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Track: Silverstone GP 70's Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg109873#post_silverstone70)

Cars allowed:

CLASS A (0-1000cc)

Mini Cooper 970S Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_mini_cooper_970_s) Note: Not included '69 Mini.
Hillman/Sunbeam Imp Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_hillman_imp)

CLASS B (1000-1300cc)

Mini Cooper 1275S Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_mini_cooper_1275s_1968)
Ford Escort 1300GT Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_escort_1300gt)

CLASS C (1300-2000cc)

Ford Escort 1600RS Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_escort_rs1600)
Ford Escort 1600TC (FVA) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_escort_fva)

CLASS D (Over 2000cc)

Chevrolet Camaro Z28 (from the 1970's carpack) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_american_v8)
Ford Capri 2600RS (requires skinpack) Download this (http://www.mediafire.com/file/nv4lxqiu7nhdcnc/Ford_Capri_RS_2600.zip)
Ford Mustang Boss 302 Download this (http://gizmo71.www.idnet.com/srou/ukgtl/cars/SRou_GTL_69Boss302Mustang_1.1.0.0.exe)

Drivers are limited to a maximum of FOUR drives per Class, with a limited number of drives per car. For more information please click HERE (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1I7egPwfJnD3svMwKxFhsK633XLm8BLocdNuofsj2VKg/edit?usp=sharing)

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (25 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: simracing.org.uk Monday
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None

IMPORTANT

Once qualification has started drivers may not leave to change class/make/car. They may leave to change skins.

Practice server now up and running. But I've not checked it, so if there's a car set missing please shout out.

Shall probably miss this one.
 We have our Annual Disaster recovery test at work over Mon, Tue & Wed so I'll probably be working well into the evening. :(

TTFN
John.

No sign of the server in my list as at 4.40pm - hope we're on for tonight....

Server was confused about the lobby, restarted now

And I have just reset it with race password.

GTL working fine, just reset pc and GTL is asking for SIM gtc.gdb were is this?

have found it copied from my steam GTL.

Bummer.....Hit the turn wrong on  the last left  hander and over corrected and wiggled into the wall.  Nice fire though, had the ceiling fan on high in the PC room so blew the flames away from me, I'm OK!!!  Sorry to Roger for the bump earley on, guess it just wasn't my day to drive the Boss.  Was a tose up with the Z28 and the Boss won, or maybe lost.....See you all next week in the beastley Capri's

Bob M.

Results and replay now posted.

This series has become a bit of a tactical nightmare.  In addition to the usual suspects, you find yourself battling drivers you would normally be ahead, because they've been more fortunate - or clever - with their tactical choices.  Have made some bad ones myself, and yesterday turned out to be another one.

Initially joined in the Boss, but desperately need a win in my final Class D drive, so when Geoffers joined in the same car and quickly eclipsed my offline pb, which I couldn't even match yesterday, I looked at the driver / car list for alternatives.  Both Clive & Matt were in RS 1600s, with Clive posting a 1:41.4.  I had done 1:41.1 offline, so looked like we could have a nice, close race. Off I went to get myself a RS 1600, but when I rejoined, both gents promptly left and changed their cars - apparently neither one wanted to race with me  :-\

Qual set in before I could switch car again, and I ended up wasting a RS 1600 for something I could have accomplished with a FVA instead.

Qualified ahead of Roger in a Boss, but he had no problem outdragging me at the start, dropping me to 6th.  Start of L2, I saw his car cartwheeling in T1, and next passed a waiting Bob. Thus I was in an unlikely and surely temporary 4th.  Tried to make the most of it, maximizing my corner speeds - my one advantage, bar the brakes, but have to be careful with those, as the Escort tends to bite, if I overdo my late braking antics.  Inevitably the gap dropped, and when a Boss appeared in my mirror, it was clear it had another one in tow.  Started to hit traffic when the gap was down to 3 secs, which didn't help. Apologies if my passes were on the clumsy side, but I desperatedly needed to get past with as little delay as possible.

Saved by the bell though, when Bob retired. Gap to Roger was holding at 7 secs, and later increasing.  2nd half of the race very lonely then, with the only company coming from the slower cars I lapped.  Totally surprised to finish on the podium, after Geoffers untimely exit.  Grats to Clive & Tony for the win & 2nd - and to Clive for moving 2nd in the Class D Championship beyond my grasp... ;)  Commiserations to Geoffers & Bob.

Cheers,
Erling

Don't remember your car change affecting what I did  ???
I wanted to run an Imp, could have stuck with the RS1600, but looked to be on my own
and I only had a Camaro drive so would be left standing by the BOSS302s.
Saw that Bill and Kurt were in Imps, and doing quick times, so left to join them for
some fun.

Just independent change then. Would have liked to run an Imp too, but didn't prepare anything for it, as it once again wouldn't complete the race without refuelling. With drivers still having Mini drives left in the class, I didn't dare go with the Imp.  As it turned out, all Class A drivers opted for the Imp; having a crystal bowl would be nice at times...  ::)

Cheers,
Erling

I know that you won't believe me Erling, but there were no tactics involved last night. I was trying the Escorts in practice simply to compare the cars I still had available. I already knew that the Boss would be the fastest option, but I needed a relative comparison for the Escorts.

I was almost stuck with the FVA, which I was trundling around in the last minutes of free practice, and it was only by chance that I glanced at the clock with about one minute left until qually started. A frantic jump back to the transporter and grabbed the last drive in the Boss.......sorry Erling it could have been fun.

TBH I get a little scared at the start of the season when I read on the forum that many of you have tested/worked out the cars and circuits for all of the races!!

My system involves looking at the track on race day, taking a look at what cars I have left and choosing what might be the most promising. Inevitably this means that as we get to the tail end of a season I have a collection of cars that either I just don't like. or that are totally unsuitable for the tracks that are remaining. As you will see for the rest of this season!!

During qually I was struggling to actually adjust from the handling of the Escort to that of the Mustang, with multiple "track cut" warnings. It was only in the last few minutes that I hooked up a decent lap to get me onto the front row, with Geoffers claiming pole.

I managed to get a good launch , but Tony was even quicker and led towards T1. I was just close enough on the inside to prevent him getting in to the apex and I was able to take the racing line and get a better exit. I was in the lead but on cold tyres and with the pack close on my tailpipes. Full concentration for the first lap pilled me a little gap and I was able to take a glance at the positions.
Geoffers, who I had expected to be making my life extremely uncomfortable was back in 4th place, I decided to make the most of the gap that I had and turned the wick up for several laps whilst Tony kindly bottled up Geoffers. Then I saw that he had passed Tony and was in pursuit :o, I had eeked out around 7 seconds and I worked VERY hard to maintain that cushion.
I was very conscious that just one mistake would be the end of my lead, so I was not at max attack....hoping that I was just quick enough that Geoffers was having to take risks to catch me. I was doing multiple mental calculations as to how many laps I had before Geoffers would catch me at the current rate.
But all of those predictions were thrown into chaos when I started lapping the slower cars. It was in no way their fault as the Mustang is just so much quicker, but each time I was losing precious seconds. Then Geoffers dropped back and suddenly the gap was up to around 15 secs and Tony was playing cork in the bottle again  :thumbup1:
We were now into the last 10 laps and I was watching my tyre wear carefully as in the past I have been known to throw away a possible good finish when I run out of rubber  ::). Geoffers is nothing if not persistant and bl**dy quick!! and soon he was past Tony and taking great chunks out of my lead.
Again I was doing the calculations and reckoned that I could give him a second a lap and still finish ahead, but again catching slower cars at the wrong place was proving very expensive and I just had to hope that Geoffers was getting similar problems, although he seemed to be dealing with them better than me!!???

5 laps to go and he was getting closer lap by lap, and I was treading very carefully trying to save a little rubber in reserve for what I expected to be an intense last lap battle. With 2 laps to go he was only 2 secs behind and looking very intent on taking the win. So I now had had to push and use any remaining grip if I was going to hold on to the win. Then luck played a part when Geoffers got caught behind a lapped car and I grabbed an extra 0.5 secs ( not much, but very valuable!!).
Going into the last lap it was "win or bust" and going into Hangar Straight I was beginning to feel that I might just have done enough. Braking for Stowe highlighted the poor state of my front tyres and was a little buttock clenching as the front end dived and wobbled in protest. A small powerslide on the exit to get the tail around and we survived.
A glance in the mirrors saw Geoffers only a few hundred metres back with half a lap to go,,,should be Ok if I don't screw up?? I did not look again until I took the flag and the win amazed to find that there was no one behind???!!??!
As we know it transpired that Geoffers had run out of fuel somewhere around Stowe?

Grats to Tony and Erling and commiserations to Geoffers, who made my race very uncomfortable, but definitely exciting!!

Was surprised to build such a big gap back to Bill and Kurt, who were posting better times than I was
for most of qual  ??? Had some fun trying to worry Huggy in the slower Escort, and got in front for a few laps
managed to stay in front through the turns, but was obviously slower on the straights.

I was depending on being lapped more than once, and the car was stuttering and running out of fuel
on the last straight before the finish, so just made it  ;D

Had tested with the imp and the 970S at the previous SIlverstone event, so had setups, and found the
imp more fun than it's limited top end would suggest.

Ah well, I do believe you..  ;)



For me, this is only the case in very select series; like the European GTC Cup, where I quickly realized that the wildly differing tyre wear necessitated using the Cobra & Ferrari on tracks with the least wear. Thus took some time to work out where each car was best utilized.

This series though, is complete chaos - yesterday I had prepared all available cars bar the Imp, as I simply didn't know what to put my money on.  Having missed one race, I will ultimately have to ditch one of the classes.  Expected it to be Class C, as that was the one with my poorest result, but now two class wins have turned that upside down!

Cheers,
Erling

it's a pity I could not have a Boss 302 yesterday to be able to fight with Geoffers Clive Tony and maybe we could have taken under 1:37 but I had to be content to be lapped twice by Clive, indeed it was an honor to be lapped by the most fit driver of the moment (Clive, it would be nice to challenge you to Yas Marina with DIV2).

However I used this race as a test, I wanted to see if for 25 laps I could withstand a high rhythm and now I can say that I'm quite happy even if need see what happens to Yas Marina, more curves more stress and monster car .....

Yesterday the only thing that surprised me was Erling's choice, I was sure he would have driven Boss 302, Snetterton and Silverstone were the easiest track to drive Boss 302

Grats to Clive to Tony and....to Erling also if i prefered to see Geoffers on the podium and less points for Erling......(Joking  ;D)

No tactics here either Erling, just drive what I fancy at each race.

As I had missed both the previous two races at Silverstone I couldn't resist the Mustang for this one, but could not get anywhere near the times Ziu had done in testing. As it turned out I was probably taking the corners in the wrong gear! ::)  Also must say I hate this version of the track, it is so unrealistically narrow & the corners too tight.

After nabbing pole, I made a complete mess of the start, getting the car a bit sideways & having to back off to avoid crashing into Clive which let all the Mustangs pass me before Copse. Took it a bit easy on lap 1 to get an idea where the other Mustangs were braking & had a bit of luck at Copse on lap 2 when Bob & Rog collided & let me through. Caught up to Tony but had a devil of a job getting past, he seemed to get off the corners better than me so I was never close enough to try an out-braking manoeuvre. As I was taking all the corners in 3rd gear I guessed that I was compromising my acceleration out of the turns so tried taking them in 2nd. This seemed to work & I got past Tony a lap later.

Set off after Clive & slowly started to close without risking things too much until I gave it a little too much gas at Club & lost the rear. Didn't spin but ended up on the grass on the inside & lost 2nd to Tony again. Once again it took a few laps to find a way past Tony & I was now 16s behind Clive, no chance of catching him I thought but drove hard to see how close I could get. Surprisingly I started taking big chunks out of the gap & it looked like it would be close at the end but going down the Hanger Straight on the final lap the power started to die off & I coasted around Stowe & parked up, out of fuel! Obviously taking the corners in 2nd instead of 3rd used more go-go juice.  ::)

Congrats to Clive, Tony & Erling  :clap: :clap: :clap:

Cya all at Yas Marina. Seems ages since I have had a race without a major mistake or something going wrong, luck must change soon! ;)

I wanted to, but as mentioned earlier, I need to make the most of my last Class D drive. Couldn't match Geoffer's speed, and Clive would have been a problem too, as it turned out.  Thus saving it for later, which may turn out to be an even worse decision (but perfectly in line with all my other car choices in this series..  ::))   

Should have switched to the slower FVA, but realized that too late.

Good to hear that your arm is better - best of luck on Yas Marina!

Cheers,
Erling

If you are talking about 1:36 i did it during the Silverstone race when i drove Boss, it not was a test.

Difference between drivers, i adore this version of Silverstone

No, you misunderstand Ziu, I mean I could not match your time in my testing.

Thanks for the clarification,  Geoffers

I found that to be a most enjoyable evening if not a little frustrating. Of course i breezed into Silverstone expecting to be the only driver clever enough to choose the mighty Boss. And then discovered a gaggle of the blighters. Need to know how Clive managed those qualy times......is he turning green and developing testacles tentacles?
Start was epic, left the line perfectly and before turn 1 I was leading, after turn 1 I wasn't. Clive was going for it early and being human I let him take the place (it says here). Two Mustangs dropped off and I just had to keep Geoffers behind me for the rest of the race and wind in Clive and the win was mine for the taking, or so I thought. Clive sped away and Geoffers looked like he was about to lose his patience with me. Should I let him pass so he could catch and harry the evil one? In hindsight that probably would have been the smart play, so obviously that didn't happen. Managed to keep Geoffers up my chuff in two separate sessions but he is too good to remain behing the likes of me for too long and lo, he saw a chance a went for it. I could relax now as the gap back to the chasing cars was large so watched in awe as Geoffers took huge chunks out of Clive's lead. Maybe they would take each other out and I can still sweep past victorious? No I b****y couldn't. But how awful for Geoffers to come so far to taking the lead of Clive only to be hit with a go juice shortage. Felt for you mate. Still it did give me secong spot so I'll take that.
These remaining rounds are going to be epic, I can feel it my bones. And the final race will be very, very interesting as everyone's birds come home to roost, so to speak.

Results (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/70Silverstone_25092017)

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Had hoped for a class win, but Bill was at exactly the same pace and when Matt joined the Sunbeam club I knew that there would be no chance at all.
As usual without any private praccy - maybe I should have made more experiments concerning my setup.
After a real lousy start I had a nice battle with Bill before I could build up a gap. One great off due to a shifting mistake.
I had expected a pitstop but realized after about 15 laps that it could match and started to use third gear through the corners instead second.
Had the impression that I could improve my times by doing so without the fuel problem.
CU next week.

Thanks Kurt for a nice race for first 10 or so laps. As you said with 0.015 seconds between our qualifying it was always going to be close race until one of us broke free. I've not had such close driving for a long time, slipstreaming and seeing who could be the latest on the brakes! A bit of paint swapping and occasionally panel rubbing but all racing incidents, I was surprised how often we didn't touch and both got around safety.

Eventually I just touched the grass and lost momentum and a few tenths  of second. I then tried to go around one of your faster corners a bit faster than I had been driving before and ran onto the grass losing enough time to allow you to get away. All good clean fun!

Thanks for the results Kurt  :thumbup1:

Interesting, the thoughts on tactical car choice.  I certainly do just that, and for good reason - as you all know, in any given car, for some reason I am always slower than anybody else! Therefore, picking the right car for each race, I at least have half a chance of scoring a few points, if not getting a podium finish overall. As Matt points out, even in a class two levels down from my FVA in this race, he was able to give me a good gee-ing up, and I enjoyed the fun. Often in single car series particularly, I am left doing boring solo laps.
       I too am left with rides that I know will be blown away in the remaining races, which include at least I will have to miss due to a trip to visit family Down Under, and a finish in the top five on any class let alone overall at the end of the series is unlikely - but it has helped at least maintain my interest (unlike in the other series' I entered) because I don't finish dead last half the time, with no-one to race against, especially in longer races.
So, tactics and all, hurrah for multi-class race series like this I say! :)