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Round 8 of the Porsche Cup series:-

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Practice: 19:15 (60 mins)
Qual: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30 15(TBC) Laps  (approx 35 mins)

Cars allowed:
Porsche Cup Car 2017

Supercup skin pack
http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/911-gt3-supercup-2016-skin-pack.13140/ (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/911-gt3-supercup-2016-skin-pack.13140/)

Live Timing: stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat (http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat)

Track: Bathurst (Full)
Track link http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/bathurst.8677/ (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/bathurst.8677/)
install to your c:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\assettocorsa\content\tracks

Time of Day Setting: 13:30
Weather: Clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: None required

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=100
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=0
SESSION_TRANSFER=N/a

Damage: 70%

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=588&theme=4 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=588&theme=4)
(3) Please use the Driver Details page to ensure that the league management software has your correct name

Onboard lap of the mighty Bathurst  :o

https://youtu.be/PvLl1MiH7zA (https://youtu.be/PvLl1MiH7zA)  8)

To anyone with access to Motors TV, they have been showing highlights of the 12Hour Liquid Moly GT Race this weekend and week. I watched it and it was fantastic racing  8) but a real car killer in those twisty walls up on the hill  :o  Awesome overtake to win it too  8)

Some times on stracker already  :) looking forward to this as have only raced here once before I think and never in AC, bit of a learning curve.

i cant open the stracker page anymore.. it doesnt load

is it down somehow?

I've just had to put a support ticket in with the hosting company. The server's gone AWOL :(

Is the server back up yet? Might dive on for some recce laps this eve  :)

Sorry I doubt the server will be usable before tomorrow now, ended up with Windows being reinstalled so it's currently working through 151 updates. Then I need to get the games working again, at least AC is a doddle.

Ok, server back online. Sorry for the outage today.

You all owe Picnic a huge Thank you. I know how late he was up last night trying to fix everything

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Pete:                                           :angel-wings:





Us mere mortals:    :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

Pete, you are a star, your efforts behind the scenes are very much appreciated.  :thumbup1:

What caused such a huge reinstall?

Good work Pete!  :angel:

Server was still off this eve.  :-\

Stunning track this, the mod creator did an amazing job, a real work of art  8) Did some early laps offline but def more seconds to find. The walls on the hill are terrifying, especially going downhill  :o its far too easy to take too much momentum into a corner and clout a corner and will be doubly hard following another car closely downhill.

I did a few laps and got down to a 12:7 I think, but the tracker still has an older time on it.
One of my fave tracks this, so am unhappy as I will be in Edinburgh next week, so will miss it  :(

May be back Thursday Eve in time for the R3E event. and off topic, but my real race(ish) engine
should be up and running by then  :) 17th April at Croft booked. lets hope it isn't persisting it down this year.

Are you sure? I can see Spanner on it now, well according to Stracker

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It went off when I was on, but seemed to last only an hour or 2 apparently.

Definitely a tricky track though, has been awhile since I last raced it. Need some more laps looking at stracker. Speaking of which, are you gonna join this season again here ( or the Porsche cup at Core ) Jeffrey ?  ;D

Jeffrey, cup car has a best downshift protection, isn't it?  ;)
Have fun with us, Jeff! :)

It has been less noticable than on Zandvoort  :P

2:08 Maikel?! That's insane ... git  :laugh:  king of the hill huh?  8)

Where on earth are you making the 3 seconds MK?! I'm sure you will crash at that speed.  :-*

In fact I'd pretty much wager my left eye-ball that this race will be a crash fest. I'm in two minds whether to race on Wednesday. I have nothing to play for in the championship and although this track is challenging and sort of fun to hot lap, I can't see it being a good track to race at especially with the known over-drivers ready to block the track when they smash it against the wall and then carry anyway because the damage level is too low and then punt slower drivers up the rear through the twisties when they "didnt expect them to brake so early".

Simon, I actually thought this after the last race at VIR but you are much braver than me to say it out loud :) I'm expecting a crash fest also through the twisties and as the track is so narrow, I have even contemplated not qualifying or starting from the pit lane. I predicted the last two races would be crash fests and this track is the hardest of them all. Fingers crossed I'm wrong as all to play for in the championship.

God of the hill:  :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVeiwrO7dfs
Raced this track in 1,5h GT3 races in champ.  With no significant car damade and total repairs. 30 pilots staying on track. Sure- some of them sometimes crashed, but it was not in law  :)

Bunch of sissies, don't like a challenge!  ::) I get the same crying if ever the Nurburgring is hinted at   :P. We can't always race at neat little wide circuits  :hammer:
Embrace the challenge!  :) if you suspect the guy ahead is going to put it in the wall just hang back a bit. Let's face it, no overtaking is likely to be achievable in the middle sector on the hill but that still leaves good opportunitys at plenty of other corners.

I am thinking of allowing tyre warmers for this round. It's Australia and temps are high enough so we shouldn't be skating around on cold tyres for two long laps. It will only end with guys clipping walls and/or causing a pileup. Just don't get used to them  ;)

I'd still not use them, this gives an opportunity for people to benefit from other's mistakes.
Maybe crank the temperature up, so it's more like Australia and tyres heat up better.

Yes but as the ladies above mentioned, I would like to avoid a pileup on lap 1 or 2 because someone over drives on the cold tyres and puts it in a wall with a long train behind them. I don't mind increasing track temps to compensate though don't know what affect that will have on tyres later in the race.  :-\

Aussi temp temps seem to 'average' around 40-45 from watching the V8's - As for what will this do to tyres? Who cares! As long as AC handles it realistically then I'm happy  ;D
Need to do some practice with that said - I've only driven an RSR around here so far...

I don't mind what we do, just saying, based on previous races, I think we are going to be in for another eventful evening :) Personally I don't like the idea of tyre warmers being introduced as I've never really had an issue with cold tyres at the start and I don't like changing things mid season. I think just run the race as normal but hike the temps up to be more in like with real Australian temps.

Agree with this. As long as everyone just makes sure to take it abit easy the first lap and doesn't try to do any dangerous overtakes in the twisty bit, it shouldn't be that bad. Raced a 2 hour GT2 race on this track and besides a few minor incidents it went pretty well ( only brushed the wall once  ;D ). Also did a Ford Escort race which was surprisingly clean aswell.


It actually wasn't that bad. In the 19 laps I did I only had one crash, one tiny brush against a wall and one time I spun around exiting the pits on cold tyres  ::)

Okay no tyre warmers but make track temps around 30-32 degs  :) and don't blame me if you slide into a wall  ;) I just found it daft to have to do a min 2-3 laps in Aussie heat on stone cold tyres and makes practise sessions a waste spending half the time waiting for the tyres to warm up at 2+ mins a lap. I don't get hours of practise like some on here  :(

Can people stop with the veiled criticism of peoples driving and just come out with it.

It comes across like your looking down on everyone your sharing the grid with. Clearly the last race has changed things!


I for one wont be driving on Wednesday night, not sure if its to do with 3rd party tracks but it feels completely different from Imola, almost like its gone backwards. Yesi can do lots of practise but whats the point practising on hot tyres when I cant really replicate the first laps on rubbish tyres with no grip.

Freak. ;) ;D

I'm sure I did that at least 3 times (muppet).

TBH I think the cold tyre effect here is minimal compared to other tracks so I wouldn't bother with tyre blankets.

You dont like this  moded track? Why?
I was drove in track modes in AC from first AC days and i can say what is it- bad track convert means. This mode still unoficial but have VERY good overall qualyty and done with talent and love. IMO - may be some more bumpy than in real. But ... Look in Zandvoort  ;)

Please say true air\track temps for race , Mark. We need to set our pressures for.

Jeez everyone has turned into whiners over the last couple of rounds. I should have ended the series at Imola and I wouldn't have to hear all this complaining  >:(
You guys do remember this is for fun? With a good hint of competitive spirit  ;) just turn up and race, nothing's changed about the drivers involved and the track surface feels no different to Imola to me. Next week is flat wide Monza though no doubt the braking zones will be the new complaint  ::) people saying I'm not going to bother this round just dis-respect and lessen the race for those that normally race them each week, so get off your pretty high horses  :gun_bandana:

Oh and Baikal, that wasn't aimed at you  :-*

Not that I can do this one, but I thought the track was well done, and much the same as any other variant I have driven
And the tyres were up to a useable, if not quite optimum grip by the end of lap 1, and were only silly slidey
for the 1st couple of corners.

Yeah, that's what I thought. Its only really silly slidey when leaving the pits but after a few corners its fine. VIR was the same for me.

hmm, think i'll stick to 8/10ths and try and get it home!  No idea how you guys are getting 2:08's   :notworthy: everytime I try to push a bit harder it ends up in the wall  :surrender: already feels crazy fast just to get a 2:11  :o
My only available half hour practise was ruined by non srouk drivers not voting to skip sessions so we sat endlessly in the pit lane  ::) can't we remove 'race' completely from the practise server? Does it have to run all 3 sessions?
Not been able to do enough practise laps to do this track justice  :'( ...but improved to 2:11, so slightly happier  :)

Isnt race set to 2 or 3 laps normally?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wefTeM5VZmo
real  :)

Bunch of amateurs  :P 8)

Just incase anybody missed this update to the tracks billboards http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/billboard-update-for-bathurst-by-acu.13726/

Race day folks  :)

Probably least amount of practise I have managed for this series so will drive within my limits and try and stay out of the walls on the hill :-[

I've just had to download up update guys - it's only small but be aware  :)

Nooooooooooo - why always on race day when I've got enough to worry about!

Multiplayer AC 1.12.4 bug:
http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/the-official-news-from-the-social-networks-thread.35257/page-506#post-847837
Hopes for fix:
http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/the-official-news-from-the-social-networks-thread.35257/page-507#post-847861

what do i need to join?

Just allow your AC to update when you start Steam and join as usual I'd have thought

thanks

1.2.5 deployed just now. Highly recommend reload Steam, server and  game  :)

I need the practice.................. grrrrrrrrrrrrr - not messing around reloading the server

Talk about an unfortunate timing of updates  :o

Server updated - 20 mins practice

I'm on 1.12.5 and I can't see the server wtf

can someone explain to me what is going on

There was a game update after I started the server so we stopped, updated and started again but with a shorter practice time to keep to roughly the right schedule.

Make sure you're running 1.12.5 (bottom left as you load track/cars)

wow.. i had a great race with Michael Boylan after Alexey let me pass at the Start finish line for whatever reason (?)..

then i crashed at the dipper because im stupid but i carried on and tried to fight the way up again.


aaaaaand i got disconnected again, like it happened in the last laps at VIR last week.
Something or someone wants to test my temper it seems... it happened only on the SRou servers but i have no clue why that happened and happened only to me.

sucks tho and my motivation to race decreases every round because of some weird bs happening to me.

hope you all had a blast at least.. looked like there werent too many contacts with the walls?

Congrats Maikel on being worthy winner of the championship and a shot out to nfsw for some very good pace. Thanks to the rest of you guys for some good clean racing, I have had fun. Shame I screwed up the first round with not enough fuel and last week when I couldn't make it due to unforeseen issues. Had a poor quali due to catching slower traffic in the wrong places and a mistake. Good race even though ended up 5th after the first corner. Got 2 clean passes done after a couple or so laps but nfsw was to quick and had to settle for 3rd. Hope to race again in the next championship and happy with a couple of wins and podium finishes by keeping my nose clean. Thanks guys.

Oh wow, what an incredible race, probably one of my best. I woukd say I pretty much drove a perfect race. Qualifed 8th which was better than expected and by the exit of turn 1 I was 6th. My car was perfect from lights out so I could push right away and had an truely incredible race with Denis and Alexey. Kept it clean, controlled and consistant for the entire race and ended up finishing 6th. Simply amazing.

Hey, we have two more rounds to go, Monza and Spa. Its not over just yet :)

Such a lovely track to drive on  :P

Had a great start and managed to get a good lead out of T1, from there on out the first few laps I was trying to gain a big enough gap to nfsw, taking a couple unnecessary risks along the way.
Tried to take it down a few notches after I gained a few seconds but this track is so much more fun going all out  ;D

Shame about those weird discos you're getting Denis. Looked through the replay and saw you ( and a few others aswell ) had some nice battles going on. Nice to see such a clean start and T1 on these cold, slippery tyres. Seems the warmer temps helped abit with that aswell. Though for some reason I was losing about 2/10s of a second on the last straight compared to my personal best lap yesterday. Even though I got a better exit. Used the same setup, only the tyre pressure down a notch. No idea if the temperatures should affect the engine performance.  ???

Time for some good old familiar tracks now with Spa and Monza.

Sorry to Mark Jonzo for the crash in qualifying, will post a video of what happened in a while but I just lost the car on the curb. Thought that letting the car drift away from the racing line was for best however APEXTECHUSA went that side to avoid me so I ended up stopped in the middle of the track. It also messed up somebody else lap too, though not sure who's. So sorry to them as well.

Think that was me, I went for a gap that was slightly smaller than my car without lifting and got away with it  ;D
Then crashed on my own going up the mountain  ::)

Epic start to the race with Eck alongside to the cutting, shame I then managed to throw my positions away courtesy of hill hits and a brief trip into the kitty litter.
I demand a re-run! (Just so we can do it again to be honest)

So here's the video of what happened in quali, and honestly I'd like your opinions on what I could have done better after the spin, as rolling backwards up the hill was not a very good idea in hindsight. Should I have steered towards the closest wall just to get out the way as fast as possible?

(EDIT: ... the more I watch this, the more I cringe with just how badly I handled that. Rolling into the middle of the track, then driving the wrong way towards Thomas!)
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Video:
https://youtu.be/oP1Y5pm03C8

As for the race...

Really enjoyed it, only had about 20mins practice beforehand so the result was much better than I'd hoped for and only had a few minor bumps along the way.
Brilliant track, I hope this makes a comeback in a future series :)

Hey, we have two more rounds to go, Monza and Spa. Its not over just yet :)
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Oh happy days!

Phew, well that went better than I expected  :) and great to hear everyone enjoying the racing!

Qually was very tough, I was gradually improving my pace but just as my tyres got to optimum then Sam had his big spin at T3 and I got collected. So had to start all over again and get the tyres warmed up. I was on a real flyer 6/10ths up on my last lap of qually and stupidly over did the right foot on exit of the last downhill corner...blew it  :taz: that cost me very dear as meant I Qualied about 3-4 places lower  :'(

Race was great, kept it steady and out of trouble the whole race, just one minor side brush with a bit of wall. Picked my way past a few spinners and steadily worked upto 7th. Last laps I had the jaws music humming in my ears and started to feel the pressure as shark began to close on me  ;D and my driving slipped. But I kept it clean and finished well  :)

The cars looked superb in a train up the hill, big congrats to Maikel 'king of the hill'  :notworthy: and all that finished

All is simple- you are asked about it using flashes and kicking my rear end. So , i let you to pass me and you will enjoy with Michael  ;) :D
Thanks for the race guys!

Not much to be done in a situatuon like that imo. Could've rolled it towards a wall the second you got turned around, but thats not something your thinking about at that time  :P
And with that much traffic coming up the best thing was just to stay still.

Though I would've tried aiming for the other wall when Thomas was coming on.

Its just a tricky track when someone spins around on the hill part. Narrow road with nowhere to go. Though that is one of the charms of this track  ;D

Onboard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHlJ3PamA1Y
It was hard and fun race for me. 10's lap was apotheosis of it. Small and blast fight w Michael- but hi is well defended his pos!
Strange break behavier in begin of downhill destabilise my car and then break on the left side grass brings to spin with Simon. Sorry Simon  :)
BTW Strange grip feellings was in race. I have ideal 26PSI but grip was not stabil in some cases and feel like overgriped in turns in higher road ambience temps.

So here is my Q and R report

Q: After few laps that I make my lap time in a run for a better PB I was almost 1 sec of my lap time that was my Q lap and in the last corner someone spun out and it was in the apex of the turn, I saw him, I turn and because I didn't wan't to lose the PB I stay in the throttle and I was telling to my self "now the car will grip and I will avoid him, now the car will grip, now ..... grip...." but grip never come and I slam into him (sorry about that :D ). I tried again but couldn't find my pace so I end it up 3rd place.

R: 1st corner wen't everything well, in the first couple of corners(laps don't remember) I lost 2 places and I was some seconds behind but as soon I find my rhythm I manage to close the gap from Samwell and Thomas because they where fighting for the 3rd position. Thomas got 3rd and as soon I pass Samwell the gap from Thomas was around 4-5 secs. I tried to close it and I got it to .5 sec in the 10th lap but then couple mistakes happened and the gap was again to 2.5-3. I said let's give it a try to close it again but couldn't so 4th position for me.

Fun and scary race with this beasts and now i'm looking for the next race. Congrats to Maikel and to all others.

Side  by Side  ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35PHzOTrnig

Well done,  those corners are already tricky alone. :)

Best to slam on the anchors and stay still so you can press ESC quickly. A stationary car is a more predictable car than a moving car so if in doubt, stop wherever you are.

That was an incredible few laps and I was amazed I got the place back. I was half expecting to follow behind you after the first left kink when you were ahead but the door was so wide open that it would of been rude to not go through hehehehehe

What does Saido mean??

Yes, me too, as soon as I started the evening on the server, that car felt very different from when on the practice server. The tyres felt very over-heaty and made braking very tail happy especially. Tyre pressures seem wrong on the game, lowering them to lower the temps just seems wrong, but that seems to be what to do, but it's not what the tooltips say and it's not what I expect!

Sorry there won't be one of those fancy lap chart things for this race, the log parser barfs and doesn't produce anything usable :(

I found my car more understeery than oversteer. The two left 90 degree corners felt particularly so, the car just washed out on turn in.
You sure you are watching tyre temp and not psi for adding/removing pressure?

The results last night keep the championship real close for some of us  :) I am enjoying a series long great 3 way fight with Fmg and Michael for 5th & 6th :fencing:
Shark can still overhaul Thomas with two rounds remaining. Nfsw prob needs a Maikel dnf to have any chance of being champion though. Cracking series  8)

And a great turnout again with 19 on track last night.

Watching both and the temps were nice and the pressures looked fine too. Reducing pressure should generate heat and adding pressure should reduce but it doesn't seem to be an effective way to manage the heat at all with the opposite happening? I ended up taking some camber out the of the back because of the feeling that it was over-heating even though the temps looked good.

My car felt amazing last night but I used the default setup. All I changed was brake bias up from 62 to 63 and aero down from 8 to 7. I didn't touch anything like tyres and I think they were all set to 16. I could push from the green light and had lots of grip. The only time I started to struggle was about 5 laps to the end and the back up stepping out on the last 90 degree left hander and the first 90 degree left hander. I just had to make sure I was smooth getting back on the throttle rather than stamping on it.

It was free joke traslation from "Side By Side" ))) I corrected it now) Thanks for the battle- it was several laps / And you are cool- i had some slip here and you revert back your positiom in 1 moment. I was amazed too  ;D

That's odd, cause I think I was faster than before as I think I hit the limiter a couple of times at the fastest part of the track. Wing was on 5. Higher pressures are supposed to give you a higher top speed, so maybe your pressures were lower or the extra heat made them stickier (and increase rolling resistance?).

My rear camber was high ( approx -5 ( max grip point) In low conditions temps it was not bad for me . But in hot weather its brings supergrip in rear axle ( ok by the logic) and i was forced to use brake balanse to rear for last and first conner for manage  rear some better. And yes.. Aristotelis sayd that for this moment main thing is control PSI ( 26 ideal)- not tyre temps. So i was need to lower rear camber about 1-1.5 deg but i am not done it in GP prac session. Maikel knows how to make setups some better )))
BTW  i use wing 7 here. Hope in better rear stability... I am not 18 but 50 )))

 ;D First Wed night race for a while and did I enjoy that. Not much praccy and no setup but only one mistake towards end of race lost me 4 places. Hard track to run fault free on, too many walls for an old timer. Look forward to next week.

At some point, I must have overwritten my VIR setup with default. I loaded it for Bathurst, without looking. All seemed well in practice and qualifying, so I went with it.

Running somewhere near practice/qual. times, I was just enjoying the race and company. I was running a little higher than I should've been, due to others difficulties. I messed up myself, giving a couple of those places back. It was all going too well, when the yellow fuel light came on. All manner of thoughts started, chief among them, "maybe my increased pace was to blame", "but all was fine at VIR?". Fuel stop coming, no matter what caused it, I was gonna get it right this time. I needed another third of a tank (in hindsight, this should've been a clue), thinking I had 40 litres onboard, somewhere around 13/14 litres would do it. I stopped fiddling when I saw 15, on the pitconfig app. While I fiddled, I'd lost time, Simon and Alexey had gone. Must've been a great battle, as I suddenly caught sight of them. Coming down into the dipper, they'd come together. I was never quick through there, so no danger of hitting anyone but I got those two places back. Only to go to the pit... I was never in the race from then on, or rather my mind wasn't. A series of fails and great driving by others around me, saw me drop down. I lucked into a couple of spots, to finish 11th.

Grats podium, thanks to all.

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Close calls with the wall

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^ quality screenshots right there!  :thumbup1:

Ah, I get you now :) It was a great battle so thank you. Very clean and intense  :thumbup1:

Air and track temps were very different between the practive server and Race server.
Think track was around 27 or so in practice and 37odd in race as the air temp was up where Mark wanted it.
Think I ended up having to add air to my setup for the race server, but then I also had something wierd happen with my setups so it might not have been due to the temp changes.

No problem. This mode track has a bug with start\stop points. May be it's a result of it  :)