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As many on here do not generally chat in the various AC threads, please give me some idea where the majority of you would like to race in the first series of the new year. I like all of the above so I am happy to organise any but I want the best grid turnouts so your vote is important.
You can elaborate below too.

Ta Muchly  :)

my vote went for Porsche supercup and GT3. I love modern GT's and touring cars.

.....Would be good to include some of the British GT tracks to the GT3 series

Keep up the good work MJ, it is appreciated

I'll race anything - But as I'll probably leave the country before the first series is over I'd rather you don't jump straight back into the GT3's so I can actually drive some new stuff!
Preferences are ticked  :)

I don't really mind out of those options, but several people said there will be new GT3's coming quite soon, so the question is, when do you want that series?

The Porsche Cup is popular, I haven't tried any PP3 car yet, so don't know.

Group C could be thrilling, but also limit the drivers who will like it.

Track day cars are great for close racing, but terrible to find a group of competitive cars that mix.

I voted Porsche Supercup and would then like GT3 when the new cars arrive.

As for track day races, I think these should always be one off fun filler races between championship and nothing too series. I'm happy to keep testing to find cars that match.

Hmm as per usual...threads had 50 views but only 7 votes assuming you all made two choices  :helpsmilie:
lol don't make it easy for me do you?  ;D

Fwiw I voted Porsche cup and group C  :)

I didn't vote, as I don't really care with these choices.

Hi all. The 911 cup looks like a good and close series. Maybe to use some championship ballast? But instead of the grinding out the usual tracks, how about using some Aussie tracks for a change? (been watching the Aussie Supercup series  :angel:) We have got Eastern Creek, Adelaide, Barbagallo, Bathurst and i believe there is another floating around.
Two rounds doing double sprint race and two single heat longer races. And we could include 2x fuel use to stimulate pit stops. just my 2 cents.

Oh and of course Group C's. Then start with the GT3 series (british tracks please ;))

group C's work well on the american tracks like Sebring, Laguna Seca, Road America, Road Atlanta etc (obviously lemans would have to be dropped in also :) )

does that mean you don't like any of them or do you mean you will race any of them happily? Should still put your favoured choice In the poll otherwise I am just spitting in the wind  :P

Re Bathurst, I like that track but wasn't aware there is a good mod version of it?

Porsche cup is leading the charge so far.  :) and as I said earlier, gt3 will happen, this was more about what to start the new year with whilst lots of cool new content to play with.

The modded version of Bathurst is pretty good. Raced it twice over at Core and  there weren't any complains.

Porsche cup definitely seems the best choice, might add some new faces on here aswell as I remember reading over at the AC forum about people asking if there were leagues racing these things ( since public races mostly suck  ;D

I also voted for the GT3's (especially since 1.11, they all feel abit different (better) now), but I wouldn't mind a group C series aswell someday, haven't yet gave them enough attention  8)

yeah I agree about it probably attracting more racers over at Kunos. I intend to stick an add there once I know what we are going for.

I hope you lot aren't quicker than the AI in the cup cars, I keep getting my butt handed to me at both Zandvoort and Nurburg Sprint by them  :-[  Tried a few arb combinations but I cant increase my pace much other than tail end Charlie in the AI Porsche train.  ???
Think my pb's were 1:42.0 at zand and 1:28.7 at Nurb GT sprint, both with about 25L fuel in.

Edit new pb at Zandvoort by 1 sec!   :)

Any of them is fine by me, but I won't vote as I probably can't make some of the races, so don't wanna tip the balance to one side.

I thought this was an intriguing prospect. So, I looked in my track folder. I have Adelaide, Barbagallo, Bathurst, Eastern Creek, Oran Park (doesn't exist anymore, in the real world), Phillip Island, Sandown, Surfers Paradise (not the most recent layout), Symmons Plains and Wakefield Park from Aus. And from NZ, Highlands Motorsport Park (a relatively new venue, holds a round of the GT champs), Manfield Autocourse, Pukekohe Park, Ruapuna Park, Taupo MP and Teretonga. They're probably not all upto close scrutiny but hopefully, you could construct a reasonable championship from that selection. Incidentally, I didn't use either vote for the cup cars... lol.

Cool. Did not know about all those tracks exept the first 4. Can you give me a pointer to where to find the rest of those tracks Eck?

http://f1classic.your-talk.com/t16883-list-of-all-tracks-with-links-update-11-dec16

This is a fairly comprehensive track list. If you're not a member, I don't think you'll get to see them.. unfortunately.

I spent half of yesterday racing the 917's and then 962's around Spa...just awesome. I could just watch them in replays for ages. The sounds and looks are staggering.   :drool: especially after I spent an hour downloading all the famous liveries from back in the day  8)

The 962 is simply a pure race car, it feels sublime to race it around with superb handling and power. I'm in love  :wub:

Happy New Year guys  :sorcerer: here's to lots of great racing in 2017  8)

I just tried PP3 for the first time. Tried as in, drove 1 lap at Mugello with 3 of the cars  :P. The only one I did 3 laps with, was the 919, which is a great rush to drive. So that would get my top vote for 2017, but somebody forgot to put that as an option  ;)

because unfortunately only you handful of aliens will master it whilst the rest of us mortals fair in various degrees of performance ending up with a sucky race with low attendance  :P  I could only see this car working in a multi-class event like RRL ran recently whereby the few aliens drove it whilst lapping the gt field.

(http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y444/MJ_p911/PCCPreview_zpsxsyrdy40.jpg) (http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/MJ_p911/media/PCCPreview_zpsxsyrdy40.jpg.html)

 :drool:

Supercup skin pack
http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/911-gt3-supercup-2016-skin-pack.13140/ (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/911-gt3-supercup-2016-skin-pack.13140/)
With this pack and the stock skins we get something like 38 skins to choose from  :)

Points system:-

Position / Points
1st  22pts
2nd 18
3rd  16
4th  14
5th  12
6th  10
7th  9
8th  8
9th  7
10th 6
11th 5
12th 4
13th 3
14th 2
15th 1

Pole 1pt (but not sure if we can implement this? - anyone know?)

Sign up below please if you want to attend. I will be using the Supercup skin pack in above post, so if you want a skin assigned put that next to your name.

MJ (skin #2 Mueller)
JR stock #929
Spanner - tbc
Nfsw - #5
Linus - #9
FMG - #11

Nice, thanks MJ. Will download the skins later.

I suggest a slightly bigger gap between 1st and 2nd, very lineair points system results in easily getting tied in points.

I'd like the stock #929.

Points are from the actual Supercup series Jeff. Nothing to stop me increasing 1st to 22pts I guess to make someone really push for it instead of settling for 2nd.

I'm in. Really looking forward to this. Will confirm what skin later.

I'm in as well with the #5 Robert Lukas skin  ;)

Mark, please can I have car no.9 please from the skin pack. It's the grey and red Porka :)

No. 11 please.
I like subtle paint schemes..  ;D

I'll need to start thinking about a follow on series before I know it as the weeks are already flying by. Group C and GT3 were both on 2nd highest votes. My personal choice would be Group C but relies on if we get the Mazda from Kunos into the mix to give us 3 cars to choose from. That would be a spectacular series. :o  8)  Also nice knowing we have a good fleet of GT3 cars to choose from when we get going with that series again, just wish Kunos would release a proper Bentley and Aston martin GT3 car.

Both those series only when the new cars get released IMO.

Have they said when the new BMW and Audi are released?

BMW was said to be released early 2017 so knowing kunos it will probably released late June :D

Audi i dont know, but there is a nice looking, newly released mod of it available.. havent driven it to compare its performance tho :/
can anybody clarify if it is BOPed to the other GT3 cars?

Both GT3 cars will probably come with the Laguna Seca DLC, which is postponed to Q2 2017

After the Porsche championship, can we run a couple of the one off track day races before we jump into another championship.  It's always good to have a few fun races between championships before starting a new one.

Fun race; something like the 919's ?  :angel:

I was also watching an old Top Gear when they took the Ferrari, Porsche and Mercedes around America and stopped at Virginia Raceway. Just tried the same in AC with the 458, 911 GT3 and AMG Merc and it was a total hoot so that would be one of my suggestions. 

So, now we have timed races in multilayer,  can we do some timed multiclass endurance races with pitstops please?? My suggestion is,

Mixed class: Porsche 911 GT3 Cup and Porsche Cayman GT4 Cup (Possibly include Maserati GT4 and Lotus 2-11 GT4 to mix it up even more)
Rounds: 4 x 1 hour events.
Circuits: Spa, The Ring, Silverstone, Monza (open to discussion)
Rules: Each driver must drive two rounds in the GT4 car and two rounds in the GT3 Cup car. Driver to choose which car for each round.
Pitstops: Yes (Multiple if possible to set)

What we think, could be fun using these cars as we seem to all like them. Running multiclass as well could be fun especially when the aliens will have to do two rounds in the GT4 cars. Could be some close racing but also a tight championship.

I'm game for some endurance racing. We do need to test the timed races and the start procedures between the current Porsche Cup series and whatever Mark has lined up next.

As long as we start at a similar time to current then 1 hour enduros are fine by me  :)

Remember we also have a fairly good selection of road cars we can campaign at Sugo as well  ;)
And my testing is still suggesting that the GT40 and 908 are fairly close to one another in lap times  8)

I dont mind much which type of car it ends up as, aslong it has alot of horses hidden under the hood  ;D

Though some classic race cars sounds good for it. The 962's, maybe the 917 aswell. The moby dick. Shame the 787b isn't out yet.

Might also include the new highlands long version.
917 at that track  :o

Sounds good to me. Although imo it would be better to stick to one car for all rounds. (and maybe limit the amount of cars from one class to ensure that both classes are roughly the same size)

I think we should run some classic cars also but for the endurance I would suggest using a car that we are all fairly comfortable with to keep numbers up and so people don't drop out from frustration.

I did wonder about maybe suggesting people declare the choice of car in the thread for each round so drivers can mix and match with other drivers. The thing I like about running the mix class is not only will it add a fun element into each round, it can also spice things up. For example, if the first round, the really quick drivers take the slower GT4 cars and then some of the mid pack drivers take the faster 911 GT3 car,  you could at the end of round one have people who wouldn't normally be getting wins and podiums leading the championship. Everything would then be turned on its head for round 2 as drivers decide do they pick the faster car again to maintain the championship lead or save the faster car for a track they feel happier at. Likewise, they may see the faster drivers take the GT3 car so will not risk it and try and maximise points in a later round when the faster drivers take the GT4 car again. On top of that, you have the element of bad luck and driver errors which could really hurt your championship or help it. You really wouldn't know where you stood in the Championship until the end but every position could be vital.

I've done something similar where we ran 4 stints at Le Mans in GT Legends with two classes and it was great fun.

That actually sounds pretty interesting that way  :P

Ah, ok, that makes sense. Thought that points will be rewarded for each class, but if there'll be just points for the overall classification then your suggestion is really interesting.

Yes, just points for overall classification so if you come first in a GT3 car or first in a GT4 car, you still get the same points. So the points you score in the GT3 and GT4 would be combined so it's vital that you score well in both cars as all the other drivers around you could also be scoring highly. What I really like about it though is that it gives all drivers the opportunity to score winsurance and podiums when the fast guys are in the slower GT4 cars. It might also balance it out, for example, if Maikel is in the GT4 and I'm in the GT3 car, then with him being the faster drivers but me being in the faster car, it might make for some interesting races.

I'll probably be mr negative again, but this doesn't sound good in my opinion.

I think you should only do multiclass racing when the grid is 30+, or else you will end up with few to battle with and boring races.

When I think of multiclass racing, i think of prototypes and GT cars, not GT4 and Cup cars. I'd rather see 919 and GT3 field, or maybe 962 with some old car of that era.

1 Hour race isn't endurace, atleats 1,5 hours I think.

Picking a car for a track won't work, as there is a big chance everybody will pick the same class for a track, which will end up being single class racing, or very lobsided. If your direct competition picks a different class for each event, you can have very boring races.

I will second this.

multiclass only works with a large grid and balanced class sizes.

my biggest issue with this proposal though is, that the gt3 cup and gt4 cars are barely different in pace, so there is no real reason to run those classes.

gt3 class and gt4 class would even be too similar. Im all for multiclass (PGT anyone? wink wink) but would prefer larger pace differences between the classes... prototypes and gt or something

Maybe not exactly multiclass but having 2 different cars were the faster drivers pick the slower ones might make for some fun and close racing. Something like the 2 different 962, only slight difference between those.


Off topic: just read that over at Core Erik was having a similiar disco problem when switching from practise too quali. So it might not be the servers problem after all.

The grid size is irrelevant if you select the correct tracks. 5 GT3 and 5 GT4 on something like Brands Indy would still be incredibly busy over an hour and that's only 10 cars. However I take your point and maybe the tracks need reviewing. I did say open to discussion in my opening post.

I picked the 911 GT3 Cup and GT4 cars as they are familiar have attracted popular size grids. So car choice was playing it safe to suit everyone. I for one have no interest in the 919 or 962 but then I am only one person and not the majority.

Most can't commit to long races. My choice would be longer than 1.5 hours but it's just not possible for some.

If most pick the same class then you will get a good spec race like we have already but then those who pick different will have the advantage. That's the fun of it. I guess if the races are declared then you could say you also have to declare your car in advance for the entire championship so some adjustment could be done.

There's about 5 second or so difference at Spa I think between classes. That's the fun though of them being close as faster drivers in slower cars will be racing the slower drivers with the faster cars and vica versa. Plus drivers who might not get wins or podiums run the chance of getting them when in the faster car. If you did run big differences in cars then yes the pack would get divided and be very boring so it's important to have them fairly close time wise still.

Haha welcome to my world of trying to please everybody  ;D

Sounds like you have volunteered to provide some interim racing between official seasons, well done, I could go with a break as work is mental at the moment.

Haha I don't envy what you do but I will say you do a fantastic job.

More than happy to suggest ideas between the proper racing. I think we need to run some classic races for sure as everyone is screaming for this and I think it was the 2nd most popular choice in the poll.

How about 962 lt and st with maybe some others cars that are competitive and the gt40 with others?

I'm game :)

Like the suggested GT40 vs Porsche 908? Endurance anyone?
I think the group C deserve a proper championship though...

Perhaps some Lotus 49 @Salzburgring or
...Ferrari 312T vs Lotus 72D...

Supra Mk IV TA vs Ruf yellowbird vs M3 e30 gr.A @ Sugo?

GT40 and 908 Endurance sounds like fun. Are we talking about a one off endurance race? Any other cars we can add to the mix?

Ford and Porsche arent balanced properly though.

No, But they're close - The Ford is much harder to drive but I am normally within a second when testing with the same fuel load at various tracks.
Pick a couple of faster tracks Vs twistier and then make everyone stick with there chosen car and it'll balance out as far as points are concerned

I just tried the Lotus 98T at Brands, that thing is surprisingly easy to drive but still thrilling.

I ran that combo before Jeff, it was awesome. I love the old f1 cars in AC  8)

Me too   ;D

If we're doing Oldschool F1, can we do it at Suzuka please?  ;D

https://youtu.be/UxMeutsdF30 (https://youtu.be/UxMeutsdF30)

Need the track first  ;)

It's on that Russian site we got the trucks from - I can look later tonight and get you the link if you haven't found it by then

http://assettocorsa.club/mods/tracks/suzuka-international-circuit.html#en

Not sure how good it is...or how legal.

It's good offline as I've had it for some time, great in the 787  ;) - can't comment on it's on-line abilities or legalities though.

I have no clue if its the same version, but this is what we use at ACRL for the Multiclass Series and i've done quite a few of laps on it already..

its a very nice version, pretty detailed and i have not encountered any bugs so far.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-svJ61vjJWILXdlWUF0djdaWm8/view

So, we have one more race left in the Porsche 911 GT3 Cup championship. Are we then going to run some fun, track day, other races before the new championship starts? If so, may I suggest the following,

Mazda MX5 Cup at somewhere tight and twisty, possibly Zandvoort or Magoine???

My dream is monocup on ks_porsche_911_gt3_rs
This car is just amazing, easy to setup and very competitsble!  ;D 

What's monocup? Are you thinking as a spec race? We ran that car I with some other cars in some fun track day races before the current championship so we can do that again if everyone is interested. I think it was at Imola and it was an amazing race.

MonoCup- it's the same as championship about 7-10 rounds in laserscans or high quality mod  tracks using only one car . In that case - ks_porsche_911_gt3_rs   :)
Sorry for my english

The plan is to have a few weeks fun races until I run a new championship series.
So feel free to put your choices up. Save your mx5's for a week I'm not about  ;)
I have zero interest in sim racing slow cars.

You do get that the racing is almost always closer in slower cars no?  ;)
I'd love a race against a grid of the oldskool Abarths  ;D

Yes, this is exactly my thoughts and why I would suggest a short, tight twisty track. Not sure if its possible but something like Brands Indy, 10 min qualify followed by a 20 min race 1 followed by 20 min race 2 with reverse grid based on finishing position of race 1. Not sure if AC can do something like that but it would be close racing throughout and a hoot.

As for the next championship, I don't mind doing the Porsche 911 GT3 Cup cars again as they were great fun and very popular and the racing was very good. Same format but just change some of the tracks. Maybe include Mugello, Brands Hatch GP, Interlagos, Paul Ricard, Suzuka, Monaco, Silverstone GP, Spa, Barcelona, Red Bull Ring, and the new Laguna Seca.

No I think the next series will be something different, everyone will get bored of them. Certainly will create another series of them in the future though, using different tracks   :)

Still not sold on slow cars  :( I'm away half of April, you can have a shopping trolley challenge then  ;D

I don't mind a MX5 spec race, but maybe not directly after our 911 cup spec series.
There have been a number of good car and track suggestions mentioned in the pages before also.

A Lotus 79T race @ Donington Park springs to my mind.. :)