which car group to use, but which one of those beasts?
In the end, I reasoned that maybe knowing the track might allow me to extract a result from that 'orrible Capri balancing one against the other.

Grats to Ziu on a dominant pace and to Misnomis and Matt on the podium.

I found that a few tweaks to the setup made the car a little more driveable and I was able to get sub 1:40 on race fuel....well I say "race fuel", but as qually progressed I realised that I was actually carrying almost 40 laps worth??!!, so just before the start I dropped about 20 litres of fuel and hoped that the loss of that weight did not upset the handling.
The start, 4 abreast, was a real elbows out event, with those big bully Boss guys muscling down to Copse was exciting...and scary!
Made it through Copse with John doing his best to ease me out of the way in his Boss, but I was keeping pace with the leading cars.
Lap 1 was really intense with plenty of paint samples exchanged until I finally got clear of John and set off after Misnomis who was running 3rd, with Ziu already stretching away and Matt who was in 2nd. Matt later had a computer issue and we passed him grass cutting on Hangar straight, so we were up to 2nd and 3rd.
The race was huge fun as I used the slightly better handling of the Capri against the power of the Boss Mustang ahead. I don't think we were ever more than 1.5 secs apart, for almost the whole race. I got alongside a couple of times as the tyres on the Mustang appeared to be wearing down. (I was amazed that the tyres on the Capri just did not seem to be suffering? I think at the end of the race the HUD showed the green had dropped by only about 1mm!!). Just when I felt that there was going to be an opportunity to steal 2nd place in the last laps, I made a dumb mistake and clipped the inside wall at Stowe, throwing me wide and losing valuable seconds. It was worse than that, because the handling was not quite right after that and the car seemed to have a little too much oversteer into the fast corners. Matt caught and passed me and any dreams of 2nd place were dashed.
In fact after yet another spin Tony rushed into view and I was in danger of losing yet another place!! But in true gentlemanly fashion he elected to demonstrate his aerial car skills and performed a double spin with airborne two and a half rotations complete with smoke and fire on the exit of Abbey  ;). I then had a quiet cruise to the flag....still with 7 galls of fuel left???


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 1971 RAC British Saloon Car Cham - Silverstone - May 22
Post by: misnoimis on May 23, 2017, 11:36:27 AM +0100
I really enjoyed the race and my third place overall (although I was only third of the three Boss Stangs in the race).  I remember Silverstone from the mid-sixties, it has changed a lot from those times. At least they had a pit wall in the 1970 version.

I was tempted to take the Capri as I thought the handling a bit more civilised but in the end went for the power and sound of the Boss Stang (the only car in these classes I have never owned a variant of). I know Silverstone is a very fast track.
 
I practiced the start as I think the Stang is a bit difficult to get off the line. Starting the race four abreast was interesting, I made a great start and led into the first corner. With Ziu behind me and about 3 seconds a lap quicker I decided not to fight him too hard as I did not want to be hassled into a mistake early in the race. I needn’t have worried, he went past me like he had an extra 100 BHP at his disposal and gradually pulled away and out of my sight. I had a short battle with Matt until he must have managed a really good exit from a corner, got alongside me placing his car perfectly so I had to give way. I hung on for a while but he gradually pulled a gap.

The best part of the race for me was a battle with Clive in the Capri. Although he never got past we were side by side at times. He was always there keeping the pressure on. At times I pulled a slight gap but he always seemed to close it again, usually after we had lapped someone. Towards the end of the race we passed a recovering Matt who had been on the grass, I must have lifted my foot for a split second for as we past him Clive was almost in my boot.  Clive then overcooked it and the pressure was gone. I was just thinking I could get second here when I realised I had a charging Matt closing on me. I think he was about a second a lap quicker than me and after a bit of side by side racing he forged ahead just before the last lap.

However I enjoyed the race and was pleased I never left the tarmac. All my errors were small. I would like a bit more pace but don’t know where to find it.

Grats to Winner and Second and all Class Winners.  :clap:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 1971 RAC British Saloon Car Cham - Silverstone - May 22
Post by: Huggy on May 23, 2017, 03:39:26 PM +0100
Yes! I maintained and added to my supremely consistent record of last-place finishes, but that wasn't decided until the very last lap when the on-going duel between Steve and I in the Class B 1275 Minis, which had been great fun throughout with several passes back and forth, went his way with a well-timed pass in the spot he obviously sussed out as being where my high geared car would be vulnerable.  We managed to stay out of the way of all you guys with the big bangers I think, and some points were earned. Good fun!  :D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 1971 RAC British Saloon Car Cham - Silverstone - May 22
Post by: SpecialKS on May 23, 2017, 07:50:26 PM +0100
Results (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/Silverstone 22052017)

8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 1971 RAC British Saloon Car Cham - Silverstone - May 22
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 23, 2017, 10:33:13 PM +0100
Results (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/Silverstone 22052017)

8)
Cheers Kurt  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 1971 RAC British Saloon Car Cham - Silverstone - May 22
Post by: 55steve55 on May 24, 2017, 12:18:36 AM +0100
I decided to opt for the 1275S here as I felt my times were better, relatively speaking, than my remaining Class D car, the Z28. I also hoped others would opt for their Class D's so making it possible to pick up some more useful class points.

Had a good race-long tussle with Huggy's 1275S, the other Class B on the track. Our different garage setups allowed for some good close-up racing which was only really decided in the last couple of laps.

The sound of a 302 passing is quite scary in comparison with the Mini's classic whine. As Huggy said, I hope we managed to keep clear of the faster cars. The race seemed only minutes old before Ziu was lapping us for the first time.

Out of interest, there are two errors on the stats pages. I'm shown as reaching P3 during lap 2 when I was actually last behind Huggy. Secondly, my lap 2 time is shown as 2:33 when it was actually (I timed it on the replay) 1:53!

Well done to the podium finishers. This Championship, as someone mentioned last month, will get more and more exciting as the choice of car will be almost as important as how quick you are on the track.




 



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 1971 RAC British Saloon Car Cham - Silverstone - May 22
Post by: misnoimis on May 24, 2017, 11:05:56 AM +0100

Out of interest, there are two errors on the stats pages. I'm shown as reaching P3 during lap 2 when I was actually last behind Huggy. Secondly, my lap 2 time is shown as 2:33 when it was actually (I timed it on the replay) 1:53!


I like reading the race stats and really appreciate Kurt providing them. I do think there was a glitch and the stats got a bit upmixed, particularly on lap one in the Positions and Lap by Lap Graph.  Was this caused by the time cars joined the grid being recorded and the actual starting positions or something like that?  ???


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 1971 RAC British Saloon Car Cham - Silverstone - May 22
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 24, 2017, 11:28:58 AM +0100
Still kicking myself about the way this one went down. Had loads of practice setting up the Capri for this track. Qualified ok with a full tank and was feeling confident that I would be competitive with the other Capri's and hoped to catch the Mustang's once there tyres went off. Kept it steady for the first couple of laps as the Capri is easier to drive once there is some colour in the tyres. Managed to pass Bob and set off after Clive who had managed to break away. As the race went on my distance from Bob increased but also the distance to Clive was growing to which wasn't in my script. Many, many laps later I caught a recovering Clive and thought that with one lap to go I could have his place. After Abbey I planned to make my move but enthusiasm outweighed talent and I began a spin which sent me of track, hitting the wall and sending me on to my roof. By the time I had recovered Clive was long gone, Bob passed me and Ziu went by to lap me, so had no chance to make amends for my accident.
Still it was good fun.
Next one is a double header at Crystal Palace where the classes are defined so we should get some good racing


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 1971 RAC British Saloon Car Cham - Silverstone - May 22
Post by: Jeep on May 24, 2017, 11:31:50 PM +0100
A comparatively lonely race for me once we had got into it by a few laps. I had assumed most would choose the bigger class here and had hoped that there might be a few more Camaro's although I knew they were the slowest of the fast group. But there was just  Eiflblitz and myself. Had I known there would be a few more of the slower classes I would probably had opted for one of those myself.

Qualified back in 7th but got a blistering start due to the Camaro's ease off the line and actually managed to mix it for a few laps with the Capri's and I think the odd Stang but I knew once I lost the tow down Hangar Straight I was heading for a very lonely race which is how it worked out in the end. I did try to prolong my involvement and thought I saw a slim chance of a move on Tony into T1 early on but ambition far outweighed talent and although I did stuff it up the inside of his Capri my approach speed meant Tony Probably thought "WTF" followed by "Ah ok Bye"  as I sailed past onto the grass on the outside of the turn. From then on having lost the connection with the front group I slowly slipped behind a second or so each lap.

Came across Huggy and Steve having their own private battle and lapped them (Twice) shortly after the 1st pass I made a right Horlicks of one of the corners and ended up on the grass so had to do it all over again.  :oops: Came across Bill in the Escort with a few to go. Was disappointed Eiflblitz's race was ended so quickly. :( Once I had lost touch with the front pack he was next behind me and I had expected us to have quite a battle. Unfortunately the end of his race signified a very lonely 15 laps or so for me also.

TTFN
John.