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Title: UKGPL Season 31 Fun - 69x - Nürburgring reverse - Jan 17
Post by: Cookie on January 17, 2017, 04:04:10 PM +0000
Season 31 - 69x - Fun Race – Grubrun (= Nürburgring reverse)

The S31 Specials Series Trophy is running all Papy tracks in reverse direction!

To test that it works ok we will make a funrace...
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I uploaded the tracks here (https://www.sendspace.com/file/p4hs1z)!

Just put the track folders in ..GPLtracks
and
the RVseason.ini in ..GPLseasons
then
Start GPL 69x mod via GEM+  choose RVseason
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The event is unmoderated – but the usual high standards are expected.
 
Unlimited Shift R is allowed & there are no Stop & Go’s.


Race listiGOR
ServerUKGPL_8
IP addresslook at IGOR -> headline in #UKGPL chat
Date17-01-2017
TrackGrubrun (https://www.sendspace.com/file/p4hs1z)
Mod69x with 60fpsV1
Damage INT long
Race timeRace starts at 21:30 UK time
Qualifying 20:45 UK time ~45 minutes
Race length4 laps
Replayget here (https://www.sendspace.com/file/lm8ij5)


Please restrict chat to emergency messages only including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

GLA and FUN

(https://picload.org/image/rorpcrli/nurb_rev.jpg)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 Fun - 69x - Nürburgring reverse - Jan 17
Post by: Cookie on January 17, 2017, 04:20:53 PM +0000
IP  95.114.119.189

Server is running for the race now, everybody welcome!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 Fun - 69x - Nürburgring reverse - Jan 17
Post by: Walter Conn on January 18, 2017, 04:24:13 AM +0000
I look forward to the day when I know the ring forward and backwards.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 Fun - 69x - Nürburgring reverse - Jan 17
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on January 18, 2017, 07:43:07 AM +0000
My respect to anyone crazy enough to drive the ring backwards. I have driven a bit in reverse when I span & had no idea where I was going or the correct direction of travel until I saw a car coming towards me.
Stunning drive by Andreas.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 Fun - 69x - Nürburgring reverse - Jan 17
Post by: EvilClive on January 18, 2017, 09:26:15 AM +0000
My first full laps of "The Ring Reversed" last night and I think I knew which corners were coming next. For me it was more about the distances between the corners and the different radii through the corners.

In the conventional direction, I am comfortable with many of the major corners and subconsciously know which ones can be entered quite quickly planning to scrub off speed to cope with where the corners tighten. What surprised me most was how long some corners were!! In the reverse direction, one or two corners appeared to be twice as long as I remembered them and others that I would take flat out I had to treat with much more respect. Also, the way that crests and cambers affect various corners was fun too.

I was enjoying the BRM, as a big beast to muscle around this track and a chose a setup from my archives ( Amaroo!! but I have no idea why??!!). Unfortunately ( like one or two others it seems ) for some reason, my graphics for GPL are not fun. I had to turn Prib off to get the frame rate above 30FPS and even then was lucky to see 50FPS when driving alone. I had the detail down to 75%, turned off smoke,dust etc. In fact I used every trick that I knew to reduce the graphics load. Eventually I just had to quit before I made myself ill.

It is difficult to describe what I was experiencing but it was inducing a feeling like motion sickness. The graphics were not at all smooth, almost like a fast moving series of still photos.
I wonder if something has changed with my graphic card settings? Also I looked on GEM afterwards to see what the settings were.
I noticed that some setting were now zero  (MIP size, Lod Bias, Toss Mips etc) I am ( almost) sure that these used to have something other than a "zero" value, but it is a long time since I have looked at these things.

Does anyone have a basic set of parameters for the GEM settings on Rasterizers, Graphics etc so that I can check my settings.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 Fun - 69x - Nürburgring reverse - Jan 17
Post by: AnGex on January 18, 2017, 10:01:15 AM +0000
...
Stunning drive by Andreas.

Thanks Mate. Also was my first trying of the Ring in Reverse. It is indeed like some corners are faster but others are sure slower. Not easy to adapt. May someone know about Sabine Schmitz, aka "Königin der Nordschleife". She tryed that reversed direction in Reallife the other day and said it about the same: A new good track to learn!

Also my Congratulation to Dean for the fastest lap!

Seems that I can´t get the replay?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 Fun - 69x - Nürburgring reverse - Jan 17
Post by: Rainier on January 18, 2017, 10:23:29 AM +0000
I don't know why but I couldn't connect to the server using 60fpsv1 after several tries.
It seems I can only connect with 60fpsv2new.

I had the same issue with mod66 using 36fps.

Of course, I deactivate the other options in GEM+ but it doesn't work.

Any idea ?

Should I desinstall all options in GEM/Mods/options and reinstall them ? 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 Fun - 69x - Nürburgring reverse - Jan 17
Post by: Cookie on January 18, 2017, 12:03:22 PM +0000
Clive the 69x is still the most demanding mod for the hardware, it uses lots of RAM and the cars are very detailed.
Maybe you should do what I proposed in the Aznom thread to Lalethor and look at the plot of the Open Hardware Monitor...  

David, can you run 69x in single race mode with RVtracks and 60fpsV1?
The other GEM+ options do not disturb your connection as long you chose the right 60fps patch ;)

Andreas the rpy is just uploading...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 Fun - 69x - Nürburgring reverse - Jan 17
Post by: AnGex on January 18, 2017, 12:08:47 PM +0000
...(MIP size, Lod Bias, Toss Mips etc) I am ( almost) sure that these used to have something other than a "zero" value, but it is a long time since I have looked at these things.

Does anyone have a basic set of parameters for the GEM settings on Rasterizers, Graphics etc so that I can check my settings.

Have this settings: MIP size 256, Lod Bias -75, Toss Mips 0, Mirror Size 512.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 Fun - 69x - Nürburgring reverse - Jan 17
Post by: Cookie on January 18, 2017, 02:59:13 PM +0000
My HD5670 OpenGLV2 ;) settings:

(https://picload.org/image/rorwiacw/gemm2.png)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 Fun - 69x - Nürburgring reverse - Jan 17
Post by: EvilClive on January 18, 2017, 04:35:25 PM +0000
Thanks for the graphics info guys, I will try these out later.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 Fun - 69x - Nürburgring reverse - Jan 17
Post by: AnGex on January 18, 2017, 06:45:28 PM +0000
...
It seems I can only connect with 60fpsv2new.

... 

You could connect the 69xmod with 60fpsv2new?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 Fun - 69x - Nürburgring reverse - Jan 17
Post by: Rainier on January 18, 2017, 07:51:09 PM +0000
No...

This is the current situation on my PC

Mod65 : OK with 60fpsv2newmod. Blocked on main menu (green button doesn't work) for all other options 36fps, 60fpsv1 and v2

Mod66 : same as mod65

Mod67: same as mod65

Mod69X : CTD with 60fpsv2mod. Blocked on main menu for other options. so I cannot race with 69X...

Mod66 CanAm : same as mod65

ModF2 : same as mod 65

ModGT : same as mod69X


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 Fun - 69x - Nürburgring reverse - Jan 17
Post by: Cookie on January 18, 2017, 09:23:16 PM +0000
David, it is ok,

we race with

- 60fpsV2newmod - 65,66,67,67F2,CA66,CA71

- 60fpsV1 - SportsCars + 69X

Maybe your season.ini's are corrupted (never sort them in GEM-track-manager for directory name!!!)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 Fun - 69x - Nürburgring reverse - Jan 17
Post by: Rainier on January 18, 2017, 09:31:43 PM +0000
David, it is ok,

we race with

- 60fpsV2newmod - 65,66,67,67F2,CA66,CA71

- 60fpsV1 - SportsCars + 69X

Maybe your season.ini's are corrupted (never sort them in GEM-track-manager for directory name!!!)

it's OK ...except for 69X and GT  :(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 Fun - 69x - Nürburgring reverse - Jan 17
Post by: GregT on January 19, 2017, 02:40:59 PM +0000
it's OK ...except for 69X and GT  :(

Make sure the GPL and GPLSecrets folder are not marked "read-only" and make sure to allow file indexing on those folders.

One time that I installed 69X and 71CA, the cars folders were set as read-only and it caused me similar problems to yours. It took me a while to figure it out with 69X, but once it happened again with 71CA I found the problem quickly.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 Fun - 69x - Nürburgring reverse - Jan 17
Post by: Rainier on January 19, 2017, 02:55:25 PM +0000
it's OK ...except for 69X and GT  :(

Make sure the GPL and GPLSecrets folder are not marked "read-only" and make sure to allow file indexing on those folders.

One time that I installed 69X and 71CA, the cars folders were set as read-only and it caused me similar problems to yours. It took me a while to figure it out with 69X, but once it happened again with 71CA I found the problem quickly.

I will check it asap.

Thanks Greg !


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 Fun - 69x - Nürburgring reverse - Jan 17
Post by: Gareth on January 19, 2017, 03:37:24 PM +0000
my AVG picks and chooses what it will allow me to use and really doesn't like 60 fps. Similar symptoms to you.
disable until restart, no probs. then 2 weeks later I restart, forget, and wonder why its not working  :cursing:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 Fun - 69x - Nürburgring reverse - Jan 17
Post by: dave curtis on January 19, 2017, 06:34:11 PM +0000

I'm sure it would look pretty much the same to me too.

I have driven a bit in reverse when I span & had no idea where I was going or the correct direction of travel until I saw a car coming towards me.

That sure surprised me at the time and it's still amusing!
[also lucky for me;  I think you had driven far enough to hand the finishing position to me!]


But you guys know you're all crazy, right?!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 Fun - 69x - Nürburgring reverse - Jan 17
Post by: Cookie on January 19, 2017, 07:01:56 PM +0000
I just made a test with my Linux PC, 69X with 60fpsV1 at Spa67.
It only wanted to start in strange pit positions ::)

So I controlled the track69.ini and found that it was pretty empty, except the "no AI limp back" line of GEM+  :o
GEM+ creates this when you start a single race and check the no limp back!