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Title: UKGPL Season 30 - CanAm 66 - Interlagos - Dec 20
Post by: Cookie on December 19, 2016, 03:51:24 PM +0000
Season 30 - CanAm 66s - Fun Race – on the Interlagos 70' track

Autodromo de Interlagos 70'
São Paulo, Brasil

As there have been some problems at the 69X race, we will test the track again with another mod.
To prove if it was the track or a drivers connection, for this race WiFi is not allowed


Fun races will not be moderated – have fun please drive like a gentleman.
No limits in car choice or resets.

Race listiGOR
ServerUKGPL_8
IP addresslook at IGOR
Date20-12-2016
Track  Interlagos70 (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=11607&#entry122042)
ModCANM66 with 60fpsV2newmod
Damage INT long
Race timeRace starts at 21:30 UK time
Qualifying ~45 minutes, starting ~ 20:45 UK time
Race length14 laps
Replay get here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/replays/Archive/Season30/)

Please restrict chat to emergency messages only including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

GLA and FUN


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 - CanAm 66 - Interlagos - Dec 20
Post by: kinghiro on December 19, 2016, 07:30:11 PM +0000
Hi guys Im still alive. I ll try maxe it:)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 - CanAm 66 - Interlagos - Dec 20
Post by: Tom van Ostade on December 19, 2016, 09:14:57 PM +0000
Welcome back Tom! Long time no see :) .

We're practicing in iGOR NOW!

1966 Can-Am setups:

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=13742.0

Tommie.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 - CanAm 66 - Interlagos - Dec 20
Post by: kinghiro on December 20, 2016, 04:32:03 AM +0000
thx buddy I saw it bit late. Anyway I seem to have an issue with track. I noticed IGOR wouldnt let me join cause not installed. I put in that new ini file but didnt help. Even my gem says not installed after I moved it into the proper place . Never experienced before ???


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 - CanAm 66 - Interlagos - Dec 20
Post by: Cookie on December 20, 2016, 07:58:51 AM +0000
Welcome back Thomas,

have you checked the season.ini with an editor? Maybe some info is scrambled there.

It often helps to create a new one of a backed up version.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 - CanAm 66 - Interlagos - Dec 20
Post by: kinghiro on December 20, 2016, 03:18:56 PM +0000
oh I didn t back up ;(. no idea what to look for. If I install other tracks its ok. Just that interlagos. I tried remove it reinstall it etc etc. It moves like supposed but when I go out to main gem and back to the season page it will say ****not installed interlag  ???
No idea what to look for at the ini


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 - CanAm 66 - Interlagos - Dec 20
Post by: Tom van Ostade on December 20, 2016, 03:29:06 PM +0000
It could be a problem on GEM+ / iGOR's end, since sgem.ini has not been updated for the new track. Not quite sure how to fix it, but there is an easy workaround :)

1. Go to iGOR, and find the server IP:

(http://www.gpldownloads.net/GPL_TvO/IP_1.jpg)

2. Open GPL, select 'Multiplayer', and type in the IP address:

(http://www.gpldownloads.net/GPL_TvO/IP_2.jpg)

That's it :) .

Tommie.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 - CanAm 66 - Interlagos - Dec 20
Post by: kinghiro on December 20, 2016, 04:52:25 PM +0000
I llm try right away:). Interlag is not the only track. cpl others too , spa67 paci67.. says not installed even if they are


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 - CanAm 66 - Interlagos - Dec 20
Post by: Cookie on December 20, 2016, 05:04:56 PM +0000
Try this ini-> https://www.sendspace.com/file/4vnupm

Server is up atm ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 - CanAm 66 - Interlagos - Dec 20
Post by: kinghiro on December 20, 2016, 06:49:42 PM +0000
wont connect.  connected once when I went straight to the exe for 66 but stuttery. not able later what I do? reinstall gem? I tried make a parallell but no joy


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 - CanAm 66 - Interlagos - Dec 20
Post by: kinghiro on December 20, 2016, 06:53:50 PM +0000
what I need put in gem again rastiers ...some ini?the 3/84 or whatever?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 - CanAm 66 - Interlagos - Dec 20
Post by: kinghiro on December 20, 2016, 06:57:23 PM +0000
complete mess it installs with all info from old ones. ???


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 - CanAm 66 - Interlagos - Dec 20
Post by: Iestyn Davies on December 20, 2016, 09:57:13 PM +0000
Definitely joined with the wrong Lola. Even my prib was 5+ seconds off the pace! Andretti one not Surtees one  ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 - CanAm 66 - Interlagos - Dec 20
Post by: EvilClive on December 20, 2016, 10:31:57 PM +0000
Thanks Tommie for the virtual mirror d/load.
But I realised that I have not got the "no letterbox" fix installed yet, so the mirror was hidden by the black band at the top of the screen  :-\

My first real race in the 66 Can Ams ( I have a vague recollection of trying Stardust in Can Ams, but that might have been 71's??) and a total guess at a setup. I think I need some serious practice and tweaking before I will be competitive in these beasts!!

It seems SRMZ is down ATM, does anyone have an alternative IP for the "No Letterbox" patch??


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 - CanAm 66 - Interlagos - Dec 20
Post by: Tom van Ostade on December 20, 2016, 10:41:02 PM +0000
That sucks Clive :( . I run at 98° at 16:9 (as seen in the preview screenshot included in the d/l) but thought I also tested at 78° and 4:3, without letterbox patch.

I don't have the letterbox patch for you, but if you post a screenshot or describe how much of the virtual mirror you can see, I can lower the mirror so it fits underneath the black band :) . That way you'll have things sorted for the next time. It's only a 5 minute job for me anyway :) .

Tough race, got home late from a workout, so only got the chance to do one lap in quali. It was enough for pole! The starter was hidden behind my right mirror so I had to start in F10 view, thankfully everything went well. I was able to pull a gap to Carlos, Axel and Tom behind which was big enough for me to keep my first place after I had an off mid-race. I was able to drive it home after that and collect the trophy!  :)

Grats to Axel and Tom for the podium, and Dave for a strong drive to P4 :) .

Tommie.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 - CanAm 66 - Interlagos - Dec 20
Post by: kinghiro on December 20, 2016, 11:07:49 PM +0000
Fun to be back, but I don t have as much time as I used to. I might sign up for one series.

Had a fun race and contact ewith Axel through the hole race. Altough I managed to close the gap last cpl rounds, I had no way past.
Gz Tommie and Axel.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 - CanAm 66 - Interlagos - Dec 20
Post by: Cookie on December 21, 2016, 12:11:25 AM +0000
Yes those cars are really fun, but this works Mc is a beast, hard to keep straight.
I should have taken the ChapE with whom I had practiced before ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 - CanAm 66 - Interlagos - Dec 20
Post by: Iestyn Davies on December 21, 2016, 04:54:47 AM +0000
Tommie - I need to try your workout. I did power-lifting today and drove like absolute :-X! :laugh:

Edit: I was surprised not to see you in the Chap E Axel  :o


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 - CanAm 66 - Interlagos - Dec 20
Post by: kinghiro on December 21, 2016, 05:00:20 AM +0000
Yes those cars are really fun, but this works Mc is a beast, hard to keep straight.
I should have taken the ChapE with whom I had practiced before ::)

Have you tried the Penskee one? I managed to go faster with that than the one I used . Tried right after the race. same weight and less horsepower but seemed so forgiving. smoother torque range I guess.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 - CanAm 66 - Interlagos - Dec 20
Post by: Tom van Ostade on December 21, 2016, 11:36:54 AM +0000
Tommie - I need to try your workout. I did power-lifting today and drove like absolute :-X! :laugh:

Edit: I was surprised not to see you in the Chap E Axel  :o

I feel like :-X today haha! We had a workout including 100 burpees and 30 pushups, as well as a 3 mile run :P . After that the Interlagos race of course, for good measure ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 - CanAm 66 - Interlagos - Dec 20
Post by: GregT on December 23, 2016, 12:42:34 AM +0000
if you post a screenshot or describe how much of the virtual mirror you can see, I can lower the mirror so it fits underneath the black band :) .

1280X720 , 2/3rds scale, standard POV and FOV.

(https://s30.postimg.org/j4j338sqp/gplm66_2016_12_22_18_37_45_799_23rds.jpg)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 - CanAm 66 - Interlagos - Dec 20
Post by: Tom van Ostade on December 23, 2016, 12:39:58 PM +0000
Here are some lower mirrors: http://www.gpldownloads.net/CA66/TvO_CA66_virtual_mirrors_lower.zip

Hope they work for you :) :) .


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 - CanAm 66 - Interlagos - Dec 20
Post by: Doni Yourth on December 23, 2016, 12:41:39 PM +0000
Hey, Greg!  Yea, that looks much the same as the V-mirror images I get with the '66 CanAms.  Not particularly useful.  I've been doing without the addon of late but would greatly appreciate a tuneup of same.  Tommie?  ;)

HA!  As I was ready to post, I got a snap message to say that someone has just posted.  It's Tommie with, apparently, new lower V-mirrors.  I'm anxious to try ASAP!  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 - CanAm 66 - Interlagos - Dec 20
Post by: EvilClive on December 23, 2016, 03:53:30 PM +0000
Thanks Tommie, that screenshot from Greg is exactly what I had.
So hopefully, the lower mirror will allow me to see who is about to pass me  :-\


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 - CanAm 66 - Interlagos - Dec 20
Post by: Cookie on December 23, 2016, 05:08:05 PM +0000
I use a 92° FOV and am happy as it is. 1920x1080

(https://picload.org/image/raccgrrw/bildschirmfotovom2016-12-23175.png)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 - CanAm 66 - Interlagos - Dec 20
Post by: Tom van Ostade on December 23, 2016, 07:33:40 PM +0000
I use something similar to Cookie, a 98 degree field of view for me. I'd recommend a wider FOV, but to each his own :) . The lower virtual mirrors work with the default 78 degrees anyway :).


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 - CanAm 66 - Interlagos - Dec 20
Post by: EvilClive on December 23, 2016, 08:04:40 PM +0000
I'll try the 98 degree first and if that does not work I will download the lower mirror option.............well I will when I get some time free from shopping and Christmas duties!!!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 - CanAm 66 - Interlagos - Dec 20
Post by: Tom van Ostade on December 24, 2016, 11:09:37 AM +0000
I've used a wider FOV since I switched from 4:3 to 16:9. The 16:9 aspect ratio crops the top and bottom part off from the 4:3 aspect ratio. I wanted those bits back, also because I couldn't see the mirrors anymore in the 1967 Brabham. With the wider Field Of View I have the original view as it was in the 4:3 days, plus some added bits on both sides of the screen :) .

I use 98° FOV for all mods including the original 1967 F1's, except the Sportscars and 1971 Can-Am's.

Technical babble for those so inclined:

Original GPL, and all open-wheel mods, have for each car inside the 3do a single positioner that tells the .exe both where the viewpoint is from inside the cockpit, and where to place the head of the driver in outside views. In other words, the viewpoint is an exact match with the position of the head. The Sportscars and 1971 Can-Am's have an extra positioner inside their car 3do's, which enables the cockpit viewpoint to be different from the location of the head of the driver. They have then placed the viewpoint further back whilst keeping the location of the driver's head the same. I think this was done to show more of the very nice interior of the cars on screen. However, it causes problems like floating driver arms in cockpit view, cockpit 3d structure cutoff visible in left/right views, and simply being too far back from the steering wheel to get a feel for the car. So I use the default 78° FOV for these mods.

Anyway, hope the lower virtual mirrors help for those using 78° FOV.

Happy holidays to everyone!

Tommie.

P.S. They are also at the site now: http://www.grandprixlegends.co.nf/tvo/ca66/ca66_virt_mirr.html :) .


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 - CanAm 66 - Interlagos - Dec 20
Post by: Doni Yourth on December 24, 2016, 02:39:10 PM +0000
Ripping stuff, Tommie!  :)

The new V-mirror files have worked wonders.  I typically use the 78° FOV and they work a treat at that angle.  Noting that some members are using wider views, I plan to experiment.

Thanks again, amigo!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 - CanAm 66 - Interlagos - Dec 20
Post by: maddog on December 24, 2016, 04:54:50 PM +0000
The default 78 FOV was chosen by Papyrus, because it gives a realistic perspective, the way your eye would see things on a real track. It lets you race closer to other cars, without hitting them too often. :-*  Merry Christmas all!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 - CanAm 66 - Interlagos - Dec 20
Post by: GregT on December 24, 2016, 11:02:27 PM +0000
Thanks Tommie. I've been using the no letterbox patch so I've had good mirrors from the time you first posted the virtual mirrors. I was fooling around with video and screen captures when I read this topic, so I was ready to post a picture immediately. It's good to have these too. Occasionally, I have a reason to turn off the patch.

You could say I'm stuck in a rut concerning FOV. I tried for a while with a wider FOV, but I'm so adjusted to the original setting that I kept it the same. One thing that was disconcerting using a wider FOV, smoke off my front tires would blind me at times. :lol: I should play with FOV more often. Some day I might find something I like better.