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For season 4 of AC's championships, we go 40 years back in time to race the Porsche RSR 3.0.

(https://s23.postimg.org/y255n1lq3/Screenshot_ks_porsche_911_carrera_rsr_ks_silvers.jpg)

The championship will consist of 6 rounds, raced on the following tracks:

- Round 1 (July 26th): Silverstone 67
- Round 2 (August 2nd) : Bridgehampton (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/bridgehampton-race-circuit.6604/)
- Round 3 (August 9th): Vallelunga
- Round 4 (August 16th): Riverside (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/riverside-international-raceway.9492/)
- Round 5 (August 23rd): Poznan (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/tor-pozna%C5%84.6118/)
- Round 6 (August 30th): Mugello

Download them individually (click on the names above), or get them all in one TRACKPACK (https://www.dropbox.com/s/241y9qgxgu9qtq2/Trackpack.rar?dl=0)



Points table:-

1st = 30pts
2nd = 25
3rd = 20
4th = 17
5th = 15
6th = 13
7th = 11
8th = 9
9th = 7
10th = 6
11th = 5
12th = 4
13th = 3
14th = 2
15th = 1

You must finish at least 50% of the race to qualify for points.


Qualification procedure:

Only 1 timed lap allowed. So that's 1 outlap, 1 hotlap and then pit in. Aborting a hotlap will be seen as a completed hotlap, so only 1 hotlap attempt allowed.  Doing more hotlaps will result in disqualification. Qualification session length is 5 minutes.


Race length

30 Minutes


Driver list:
1) Jeffrey - #54 Jagermeister Kremer (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/ks-porsche-911-rsr-j%C3%A4germeister-kremer.12432/)
2) Mark Jonzo - Kremer Vaillant (https://www.dropbox.com/s/wxlbcdkjrmudmyb/rsr%20skins.rar?dl=0)
3) ChrisR - #60 (Black/black)
4) Gavino Pintus - #74 (orange)
5) Maikel K - #32 Max Moritz Fotoquelle - Reinhardt Stenzel - DRM 1975 (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/porsche-911-rsr-max-moritz-fotoquelle-reinhardt-stenzel-drm-1975.12554/)
6) Spanner - #16 (Lime)
7) Frex - #25 (white)
8 ) Manteos - #11 (grey) (First 2 rounds)
9) Picnic - #41 (blue)
10) Postal - # 47 Gulf Racing (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/ks-porsche-911-rsr-gulf-racing.12517/)
11) Felix Simoes - #1 Red with white doors
12) FullMetalGasket - #34 Louis Meznarie - Hubert Striebig - 4h du Mans 1974 (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/porsche-911-rsr-louis-meznarie-hubert-striebig-4h-du-mans-1974.12912/)
13) Baikal - #57 (White)
14) nfsw55 - #37 (purple)
15) PippoPelo - #52 (brown) From Vallelunga onwards
16) phspok - #75 (white/red)
17) Sutol - Porsche_RSR_Esso_v1
18) Goldtop - #14 Brown
19) Giuseppe Reali - #17 (yellow)
20) Alfrance - #44 (green)


SKINPACK (https://www.dropbox.com/s/l8seg034ys16r57/Skinpack.rar?dl=0)

Maximum grid slots:

Silverstone 1967: 20
Bridgehampton: 24
Vallelunga: 24
Riverside: 24
Poznan: 40
Mugello: 24

Please give a heads up if you want to join and state your prefered car number (skin) or link your personal livery.

Count me in  :). Skin tbc

I have a lot of good historic skins for the RSR, can upload it as a skinpack to my Dropbox folder if interested?

Skin pack is more than welcome.

Ill join :)

I'm in.
The car is angry enough  ;D

I'm in aswell

Ok, what ever the bright green one is!

I see you've included bridgehampton again. Did seem to catch people out last time we ran it.

Count me in please.

Did we ever run Bridgehampton here? I know we did a fun race at Riverside and although tricky, I think people liked it. Atleast they already had practice this time :D.

MJ, none of my business, I know, but only 5 mins for qualy, even for one hot lap, could become fractious with 15+ drivers all trying to get a clear run. Just saying.

It's not as bad as it seems. Even when a lap takes 2 minutes, you can go out of the pits with 2:01 on the clock. As long as you are on a hotlap before time runs out, you can complete it.

So it's not required to all rush out as soon as the pitlight turns green. There is an element of strategy involved in timing your hotlap. They used 10 minutes at GRC with grids of 30 cars and that was perfectly fine, but what I can remember was people either went out immediatly, or at the latest moment. So when I went out halfway through, I had a clear track :).

It requires people being sensible, but if for whatever reason it becomes a nightmare, then I can reconsider 10 minutes for round 2.

Not my idea Tony and I don't agree with it personally. Bit gimmicky for these tricky cars but then the fun is in the racing  :)

Im actually like the idea, It puts pressure on and will mix the starting positions. Whether or not it will work for this car... i dont know. We shall see.

What happens if you do your outlap then mess up your hotlap? Can you start again as long as you dont postca time? Or do you have 2 laps (out and hot) abd thats it.

I'm also not sure if it will work with this car, but the pressure and the mixing is what I'm aiming at.


It's 1 hotlap attempt, so if you are on a hotlap and mess that up, then it's not allowed to ESC back to pits and retry. rFactor always showed broken laps as completed laps, but I have no idea how AC does it.

They dont count them at all iirc.

Put me down for a slot please. Not in a position to check skins just now so will select something in a couple of days.

Good to see all the interest already  :)

i'll have #60 (black/black)

Cool. I am in. Skin tbc.

Looks like i am back home on the day of the first race. Will probably be knackered, but will sort something of a setup out for the first race this week then.  ::)

Count me in too. I'll let you know which skin to use later.  :)

Definitely in - about time we had a proper car with actual gears instead of all these girly paddles :P

I'll get back to you on skins as I've only just seen this thread.... (Was at Brands all weekend)

This one for me please:
Louis Meznarie - Hubert Striebig - 24h du Mans 1974
http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/porsche-911-rsr-louis-meznarie-hubert-striebig-4h-du-mans-1974.12912/ (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/porsche-911-rsr-louis-meznarie-hubert-striebig-4h-du-mans-1974.12912/)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5446/31362208955_ef4c21ea77_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PMnw5B)

Hi all  :) I am in (If I do not oversleep)   ;)
18_kunosracing_57 . ( stock skin white with number 57)

Jeffrey- if race 30 minutes so may be laps race?

Races should be 30 minutes, so it all depends on the leader  ;).

I'll probably suck at driving this car, but I'll give it a try  ;D
Stock skin #37 for me please, if possible.

http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/porsche-911-rsr-max-moritz-fotoquelle-reinhardt-stenzel-drm-1975.12554/

Bright flashy green. Very retro  8)

I'm gonna go with the Jagermeister skin: http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/ks-porsche-911-rsr-j%C3%A4germeister-kremer.12432/

(http://lava-studios.com/downloads/AssettoCorsa/Previews/KS_Porsche_911_RSR_Jaegermeister_Kremer.jpg)

Not sure if it was here, but I can remember somebody being fan of the Jagermeister skins, if so, let me know and I will swap, as I found plenty of alternatives:

Ecurie Robert Buchet - Bob Wollek - Imola 1974 (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/porsche-911-rsr-ecurie-robert-buchet-bob-wollek-imola-1974.12697/)
Montura / DeNarvaez (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/porsche-911-carrera-rsr-montura-denarvaez.13104/)
Martini (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/ks-porsche-911-rsr-martini.12559/)
Armor All (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/porsche-911-rsr-armor-all.12570/)
Group Brükmann (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/porsche-911-carrera-rsr-group-br%C3%BCkmann.13062/)
Gulf Racing (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/ks-porsche-911-rsr-gulf-racing.12517/)
Harper's Bazaar 94 (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/porsche-911-3-0-rsr-harpers-bazaar-94.12756/)

If possible, I'd like to use the #1 skin (red with white doors)

The Gulf Racing No. 47 livery for me please, if you did not plan to run this skin MJ!  :angel:

http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/ks-porsche-911-rsr-gulf-racing.12517/ (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/ks-porsche-911-rsr-gulf-racing.12517/)

I'm going to take either the Kremer Vaillant skin or the Swinford Motors skin  8)  I'll give them a quick try tonight and take my pick  :)

Here are some of my saved skins, wasn't as many as I thought but added to Jeffs list will give a very tasty grid :-
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wxlbcdkjrmudmyb/rsr%20skins.rar?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/wxlbcdkjrmudmyb/rsr%20skins.rar?dl=0)

Extract to your content\cars\porsche rsr\ folder.

Count me in! I will not be able to attend at least 1 round due to summer holiday at the same time, but hopefully can do the rest. Will decide on a skin at some other point. 1 lap qualifying...hilarious...like it. ;D They should bring that back in F1!

My only problem is that I usually use qualifying for practice so now I'm really screwed! ;D ;D ;D ;D

When I see purple names pop up in chat during the race, I always know it's you improving your pb's during the race as that's also your practice  ;D

;D yep. it means I nearly always finish higher than I start so that's my secret tip to anyone that wants to feel like they've done well!  :)

If you do no practice you have no expectation of what you feel you should be qualifying or racing against others! nice!

Just give me the blue one from the game please, #43 I think it is?

This car is very difficult to drive than rare formulas but fun through suffering  :)
This car is done only for high skill pilots racing :) I am not but will try to stay in lines  :D
This car is very brittle for damage. Car contacts will be non avoidable ( it's a live)
Jeffrey- please test the damage percents in options and take a wise decision and public it . I would prefer 10 percents or less ( joke)  ;D
This car has a brakes temperature phisics. Need to be very very gentle in race beginning ( 10x gentle than in GT3)  ;)
This car has a tyres which has a maximal performance  for 1-2 first laps only. ( so, 5 min of qualy will be ok)
Jeffrey - please tell the posible tracks conditions and track grip (IMHO 100)
Waiting for champ begin!  I am in positive! :yes:
PS. May be a second race with grid reversed? Now AC is supporting it by server option. 8)
We have next wed for test it   :)
Server.cfg option: REVERSED_GRID_RACE_POSITIONS=8 ; 0 = no additional race, 1toX = only those position will be reversed for the next race, -1 = all the position will be reversed (Retired players will be on the last positions)

PPS. Pete, please 18 hz ( you know)  :)

Very last PS. This champ need a PR in Kunos site and others. This car is waiting for lovers! Please PR this to brings more fanats of true hardcore!  I don't want to be the last of 10... :)

100% grip with 26c would be pretty good imo.

Agree if it brings an optimal tyre condition in 30 min race in champ combos   :) I am ( imho- we all)  not a masohist (s) here  ;D

2 x 20 with reverse grid the 2nd race? Not sure if it would fit the tracks to have such a shorter race. But the DTM series @ Core had it for some races and it worked really well. Shuffles up the field abit.

1st race - 15-20 min, 2nd race 30 mins  ;)

i hate the 2 race type, just one race at around 30 mins is my preference.

2 short races is a recipe for desperate racing and the second race invariably annoys the slower drivers as the better drivers are amazingly good at "not expecting you to brake there!"

I also vote for just one race

Hehe ))) Ok Ok guys :) I just dreamed about more challenge spirit  ::)
This 2 race reverse format was sucessfully tested and funed earlyer ) But Ok. I appreciate an english concervatism here  :) 

I don't mind one or two races fwiw  :) mid pack warriors won't notice the difference with a reverse grid  ;D

Same here ) And to all the rest I'm used to races 1,5-2 hours and 30 minutes seems to me not enough to be satisfied completely  :D

Damage will be standard 70%. That way it will be somewhat forgiving, but not too, so people need to be cautious and wait another lap for that move instead of a do or die.


The conditions Chris said. I don't want to make this series more complicated than necessary, as it's a short series to overcome the summer weeks. As long as the tyres don't overheat at 26 degrees, it will be 100% grip and 26 degrees C. In possible future series, I'm tempted to change those settings and use more realistic numbers, but not for this one.



Using reversed grid crossed my mind, but I opted not to, for multiple reasons. I didn't want to give Pete more workload as it is. I'm still getting into grips with server settings etcetera. If I can do everything myself, then I might do it in the future, but only if I think it adds something. Besided that, I don't expect full grids for this series, which can result in people being seconds off pace getting pole position for race 2. That's a recipe for an incident filled race and the pole man will be just a mobile chicane/nuisance and not have a chance for the win. And that, IMO, takes away the reason for thinking of reversed grids, giving somebody else a proper chance for a win.
In simracing the pace difference is a lot bigger than in real life, so it doesn't work as well as it does there.


I have no idea what this does, if others can tell me if this is fine to do?


Now that the GT3 is over, I can use the thread at the assetto corsa forum to promote the RSR series, but I'm gonna wait till 1 week in advance, or people will just forget  :D.


CORE had bigger grids and a bit more equal field, pace wise. The qualification will shuffle the grid up a bit, but not too much that it will be a cluster.


Exactly this, give this man a cookie  :yes: .


More challenge? Green track and 10 degrees sound good ;)?


Do you race the full 1,5-2 hours, or do you wake up at the 1 hour mark and drive the last part? In that case, this won't feel any different  ;D

EDIT: Incident reports need to be filed before the first Saturday after the race as I will be reviewing them on Saturday. Unless I'm involved myself (then I'm automatically innocent).

Give us back our Legzy's tokens  ;D ;D ;D

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6860.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6860.0)

"Do you race the full 1,5-2 hours, or do you wake up at the 1 hour mark and drive the last part? In that case, this won't feel any different"
Races when i drived 1,5-2 hours was so challenged and sometimes it was battles from beginning to very last laps. Russian guys is so purposeful!  ;)

After a long time i come back guys  ;)

i will take part from Vallelunga until the end

Welcome back,  can you pm me your steam GUID and in-game name and your skin choice, either stock or custom.

For me livery n°11 stock please.

Thank you:)

Stock skin #25 for me please.

count me in, I should be available for most of the races, not fussed which skin I have

Can everybody who hasn't got a skin please tell me which one they want, or else you'll be assigned to any stock skin. I want to upload a skinpack and once that is done, I will not keep reuploading the skinpack for every new skin people send.

Kremer Vaillant skin for me (turquoise green).  8)

Uhm, which one is that  :P? I see a Kremer skin, but that's blue.

I'm at work so can't check the skin name but it's this car https://goo.gl/images/vP8bs1 (https://goo.gl/images/vP8bs1)

That's nothing like the default Kremer skin in game. Is it a downloadable one? One from your skin pack? Did you ever post a link to your fabled skin pack?

I think that's not a stock skin, so can you please provide a link to it :).

ahem, page 3 of this thread, post 1  :detective:  that'll be my pack of 12 skins  ;)  my chosen skin is in that, called 'Kremer-Vaillant_1975  8)

Thanks Mark, I thought you probably had but I couldn't see it when I raced through the topic looking for it  :-[

Think Jeff was going to combine it with his skins and create a super pack  :) plenty of nice period correct skins in there.  8)

I'm just going to put all the custom skins in 1 skin pack. So of your skinpack I just take the skin you selected and put it in my skinpack.

For me any skin is fine Jeff

Sign me up. #11 - Skin stock

Welcome Peyo  :). Manteos has the nr 11 reserved, so please pick another one :).

Thanks man.

69 then, if it's taken put a random one.

Hey Mateo, out of curiosity why you are picking 11 as # I see this as a trend? :)

Please can you add me Pete? any spare skin is good thanks

Porsche_RSR_Esso_v1 from Mark's historic skin pack please.

@Mark, could you please take me off the entry list for this series, getting up to speed with organising races is taking up a lot of my time, when we were racing GT3's it wasn't such a problem because I could jump in on race night with no practice and stay out of peoples way, but these beasts require more practice to be able to jump in and stay out of peoples way.

It's Jeff who's running this lot ;) I know how you feel though, I've never raced at this track nor have I even loaded it in to AC yet! Tonight might be interesting.

 

I also listen to the name "Mark", so he is removed from the list ;).

Yo, Mr Boss man, can you please remove me from the championship, these cars are just not for me.

Thanks.

Lol, sure np :).

Is there a place where we can see the series standings?

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=610&theme=4 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=610&theme=4)

You can get to this under the Series heading in the banner (A4P is the series).

Another way of getting there, on every race thread, just above the result (if they are posted) there is a line with bold letters that says something like:

Yesterday at 07:24:52 PM - Bridgehampton - UKAC Season 4 Porsche Cup

That's what is says above yesterday's race. If you click the last part (UKAC Season 4 Porsche Cup) it sends you directly to the standings page, just scroll down a bit.

Thanks guys. It never occurred to me to click on the title  :angel:

Now that this series is over and was my first time organizing a series, I'd like to know what you guys wanna see differently in the future.

I'm mostly sulking over having to drive a (proper) RSR in a season that didn't contain the Nordschliefe  :P

Struggling to criticise otherwise. I quite enjoyed the qualifying chaos even though I fell foul of the rules on 2 separate occasions  ;D

Well, for the next series we are driving a race car almost purposely build for the Green Hell, but we are not racing there either. ;)

No seriously, i found it to be an enjoyable series. Nice car and tracks and nice folks. And a championship for us to chase some points.

No Porsche RSR!  :P :P :P
Success ballast for drivers.

I immediatly listened to you and removed the RSR for next week  :angel: .

I thought of driver ballast, but not going to use it for the next one as it was too short notice for me to test, and the series after that, which doesn't suit drive ballast. Possibly after that one, but not sure.

Same as Fmg,  the nordschlieffe would have been great in the RSR's, but otherwise a 10 round series would have been better! The cars were so much fun to chuck around a good circuit with good mechanical grip and not so aero dependant  8)

The Glicks should have been the ideal test series for the performance ballast really  :-\ can't a couple of our resident hotlappers do some quick tests with 10,20 & 30kg for starters? A single spec series has to be the best gauge of ballast impact on a car.

A Ferrari or Lambo series? Would be popular with our Italian contingent too  :)

With the limited amount of practice people have been putting in, Nordschleife would probably be a bad idea and end up with a high mortality rate :P.


I just want to see how such a series goes without ballast. If it becomes lobsided I will implement it in future series (not the one after the SCG003).


First the Glickenhaus, then some classic car which will be followed up by a Ferrari. :shifty:

Should have been double points then - that'll make people concentrate. I'd have loved the challenge, although would still expect to be lapped in a 30 mins race  ::)

Didn't expect the Nords to get any love here. I'll consider the track for the next series.

FWIW I love the Nords, but I don't like the old Porkas, I am even more carp than usual with cars that have
a cement mixer in the back, I loved the 2016 GT3 porks, but these things are masochism for me.

I hate it! ;D

It's a great hot lapping track for challenging yourself, but dreadful for having a meaningful race.

Highlight of any season for me - I've had loads of epic battles there in GPL  :P