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Track: Goodwood GP Circuit Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg81636#post_goodwood)

Cars allowed:

CLASS A (0-1000cc)

Mini Cooper 970S Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_mini_cooper_970_s) Note: Not included '69 Mini.
Hillman/Sunbeam Imp Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_hillman_imp)

CLASS B (1000-1300cc)

Mini Cooper 1275S Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_mini_cooper_1275s_1968)
Ford Escort 1300GT Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_escort_1300gt)

CLASS C (1300-2000cc)

Ford Escort 1600RS Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_escort_rs1600)
Ford Escort 1600TC (FVA) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_escort_fva)

CLASS D (Over 2000cc)

Chevrolet Camaro Z28 (from the 1970's carpack) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_american_v8)
Ford Capri 2600RS (requires skinpack) Download this (http://www.mediafire.com/file/nv4lxqiu7nhdcnc/Ford_Capri_RS_2600.zip)
Ford Mustang Boss 302 Download this (http://gizmo71.www.idnet.com/srou/ukgtl/cars/SRou_GTL_69Boss302Mustang_1.1.0.0.exe)


Drivers are limited to a maximum of FOUR drives per Class, with a limited number of drives per car. For more information please click HERE (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1I7egPwfJnD3svMwKxFhsK633XLm8BLocdNuofsj2VKg/edit?usp=sharing)

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (38 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: simracing.org.uk Monday
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None

IMPORTANT

Once qualification has started drivers may not leave to change class/make/car. They may leave to change skins.

IMPORTANT

The Hillman/Sunbeam Imp's will require a pit stop during this race for fuel.

All the other car makes can complete the distance without requiring a pit stop.

I had some free time . so thought I would do a recce at Croft, download the track try and get a feel for which cars I have left and which might be good for this new track.

A little concerned that I tried 2 different cars, and after approx 10 mins of various spectacular slides and armco testing GTL crashed on both occassions?  This was off line and everything loaded OK and appeared to be functioning OK too.
Has anyone else tried out this car/track combo yet?

I ran it last Saturday Clive and it was 100% stable for me. This was also offline.

Could others please try and report back?

Whilst it was running it was solid and stable, but it just went black with no warning on both occasions. Maybe my system is groaning under the pressure again?

I remember doing a couple of races at Croft back in the dim & distant past where the track crashed after 10 - 12 laps. However the last time we used it at NG, about 12 months ago, it ran fine.

I did a few offline laps this AM in the 970 against 13 TC cars and it crashed on lap 4.  I cut back the the players to 10 and it ran fine for a half race (18L)  I have had this happen before on different tracks on my old computer but then no problem with the monday online races.  Please everyone lap me as much as you can so I don't have to drive that "Shreeking" 970 for all 35 laps.

Bob M.

Hi just tried the Escort and GTL crashed to the desktop lap 5.

Tony - you asked that question over at http://evolution-modding.usersboard.net/ (http://evolution-modding.usersboard.net/) last year.

GTR4U had a CTD fix years ago which is no longer available. Have to look on my old PC whether I downloaded it at time.

edit: found it here: http://gtr4u.de/filebase/index.php/Entry/23-Croft-CTD-Fix/ (http://gtr4u.de/filebase/index.php/Entry/23-Croft-CTD-Fix/). Looks like a fix for V1 - so V1.01 to be downloaded here should be the right one (???)

Guy's, Kurt sent me the fix files. Can you test them for me? Download the file and extract the contents into your Croft folder allowing them to overwrite originals.

Please report if this fixes things or not please.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/rte6q3j836a0isr/CROFT_v1_fix.zip

If it does not work then I will choose an alternative track, which is likely to be Cadwell Park.

Thanks

Tony

Just done some testing and found a problem with the fix files.  With them, I can't get pitstops to work.  Mechanic doesn't show, and stopping in the spot does nothing.  Have tried both with and without pit in request (which I have never used before).  Without the fix files, it works.  Have not had any crashes, with 16-17 consecutive laps being the longest distance driven so far.

Also noticed, that without the fix files, replays are suffixed with 'V.1.01'. With the fix files, they're not - perhaps indicating the fix files being older ?

Shame if we can't use it, as it's a really nice track.

Cheers,
Erling

Thanks Erling. We thought that the fix might be for the older version of this track.

Any chance you could try the fix with this older track version (1.0)? http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=871

If any one else wants to try it please do. Probably best to delete Croft from your locations folder before installing this older version. Don't forget to apply the "fix" too.

I'll try to try it tonight  ;D

Hi fix with new Croft did 15 laps no problem but pit in not working.

    fix with old Croft did 15 laps no problem but pit in not working.

    NO fix old Croft did 15 laps no problem and pit in and stop and go working.

win7/gtx770/on board sound.

Was it this event Geoffers? http://www.nogripracing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=365208 . Thirty laps is pretty close to what we want to do. I could not find a results page so do not know if it managed to last for the full thirty laps or not?
I notice it was the 1.0 version used.

Great info, thanks Rog

Yes that's the one Tony. Actually having said it ran fine, I don't think I took part as I think I went away on holiday that day! Let me check with Cap about it, will get back to you.

Ran another session this afternoon on the Croft 1:01 ( no updates).....just picked a car and noted the time that GTL loaded, then simply tried to keep clocking up the laps, rather than setting the timing screen alight.

I thought my woes had vanished when I reached 12 laps without any problems, so changed to one of the cars I used last time, and started the same process. Reached approx 8 laps and GTL crashed again. That was approx 30 mins after the track loaded the first time.
Tried another car and did a further 10 laps without probs.

I am running XP on a 2.3ghz machine with 2Gb ram...whatever that means  ::)

Which car was it Clive ? - would be interesting to find out if others also have problems with that particular car.

Cheers,
Erling

Cliveeeeeeeeeee the next time when you have write the track version put 1.01, when i read 1:01 I had a heart attack......I believed it was your fastest lap !!!!!! :taz:

Just did a brief test of the old version and can confirm Roger's findings regarding pitstops - works without fix files, but not with them; just like the newer version.


Not even the Class A cars are that slow  ;D

Cheers,
Erling

 :lol:

Hi   not so good, just got a GTLegends has stopped working using old version Croft no fix, car used Ford Mustang Boss 302.

Ok...

The first 12 laps were with the Escort FVA. Next was the Escort 1300, then the Mustang and finally the Imp.

The FVA laps were fairly steady as I just wanted to keep it going to test the problems, at around 1:38/39 (Definitely not 1:01 Ziu!!).
Escort 1300 was a little slower and the sudden CTD ended that prematurely. Rebooted and tried the Mustang which was a real handful, and I never really got that car settled, so I changed.
The Imp was huge fun, but lacked power on the straights, although it was not as slow as I expected over a whole lap.

I was trying to remember which cars I was driving in the first session, and I believe it was the 2 x 1600 Escorts.

Guy's lets try a GTR2 Croft version. Download this http://www.mediafire.com/file/7505hz2svgjd5dc/90sCroft.zip and install into your locations folder.

Then download this into your GameData/Locations/Shared folder. http://www.mediafire.com/file/szxcnf46fzq31vv/shared.zip

I've done all the necessary modding to the track files and it works for me.

Please give it a go. The layout is almost, almost the same.
 

Just tested the GTL versions:

Croft V1.01 without fix: 13 lap race, 12cars, no CTD, pit stop working
Croft V1.0 without fix: 15 lap race, 12 cars, CTD in lap 2.
 ???
I'm a bit confused. So I stop testing the GTL version and try the GTR2 version offered.

Just ran a offline race with 13AI  in the Mini in the GTL version. Set up for 35L  I finished 5L down to the Capri Turbo's so only ran 30.  After the finish line was going around the chicanes  and  thegame crashed, was going to try to run 35 after the others pitted, but no go.  Hope we can get something  to work, will try the GTR2 track a little later.  Gotta get my ears to stop ringing first!!

Bob M

Just checked, & I did do that race & it ran full distance.

GTR2 version should be OK, have raced on it on several occasions without problems.

HELP Please  Hi Tony done this,      Guy's lets try a GTR2 Croft version. Download this http://www.mediafire.com/file/7505hz2svgjd5dc/90sCroft.zip and install into your locations folder.

Then download this into your GameData/Locations/Shared folder. http://www.mediafire.com/file/szxcnf46fzq31vv/shared.zip

and as soon as track starts to load GTL goes back to desktop GTLegends has stopped working, what have i done wrong?



the shared folder i downloaded is identical to the one i already have?

Just done some testing with the GTR2 version and all is not well  :(

Initially tried the Escort 1300.  Ran fine, but when I wanted to exit the practice session, it saved my hotlap and then crashed to desktop.

Back in and loaded the hotlap replay.  Played fine, but when I exited, it crashed.

Back in and load the full replay.  Crashed at the end of loading.

Back in and load hotlap replay again.  Crashed at the end of loading.

Back in and load full replay again.  This time it loaded and played, but crashed at exit.  Same for hotlap replay, when I tried that one again.

Next tested the orange/white Hillman Imp.  Loaded and ran fine, but like Escort crashed at exit.

Tried a Sunbeam; the first blue one. Crashed at the end of loading the session - twice.

Tried the other blue Sunbeam.  Loaded and ran fine, but crashed at exit.

Went back to the first blue Sunbeam. This time it loaded and ran fine, but crashed at exit.

Tried a few of the replays, which loaded and played, but crashed at exit.

Thus seems to be a bit hit or miss, with some certain misses.

Like Roger, I also had a Shared folder already. Contained one more file; a UKGTL.txt explaining its purpose.  Had saved my original folder before letting the new download from Tony overwrite my existing files.  Tried going back to my original ones.  The suspect Sunbeam loaded and ran without problems, but again it crashed when I exited.

Cheers,
Erling

I tried the GTR track also, runs good and like it better than GTL, has dark braking points and just seems like better traction, but lap times are the same, probably just a mental thing.  Have excactly the same problems as Erling.  Try to move about from track to anywere else and it crash's.  Not the mod cars either I tried the stock Mustang and the GTC Merc.
Never seen a track act so screwy as these two do.   I used the new "shared" file and the old one I had installed before, not that.  Weird Weird Weird!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bob M.

Strange - first try of the GTR2 version game crashed when loading the track; second try could start a race but game crashed when I left GTL  ???

I will put the GTR2 version of Croft on to the server tonight and aim to test it on Friday.

Hopefully it will last for the race length and record the results. Even if it doesn't I can do the results manually (that's as long as the replay gets created and works?)

For the time being assume that we will use the GTR2 Croft 90's version of this circuit.

Obviously I will post here if something happens to change this.

EDIT: I had the name of the track wrong..............now corrected.

The shared folder should be the same. I included that download for drivers who have not had to install a GTR2 track before. Are you sure the shared files went into the right folder e.g. GameData/Locations/Shared ?

Croft 09 and Croft 07 both CTD immediately when trying to join track for me
Corection, once I recopied the shared forder contents (mine was not complete for some reason)
Track sloads ok. I will do some testing later

Did you use the track in my download? Standard tracks taken directly from Nogrip or elsewhere will not work. The download file has had the necessary modifications done to it to work with GTL.

Not sure, I tried so many. I will make sure it's the download
it's working now anyway
EDIT:
Installed 90sCroft from link provided.ran ok, pits worked ok, then hung the PC when I tried to leave the session.
Tried again, and this time it CTD when going to track. Tried again, and worked ok, but CTD when leaving session.
CTD when going to track is nothing new though, and happens occasionally with any track.
One other thing, all my add on cars are black, the standard cars have skins, This is on both my systems
I have set to run DX7 as suggested, but no effect. any ideas?

Tony, would it be an idea to test if the transitions from test to qual and race works as it should ?

Cheers,
Erling

Well, I'm kinda glad I won't be making this one.

Did give it a try though and can mirror the findings of others off line.

Did try it on line tonight and GTL crashed during the track load (68 Mini selected). Tried the 67 Mini and got in but "Connection lost" half way through the 1st lap. Can't get back in at all now. (Asks for password and then returns to the racelist screen (No "bad password" or anything).

My altbierbude install can connect to their servers ok so no connection issue from my end.

TTFN
John.

GTL server had crashed, I restarted it

IMPORTANT

Ok, so although the track will run on the server it has proven to be very unstable with no guarantee that it would be run ok on race night.

Therefore, and with some reluctance, I have to accept defeat. We will run an alternative track.

I had proposed Cadwell Park but as Croft was quite a quick track I think a better alternative will be Goodwood.

I will rewrite the race announcement tomorrow morning.

Always love Goodwood  8)

Sorry to have sparked this issue with Croft and to miss racing on a what was a new circuit for me.  Maybe I should stick to my normal preparations and avoid testing tracks before the event?? ::)  Ironically, with all of the CDT's etc I did not really learn anything about the limits of Croft, or my ability.

But I guess is better to find these things out before race night and avoid total confusion.

Goodwood is stable and proven so that should not present any problems. plus it always seems to create some good races both in GTL and GPL........must be something magic about that circuit?

The magic is push the gas  8)

IMPORTANT

Server and race announcement now revised for Goodwood.

Hillman/Sunbeam Imps will still require a fuel stop.

Real shame; really came to love Croft during the testing, but probably the wisest decision.

Puzzled by the fuel problems with the Imp - is this an unusually long race Tony ? (38 laps of Goodwood does sound a bit extreme).

Cheers,
Erling

One quick test lap in a capri gets 1:23 for me which is 29 laps or so, say a fast person in a BOSS (if anyone has any drives left)
would be 31 laps at best. One quick lap in an Imp gets 1:37 for me, so in 30 laps the Imp would be lapped 5 times....

This Cinderby fellow, who holds the lap records for the Mini 1275, is he a registered alien ?

Just done some preliminary laps, and his laptimes seems like science fiction..  :eek:

Cheers,
Erling

Mark was a quick driver but I suspect an anomaly in the results. If you look at the race announcement there was a Mini 1310S available and I suspect he drove the nuts off it. It was his first race in this series so he was entitled to take the 1310.
On inspection the admin system doesn't have a specific entry for a Mini 1310 so that is why it is shown in the results as a 1275.

This is a long race (as was Croft). Unfortunately the Imp's have a very small fuel tank. Hence the need to pit for fuel.

I hope for you that when you got 1:23 your Capri was with one perforated tyre

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Which makes it 32 laps in 40 mins then  :whistling:

AHAHAHAHAH !!!!!!  :lol:


Sorry but I'm dying to laughter so much

I can tell you that 30 laps can be done in 45mins, just not saying in which car  :shifty: :whistling:

Bit confused by the number of laps you guys keep talking about, the race announcement says 38 laps!

Offline I can only do 30 laps (I could change the no of laps in the track file but I would forget to change it back afterwards)
It is a 38 lap race

I coudl take 45 mins to do 30 laps in an Imp, if it didn't have a Ziu booster fitted.

I think this is first Season we've had the 1275 Mini to drive but of course I could be wrong! We did use the 1310 Mini in a Series and I think I won it by finishing every race. Kurt was ahead of me in last race and he over cooked it leaving me to win Series but I could have been away with the Piskies.  ;)

50% correct Bill. This is the first season with the 1275 Mini mod. But the series you won was this'n https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=373&theme=5 which featured the awesome KAD works Mini which is something else again. This was back in the era that historians will refer to as being "Pre-Erling".

100% We did use the 1310 Mini in a Series and I think I won it by finishing every race. Kurt was ahead of me in last race and he over cooked it leaving me to win Series but I could have been away with the Piskies.  Wink  8) :rockon:

 :lol: - You're giving me far more credit than I could possibly deserve Tony - just see what a a certain alien is doing to all series currently..  ;)

Cheers,
Erling

Hi just a quick nod noticed theirs a number 89 Capri is this to be used or not?

The #89 Capri is a RS3100 so is not permitted in this series. If you tried to use it online you would be booted by the system with a "car not found" message.

 Thanks for quick reply Tony.

We only missed the Capri 3100, it is already raining on the wet for me ......... somebody can lend me a umbrella ?  (http://www.vocinelweb.it/faccine/varie/pag5/15.gif)

Hi another quick nod please driving Capri or Boss after a few laps screen goes black for a few seconds sound continues then screen back and if your lucky car still on track, any ideas?

No I'm afraid not. Goodwood is a very stable track and I do not recall having had any issue's with it the past. It sounds like a graphics issue so try reducing the shadows setting in game options/video and see if that helps.

Hi Tony reduced shadows, reinstalled Goodwood, and Capri skins, did 15 laps with no problem Thank You.

Looks like I won't make this one.  My wife cracked a tooth Saturday eating a fruit salad (thought they were supposed to be good for you)  and the only appointment time at the dentist was right at the starting time of the race today.  Bummer, but her pain is also my pain, transfered in the form of wrath.  LOL  Always liked Goodwood, have fun guys !!!!

Bob M.

I'm guessing she found a hidden stone? Fruit salad isn't the usual dental hazard. Hope she gets it sorted and sorry you miss out on the race Bob.

Hope your wife gets it sorted Bob.

Hi Tony no joy GTL still playing up, in replay all is fine then GTL goes into slow motion for about 3 seconds (thats when screen goes black) then ok again
have changed graphic card and still the same problem.

I could only guess that it might be Internet briefly dropping out? Let's hope it behaves tonight. Does the black screen always happen on the same lap # after leaving pits?

AV poking its nose in?

Hi Tony    no this was offline , will reinstall GPL and re download cars and track. Tried AC/RRRE/AC and they all seemed fine so must be my GTL install.

Done clean install of GTL and still does it, in replay it looks like your car has run into a patch of glue for 3 seconds. Lost as to what to do now, will try GTL in windowed mode and see if it shows a message when screen goes black.

sorry to mini lap 9 could not avoid crash, you appeared out of thin air.

Grats to Clive on win

Grats to Podium

GPL worked fine in windowed mode, but not in non windowed mode?

Replay and results now posted.

That's really weird, I saw you go off behind me, but there was no impact, thanks anyway!  After Bill retired, didn't have much else happen until tyres went squiffy, so decided to retire myself and get out of the way of the fast guys who kept lapping me ????

Quite a roller coaster ride this race turned out to be.  Lots of tactical considerations before the race, most of which went out the window upon joining the server.  Class A was out, as I only have Imp drives left, and didn't fancy having to do a pit stop, when lots of potential competitors didn't.  Having made some less than stellar tactical choices in previous races, I wanted to play it safe this time.  Main concern was to avoid the two aliens. Despite all their tentacles, they can after all only race in one class at a time, so I prepared cars for all three remaining classes - at least one ought to be 'alien-free'  :)

Joined server in Escort RS1600, to some interesting findings.  Both aliens in same class.  Ziu notably slower in the FVA, unless he was heavily sandbagging (which I strongly suspected!).  Geoffer's laptimes were on par with my own, so looked like I could actually battle them with a chance of success.  Quickly dismissed Class B, as I would be the only one running it, and that's just too easy to get points (didn't know at the time that Tony would run in this class).  On the other hand, I was sorely tempted to grab a Boss and try to make things more difficult for Clive. However, I desperately need a win in Class D, if I'm to have any hope of competing for 2nd in the Championship, and while my offline pb of 1:19.5 was a little quicker than his times in praccy, he has shown to be quick in Detroit lumps earlier. Also up against a gaggle of potentially fast drivers in Capris, whose tyres probably lasted better.  As I sat there yanking my hair over what to do, time decided for me when it ran out, and I was stuck with the Escort and the aliens!

Qual could have been better. On my way to a 1:21 time on my final lap, potentially grabbing 2nd on grid, but tossed it away by clipping the wall in the chicane and spinning, ending up 4th instead.  Start went ok; only just managed to swerve around Matt when he bogged down, and set off after Geoffers. After a lap, Matt was back, but after a few more laps went off at St. Mary's, dropping back a little.  Hounded Geoffers as much as I could, and after a few laps, he put an inner wheel on the grass at T1, entering a slow spin and gifting me 2nd.  Clive was long gone in his Mustang, while behind, Matt edged closer and closer over the next many laps. Eventually caught and passed me.  Shocked to find Geoffers just 2 secs behind him. After the earlier laps, where I could more than match his pace, I didn't expect him to make a comeback; not that fast at least.  Dunno where he suddenly found all that speed. 

A moment's distraction and I went wide at T1, gifting 3rd to Geoffers. Almost 6 secs behind when I rejoined, and despite my best efforts, he continued to extend the gap.  Had been presumptuous to think I could compete with him, but still sobering to see the laws of the Universe kick into gear again :-\   Lost more time from catching traffic in unfortunate places, and then really made things difficult for myself, by clipping the wall in the chicane and spinning.  Stellar move from Tony in avoiding me, when he came flying through just behind me!  :o

Gap now 17 secs and still growing. When the final lap started, it was over 20 secs and I was completely resigned to 4th place. Thus my jaw dropped when I reached St. Mary's and zipped past a recovering Geoffers.  Couldn't believe he had tossed away a surefire class win on the final lap. Took it very carefully on the remainder of the lap, so as to not make a similar mistake, and totally unexpected grabbed the class win after all.

Grats to Clive & Matt, and commiserations to Geoffers, who was the true winner of Class C. Grats also to Huggy & Tony for the wins in Class A & B, although it was a bit too easy for you guys  ;)

Cheers,
Erling

The result of the race was heavily determined by the impossibility of running the race at Croft. I really like Goodwood but with Escort FVA it's as if I had a bin in my hands, while at Croft I could fight for the podium with FVA. Indeed I can say that the drivers who used the Escort RS 1600 were also damaged, in fact Croft was the perfect track for class C. It is not anyone's fault but the reality says that the final result of the championship will be strongly decided by this race .

My race was anonymous, 2 spins and two bumps with the guard rail = left front suspension destroyed and if anyone thinks that for this reason I'm a donkey I do not care about a dry fig, running the race with a bin at all takes off the concentration , this stuff does fall down the balls on the ground !!!!

Anyway i can be satisfied just from my qualy lap, it was like i was kikcking this bin for 1:23.9.

Grats Clive, Grats Matt (thanks Matt, you stole some points to Erling yesterday, go head so please ) and Grats Erling anyway if Geoffers finished the race ahead to Erling was better.....The problem is that Erling is an alien he could win also with a wheelbarrow, from where are you come ? From Mars ? Or from some sidereal galaxy ? I bet that your skin is green and you have three eyes four arms and 3 legs  that ! All this because you lapped me yesterday.


ATTENTION ATTENTION !!!!! Erling is lapping Ziu  (http://www.vocinelweb.it/faccine/alieni/42.gif)

Having done some practice for last week’s race but was unable to take part because an old friend called in unexpectedly. By the time he left I was unable to get my PC fired up in time to race.

This week I had not practiced because I had planned to go out on Bank Holiday Monday. Plans got changed and I ended up painting the exterior of the house minus windows and door as I’m having new double glazing fitted on Wednesday.

After that I desperately needed some fun. What better than GTL.

I was delighted that the venue was changed to Goodwood. When I started Sim- Racing it was GTR but I discovered GTL after a while and liked it much more. I used to do my own mini Goodwood Revival events so got to know the track really well. I planned to go again to the Revival Meeting this year but left it too late to get entry tickets.

I raced the Capri with the default settings but 40 laps worth of fuel. I wasn’t fast but apart from the start when I didn’t hear the bleep and made an awful start I didn’t put a wheel wrong.  I was chasing Roger and my race was just getting interesting when we approached the incredible disappearing and reappearing Huggy.  I think he materialised on a corner right in front of Roger who span off. I was lucky and passed him on a straight. After that it was a very boring race for me so I went into cruise mode. I just had not got the speed to keep up with the drivers in front of me. Near the end of the race I saw Ziu in front of me, driving a car with an engine about half the size of mine. I thought this may be the only chance I will ever get to lap him so chased him down and passed him just before the end of the race. Approaching the final lap I saw a black car closing on me and realised it was Clive in the Stang. I knew the Stang would be quickest at Goodwood with its long straights but was surprised at the possibility of being lapped. I was working out… say 3+ seconds a lap faster x 38 = say 1m 20s…lapping at 1m20s, O K I’d better let him through on the straight. I had to stay wide at T1 and Clive passed so I just needed to keep it tidy and follow him home.  For some reason Clive decided to try the grass and make dust a few corners later so I nipped past again and did my final lap.

Grats to Clive and podiums and class winners.  :clap:

I guessed ( wrongly) that at least a couple of the alien elite would take the option of the heavy metal cars for this race at Goodwood, and I did toy with idea of taking the RS1600 or even the 1300GT Escort.
But, I have always liked Goodwood especially in cars with an excess of power and I seriously fancied my chances for a podium at least.

I was therefore quite surprised that neither Erling or Geoffers were using their Mustang drives ( I had checked and knew that Ziu had used all of his  ;) ) but Matt was in a Capri along with a couple of other drivers who could not be ignored. I did Qually on full race fuel because I wanted to know how my times compared to other cars and did I have the pace to compete?
My first run gave me a  high 1:20 lap and although I knew it was messy I waited to see what the other guys were doing. Geoffers and Erling might have installed turbos on their Escorts, although their qually times were comparable with my offline laps in the RS1600. Also Matt looked quick in that Capri and I was sure that his car ( and foot ) would be kinder on the tyres. Times got closer to my pole slot so I went again and got a low 1:20 lap, again far from perfect In fact I think I had to find a way past another car on a hot lap.
A third run got me into the 1:19's but there was certainly more time to be had and I went for a banzai lap which was promising a mid 1:18 until I reached Woodcote and made a complete Horlicks of the downshifts for that corner.

 I was VERY aware that tyre wear would be my biggest challenge, I seem to have a poorly educated right foot??! but we have been attending evening classes and things are improving in that department.
I had not done a long run in the Stang, only a couple of 10 minute sessions to compare Escort and Mustang laptimes, so I was basing my rubber usage on the evidence of a 5 lap run.
It was pretty certain that I had at least a 1sec a lap advantage over the other cars at 100% race pace, but punishing the tyres like that would make me a sitting duck in the final laps. So a hastily concocted plan was formed to blitz the first 10 laps and see how much of a gap I could generate and then manage the safety margin.
At the end of lap 1 I was gratified to see a 2.4 sec gap back to Geoffers, closely followed by Erling who were both keeping Matt and his potential threat in the Capri bottled up. For thr next few laps I just pushed hard and grew the margin until I hit 10secs, then I tried to find a rhythm that would manage that comfortably and save my tyres for later. Even though I consciously eased up and braked earlier and more gently, easing the gas on out of the corners, I was still easing away....until Matt suddenly popped up in 2nd spot!!!! Suddenly he was taking chunks out of my nice comfy cushion!!!
By now we were around lap 20 and a quick check of the HUD showed that the tyres were OK and still showing at around 60%, but as expected the lefts were a little more worn than the rights.
I upped my pace, but tried not to panic, keeping things as smooth and gentle as I could. Destroying what rubber I had left would certainly drag me back to Matt Geoffers and Erling and a battle with them over the final laps could prove difficult.
Lapping cars was proving the biggest problem ( no fault of those guys who moved over and gave me room) but I was closing on them at such a pace that it would have been easy to make a BIG mistake, so I picked my places to pass very carefully. Each time I lost around 1-2 secs of my lead but that was OK as generally I was still pulling away very slowly.
With about 8 laps to go I had used up all of the green section on all tyres, so I guess that I had about 40% of the rubber left. I could certainly tell that I no longer had optimum grip, but things were still predictable under braking and acceleration............so I wondered if I could put in a quick lap just for fun?
Managed a 1:20 on worn tyres with about 0.5 lost through minor mistakes which was a good feeling. ;D

" laps to go and the gap was up to around 20 secs with a couple of cars ahead to lap before the end of the race....passed them easily and relaxed  too much and forgot to downshift at St Mary's??!! My only "off" of the race!! My lead was cut to around 7 secs by the time I recovered, but no damage done so I was able to cruise to the flag and take with win.
I do enjoy the muscle cars and was pleased to take max points with this drive. Still need to work on my setups and right foot though.

Grats to Matt and Erling and Geoffers and to all finishers. And thanks to Tony for this series,,,,,,so many permutations for each race  ;)

Some severe offs including two or three two-wheeled excursions in Woodcote  ::) which led to a damaged suspension and a very nervous handling during the last 10 laps.
Sorry Tony for the strange behaviour and thanks for letting me pass just before the finish line.

Anyway - good fun at Goodwood - as always.

I thought I was being lapped  :taz:

Grats to Clive & Matt, and commiserations to Geoffers, who was the true winner of Class C. Grats also to Huggy & Tony for the wins in Class A & B, although it was a bit too easy for you guys  Wink

Cheers,
Erling

Agreed! :)  But I'll take it...

Love glorious Goodwood but this race was bit of a dull affair for me. Being the only car in class meant I had the best points possible but no-one to race against. Still great fun driving the 1300GT which is a lovely car IMO. Shame about RV dipping out. Hope you can join us in future BSCC events.
Next one is the last at Silverstone  >:(

 :sweatdrop: :lol: :ninja:

If I lapped you, you screwed up...  ;D  - No alien involvement whatsoever  ;)

Cheers,
Erling

Results (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/Goodwood_28082017)

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BTW: thanks Tony and all involved for all the work you had concerning preparation of this event  :rockon:

Thanks for the results Kurt and have a good holiday

Thanks Tony - I will enjoy it !  ;) ;D :D :)