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Title: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room KTM X-Bow Cup - Raceroom Raceway Bridge - Jan 12
Post by: phspok on December 21, 2016, 06:35:25 AM +0000
(https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/phspok1/raceroomracewayKTM1.jpg)

Practice: 19:45 BST (30 mins)
Qual 2: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30 ~ 30 Mins

Cars allowed: KTM X-Bow
Track: RaceRoomRaceway Bridge Circuit
Time of Day Setting: 13:00
Weather: Dry

Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption:  Normal
Pit-stops: None required

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Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Championship Standings (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=584&theme=4)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see
cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7) especially the
rules about in-game chat messages.
(3) You will need to install Race Room Racing Experience from Steam, and have the Euro and American Track Packs for this series (And maybe another
non pack track occasionally)
(4) Please exercise caution when pitting as some tracks have a speed limit.

(5) Please follow the SROUK guidelines for using kerbs etc. Please keep 2 wheels on the track surface (kerbs do not count as track surface)
Excessive cutting of corners will seen as cheating and the results may be altered to reflect this.


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room KTM X-Bow Cup - {unknown} - Jan 12
Post by: spanner on December 21, 2016, 07:44:03 PM +0000
Ah. finally using the raceroom raceway! It is a nice track, if a bit quick. This isnt the demo config is it?


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room KTM X-Bow Cup - {unknown} - Jan 12
Post by: phspok on December 21, 2016, 11:37:05 PM +0000
Um, not sure, this is the one I liked best.


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room KTM X-Bow Cup - Raceroom Raceway Bridge - Jan 12
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 11, 2017, 09:08:34 AM +0000
It's donation time again folk's. Please give whatever you can afford.


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room KTM X-Bow Cup - Raceroom Raceway Bridge - Jan 12
Post by: Hotkeys on January 11, 2017, 05:28:21 PM +0000
I think it's a fun car to drive, but the default setup on the X-Bov was useless to me, way too lively.
I had to make an awful lot of changes to make it work.

I'm pretty close to John Passmore on the leaderboard chart, so it can't be all wrong :- ))

Stig


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room KTM X-Bow Cup - Raceroom Raceway Bridge - Jan 12
Post by: frex on January 12, 2017, 01:33:41 AM +0000
I think it's a fun car to drive, but the default setup on the X-Bov was useless to me, way too lively. I had to make an awful lot of changes to make it work.

Yep, I agree with that. Only just bought and unlocked the car tonight, so my previous trials with it were limited to the default setup only, and I hated it. Now I've played with the setup a bit and now I love this car! Should be a fun race..


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room KTM X-Bow Cup - Raceroom Raceway Bridge - Jan 12
Post by: picnic on January 12, 2017, 08:01:15 AM +0000
I had a go last night and even playing with the setup I found it pretty un-drivable. Perhaps someone could point me to a decent setup somewhere please?


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room KTM X-Bow Cup - Raceroom Raceway Bridge - Jan 12
Post by: phspok on January 12, 2017, 09:45:30 AM +0000
I don't remember what I did, but I didn't do much to make them drivable
I think a light right foot was required here over the blind brows
Actually, I will have to play with setups when I get home later, as these series
were created and tested from another location.
To me they drove a bit Porka style, heavy back end and nothing much at the front.
I probably stiffened the front, and softened the rear.


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room KTM X-Bow Cup - Raceroom Raceway Bridge - Jan 12
Post by: goldtop on January 12, 2017, 10:24:35 AM +0000
Got bored driving the KTM in AC but this model seems much more racey and lively.

Default setup seems ok although I had to make my usual steering lock adjustments (600 - 15) and shift the brake balance slightly forward to stop the back snapping around at corner entry.


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room KTM X-Bow Cup - Raceroom Raceway Bridge - Jan 12
Post by: Hotkeys on January 12, 2017, 01:41:43 PM +0000
I had a go last night and even playing with the setup I found it pretty un-drivable. Perhaps someone could point me to a decent setup somewhere please?

I would have posted a screenshot of my setup, but I'm at work now, and for some strange reason, they wont allow me to install RRE on my working-PC  ::)

What I remember is, that lowering the toe-in in front and less toe out at the rear helped a lot. I also had to lower the anti lock  setting for the Wheel.

Try loosening  the dampers and the spring settings in general too. I also changed the anti roll-bar, but I don't recall in what way.


Good luck with it

Stig


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room KTM X-Bow Cup - Raceroom Raceway Bridge - Jan 12
Post by: Hotkeys on January 12, 2017, 08:40:00 PM +0000
Argh..... had a great start and came out of turn 1 as # 2 ...... only to screw it all up in the turn 2!
Guess I couldn't handle the heat up front  ;D

I apologize for having blocked the way for some of you guys. Next race I'll make sure to get back to my usual start position at the rear of the pack.

Stig






Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room KTM X-Bow Cup - Raceroom Raceway Bridge - Jan 12
Post by: phspok on January 12, 2017, 09:15:06 PM +0000
LOL, shame you left Stig, was great fun when there was someone to race
I kept making errors while racing so Eck got past, and then had Spanner
hassling. I do like these things, I think the setups were harder here than "normal" tracks
because of the crests. Sachsenring would likely be similar.


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room KTM X-Bow Cup - Raceroom Raceway Bridge - Jan 12
Post by: Eck Simpson on January 12, 2017, 09:17:34 PM +0000
Hopefully its just track knowledge ,or lack there of, that made the difference. Otherwise, I'll be in the fight for last, every race...

Grats Tudor, John and Dieter, I was never really close to a race. Unless you count the end of the race, when you were catching up to lap me.



Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room KTM X-Bow Cup - Raceroom Raceway Bridge - Jan 12
Post by: picnic on January 12, 2017, 09:30:40 PM +0000
These things are obviously completely beyond my miserable abilities, I shall let Eck fight over last place by staying away.


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room KTM X-Bow Cup - Raceroom Raceway Bridge - Jan 12
Post by: goldtop on January 13, 2017, 09:40:26 AM +0000
These things are obviously completely beyond my miserable abilities, I shall let Eck fight over last place by staying away.

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the KTM Pete. That RR track is tricky and demands a lot of prior knowledge to get any car around quickly and consistently. I know it well because I always test cars there before I decide to buy so I've clocked up a few miles there. For instance, I was up to 4 tenths quicker in sector 1 than others because I knew I could hold 4th gear through the first chicane, which kept the car better settled at entry and carried more speed. I had a quick look and didn't see anyone else doing this in practice although towards the end of the race I believe JP starting doing this too as he began to close in. There are other areas of the track where time can be gained if you're more familiar with it.

As for the race, I had to push hard at the start to get a safe gap and then concentrate very hard to keep it together. Towards the end I was just trying to pace myself to the flag without making any mistakes which probably allowed JP to get a bit too close as he found his pace.


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room KTM X-Bow Cup - Raceroom Raceway Bridge - Jan 12
Post by: picnic on January 13, 2017, 10:08:53 AM +0000
But you have talent GT. I often ran 4th through the first chicane last night, it was more stable, but it didn't make me any quicker.


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room KTM X-Bow Cup - Raceroom Raceway Bridge - Jan 12
Post by: frex on January 13, 2017, 01:31:18 PM +0000
Key to making these drivable for me was sorting out the braking, as either the fronts would lock up or the rear would come round on corner entry. Seemed to be a narrow window for the brake balance to work, and getting that right plus the brake pressure helped a lot. Think I also stiffened rear rebound dampers, and softened rear arb and springs. Still had to modulate the brake on entry, and feather the throttle over the crests, but much more manageable (and fun!). If I can drive them you should have no problems at all Pete!

Good race early on, chasing GT and John; then my usual spin when I took too much kerb, which dropped me further behind. Congrats GT and John.

Unfortunately I may not make the next few races as I've broken my wrist this morning and been told no guitar, cycling or driving for 6 weeks, damnit..! I may try and experiment with auto gears, but not sure how that will work out. Shame as I think we have the makings of a good season's racing here and didn't want to miss out!



Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room KTM X-Bow Cup - Raceroom Raceway Bridge - Jan 12
Post by: picnic on January 13, 2017, 02:45:17 PM +0000
ouch - hope the wrist mends quickly


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room KTM X-Bow Cup - Raceroom Raceway Bridge - Jan 12
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 13, 2017, 02:51:58 PM +0000
Hope it's not your "useful" wrist  ;)

Get well soon mate


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room KTM X-Bow Cup - Raceroom Raceway Bridge - Jan 12
Post by: goldtop on January 13, 2017, 04:06:26 PM +0000
Sorry to hear about your wrist Dieter, hope it mends well and soon. BTW, sounds like you have exactly the same interests as I do.....always wondered why so many simracers also play guitar.


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room KTM X-Bow Cup - Raceroom Raceway Bridge - Jan 12
Post by: phspok on January 14, 2017, 12:08:50 PM +0000
Agree with the comments about the brakes, I ended up settling for 50/50, and just accepted
some front locking. The track may not have been ideal as the 1st event, Tudor is right
the crests take some learning.  I have a few guitars, and have played in a few bands from
prog rock to clubby pop outfits over the years. I am now in the words of as young boy I know
"Ex rock star, famous racing driver"  ;D and I have a tee shirt to prove it  ::)
here's one of the more embarrasing clips from the mid 90's. I am the idiot withthe purple headband
I am also. through the sequencer (programmed) playing the drums, bass, lights, and maybe some background pads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pY8xX4MLk0



Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room KTM X-Bow Cup - Raceroom Raceway Bridge - Jan 12
Post by: Hotkeys on January 14, 2017, 01:28:08 PM +0000
That's old Hotkeys on the Fender Precision way back in 72 :- ))

(https://s24.postimg.org/m6h4idlat/After_Eight_1972.jpg)


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room KTM X-Bow Cup - Raceroom Raceway Bridge - Jan 12
Post by: Eck Simpson on January 14, 2017, 03:59:44 PM +0000
I am the idiot withthe purple headband

The headband's the least of your worries, fechin' shell suits?. Surprised you can hear anything, over that constant rustling...


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room KTM X-Bow Cup - Raceroom Raceway Bridge - Jan 12
Post by: phspok on January 14, 2017, 05:27:20 PM +0000
Lookin cool Mr Stig  8)
Shell suits were all the rage in Scouseland back then  :D