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Title: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room Formula Juniors - Paul Ricard - Jan 15
Post by: goldtop on December 22, 2016, 01:36:17 PM +0000
(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p195/goldytops60/R3E%20Formula%20RaceRoom%20Junior_zpshptkkyqs.jpg)

THIS IS A NON-CHAMPIONSHIP TEST/FUN RACE

Practice: 20:00 BST (30 mins)
Qual: 20:30 (15 mins)
Race 1: 20:45 ~ 20 Mins
Race 2: 20 Mins Reverse grid (first 6 places) taken from results of Race 1

Cars allowed: Formula Raceroom Junior
Track: Circuit Paul Ricard Solution 1C V2
Time of Day Setting: Afternoon

Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption:  Normal
Pit-stops: None required

Server: Simracing.org.uk
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see
cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7) especially the
rules about in-game chat messages.
(3) You will need to install Race Room Racing Experience from Steam, and have the Euro and American Track Packs for this series (And maybe another
non pack track occasionally)
(4) Please exercise caution when pitting as some tracks have a speed limit.

(5) Please follow the SROUK guidelines for using kerbs etc. Please keep 2 wheels on the track surface (kerbs do not count as track surface)
Excessive cutting of corners will seen as cheating and the results may be altered to reflect this.

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=581)


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room Formula Juniors - Paul Ricard - Jan 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 11, 2017, 09:08:43 AM +0000
It's donation time again folk's. Please give whatever you can afford.


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room Formula Juniors - Paul Ricard - Jan 15
Post by: goldtop on January 13, 2017, 09:54:40 AM +0000
This will be our first event using the 2 race format with reverse grid in RR so lets hope all goes smoothly.

I've set the server up and the settings look correct but maybe if someone could double check to make sure I've not missed anything. Practice and qualifying will be usual format for Race 1. Race 2 will have the first 6 positions from the result of Race 1 reversed which should mix things up nicely  :devil:

Both races will be standing start.

Ricard probably isn't the best track for these cars but at least it should give some slip streaming on the straights......just make sure to spot your braking points as those chicanes tend to drag you in.


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room Formula Juniors - Paul Ricard - Jan 15
Post by: Hotkeys on January 14, 2017, 01:44:05 PM +0000
Love the car and the race format, but this track is ........ yak .... and very hard to learn with only two dimension because of the layout. It's a long track, it's flat, it has very few buildings and all those blue stripes makes everything more confusing IMO.

Stig




Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room Formula Juniors - Paul Ricard - Jan 15
Post by: Anty on January 14, 2017, 02:05:05 PM +0000
Probably going to give this series or DTM a bash. But let me see. I like this because of the reverse grids


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room Formula Juniors - Paul Ricard - Jan 15
Post by: smiffy on January 15, 2017, 02:30:47 PM +0000
hey guys, would like to race with you on Sundays and Thursdays if that's cool. name on race room is paul smith


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room Formula Juniors - Paul Ricard - Jan 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 15, 2017, 02:40:26 PM +0000
Welcome Paul, Please dive in. I'm sure the others will make you feel at home here.


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room Formula Juniors - Paul Ricard - Jan 15
Post by: phspok on January 15, 2017, 05:27:10 PM +0000
Absolutely. Come along whenever you can  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room Formula Juniors - Paul Ricard - Jan 15
Post by: goldtop on January 15, 2017, 09:46:52 PM +0000
As usual these lower powered cars produce some great close racing and the reverse grid for Race 2 certainly spiced things up.....far too much excitement for a Sunday evening  :)

All seemed to run smoothly transitioning from Race 1 to Race 2 and the reverse grid seemed to set according to plan.

Shame we had a low turnout and that some dropped out but good to see another quality racer on the grid....well done Paul  8)



Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room Formula Juniors - Paul Ricard - Jan 15
Post by: phspok on January 15, 2017, 10:41:06 PM +0000
It has only produced one results file. Not sure if it is the 1st or second race?
I had to change it to PaulRicard A1 to get the system to accept the track.


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room Formula Juniors - Paul Ricard - Jan 15
Post by: goldtop on January 15, 2017, 10:51:38 PM +0000
It has only produced one results file. Not sure if it is the 1st or second race?
I had to change it to PaulRicard A1 to get the system to accept the track.

That doesn't sound good  :(

The results you posted seem correct for Race 1. Not sure why the track caused a problem as this version has been added to the roster by Dave.

I wonder if it's a problem with the game generating the data for Race 2 or our system not recognising it  :-\ Shall I raise the question at S3 forums?


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room Formula Juniors - Paul Ricard - Jan 15
Post by: phspok on January 16, 2017, 02:40:46 PM +0000
It looks like the game saves results from all sessions, but bothsessions are in one file:
e.g. First sessions:
Sessions><MultiplayerRaceSession><Players><MultiplayerRacePlayer><BestLapTime>139755</BestLapTime><Car>Formula RaceRoom Junior</Car><FinishStatus>None</FinishStatus><FullName>Tudor Morris</FullName><Position>1</Position><RaceSessionLaps/><TotalTime>0</TotalTime><Username>goldtop</Username></MultiplayerRacePlayer>

Second session:
<Type>Race</Type></MultiplayerRaceSession><MultiplayerRaceSession><Players><MultiplayerRacePlayer><BestLapTime>140698</BestLapTime><Car>Formula RaceRoom Junior</Car><FinishStatus>None</FinishStatus><FullName>Tudor Morris</FullName><Position>1</Position><RaceSessionLaps>

We would need Dave to help work out how we can input this info.
It doesn't look obvious (to me) exactly where to cut the file to split it into two races.


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room Formula Juniors - Paul Ricard - Jan 15
Post by: smiffy on January 16, 2017, 05:46:47 PM +0000
thanks, enjoyed learning a new car and track. was lacking in race pace though so was lonely race for most part. some fast guys on track so should be some good racing to come. see you on Thursday


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room Formula Juniors - Paul Ricard - Jan 15
Post by: goldtop on January 16, 2017, 06:22:20 PM +0000
I've pm'd Dave to see if anything can be done.


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room Formula Juniors - Paul Ricard - Jan 15
Post by: picnic on January 16, 2017, 07:01:13 PM +0000
Sorry I missed last night, was out. However my PB of a 2:22 probably meant I would having been struggling around waiting to be lapped again as I bet I can't do consistent PBs to have kept up.


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room Formula Juniors - Paul Ricard - Jan 15
Post by: spanner on January 16, 2017, 07:10:07 PM +0000
That was not a nice track to to start with these cars. Thought you were going for shorter tracks and assumed it was the short version! Going down the back straight towards the chicane was err... interesting. Think i onlt did one timed lap in the 30min practise! Soft springs, hard springs, hard soft dampers, ride height, think i went through the wole extreme. Switching to an external view and you can see the car getting airborne. Ended up going with dampers maxed out for qually whch i think helped and tried to reduce the front bias as i was locking up every time.

Made an awful start, assumed half throttle would be ok! Then seemed ot go round Eck into the first corner but shame he got discod. Seemed to cath up to Smiffy who didnt seem t fight too hard then was just monitoring the gap to GT until he fell off and let me by and then had a good few laps swapping places alot, couldnt quite hold on to first tho.

Hmm.. not sure what happened in each now.  
 
Both seemed to end up hassling GT, wouldnt have thought it tbh based on pace!



Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room Formula Juniors - Paul Ricard - Jan 15
Post by: SRW on January 16, 2017, 10:12:19 PM +0000
I had problems with my Logitech profiler not recognising my G27 (I had steering and pedals, but no force feedback), by the time I had deleted the driver and re installed it qualifying had finished and it was too late to log in.


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room Formula Juniors - Paul Ricard - Jan 15
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 17, 2017, 06:25:31 PM +0000
We would need Dave to help work out how we can input this info.
It doesn't look obvious (to me) exactly where to cut the file to split it into two races.

Where's the file? Nobody uploads the RRE ones to the replay site and it's not very obvious where on the server I can get them from.


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room Formula Juniors - Paul Ricard - Jan 15
Post by: phspok on January 17, 2017, 06:34:49 PM +0000
I think Pete might have configured it to save them locally, but all the files we have ever had are
available in the other tab of the opera browser, which is my ftp server. The event server page is
configured to send them to that site.
This file is 201701150936.xml



Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room Formula Juniors - Paul Ricard - Jan 15
Post by: goldtop on January 21, 2017, 08:33:29 PM +0000
Is it likely that this results problem can be resolved? If not I'll need to rethink the Formula Jr series.



Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room Formula Juniors - Paul Ricard - Jan 15
Post by: phspok on January 22, 2017, 12:23:12 PM +0000
Well, when we have done multi races before with P&G, GTL. We run them as two events, as in we restart the server
for the 2nd event. Here we are trying to let R3E itself do a double race in the same server event.

Perhaps you could restart the server for the 2nd race as we do in other sims? then we get two individual files
and I can enter them into LM2 as normal?

Just a thought.

Tony is a master of the double race format, I have done it in the past, but I need to think about it every time  ::)



Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room Formula Juniors - Paul Ricard - Jan 15
Post by: goldtop on January 22, 2017, 02:37:01 PM +0000
Well, when we have done multi races before with P&G, GTL. We run them as two events, as in we restart the server
for the 2nd event. Here we are trying to let R3E itself do a double race in the same server event.

Perhaps you could restart the server for the 2nd race as we do in other sims? then we get two individual files
and I can enter them into LM2 as normal?

Just a thought.

Tony is a master of the double race format, I have done it in the past, but I need to think about it every time  ::)



Only problem with that is the reverse grid for race 2 which is what makes it such a fun series imo. We could switch to a longer single race but will need a pitstop because the tyres won't last, again not so much fun  :-\


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room Formula Juniors - Paul Ricard - Jan 15
Post by: phspok on January 22, 2017, 04:32:54 PM +0000
We've done reverse grids before in things. BUt it might have needed a manual edit to the grid slots
Not sure how we did that.


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room Formula Juniors - Paul Ricard - Jan 15
Post by: spanner on January 22, 2017, 06:30:13 PM +0000
Are the results not seperated in that file? Could you not just copy and paste race 2 into a new file?


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room Formula Juniors - Paul Ricard - Jan 15
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on February 01, 2017, 12:07:58 PM +0000
Are the results not seperated in that file? Could you not just copy and paste race 2 into a new file?

No need - I've updated the importer to be able to pick from the two results. Please take a look and let me know if anything looks wrong.

The only thing it can't currently do is set the starting positions correctly. If you reverse the top 9 you can hijack the old Race '07 "set starting positions from" after importing the second race. Otherwise, you'll need to set the starting positions by hand.


Title: Re: RRE Season 4 (2017) Race Room Formula Juniors - Paul Ricard - Jan 15
Post by: goldtop on February 01, 2017, 08:08:19 PM +0000
Thanks for doing that Dave.

From memory  :wheelchair: those race results seem to have the finishing positions correct which is really all we need (or is it?). The game itself sets the starting positions for race 2 from results of race 1 and there is a setting on the server to determine how many places are reversed.