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Title: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 10, 2016, 01:54:41 PM +0000
Grid/server capacity: 22

Track: Cadwell Park Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg109873#post_cadwell)

Cars allowed: Aston Martin DBR1 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_aston_dbr1), Jaguar D-Type (1955 version only) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_jag_dtype), Austin Healey 100 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_healey100s), AC Ace Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_ac_ace)

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (38 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 20:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: 2x
Fuel consumption: 2x

Server: simracing.org.uk Monday
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 10, 2016, 03:24:01 PM +0000
Unfortunately the transition from day/dusk/night isn't implemented too well at this track. Fair to say it will never be too dark.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: BillThomas on May 04, 2017, 06:59:26 AM +0100
I've downloaded the 3 cars and they are shown as available but I am unable to buy a car (the icon to By Car is not high lighted). I think either a file has been corrupted or deleted. Will investigate further. 


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 04, 2017, 09:07:11 AM +0100
I've downloaded the 3 cars and they are shown as available but I am unable to buy a car (the icon to By Car is not high lighted). I think either a file has been corrupted or deleted. Will investigate further. 
Do you have enough money?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: BillThomas on May 04, 2017, 12:02:18 PM +0100
I've downloaded the 3 cars and they are shown as available but I am unable to buy a car (the icon to By Car is not high lighted). I think either a file has been corrupted or deleted. Will investigate further. 
Do you have enough money?

Thank for that Tony the answer is NO.  ???

How do I get more money please? Do I need to delete all cars and tracks and re-install or is the a simpler way?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Erling G-P on May 04, 2017, 02:54:07 PM +0100
I've downloaded the 3 cars and they are shown as available but I am unable to buy a car (the icon to By Car is not high lighted). I think either a file has been corrupted or deleted. Will investigate further. 
Do you have enough money?

Thank for that Tony the answer is NO.  ???

How do I get more money please? Do I need to delete all cars and tracks and re-install or is the a simpler way?

There's a cheat you can run, that gives you a lot of money.  Can't remember offhand how it works, but will try and check, once I get home.

Cheers,
Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: BillThomas on May 04, 2017, 03:35:24 PM +0100
I've downloaded the 3 cars and they are shown as available but I am unable to buy a car (the icon to By Car is not high lighted). I think either a file has been corrupted or deleted. Will investigate further. 
Do you have enough money?

Thank for that Tony the answer is NO.  ???

How do I get more money please? Do I need to delete all cars and tracks and re-install or is the a simpler way?

There's a cheat you can run, that gives you a lot of money.  Can't remember offhand how it works, but will try and check, once I get home.

Cheers,
Erling

Thanks Erling, I have the usual cheat all cars and all tracks but after many years of online racing I'm down to 150 credits which is insufficient to buy a car for this race. Good news I'm OK for Monday's CanAm race as I have the complete set of cars, as I have for the various Series we've already raced in. I've over a week to find the solution for this race. As Tony asked the right question I hope there is a simple solution like changing a line somewhere to top up my credit account.

Cheers

Bill


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 04, 2017, 04:13:16 PM +0100
Choose a downloaded car that your not currently using. Edit it's cash value (it's near the bottom) by entering the .car file . Sell the car.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: BillThomas on May 04, 2017, 04:43:28 PM +0100
Choose a downloaded car that your not currently using. Edit it's cash value (it's near the bottom) by entering the .car file . Sell the car.

Thanks Tony will give it a whirl later.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 04, 2017, 07:08:56 PM +0100
Then edit the car value again to 1 and re-buy it


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: BillThomas on May 04, 2017, 08:34:26 PM +0100
Choose a downloaded car that your not currently using. Edit it's cash value (it's near the bottom) by entering the .car file . Sell the car.

Found the .CAR file but don't see how to enter it, help please Tony.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Jeep on May 04, 2017, 08:59:22 PM +0100
Hi Bill,
 Do you mean you can't find the value or you can't open the file?

The car value is near the bottom...

Number=5
Team="Aston Martin Lagonda"
PitGroup="Aston Martin"
Driver="Graham Whitehead"
Description="Aston Martin DBR2"
Engine="Aston Martin"
Manufacturer="ASTONMARTIN_DBR2"
classes="SIM_FULL, SIM_LM55, SIM_4SDBR2, SIM_TOURING, SIM_DAG3NOT, SIM_GTC65"   
ComparativeTime=110
Value=270000

If you can't open the file because nothing is associated with the file type you should be able to just double click and then select notepad from a list of available programs to open it with.

Just a useful hint... I have notepad configured in my "sendto" folder (So if I right click I can send any file to notepad - Many files are simply text files regardless of the extension).

An alternative is if you already have the cheat installed create a new driver.. That will give you all the credits back. (Only works with drivers created after installing the cheat)

TTFN
John.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: BillThomas on May 05, 2017, 06:25:57 AM +0100
Hi Bill,
 Do you mean you can't find the value or you can't open the file?

The car value is near the bottom...

Number=5
Team="Aston Martin Lagonda"
PitGroup="Aston Martin"
Driver="Graham Whitehead"
Description="Aston Martin DBR2"
Engine="Aston Martin"
Manufacturer="ASTONMARTIN_DBR2"
classes="SIM_FULL, SIM_LM55, SIM_4SDBR2, SIM_TOURING, SIM_DAG3NOT, SIM_GTC65"   
ComparativeTime=110
Value=270000

If you can't open the file because nothing is associated with the file type you should be able to just double click and then select notepad from a list of available programs to open it with.

Just a useful hint... I have notepad configured in my "sendto" folder (So if I right click I can send any file to notepad - Many files are simply text files regardless of the extension).

An alternative is if you already have the cheat installed create a new driver.. That will give you all the credits back. (Only works with drivers created after installing the cheat)

TTFN
John.


Thanks John, that was my problem opening the file I didn't want to screw up. With over a week before the race I'd thought it was best to wait for advice. Now I know I can use note pad I'll be able to get on with it. ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: SpecialKS on May 05, 2017, 06:56:09 AM +0100
Hi Bill,
 Do you mean you can't find the value or you can't open the file?

The car value is near the bottom...

Number=5
Team="Aston Martin Lagonda"
PitGroup="Aston Martin"
Driver="Graham Whitehead"
Description="Aston Martin DBR2"
Engine="Aston Martin"
Manufacturer="ASTONMARTIN_DBR2"
classes="SIM_FULL, SIM_LM55, SIM_4SDBR2, SIM_TOURING, SIM_DAG3NOT, SIM_GTC65"   
ComparativeTime=110
Value=270000

If you can't open the file because nothing is associated with the file type you should be able to just double click and then select notepad from a list of available programs to open it with.

Just a useful hint... I have notepad configured in my "sendto" folder (So if I right click I can send any file to notepad - Many files are simply text files regardless of the extension).

An alternative is if you already have the cheat installed create a new driver.. That will give you all the credits back. (Only works with drivers created after installing the cheat)

TTFN
John.


Thanks John, that was my problem opening the file I didn't want to screw up. With over a week before the race I'd thought it was best to wait for advice. Now I know I can use note pad I'll be able to get on with it. ;D

Had a similar problem long time ago. If I remember right I was able to solve it by adding a line "locked=0" under the line "value=..." where it was missing. Some cars have it, some not.

Number=5
Team="Aston Martin Lagonda"
PitGroup="Aston Martin"
Driver="Graham Whitehead"
Description="Aston Martin DBR2"
Engine="Aston Martin"
Manufacturer="ASTONMARTIN_DBR2"
classes="SIM_FULL, SIM_LM55, SIM_4SDBR2, SIM_TOURING, SIM_DAG3NOT, SIM_GTC65"   
ComparativeTime=110
Value=270000
Locked=0

No idea, if I can check/reproduce that issue when I'm at home.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 05, 2017, 09:27:59 AM +0100
Alternatively Bill could edit the values of the cars he needs to buy to £1 each


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Erling G-P on May 05, 2017, 10:11:40 AM +0100
Alternatively Bill could edit the values of the cars he needs to buy to £1 each

I'd like that feature for a real car dealership..  ;D

Cheers,
Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Jeep on May 06, 2017, 10:07:38 AM +0100
Just an additional note about modifying files.....

Make sure you save it as "all files" and not as "txt".

Not sure if you have file types turned on. If you save it as txt the extension will be ".car.txt" and GTL will not recognise it..

TTFN

John


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: BillThomas on May 06, 2017, 02:00:33 PM +0100
Thanks to all those who gave me advice I think between us I'm sorted. ;D
Firstly my old AV appeared to have severely messed up all my GTL Installations, under Gamedata it looked like a Clean Installation but when any one of a handful of installations were run just about all car I've ever down loaded were shown, many were ready to race but lots were not purchased.  When I tried to buy any I had insufficient credits so I sold a couple of cars we used in Geoffer's 63WSC Series allowing me to buy an Ace, AH100S and DBR 1 having opened the CAR file as Tony suggested and changed the cost to £1. So I hope to be OK now for the rest of Season 17.

For the future I did the equivalent of what Matt suggested, fortunately I'd copied a virtually clean copy of my initial Season 14 Installation on an old USB stick. Downloaded it onto my PC updated the Server Address and it's all ready for Season 18 and a new NoGrip Series!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 06, 2017, 02:02:06 PM +0100
Good news Bill


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 09, 2017, 09:02:54 AM +0100
IMPORTANT

I just spotted that the Jag D-type was not showing in the list of cars to use so I have now corrected this.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: phspok on May 09, 2017, 10:00:54 AM +0100
"car not present on server" when i try to join with it.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 09, 2017, 10:30:39 AM +0100
"car not present on server" when i try to join with it.
Yeah, sorry Matt. I need to add the Jag to the server garage. I only spotted the error this morning. I will fix tonight when I get home.
I presume you meant the Jag?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: phspok on May 09, 2017, 10:34:20 AM +0100
Yep Jag 55


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 09, 2017, 07:11:09 PM +0100
Jaguar's now on the server.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: misnoimis on May 09, 2017, 08:33:15 PM +0100
I’m not a fan of racing in the dark but as Tony says it’s still quite light online at this track at 20:00 hours. Anyway, Looking at the cars available I have contrived a cunning plan to help me see.

The track is great fun so I hope to make this race.  :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: BillThomas on May 09, 2017, 09:12:37 PM +0100
I've got no engine sound on acceleration with the AH100S  ::) ??? misnoimis said his sound was OK, hope it won't affect my race.  Will use the D Type 1955.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 09, 2017, 11:14:53 PM +0100
I have updated the version of Cadwell on the server. Please check that the track you have contains a readme file with this as it's header "Cadwell Park 3.3 for GTL".


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 09, 2017, 11:20:33 PM +0100
I've got no engine sound on acceleration with the AH100S  ::) ??? misnoimis said his sound was OK, hope it won't affect my race.  Will use the D Type 1955.
ygm


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 10, 2017, 12:02:40 AM +0100
IMPORTANT

Tyre wear reduced to 2x. What was I thinking off?  ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 10, 2017, 12:48:27 AM +0100
To start the ball rolling here are my current best times (don't laugh)

With full tanks my times are:

Aston 1:38
Healey 1:39
AC 1:39
Jag 1:40!

The Aston and Jag eat tyre rubber


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: phspok on May 10, 2017, 11:03:22 AM +0100
With half tanks

Jag 55  - 1:35.4
AC Ace - 1:35.8
Ah 100 - 1:36.0
DBR1    - 1:37.0



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Erling G-P on May 10, 2017, 11:56:05 AM +0100
With half tanks

Jag 55  - 1:35.4
AC Ace - 1:35.8
Ah 100 - 1:36.0
DBR1    - 1:37.0



 :eek: :eek:  Fastest in Jag & AC!!   I wasn't even going to try these two, as I figured the Jag to be too bonkers here, and the AC too slow..

Own times, full tank (nearly):

AH: 1:36.9
AM: 1:36.3

Cheers,
Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: phspok on May 10, 2017, 12:05:59 PM +0100
Jag is bonkers, but it's turn in and loose back end make it fast here if you can drive it
The ACE is slow, but with a suitable setup it can be pushed very hard, and is easier
to be consistent


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 10, 2017, 06:53:23 PM +0100
Previous versions of Cadwell Park had some odd cuts at some turns. If you come across a cut that you think was unwarranted could you please post here, thank you.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Jeep on May 10, 2017, 09:29:11 PM +0100
I think I definitely have some work to do,  :( not even decided which car to take yet.   ???

DBR1  1:36.8
Ace     1:37.3
AH100 1:37.8
Jag      1:42.3 Although I was up 4 seconds until the Mountain and crossed it all up putting the power down too early.

TTFN
John.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Erling G-P on May 11, 2017, 03:05:13 PM +0100
1:35 is slow


By your standards maybe, but you're sort of in a class of your own...  ;)

Cheers,
Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: SpecialKS on May 11, 2017, 09:39:47 PM +0100
AH100 1:37.1
ACE 1:39.16
DBR1 1:39.2

It looks like I already made my decision.

Looking forward to this one. Still love the LM55

(BTW: there is a 51-Jag C-Type by Nig available for GTL over at http://www.evolution-modding.com/ (http://www.evolution-modding.com/). Car is not yet completely finished (NIG quitted modding) but hoping for completion and nice to drive)  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: EvilClive on May 12, 2017, 08:54:22 AM +0100
Oh dear.
 Just caught up with this thread, and it looks like you guys are into some serious preparation for this event.  :-\

Seeing this has made me think that I might try and get some practice laps in before Monday.  It is a long time since I have driven Cadwell Park, and I can see that these cars might be a handful around this circuit.

It would be nice to put up a good show in memory of Laurie Clemo, who I regularly raced in GPL too, where he was the same true gentleman driver.



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: misnoimis on May 12, 2017, 11:59:57 AM +0100
The track should be fun, not easy to overtake on though.

I think my controller must have caught the bug other people have mentioned. About three times now a gear has failed to engage on my G25 shifter while practising. I hope this doesn’t happen during a race. My keyboard is also playing up. If I use chat online it looks something like “ i att tanks fothe advce n howto tke cornr it seems to workkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk”. All I am saying is don’t expect a quick reply from me.

I think the DB1 is possibly the quickest for me but the 100S is a little easier to drive so I will chose it for the race. The setup is key. I am not very good at it. I have one that works well for three quarters of the lap but not the left right left right twisty bit towards the end. I think I will go for the safer option. I will drive the Healey with the two extra spotlights. Then I can imagine I am able to see better. A little concerned that it has no Roll Over Bar.

I think I am getting some quite good times on low fuel so will now have to practice on a full fuel load and see how it goes.

C U Monday I hope. :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: phspok on May 12, 2017, 04:51:42 PM +0100
Racers, Pilotes, Pilota da Corsa.

I am starting 4 new series in Race Room, starting next week
They are all "Classic" though not as historic as what we do on here.
We could use some more people to make the races even more exiting
We have some seriously good fun with the small numbers who turn up, so a couple more would be a big plus  :thumbup1: :thumbup1: :thumbup1:

If you decide to give it a whirl, there is a small investment needed. The game is free through Steam, and comes
with some free cars, and a couple of tracks.

The first event will be with the DTM92 car pack, and Bathurst circuit.
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=14398#event5473

You can look at the cars in a pack, or one track and just buy the one you fancy, people will be happy to advise what would work for your tastes
or you can just buy the packs, and track packs as required.

The next event after that is using the monster GTO cars (though this series includes the GTO, Gr5, and BMW Procar) at Anderstorp (need to purchase)
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=14399#event5484

Then Touring Classics, which are very similar to the DTM92 style car at Portimao, which is a free track in the game.
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=14403#event5485 (though the Nissan may be disallowed, as it can be too fast)

Next is the NSU TT car at Sachsenring. The NSUs are slow, but we get some fabulously close racing  8)
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=14401#event5472




Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: BillThomas on May 15, 2017, 12:05:04 PM +0100
Tony I can't see the GTL Monday nights Cadwell in the lobby, has it been changed over from a previous race?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 15, 2017, 12:29:54 PM +0100
Tony I can't see the GTL Monday nights Cadwell in the lobby, has it been changed over from a previous race?
Probably not! Can any admins have a looksee please?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: phspok on May 15, 2017, 12:43:22 PM +0100
Server wasn't running, is now  :chef:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: BillThomas on May 15, 2017, 01:02:20 PM +0100
Server wasn't running, is now  :chef:

Thanks Matt???????? ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 15, 2017, 01:19:12 PM +0100
Server wasn't running, is now  :chef:
Cheers Matt.

Now where's that 8L00DY Goldtop!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 15, 2017, 01:26:59 PM +0100
 :offtopic:

Grats to Jeep on his 2nd consecutive win in GPL  :thumbup2:

 :offtopic:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: phspok on May 15, 2017, 01:41:27 PM +0100
GT wasn't racing last night he was AWOL, I just reset the R3E Server and restarted the GTL one as well
I tend not to bother shutting down the GTL server, as there isn't usually many people on it for practice, and there are not
so many racers in the R3E events that I worry about network overloading. Same for AC it's a mess tho have that one
restarted apparently, so I just leave it.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 15, 2017, 02:00:56 PM +0100
GT wasn't racing last night he was AWOL, I just reset the R3E Server and restarted the GTL one as well
I tend not to bother shutting down the GTL server, as there isn't usually many people on it for practice, and there are not
so many racers in the R3E events that I worry about network overloading. Same for AC it's a mess tho have that one
restarted apparently, so I just leave it.

Sorry Matt and apologies to GT.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 15, 2017, 02:23:10 PM +0100
Nice in-car footage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOjL1TUIDHs&t=145s

Hmmm..........Mini v Imp series  8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Bob M. on May 15, 2017, 06:36:33 PM +0100
Wow!! Elevation changes are a lot more radical than what the games conveys.. Great video...
Mini Vs Imp sounds good to me.................

Bob M


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Jeep on May 15, 2017, 08:02:49 PM +0100
:offtopic:

Grats to Jeep on his 2nd consecutive win in GPL  :thumbup2:

 :offtopic:


Thanks Tony,
 Didn't really deserve it despite the final gap. Back markers were very unkind to Dave behind, he was definitely faster than me, A Tortoise verses Hare race where no mistakes paid dividends

TTFN
John.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: BillThomas on May 15, 2017, 08:50:55 PM +0100
Well that didn't last long I got bumped off and finished up on the start straight with a warning.  ::) Tried to drive around to serve penalty but was starting to be lapped when I spun and quit so as not to ruin anybody else's race.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Bob M. on May 15, 2017, 09:54:24 PM +0100
I'm afraid that was me Bill.  I stopped and waited and then Clive went by in a white/blue car and I thought it was you.  Just wasn't my day all the way around.  Tony can strip me of my finish place.  Big sorry and my head is hanging low!!!

Bob M.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 15, 2017, 10:19:29 PM +0100
Replay and results now posted.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: misnoimis on May 15, 2017, 10:26:54 PM +0100
I really enjoyed that. Probably one of my best races. The fact that my G25 rejected 3rd gear a handful of times failed to mar my enjoyment although it cost me a few places at times I’m sure.

I was having a great time chasing Jeep, in places I was getting held up. The Aston is a bit of a handful but makes up for it on the straights. I had just worked out two places where I thought I might try a pass. But unfortunately I think I gave him a tap before we got to them (I’m not 100% sure, say 60%) sending him onto the grass. A big sorry if I was guilty. I pulled over and waited for what seemed an age before he passed, this let three or four cars past us. We then set off in pursuit having fallen into the clutches of Tony and Bob and had some exciting moments. My 3rd gear which had played up once early in the race then went  and crazy and refused to engage about four more times making life difficult for me.  Anyway it was interesting trying to handle it and finish the race, quite satisfying in a way. I will now be searching out the electrical contact spray. I hope this works.
 
I don’t know what happened to JEEP. I think he pulled over just before the end of the race. Problem or fuel?

Grats to winner and podiums. :clap: I hope to race next in two weeks’ time.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: BillThomas on May 16, 2017, 05:52:01 AM +0100
I'm afraid that was me Bill.  I stopped and waited and then Clive went by in a white/blue car and I thought it was you.  Just wasn't my day all the way around.  Tony can strip me of my finish place.  Big sorry and my head is hanging low!!!

Bob M.

As far as I'm concerned it was a racing incident, annoying at the time but that's life! My turn next week! ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: EvilClive on May 16, 2017, 09:44:59 AM +0100
Really sad that I was not part of this memorial race for Laurie, but grats to the podium and finishers.

I was hoping to challenge at the front for this race and maybe give the top guys something to worry about.
I think I posted last week that I was hoping to get some off-line practice, simply because it was for Laurie and I wanted to be ready. I did find time on Saturday evening ( my wife made a democratic decision to watch a recorded programme that held no interest for me, so I retreated to the computer) and my first thought was that the Aston should be quick. But I struggled to get it below 1:36.5 and the already posted lap times showed that I needed more. Next up was the Jag that Matt was championing, and that was a disaster for me, despite liking a car that slides a little I could not make it quick enough or see the tyres lasting more than 10 laps.
Mentally I had thought the Healey to be the weakest car, so the Ace was the next choice and I quickly had that lapping comfortably in the low 1:35's, but I just could not find a way to make it go faster. I had almost decided that the Ace would be my car, because it was so comfortable to drive reasonably quickly. I thought that I should at least try the Healey, just to be fair.
I applied a few of my standard setup tweaks before I rolled out of the pits and when my first flying lap was almost exactly 1:35..... I was suddenly interested. As the laps clicked by the times dropped, and few minor adjustments to gears and springs etc improved the feel. After about 30 mins I was consistently in the 1:33's and when I popped in a mid 1:32 on a lap that was a little scruffy, I figured that the decision was made...the Healey would race on Monday night.
When I joined the server I was not surprised to see Ziu already posting 1:33's, but I suspected that Erling and one or two others were sandbagging with 1:34 laps.
I took a few laps to dial in again and was able to get down to 1:33's quite quickly. Then qually...... on a circuit where there are few overtaking opportunities. Initially posted a banker lap that got me on to the front row, but I knew that I could go faster. Twice on fast laps with almost 0.75 secs in hand and a low 1:32 likely I caught other cars on their hot laps and had to abort. Then I got a clear lap and stole pole position but it was not a good lap, so I tried again and was just on the last corner and up by over 0.5secs when qually ended.
My position board showed that Ziu had pipped my earlier lap to reclaim pole, but his time was flashing ( as were a few others) and my name was totally missing?????????  I scrolled down and at the bottom of the list I found my name in red and a DQ against it?????
Not aware that I did anything wrong that would cause DQ, but there was nothing I could do about it anyway. :-\  If anyone has any thoughts as to why I should have been dumped from this race I would like to know.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 16, 2017, 09:51:56 AM +0100
Clive, I wish I could help but the circumstances you describe are new to me. I'm as mystified as you.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: misnoimis on May 16, 2017, 11:01:07 AM +0100
I have just watched part of the replay and see I did give John a slight nudge. No damage to my car, no dents, headlights still working etc. The consequences seem a bit extreme with his car going onto the grass and then performing aerobatics.  A pity because it probably lost us both a place and being aware the Aston was tricky to drive in places I was trying always leave a bit of space in order to avoid any contact. As it happened just before a refuelling stop I wonder if he was suffering tyre wear and was a bit slower than usual at that point. Over a lap both cars were about equal on times but there was a real yo yo effect during the lap due to the two cars relative strengths and weaknesses  on different parts of the track.

It was a very interesting race for me, pity about my mistake. It was obviously not John’s day as he ran out of fuel on the last lap.
 
BTW I can make next week’s race but not the following one. :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Erling G-P on May 16, 2017, 11:24:50 AM +0100
First of all commiserations to Clive, who looked set for a very strong performance, only to be cruelly robbed of it, before it even began.  I can recall seeing drivers listed with red 'DQ' right before the start, but have never seen an explanation as to why.

Really enjoyed the race myself. Cadwell has always been a favorite of mine; just love those elevation changes.  Initially I had dismissed both Ace and Jag; the former for being too slow, the latter for being too bonkers on this track, and for its tyre munching tendencies, as stated by Tony.  Thus tested with Aston and Healey. Posted 1:36.3 & 1:36.9 respectively. With its much higher tyre wear, it seemed unlikely the small advantage of the Aston would matter in the race, so with a heavy heart I abandoned the idea of using this most gloriously sounding car.

Then Matt stirred the pot by being really quick in Jag & Ace. Had to try the latter. Huge fun and really 'abusable', and eventually I pipped my best Healey time, with a 1:36.8 lap.  However, with its tyre wear rate literally being double that of a Healey on vintage rubber, suggested it wouldn't be the best choice for the race.  When I returned to the Healey and clocked my first timed lap at 1:36.5, the choice was a no-brainer. Fiddling with the suspension yielded immediate improvements, culminating in a 1:34.6 lap.  Healey it was!

Joined server in pre-race praccy, and was shocked to see Clive at the very top. Shouldn't have been, as his been very quick in these cars before.  Qual started and I dipped into the 33's for the first time. Had seen Clive do a 1:33.9 in praccy, so was optimistic when I went to see the board after posting a new pb of 1:33.7.  .....Yikes, Clive's on pole!!!....No wait, he isn't anymore; Ziu has pressed his "If Ziu isn't on pole, use this" button, and snatched it from Clive!!.....Well, at least I'm 3rd...Nooooooooo, Bloody Geoffers stole it!!!....After the time had run out and by a mere 4/1000!!  :o

Joined grid and became increasingly worried, as the empty slot in front of me remained empty as time ran out.  Start ok and I retained my position. First couple of laps confusing, as pit board showed me to be 4th, but there was definitely only 2 cars in front (unless one had activated a cloaking device..).  Hot pursuit of Geoffers right from the start.  We slowly eased away from Matt, while up ahead Ziu did the same to us.  Tried to put as much pressure on Geoffers as I could, but he's not easily rattled; I'll give him that.  He had moments here and there, but always recovered before I could exploit them. Knew his tyres were disappearing twice as fast as mine however, so at some point I would have an advantage. After around 10 laps, he ran wide at the penultimate righthander, allowing me to claim the inside line into the final one.  Would I be able to hold up as well under pressure as Geoff, now that I had gotten in front ?  We never found out, sadly, as Geoffers spun off on the next lap.

By then, Ziu was around 17 secs ahead and still moving away. He pitted earlier than me, so I borrowed the lead for a couple of laps. After my own stop, I was soon back in 2nd, now 10 secs behind Ziu. Gap dropped a little and stabilized around 7 secs. Seemed obvious he was just managing the gap.  I kept pushing as hard as I could, in case he should suffer delays of some kind. Got a little closer towards the end, but not enough.

Grats to Ziu on winning, and Matt for completing the podium.  Thanks to those I lapped; hope I didn't spoil any of the battles going on.  Commiserations to those who met misfortune.  And not least, a thought to Lawrence; wished he could have been there.

Clive: I can assure you, that once I'm on the server pre-race there's NO sandbagging - I always go as fast as I can  ;) (And bloody impressed by the times you & Ziu squeezed out of the Healey  :o)

Cheers,
Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 16, 2017, 11:55:54 AM +0100
Ziu has pressed his "If Ziu isn't on pole, use this" button,
:lol: :yes:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 16, 2017, 12:33:13 PM +0100
The first "proper" racing I've had in weeks and I loved it. Started low down the order but due to the misfortunes of others found myself in familiar territory, halfway between the fast pack in front and the stragglers behind. Lap after lap I watched Bob's time decrease to my own so by the time he caught me I decided to let him pass as it seemed unfair to slow his pace. Later he must of had an incident as I passed him. Then followed some fantastic racing as he kept up my chuff for lap after lap. Actually I think it was my quick lap stop that put him behind me as I only stopped for fuel so was on poor grip tyres. Later we were joined by the battling Jeep and Misnomis but eventually they all passed me. But it was exciting stuff for quite a few laps, even more so when we slowed to let lappers pass whilst trying to keep position and not hand the opposition a chance to sneek by. Thinking back I know that at some part in the race I let Misnomis pass me mistaking him for a fast guy wanting to lap me.

Thanks to everyone who took part last night and wasn't it great to be back in '50's machinery?

On to the '71 BSCC and our first meet in this series at Silverstone. Looking forward to that.




Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Geoffers on May 16, 2017, 01:38:54 PM +0100
As usual turned up without any practice & chose the Ace as I thought it would be a fairly easy drive. Loaded up my setup from Meadowdale last year & set off for a few practice laps. First couple of laps highlighted that the gearing was too high & the car was too loose on turn in & wanted to swap ends on the tight corners. Lower gearing & some suspension & diff tweeks made the car much more driveable & I was able to just get in the 1.34s. Qually saw an improvement into the 1.33s & just pipped Erling for 3rd on the grid.

Bit nervous at the start when Clive's car didn't appear on the grid, was half expecting it to pop up in front of me on the run to the first turn. Bad luck on that strange DQ Clive, odd one that, & doesn't it always happen when you are right on the pace!  ::)

Anyway got away in 2nd behind Ziu who soon disappeared over the horizon while I settled in, Erling was right behind & managed to hold him off for about 10-12 laps. But as the tyres wore it became more difficult to get the car to change direction in the esse-bends, got the Gooseneck wrong a couple of times & when I struggled to get it under control for the Woodlands hairpin Erling nipped past on the run to Barn. Tried to keep up but lost it at the Gooseneck on the next lap & then went off twice more in the next 2 laps & dropped behind Matt, John & Misnoimis.

Regained a place when Matt went off & was back upto 3rd when John & Misnoimis had a slight disagreement. Pitstop went well & was well clear in 3rd when all stops had been completed. Was never going to get near Ziu & Erling & had settled for 3rd when I hit the barrier approaching Barn & wrecked the suspension & finished up deep in the undergrowth on the inside of the corner, race over. ::)

Congrats to Ziu, Erling & Matt.  :clap: :clap: :clap:

Off to Spa this weekend so will miss next week's race (always seems to be Silverstone races I miss!), so see ya all at Sebring.  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Erling G-P on May 16, 2017, 02:17:40 PM +0100
... Thinking back I know that at some part in the race I let Misnomis pass me mistaking him for a fast guy wanting to lap me.

Coming races everyone will be in same car/colour combo as Ziu, honking their horns and flashing lights, pretending to be a lapper...  ;D


Thanks to everyone who took part last night and wasn't it great to be back in '50's machinery?

Yes it was great - and huge fun on this track!  :yes:

Cheers,
Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Bob M. on May 16, 2017, 04:17:49 PM +0100
What a great race, after lap 1 that is.   Sorry again Bill, guess the adrenalin was flowing pretty good with my pre-race troubles, I  guess it was with a corrupt file or something with the Aston load.  Should have had more patience, picked the wrong corner to stick my nose in to pass you.  As Tony said, we had a great battle, just couldn't get around you, the 100 has just a little more power out of the corners than the AC and I would start to get into position to pass and another corner would be there, and I didn't want another incident like with Bill.  Although I did tickle your rear bumper a few times and forced you to make one great save after a bigger bump. Yes I did take tires, I found offline it made the pitstops about 20/25 seconds longer but the AC suffered badly to me after about 20 laps because of old tires.  Maybe just my setup or my driving style.  Cadwell is one of my favorite short tracks, have raced it many times in everything from Mini's to V8  Muscle cars and everthing in between.  Good fun...Grats to the podium also....

Another note:  GTL is still going strong, I was going to check out the track online Sunday late PM states time and their must have been 35 to 40 drivers up on the Bude tracks.  Great to see, I think most were in the new LM mod cars races.

Bob M.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: SpecialKS on May 16, 2017, 06:39:34 PM +0100
Thanks to everyone who took part last night and wasn't it great to be back in '50's machinery?

Yes indeed, but unfortunately another disappointing performance from my side.
Great fun in private praccy but I was unable to find the right mood in the race yesterday.

Better days will come.

Results (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/Cadwell_15052017)

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Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Jeep on May 17, 2017, 12:33:04 AM +0100
Well, My race could be summed up in 3 words.... "What a Plonker". Not the 1st time I've run out of fuel with only a lap or so to go.  ???

Saw Bob was having issues with the Aston I had chosen so dropped out during Q waited for him to get in and then rejoined in a different Aston so of course lost my previous qualifying times. :( Eventually re qualified in 7th which was about where I was originally I think. I knew the Aston wsn't really a good choice around here but I just love driving it and listening to that engine. Tyres were pretty much shot by about lap 11.

Apart from miscalculating the fuel on the pit stop I had a great time. A race long battle with Misnoimis giving him ample opportunity to savour the sound of the Aston as it howled around the circuit (I couldn't hear his Healey even when I was behind it). Was able to pull a gap for the 1st half of the lap but he was right up my A$$ by the gooseneck. Pit stops completed and found myself with Tony and Bob in the mix as well and we all followed each other around for a few laps. About two thirds into the race I got a nudge from Misnoimis exiting T1. It wasn't much but the Aston seems very susceptable to mistakes and several cartwheels later I found myself on my roof and waited patiently for the marshals to put me back on my wheels. Misnoimis had waited at the end of the straight and we resumed our sparring. A few laps later the tyres screamed enough!!! and I ran wide at the end of the straight and he was through. I then regained the position a few laps later only to lose it again on the run down from the Gooseneck but got the position back again into the Mountain. I finally thought I had broken free of his grasp only to run out of fuel with 2 to go.

But other than under estimating the fuel a tad It was a really enjoyable race. I think these beasts should become a UKGTL signature event with at least 1 being run each season.

Thanks guys it was a blast as usual.

TTFN
John.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: 55steve55 on May 17, 2017, 07:13:45 AM +0100
the only button I pressed before entering the server was to flush the bog

I like the humour, Ziu. Only you could link the Server dumping Clive with your own pre-race appointment with the loo :laugh:

I think the Healey offers one of the smoothest and most predicable drives available and always seems to be quicker than it looks and sounds, and on Cadwell's switchback topography, a true drivers challenge.

Despite being the last to cross the line, I did enjoy the race. As Tony says, it's a very satisfying and "proper" circuit to race on, a very British circuit, like Goodwood and yes, already looking ahead to next week's '71 race.





Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 21, 2017, 11:27:57 AM +0100
Thanks to everyone who took part last night and wasn't it great to be back in '50's machinery?

Yes indeed, but unfortunately another disappointing performance from my side.
Great fun in private praccy but I was unable to find the right mood in the race yesterday.

Better days will come.

Results (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/Cadwell_15052017)

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Thanks for the results Kurt, somehow missed your post.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 17 Lawrence Clemo Memorial Trophy - Cadwell Park - May 15
Post by: Erling G-P on May 29, 2017, 01:46:54 PM +0100
...... so I tried again and was just on the last corner and up by over 0.5secs when qually ended.
My position board showed that Ziu had pipped my earlier lap to reclaim pole, but his time was flashing ( as were a few others) and my name was totally missing?????????  I scrolled down and at the bottom of the list I found my name in red and a DQ against it?????
Not aware that I did anything wrong that would cause DQ, but there was nothing I could do about it anyway. :-\  If anyone has any thoughts as to why I should have been dumped from this race I would like to know.

Just had an idea:  Could the DQ be if you stay on track for too long after qually ends - or does it just kick you back to the garage ?

Cheers,
Erling