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Title: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) - Rouen - Jan 29
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on January 25, 2017, 11:17:44 PM +0000
Season 31- 67F1 Warm Up –  Rouen

As a warm up event for Season 31 we are running a 67F1 race at Rouen. This year is the 30th anniversary of the 1967 championship and the UKGPL season will take place on 10 of the 11 original circuits. To complete the set we are running a French GP as a non-championship event even though the real French GP took place at Le Mans Bugatti.  The design team at Papyrus preferred Rouen.

The championship will be split into a Works & Privateers division. The Rouen race is open to all on one grid. It might be busy, so first come first served.

Race List = iGOR
Server = UKGPL_8
IP = see iGOR
Race date = Sunday 29-01-17
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track= Paoyrus
Race length = 20 1aps (40 minutes)
Variant = 1967
60fps patch used   = 60fpsV2newmod
Damage Model = Advanced
Qualifying time = minimum 30 minutes

Replays Available here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/replays/Archive/Season31/FunRaces/)

HANDICAPPING
For this race only the Works standard drivers (you know who you are) are requested not to take the Eagle or Lotus.

Unlimited Reset / Shift R are permitted, each followed by a compulsory Stop & Go within two laps.

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Password: see above


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) - Rouen - Jan 29
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on January 26, 2017, 07:37:01 AM +0000
If you have not heard IGOR is fixed. You need to update the link in your Igor.INI file in the GPL secrets folder. Change "gplrank.info" to "blw.net". "Simples" as the meerkats would say.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) - Rouen - Jan 29
Post by: Walter Conn on January 29, 2017, 02:04:17 AM +0000
I have done a couple of offline races to try to improve. I am using paddle shifter and left foot braking this season because my G27 shifter pots need to be cleaned. The paddle shifters are fun because I have both hands on the wheel and a foot on the brake to help with car control. lol  :o 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) - Rouen - Jan 29
Post by: dave curtis on January 29, 2017, 07:17:44 AM +0000
<SNIP!>
 my G27 shifter pots need to be cleaned.
<SNIP!>

Walter,
If you've had your G27 for less than 2 years [looks as though production may have ceased Dec 2015?] then raise a case with Logitech support pronto!

Otherwise, I hope the flappy paddles won't make you even quicker!   :laugh:

Cheers,
Dave.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) - Rouen - Jan 29
Post by: Arf Arf Arf on January 29, 2017, 08:27:21 PM +0000
If you have not heard IGOR is fixed. You need to update the link in your Igor.INI file in the GPL secrets folder. Change "gplrank.info" to "blw.net". "Simples" as the meerkats would say.

I have made the change (in GPLSecrets\iGOR\iGOR.ini). I can get into iGor ok, but chat doesn't seem to work.Keep getting 'error on joining chat'. any ideas?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) - Rouen - Jan 29
Post by: Cookie on January 29, 2017, 08:30:25 PM +0000
Colin, same here...


edit
But now it works ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) - Rouen - Jan 29
Post by: dave curtis on January 29, 2017, 10:21:15 PM +0000
Apologies Roo, went wide to let you past easy & may have ran on the grass/span into you.  Good to see you still retained the final position.

Cheers,
Dave.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) - Rouen - Jan 29
Post by: roo on January 29, 2017, 11:04:13 PM +0000
no worries Dave, I could see you were letting me past & knew instantly it was just bad luck. Luckily I could carry on & had a big gap to 3rd :)

Overall a great race for me, & in a BRM too! After a clean start (where was Dean?) & first lap, I was trying to keep up with Axel's Ferrari but dropping back steadily. He had a spin & from then on it was a case of keeping it on the black stuff to the flag.

I have been transitioning all 67's chassis to Feiner Kerl setups for some time now (don't get much seat time & haven't driven them for over a year really) & they are superb! They are nice & stable, which makes life easier, & I have been taking chunks out of my pb's - 0.6s off the BRM time today :D

Thanks to the admins & for a full grid. Great to see :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) - Rouen - Jan 29
Post by: Walter Conn on January 30, 2017, 02:51:14 AM +0000
What a nice weekend! I was able to watch the Rolex 24 hr and then race at Rouen.

Congrats podium, especially Dean for starting in 20th position and finishing in third!

I made the gear ratio too high so that I reduce wheel spin. Then I adjusted the setup to be more balanced. At least, that was my idea. I was still tinkering with it as time ran out in qualifying. The race was lots of fun. I enjoyed the competition. Both David C. and Phil were able to pull alongside my car through Virage Samson. I stayed on my side of the track successfully. Although maybe I slowed down too much doing it. Good race everyone!



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) - Rouen - Jan 29
Post by: DLogan on January 30, 2017, 03:18:51 AM +0000
I dropped myself to the back, as I'd made some changes and didn't want to be figuring out car while fighting (fast) others. Had a lot of fun coming back up through, tho.

Here's the race set-up I used: http://www.filedropper.com/rouenbrab

It's still not happy with T1 or the last corner (probably 0.5 sec at least to be gained there), and none too stable under braking, but some may find it useful.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) - Rouen - Jan 29
Post by: francesco on January 30, 2017, 07:11:12 AM +0000
Beatifull race,very fun.I have done some error but at least i have finished the race without my usual engine blow.Shame for Dony that have had an engine blow at the last lap,the batlle with him was fun.Instead to have a battle at the last curve against a Honda,was against a Ferrari but i have failed the breaking and the Ferrari was the winner ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) - Rouen - Jan 29
Post by: EvilClive on January 30, 2017, 09:28:30 AM +0000
no worries Dave, I could see you were letting me past & knew instantly it was just bad luck. Luckily I could carry on & had a big gap to 3rd :)

Overall a great race for me, & in a BRM too! After a clean start (where was Dean?) & first lap, I was trying to keep up with Axel's Ferrari but dropping back steadily. He had a spin & from then on it was a case of keeping it on the black stuff to the flag.

I have been transitioning all 67's chassis to Feiner Kerl setups for some time now (don't get much seat time & haven't driven them for over a year really) & they are superb! They are nice & stable, which makes life easier, & I have been taking chunks out of my pb's - 0.6s off the BRM time today :D

Thanks to the admins & for a full grid. Great to see :)


Grats to the podium guys and great to see a full grid again, it makes the racing so much more enjoyable for everyone I think.
I tried the BRM too, but without the same pace or success.

I have mentioned before that the BRM is a car that I have successfully avoided in my GPL career, But this season I have decided that it is a perfect opportunity to raise my GPL rank, as we are running the Papyrus circuits.
I guessed at a setup and did some tweaking in setup. It was not perfect and was 90% stable, with a tendency to snap oversteer under braking if I backed off the gas too much. With no more time to fiddle it was race time and the start went well .
I was able to follow the leading pack of 5 cars quite comfortably and wait for the tyres to warm up ( something that seems to be more important in the BRM?) Then I lifted too much for T1 and the engine decided to overtake the front axle.
From the back of the field I gradually clawed my way back to 4th before another spin dropped me back again.

Sorry to see Doni limping on the last lap after several laps off intense battling between us.


Can you point me at those setups Roo? as a look at a setup that works might enable me to cure the gremlins in mine.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) - Rouen - Jan 29
Post by: b_1_rd on January 30, 2017, 10:53:26 AM +0000
Had a bit of a torrid time with this.  I'd seen the note about IGOR and changed the server name in the ini which worked for the races but not chat.  A quick reboot sorted that for the first attempt but it seems hit and miss whether chat starts or not.

Joined the race server which froze before even connecting and went into a loop between the welcome screen and exit screen. Another reboot. This for some random reason seemed to wipe my 67 profile and wouldn't allow me to create another so spent 10 minutes sorting that out by deleting various files.

Eventually re-joined the server to find the wheel was off centre.  Exit again and reset the wheel.

Finally got to do a few laps, but every time a chat notification came up my FPS dropped to 40.  Found a quick fix to reduce font size to 0 in GPL Shift.

I'd decided to take the Honda as I wanted to get some times in for GPL Rank. But with the hassle prior to joining I was not really in the zone to concentrate with the Honda and wasn't performing very well with it.

After the third spin and what would have been a second reset, being well behind anyone else and not enjoying the experience, I called it a day.

I still don't think my PC is performing as it should with 60FPS despite buying a new video card and trying various tweaks to the NVidia profiles, so a bit more investigation to be done there.  All mixed in with trying to moved house in the coming weeks. Life is a bit like spinning plates just now!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) - Rouen - Jan 29
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on January 30, 2017, 12:43:00 PM +0000
Steve, sounds like you were working with last years McLaren / Honda pit crew. They have promised to sort out next season.
Stand out drives look to be Roo in the BRM & Francesco.
I took the opportunity to try the Lotus but pushed the engine a bit to hard. Had some interesting racing early on.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) - Rouen - Jan 29
Post by: EvilClive on January 30, 2017, 12:44:17 PM +0000
@ Steve.

Sorry to hear of your woes, so FWIW.....

I have a very old PC ( by any current standards!) running on XP and as far as the frame rate drop is concerned I find that Pribluda has a massive impact.

67's are probably the least affected, as the graphics demands are not as great as some of the other mods, but even so if I have all of the various options displayed I can lose 20-25% frame rate. If I don't turn off everything except what I consider vital info ( relative position and tyre temps ) I can see FPS of 20 as we leave the grid and a max of 40FPS once rolling. With minmal Prib display it dips slightly off the grid, but will hold a rock steady 55-60FPS during racing. Some of the other mods require that I lose tyre temps as well, or even abandon Prib and rely on pit boards!!

Also, if "CHAT" is impacting on your frame rate so badly you can disable "in car chat" on the GPL options screen.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) - Rouen - Jan 29
Post by: dave curtis on January 30, 2017, 01:27:12 PM +0000
<SNIP!>
I have a very old PC ( by any current standards!) running on XP
<SNIP!>

Slightly off the original intended topic,  but I'd be somewhat interested in what hardware is running out there & how it's coping...   I'm guessing that only a few have top-spec i7 or whatever the current topdog is  & I'm definitely in the ancient technology group.

Cheers,
Dave.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) - Rouen - Jan 29
Post by: b_1_rd on January 30, 2017, 03:57:25 PM +0000
Thanks Clive. Once I set the font to 0 it seemed OK.  While my PC is not new or high spec it should run this without issue and since getting some settings in this thread HERE (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=10363) it's been much improved over the default.  It was just one thing after another last night and I think I'm missing something on this PC somewhere which is reducing performance.  I'll find it eventually.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) - Rouen - Jan 29
Post by: DLogan on January 30, 2017, 07:48:31 PM +0000
...I'd be somewhat interested in what hardware is running out there & how it's coping...

Phenom 9850 Black (2.5 GHz quadcore, coming up on 9 years old now), 4 GB DDR2/800, GTX 650 Ti (4 years old), on Win10. Clocks are at stock. I've had it up to 3.0 GHz and stable, but so heat much fans very noise.

Running OGLv2, as D3Dv2 just is not happy despite all efforts, so no Prib. Cannot use AA (framerate plummets) but AF doesn't affect it at all.

Presently saving pennies for a 4K monitor, think that's my best bet for better image quality without gutting system (and my present monitor is crap).

Outside of GPL, it still runs all the newest stuff (and not always at "low spec" settings only). Presently (re)playing Skyrim (Special Edition), as I missed out on the DLCs, at 1080p with mid to high settings, chugs sometimes due to slow (ancient) hard drives and meagre RAM, otherwise perfectly playable.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) - Rouen - Jan 29
Post by: Iestyn Davies on January 30, 2017, 08:20:31 PM +0000
...I'd be somewhat interested in what hardware is running out there & how it's coping...
Running OGLv2, as D3Dv2 just is not happy despite all efforts, so no Prib.

Prib now works with both v2 rasters? Installed it a few years ago

My system wasn't amazing when I last upgraded it 8+ years ago (1.8 dual core, 2gb ram) but it can still do 60 fps with all mods through decent optimisation, Spa67 is the main place where I run Many Objects with 60 fps and bigger carsets.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) - Rouen - Jan 29
Post by: b_1_rd on January 30, 2017, 09:52:13 PM +0000
but it can still do 60 fps with all mods through decent optimisation

Is it possible to share how you are optimising this system?

Thanks


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) - Rouen - Jan 29
Post by: EvilClive on January 30, 2017, 10:03:23 PM +0000
Just a thought........... I use the little utility "Enditall" to clear the system of all unwanted programmes before I join a race.

It might be that you have something running in the background that is using up valuable resources?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) - Rouen - Jan 29
Post by: Cookie on January 30, 2017, 10:16:21 PM +0000
Steve each PC is unique, so you must find optimized settings for your own pc.

First you have to analyze what is going on when you run GPL.
So please post a pic of the Open Hardware Monitor while running some laps.

The main problem is that GPL is old and modern pc's  do not recognize it as a 3D program


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) - Rouen - Jan 29
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on January 30, 2017, 10:49:24 PM +0000
In case anyone has the same issues or a solution. I can only run Pribluda with Open GL, it fails with OpenGL2. D3Dv2 - I don't think runs Prib, but the mirrors have been twisted to look at the sky.

I either run with the Pitboard only or Open GL, which draws some tram lines on the screen. Not a diasater, just annoying & an ongoing reminder of my dislike of Microsoft.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) - Rouen - Jan 29
Post by: roo on January 31, 2017, 08:15:24 AM +0000
Can you point me at those setups Roo? as a look at a setup that works might enable me to cure the gremlins in mine.

Here are all FK setups. For Lotus I have copied the eagle setups (apparently he never drove the Lotus)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kn1az1nbx2y91sc/_FK%20Setups.7z?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/kn1az1nbx2y91sc/_FK%20Setups.7z?dl=0)

:)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) - Rouen - Jan 29
Post by: roo on January 31, 2017, 08:50:54 AM +0000
Slightly off the original intended topic,  but I'd be somewhat interested in what hardware is running out there & how it's coping...   I'm guessing that only a few have top-spec i7 or whatever the current topdog is  & I'm definitely in the ancient technology group.

my pc was very troublesome during last season so I ended up spending some pennies. Turned out to be HDD woes rather than the processor, so my spec is now:
intel core duo e7200 @ 2.53GHz
4GB ram
500GB SSD hard disk - this is a massive boost to performance imo
win7 pro 32bit
nvidia gtx550Ti (x2) - thanks to generous friend who has more money than I do :D

gpl:
openGLv2,
pribluda running sector times, track position & occasionally tyre temps.

I was getting poor fps with direct3dv2 but openglv2 sorted that. I now get a solid 60fps at spa67.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) - Rouen - Jan 29
Post by: EvilClive on January 31, 2017, 09:06:38 AM +0000
Can you point me at those setups Roo? as a look at a setup that works might enable me to cure the gremlins in mine.

Here are all FK setups. For Lotus I have copied the eagle setups (apparently he never drove the Lotus)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kn1az1nbx2y91sc/_FK%20Setups.7z?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/kn1az1nbx2y91sc/_FK%20Setups.7z?dl=0)

:)

Thanks Roo, hopefully will get a chance to examine those over the next few days.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) - Rouen - Jan 29
Post by: b_1_rd on January 31, 2017, 10:22:49 AM +0000
Axel,  I saved an image of the Open Hardware Monitor, it doesn't seem to reveal anything obvious.  Just to clarify the performance isn't poor, I just think it could be better.  I get 60FPS most of the time with only the occasional drop.  However when people report they have no issue with a lower spec system it makes me look for an improvement,

(http://speedsnap.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/gpu.jpg)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) - Rouen - Jan 29
Post by: Cookie on January 31, 2017, 12:12:30 PM +0000
Steve the only thing that looks suspect is, that the total CPU load goes up to 100% after ~3 minutes.
I suspect a background program running.

Make shure to only have necessary programs in startup!

Use CCleaner to disable them.

Here is my autostart of my working pc...
(https://picload.org/image/roldlaia/auto.jpg)



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) - Rouen - Jan 29
Post by: b_1_rd on January 31, 2017, 01:55:13 PM +0000
OK, I'll take a look.  Thanks


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) - Rouen - Jan 29
Post by: roo on January 31, 2017, 02:28:52 PM +0000
Stand out drives look to be Roo in the BRM & Francesco.

Thanks Billy, appreciate the compliment. Definitely one of my better performances :)