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Title: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Mark J on June 29, 2017, 08:02:57 PM +0100
Password: see above (#post_event_password) (released 24hrs before the race)

Round 9 - Nurburgring GP - Sprint Round

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June 21st - Password entry (on day of race)

Practise: 19:30 (45 mins)
Qual: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30 21 Laps (approx 40mins)

Cars allowed:
Gt3 class cars

Optional skin pack (if you have not already downloaded from round1)  https://mkurv989.stackstorage.com/s/bXprz5TFRBM9jhr (https://mkurv989.stackstorage.com/s/bXprz5TFRBM9jhr)  Courtesy of Maikel.

Track:  Nurburgring GP - GT Layout

Live Timing: stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat (http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat)

Time of Day Setting: 15:00
Weather: Mid-Clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: Not required

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=100
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=0
SESSION_TRANSFER=N/a

Damage: 70%

Password: see above (#post_event_password)

PLP App - Not used in this series. Cutting will be monitored on replay and penalties issued for excessive cutting.

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules[/quote]
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (http://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=600)

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Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: nfsw55 on June 29, 2017, 08:22:55 PM +0100

Round 9 - Nurburgring GP - Endurance Round


Race: 20:30 TBC Laps (approx 60mins)



Race 9 should be a sprint round iirc


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Mark J on June 29, 2017, 10:34:06 PM +0100
1st post edited to a sprint round. I couldn't see my own calendar earlier thanks to photobucket deciding to change their hosting rules this far down the line  ::) and I have replaced the image links as they disappeared too  >:(

The last round at Barcelona will be a fitting end with an endurance.   :)  This will be a frantic sprint  ;)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Gavino Pintus on July 01, 2017, 02:15:40 PM +0100
I'm in


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Felix Simoes on July 01, 2017, 03:36:26 PM +0100
Count me in!  :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Bob on July 01, 2017, 03:50:32 PM +0100
Me also, somewhere at the back.  :yes:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Mark J on July 01, 2017, 05:06:05 PM +0100
I'm in too  ;)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Maikel K. on July 01, 2017, 06:17:13 PM +0100
I'm in aswell


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: spanner on July 01, 2017, 07:12:24 PM +0100
Mee too


Hmm..times a little bit slower than before.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Jeffrey on July 01, 2017, 09:00:06 PM +0100
Bumping this thread back on the list :).


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Jeffrey on July 02, 2017, 11:26:48 AM +0100
Are the grip levels lower on the SRou server? Times are a lot slower than they were at the CORE race.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: nfsw55 on July 02, 2017, 12:37:23 PM +0100
Are the grip levels lower on the SRou server? Times are a lot slower than they were at the CORE race.

Just joined our server and it says 100% track grip, maybe different temperatures?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Simon Gymer on July 02, 2017, 10:01:04 PM +0100
I'm in. Please can I switch to the Porsche as I'm racing it at Core and I'm fed up with the AMG which I can not for the life of me get to grips with on setup. Don't care what skin, I can't see it from the inside anyway, anything but pink.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Manteos on July 02, 2017, 10:04:20 PM +0100
I'm in too. I'll let you know if Massimo will join it ;)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on July 03, 2017, 07:34:42 AM +0100
Yes, i'll be there too.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: nfsw55 on July 03, 2017, 02:13:54 PM +0100
Count me in too


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: phspok on July 03, 2017, 02:20:34 PM +0100
Meeeee tooo


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Baikal on July 03, 2017, 03:16:39 PM +0100
Meeeee tooo
SSSaaaameee heeeeerrrrrreeee  :laugh:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Manteos on July 03, 2017, 07:15:03 PM +0100
Unfortunately Massimo Bonni will not race  :(


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Maikel K. on July 03, 2017, 07:31:10 PM +0100
I'm in offcourse.

Are the grip levels lower on the SRou server? Times are a lot slower than they were at the CORE race.

Haven't notice any difference in grip.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: FullMetalGasket on July 03, 2017, 07:45:32 PM +0100
I love Nurby GP, so I'm in


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Mark J on July 03, 2017, 08:18:30 PM +0100
thanks all for notifying of your intention to race  :) however, because of the splitters that left  :-* we have enough spaces for all the keen racers to see it to the end anyway.

Simon, you are now in a Porsche, Your skin is 03_racing_910


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Mark J on July 04, 2017, 08:26:41 AM +0100
i am only 3.4 secs a lap slower than Gavino  :surrender: :helpsmilie:  Drives me mad not being able to close that gap a little  :'( but even other porkers are beasting me so cant blame the car, must be my setup  :whistling:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Mark J on July 04, 2017, 10:08:38 AM +0100
Lots of battles still to be won with 2 rounds remaining :fencing: (blimey that series went quickly).  :)

Maikel, Manteos and bimbo Nos are in a close fight for 2nd place, with nfsw v Felix and Baikal in a fight to finish in the top 5.
Felix, myself and Shark are fighting for a top 10 finish with only a few points between us.

Then it's pretty much everyone from 13th to 24th in a close points fight so every position counts!

En garde!  :fencing:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Simon Gymer on July 04, 2017, 11:00:39 AM +0100
Felix, myself and Shark are fighting for a top 10 finish with only a few points between us.
LOL. You have higher expectations than me! I was trying to stay in the top 20!  ;D :P


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Mark J on July 04, 2017, 11:59:39 AM +0100
Felix, myself and Shark are fighting for a top 10 finish with only a few points between us.
LOL. You have higher expectations than me! I was trying to stay in the top 20!  ;D :P

9th and 10th are up for grabs  :)

http://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=600&theme=4


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Simon Gymer on July 04, 2017, 01:08:12 PM +0100
9th and 10th are up for grabs  :)

LOL, considering the names in the top 10, my only goal is to finish ahead of you. I suspect with my switch the pork-pie that all I will be doing is spinning more often, but having more fun doing so!  :o ;D


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: SRW on July 04, 2017, 11:38:38 PM +0100
unfortunately real life will get in the way of my virtual racing career tomorrow night, but I should be around for next weeks race.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: FullMetalGasket on July 05, 2017, 06:43:37 AM +0100
Please check I have the right car tonight Mark, I'm worried you might not see me  ;)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Mark J on July 05, 2017, 09:07:25 AM +0100
Please check I have the right car tonight Mark, I'm worried you might not see me  ;)

Don't worry, you are in the pink panzer  ;D


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Baikal on July 05, 2017, 12:59:29 PM +0100
Things looks like i am is going to chill. So if i'll be absent in my local deepest night - sorry. But i am in hope  :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Felix Simoes on July 05, 2017, 07:26:30 PM +0100
I am unable to find the server. Did anything change since yesterday?

EDIT: Found it  ;D


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: picnic on July 05, 2017, 07:32:38 PM +0100
Should be there now Felix, I was in the process of restarting it for the race tonight


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Manteos on July 05, 2017, 08:50:55 PM +0100
Connection lost during quali. Connection lost during the race. Cars flying over me. What a shame >:( >:(
And I guess I'll not be able to race next week.

Wood metal for me this year I guess  ;D


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: picnic on July 05, 2017, 09:07:55 PM +0100
Disaster here too, after a few laps I couldn't do T2 either the car span out on entry or when I applied power even when I was tip-toeing through it. Anyway meant I left one lap earlier than I might have as just after I quit my Internet decided to recycle its connection so I would have been dumped out anyway :(


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Baikal on July 05, 2017, 09:20:51 PM +0100
Admins, what value in CLIENT_SEND_INTERVAL_HZ= we have in UKAC servers?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Simon Gymer on July 05, 2017, 09:27:52 PM +0100
Apparently 6 laps practice last night was all I needed to have a good race this week. No mistakes for me for the first time in a long time and despite the late pressure from NFSW (flashing lights ain't going to work on an old codger like me, it just makes me think there is something wrong with the electrics of your car, or perhaps you're driving something Italian ;) ;)) I came home in a totally unexpected 4th.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Gavino Pintus on July 05, 2017, 09:39:17 PM +0100
This track layout is very fun. I love the last chicane.

QUALIFYING
Good qualyifing for me. With the race fuel I start from the 2nd place.

RACE
I never tried the start, so I've only tried to avoid mistakes. After my tyres warm up then I realize was faster than Matteo and Maikel BUT, overtake is very difficult.
Futhermore in the 3rd lap I lost the position from Maikel. Good overtake mate!

After this I've only tried to reduce my tyre wear, in order to be more aggressive in the second part of the race.
And mission accomplished  ;D

Maikel lap after lap was in trouble with its rear tyres, so I can use my lambo's horsepower. But the overtake was fantastic in the turn 3 because the Maikel's fairness was incredible. I think everyone must see this kind of overtake and learn how to fight. Congratulations.

Lap by lap I've increased my space between me and Maikel, so I can reach the chequered flag without problems.
Congrats to all the drivers and for Matteo was a shame because was very fast.

See you!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Maikel K. on July 05, 2017, 09:46:56 PM +0100
Phew, pretty epic race that was. Couldn't get a really good lap in qualli so started behind the 2 Lambo's. Followed them for a few laps until somethung strange happened. Gavino made a little mistake  :o  ;D
So i couldn't resist and move up into the inside and onto p2. Then a few corners later Matteo spun out and I was first. Had the difficult job of keeping Gavino behind me. I had to change my lines abit and focus on the exits. Had a few close battles until the tyres gave out. After that the pace in the fezza dropped very quickly and I saw Gavino drive into the distance. Guess tyre management isn't the Ferraris strong point ( nor mine for that matter )  8)

Was still a very intense race.

Shame the battle for 2nd got kinda decided with a disco.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Mark J on July 05, 2017, 10:42:32 PM +0100
Another fantastic race of this series with plenty of action throughout   :)

Qually was intense, I was really hoping to squeeze in the top 6 but Simon somehow found 2 seconds since his meagre practise last night. I set a new pb at 1:56.2 but wasn't enough.

I then made an error by forgetting to apply my qually tweaks to my race setup and struggled throughout the race with bad understeer  :'(
Got a good race start and kept close to shark ahead but had Stefans Ferrari attacking me throughout the first two laps allowing shark to pull a gap that I was never able to close, especially once FMG caught me in the pink panzer. From then on until race end we had a great race long battle  :fencing: I kept him behind for ages but eventually the pressure told and I got more ragged, finally going a tad deep at the hairpin allowing the Nisan to power through. Surprisingly I thought he would then be able to scamper away but he seemed unable too and I was glued to his wide pink derrière for over half the race but unable to find a way past.
We were both suffering with shot tyres at the end and it looked great seeing the big Nissan moving about on its tyres. We crossed the line within tenths of each other, brilliant championship and race fight  8) shame I was behind tho  :'(
Final punch in the groin was Nfsw letting my other championship rival get a 4th place finish ahead  :wetfish:

Congrats again to the mesmeric Gavino  :notworthy: and the podium finishers. Thanks also to all who raced  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Manteos on July 05, 2017, 10:45:30 PM +0100
Then a few corners later Matteo spun out and I was first.

Lol really?  ;D I was in a solid first place in the imaginary race I was leading  ;D

In the first two laps it seemed most like 'Star Trek' to me, with yours Ferrari and Lambo spacecraft that from time to time flew over me at Warp drive and everybody disappeared  ;D ;D ;D
This sketch has repeated for about three or four times with me asking Gavino on TS if I was still on the server. Then everybody disappeared for the last time and the message: "The server seems to be unavailable" elucidated this situation clearly enough  :dots:

Hope to be able to do the last but I'm not so sure of it...

See you  :)



Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Simon Gymer on July 05, 2017, 10:51:47 PM +0100
Qually was intense, I was really hoping to squeeze in the top 6 but Simon somehow found 2 seconds since his meagre practise last night. I set a new pb at 1:56.2 but wasn't enough.
A) another 3 laps practice before qualifying.  :P
B) soft tyres!

You'll notice that our best race lap was almost identical on mediums, although I guess I was probably a lot more consistent and able to make that pace the whole race than you (to be ahead).


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Baikal on July 06, 2017, 10:54:12 AM +0100
I love this track so much so when i see that car behavior is soo different ( too slippery) in GP sessions and i can't stay on any turn- my hands is going down. Tonight this AC shit happens again. And i don't know what to do with it. I asking again, just for interest, Pete and Mark what  value in CLIENT_SEND_INTERVAL_HZ= we have in UKAC servers? ( file server.cfg). Practically it must to be not more than 18. On other  rackservice.org server , in our league, we set it to 15 and this bug is seems to see fixed . But not sure. May be it's just placebo.
Anyway i am thinking can i drive in such good community like UKAC or not. :'(


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: picnic on July 06, 2017, 11:07:14 AM +0100
Sorry Alexey I meant to look earlier when I did the results and forgot :(

Looks like ours has always been set to 20. What's the logic behind using a lower value? Is it simply it manifests itself as a perceived grip bug or are there other reasons?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Baikal on July 06, 2017, 11:33:07 AM +0100
Sorry Alexey I meant to look earlier when I did the results and forgot :(

Looks like ours has always been set to 20. What's the logic behind using a lower value? Is it simply it manifests itself as a perceived grip bug or are there other reasons?
My own investigation is staying on AC experience ( i remember the times when in AC beginning we ( and Kunos) was experimenting in these values and it brings many differences with cars sinc \ packets receiving\ overall performances in game. In my case it's just an idea that if use lower value- car sinc\ MP smoothing alghorithms will be working not so hard and may be its brings more stability in case of mine and other guys who has this "low grip" MP issue.. This moment is only way to continue to drive in AC.. All is my IMHO .
BTW as i remember, default value is 18 ( recomended by Kunos) . I can't ask you to set it to 15-16 ( pilots will not see any differencies here) but i can ask set it to 18.  :)
Anyway we have a big differencies in car handling when MP online\ lan mode with same settings. It's in fact. Earlier in AC was the same. Not now...


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: spanner on July 06, 2017, 12:15:17 PM +0100
Why would that have any affect on car grip levels? Is it not just the frequency it updates the car positions? You drivnng and grip levels, sliding is determined on your PC?

Again it felt like the tyres were a few degs different when driving compared to previous testing so decided to try out softs in qually and went over a sec quicker which surprised me. Should have stayed with them in the race as my times were nowhere near what I had been doing even in the race-practise session when driving on mediums.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: picnic on July 06, 2017, 01:04:23 PM +0100
A lower update rate on all the other cars may give your PC more time to process your own physics. This could also explain the difference you're seeing Spanner. It's not until race night you're on the server with more than 2 or 3 other cars.

I'm happy to try other values just wary of doing so in league races. These sort of things need a test race IMHO. Although it might help people with less favourable pings or slower PCs I'd still want to know it didn't create problems for those that have none at the moment, for example the cars jumping around more as the updates are less frequent.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Baikal on July 06, 2017, 01:51:04 PM +0100
Although it might help people with less favourable pings or slower PCs I'd still want to know it didn't create problems for those that have none at the moment, for example the cars jumping around more as the updates are less frequent.
I have no probs with PC performance and have 110 and higher fps in race. With less hz we shouldn't see any visual problems with cars moving because new Kunos opponent car prediction alghoritm is working ) 


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Mark J on July 06, 2017, 02:28:51 PM +0100
You sure it wasn't just your own connection being a bit dodgy Alexey? I saw your car doing some weird warping and manoeuvres on track from my own cockpit  :-\ I remember thinking where's he going? When your car took weird tangents  ;D


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: Baikal on July 06, 2017, 02:56:58 PM +0100
You sure it wasn't just your own connection being a bit dodgy Alexey? I saw your car doing some weird warping and manoeuvres on track from my own cockpit  :-\ I remember thinking where's he going? When your car took weird tangents  ;D
May be, my friend, may be )  I always controlling my ping and yesterday it was't be criminal. But such strange car behavior ( when i can't go on track like i traned before) is not must to have dependency of ping, when i am is my own cockpit and driving a car, isn't it? So , strange things still here  :)  So sorry that Kunos is calm about this problems.. So sorry that i can't tell him in official AC forum due my bad english... And so sorry that i living so far from European servers  ;D


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Blancpain - Round 9 - Nurburgring - Jul 5
Post by: FullMetalGasket on July 06, 2017, 05:34:32 PM +0100
especially once FMG caught me in the pink panzer. From then on until race end we had a great race long battle  :fencing: I kept him behind for ages but eventually the pressure told and I got more ragged, finally going a tad deep at the hairpin allowing the Nisan to power through. Surprisingly I thought he would then be able to scamper away but he seemed unable too and I was glued to his wide pink derrière for over half the race but unable to find a way past.
We were both suffering with shot tyres at the end and it looked great seeing the big Nissan moving about on its tyres. We crossed the line within tenths of each other, brilliant championship and race fight  8) shame I was behind tho  :'(

Although it certainly didn't feel like it at the time, I actually passed you about 5 laps from the end having chased for for the majority!
As I was on softs I think you made your mistake at about the last point in the race that I would be able to take advantage, I was able to scarper only briefly before my tires fell off a cliff and I started to make errors and slow back into your hands.
The big Nissan felt great  (GGGGRRRRRRReat?) though with my setup as it was squirming around all over the shop  ;D
I watched the replay of our battle in full before bed and was enjoying the spectacle of me fighting the lard bucket through the tighter corners and particularly over the kurbs in the Schumacher esses from in car with you 8)

I think it's doing about the same laptimes as the Lambo had been for me but is just so much nicer to drive I can actually push it and chuck it around a bit  :angel: