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Season 31 Historic Trophy – Round 3 - Montjuich Park

Welcome to the third round of the Historic Trophy at Montjuich Parque, a street circuit on Montjuich mountain above Barcelona. A twisty tricky circuit, it was the site of the tragic 1975 Spanish Grand Prix. Many drivers felt that the circuit was unsafe, and two time world champion Emerson Fittipaldi withdrew in protest before the start of the race. On lap 26 the Embassy Hill-Lola car of Rolf Stommelen left the track, killing five people. The race was subsequently stopped at half distance and half points awarded, with Jochen Mass being recorded as the winner. Lella Lombardi became the first female driver to score world championship points, taking 0.5 points for 6th place. Formula One never returned to the circuit after the accident.

This race is for cars with 2 Litre engines.

Race List	=	IGOR
Server	=	UKGPL_4 (TBC)
IP Address	=	look at IGOR
Race date	=	05-03-2017
GPL mod	=	66F1
Variant	=	2 Litre
60fps patch used	=	60fpsV2newmod
Track	=	Montjuich Park (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=9322%20%20http://montjuich.speedgeezers.net)
Qualification	=	20:45  UK time -> 45min
Race	=	race starts at ~21:30 UK time
Race length	=	~50 min -> 31 laps
Damage Model	=	PRO
Replay	=	here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/replays/Archive/Season31/Historics)

Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Driver lists and divisional rules can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=591&theme=6)

Only reported incidents will be moderated, there is no Red Zone.

The traditional Historics handicapping system will be used for this season with the drivers leading the championship being limited to the slower chassis.

Drivers limited to the Group I cars (T1F Eagle Climax or Lotus 33 Climax) are:
Doni Yourth and Cookie

Drivers limited to the Group I or Group II cars (T1F Eagle Climax, Lotus 33 Climax, Brabham BT11 2.5lt or Lotus 33 BRM) are:
MagicArsouille (Tristan Bot) and Evil Clive

All other drivers have a free choice.

I think I may give this one a miss. The historics have not been very kind in the first two races; Zolder I didn't get past t1, I wasn't quick, a little brain fade from me didn't help I admit, maybe I need to practice on how to negotiate a stationary car, I got stuck on a bank=DNF. At Pancine I was at the business end but mistakes meant another DNF, at the time I believe I was taken out, twice, but I watch the replay and see it from others POV and not necessarily all their fault ;D so I leave it, life is too short, tho a reset would of helped.
This will be a mess! pros in slow cars, ams in fast cars, no run off and no reset. Ocamon anyone? I wish you all the best of luck!  :-\

The slower cars are not that much slower at Montjich. Good luck to those racing today.

Practice server up.

It doesn't have to be!
 
I suspect Tristan could beat me in a pedal car around here.  So that fact that he is limited to a Group I or II car won't make any difference in his grid position compared to me and the rest of the "Ams".  The "Pros" will still be at the front. But hopefully it will mean we won't get lapped quite as quickly.

The handicapping just prevents the championship being a series of spec races with everyone in the fastest car and it also stops someone running away with the championship.

You are quite right about the lack of run-off and no shift-R.  We will all have to be sensible at T1 and T2 on lap 1 with cold tyres. 

Tried in the server and unfortunaly  I see fall fps in some point of track, specially on T1, tried to lower details but with poor results

It is quite a graphics intensive track.  I assume you get the same drop in FPS when testing off-line?  I'm not aware of any server settings I can change that would help.  Unless I am mistaken?

Yes the falls fps happen offline also, but only near T1 and less than server, my fear is with full grid
I try to lower detalis at minimum, with only texture track and wall visible

Saw just now.. there is a lite version of track, I installed this and no fall FPS offline test, no problem in server also but there is only me on track, I am confident  :laugh:

COMMENT REDACTED IN INTEREST OF oh, mustn't offend anyone, it's not their fault when whatever the **** happens.

Best of luck to whoever punted me onto the wall.

edit: this season is MEANINGLESS, the points are MEANINGLESS, the races are MEANINGLESS, whoever ends up winning this shitfest, guess what? You didn't win anything except a f***ing coin flip. Enjoy the rewards of your "skill" and "practice".

Screen freeze in qualifying and ditto in the race from a tasty P4.  Sigh...  :(

First engine explosion of season 31.I was accustomed to a great  reliability but this time was not so.Is a shame because a sixth is not usual for me.

Here also: Freeze in the race in a P6 or 7 ...

No freeze but a drop of FR when with other cars.

Dean, I've reduced the font in your post as it was making the thread difficult to read. If you have been involved in an incident, submit an incident report. Don't shout on the forums.

Everyone else, please submit incident reports ASAP.

As far as my race goes.  Made a few unforced errors which damaged my suspension.  Tried to get to 50% distance to score points but hit barrier again and lost 2 wheels with less than half a lap to half distance  :(

Grats to finishers and especially the podium.

Will do (as soon as someone bothers to post the replay).

I decided to join with five minutes of qually remaining. I took the last place on the grid. Sorry if I prevented anyone from being able to join. My condolences to those involved in incidents or disconnects. It happens at Montjuic more than other places. This was my first time to drive the small Ferrari. It was a nice drive. The car handled good enough that I could work with it. The tire pressure was too high in the front, but the problem did not flare up until the second half of the race. I was on my own after Phil crashed out. BTW, Good race Phil, tough luck. I don't think that I was quick enough to overtake you. I was just hoping that we could catch the next group of cars in front of us.

Walter

Very fun race, managed to sneak 3rd on the grid, after crossing the line with 2 seconds to go in qualifying, for a final lap  :angel:.

Start went well to T1, then on the exit Alessandro and Tris touched, and I had to brake hard to avoid colliding, as the road was blocked in front. Somehow, Sam and Cookie made it past, as I got through with a few scrapes and nudges struggling to get going in 1st and with the track still pretty much blocked.

Barely hanging on from Clive in the confusion :o, I then actually touched Axel in the last corner (a bump draft while braking in a corner! :laugh:) and Clive passed inside. He then passed Axel, and thus began a mighty train!

Unable to pass, and eating the barrier a few times trying (the last time giving some damage), both of their engines eventually blew and I reeled in Sam, almost bumping Billy in my haste. Another excellent battle, like with Axel; when Sam ran a defensive line, there was no way for me to pass around the outside into T1.

Finally, on the last lap, after throwing everything at it (even down the inside), Sam touched the inside barrier onto the 'backstraight' and I could get by and just about hold it up the hill.

Congrats to Alessandro for a first win at UKGPL, probably the first of many, and also taking mine and Hristo's track records along with it  8)

Commiserations to those involved in the first lap pile up and to those that had a screen freeze during the race. It's never fun when circumstances take you out of the running early on  :(.

My race was a pretty decent effort for my standards. Made a good start from 5th on the grid and just about avoided Alessandro's & Tristan's coming together (along with the ensuing chaos behind). That promoted me to 2nd place, though Axel was making me work hard to keep my position. Eventually managed to build a small gap from the Axel, Clive & Iestyn train and drove my own race for the most part Alessandro was in another league (or another series  ;)).

Later on Iestyn found another gear and began reeling me in. With half-a-dozen laps or so I played it defensively and we had a terrific battle for second. All was going well until I clipped the inside-barrier on the last lap, losing just enough momentum to allow Iestyn to pass :hammer:. Well played Iestyn  ;).

Congrats to Alessandro for his first win in UKGPL and to all other finishers on this demanding track.

Grats to Alessandro on his win and fast pace.

Yes Iestyn and Axel, that was a great battle ( although I'm still slightly miffed over Iestyn's last second qually lap!!).
The usual Lap 1 carnage around, or just after, T1 at this track produced the expected mess. I got baulked by cars bouncing around in front of me allowing Sam and Axel to sneak through.

I felt that I was quicker on cold tyres, but Iestyn and Axel had more cc's and that worked in their favour in many places until Iestyn tagged Axel at the bottom of the hill and ran wide giving me a gap up the inside...which I took  ;) Then I had Axel's car to contend with and I was pushing him hard. I think that he allowed me to pass? or missed a gear change, but I was through and able to start chasing Sam who I could see up ahead.

It was all going well with Axel and Iestyn coming along for the ride and the gap to Sam was coming down....until one of my pistons decided to part company with the crankshaft. I think that was the result of a couple of fluffed downshifts going into T1, so probably deserved.
Grats to the finishers and commiserations to all the other discos.

Thanks for compliments, it's a emotion win a race with your league
Like wrote before the race there are some problem with fall FPS, I partially solved with lite version of track, so rarely happened in race, sometimes at T6 (Vias turn) and in T1 but this only at the first lap after start, No optimal my guideline through the T1 'cause low fps and I spin after the apex when I heard a light touch but I hoped is not a cause for the Bot's abandonment, sorry if this was a cause
Past the danger of the T1, the only careful were not to kiss the rails.. thanks for race and compliments all drivers that saw the checkered flag and particular mention at the lapped drivers (no sure this word is correct, google trans.. lol) very correctly

p.s. in the replay's folder for download I see only Zolder and Panchine, no this last race

I downloaded the small montjuich version with fixes and no freeze this time. First finish on that track.
It was very lonely, i got stuck in the lap 1 carnage shortly. Some car layed already down,i braked on realising and turned to the left where was more space,
but i touched someones car and spun.

Server replay now available via the link in the race announcement.

I would appreciate some incident reports for the lap 1 pile-up between T1 and T2 complete with CLIENT REPLAYS so the moderating team can see who was affected by warp and lag.  We already have the server replay but any "car explosions" caused by warp, lag or an over-zealous GPL collision box are best examined on client replays.

Pleased to see that several people got around the low FPS (and probably potential screen freeze issues) by using the Lite version of the track.  Probably wise to only use the Hi-Resolution version if you have a very high end system.

No compliments on your race coming from this corner. Or Tris' or Andy's, I'd expect.  ??? :o :-X >:(

I wrote a long race report last night of my extremely short race and deleted before posting.
Basically, me, Dean and Tris were unlucky and everyone else was lucky.
The Ferrari shape seemed to survive better than the open wheelers.

Since i'm in munich again this week i can upload my replay on Sunday.

Sixth & a few team points is about as good as it will get for me on a mixed grid. 66 races do seem to have quite a high attrition rate, especially when you throw in a few screen freezes. My connection was fine.
I basically parked up behind the T1/T2 crash fest, waited for a gap & carried on. There was a good battle with Dave R & Fran for much of the race but both lost their engines within a couple of laps. I could just about match Bastian's pace but a spin at T1 meant he was out of sight.

I have seen the replay, unfortunately can only say I sorry for what happened
I race after I heard a knock but in the rear on my car so I have not worried too much, I don't see that Bot were inside yet otherwise I don't close to my right
Hope you submit a report of incident, sorry and sorry again guys

Thanks to those who have submitted a report so far, it does help the moderator to know the drivers perspective of what happened before moderating the race.  I'm hoping for a couple more reports to be submitted before I moderate the race this weekend.  If anyone doesn't know how to submit a report, just click on the link entitled "Submit an incident report" below the race results table and a form will appear.

Moderation published. 

Commiserations to Alessandro but his time will come (probably in the next race!)

Honestly thought at worst punishment  ;D :angel:
like I wrote, in the frenzy of that track I don't saw Tristan inside of me but I thought him in the back of my car, I have mistake and I pay, It is absolutely right and your rules is not too severe
Usually I am a correct driver with few incidents in other league in the past but GPL don't allows minimum contact (in past I did championship with Power & Glory and this is my first champ with you and GPL)

We all are here for fun and is not primary interest to win a race or maybe win champ for me, my target is to battle in "gentleman mode", after than I have see the replay and have see to ruined race of some drivers  my morale was under the shoes, sorry again guys for last race and for my poor english also  :angel: