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Title: UKAC Season 3 Historic Racing Fun race - VIR - Jul 19
Post by: Mark J on July 16, 2017, 10:20:41 AM +0100
Password: see above (#post_event_password) (released 24hrs before the race)

Porsche 908 v Ford GT40

June 21st - Password entry (on day of race)

Practise: 19:30 (45 mins)
Qual: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30 15 Laps (approx 30mins)

Cars allowed:
Porsche 908 & Ford GT40

Track: Virginia International Raceway (Full)
Track link  http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/virginia-international-raceway.11892/ (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/virginia-international-raceway.11892/)
install to your C:Program Files (x86)SteamSteamAppscommonassettocorsacontenttracks

Live Timing: stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat (http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat)

Time of Day Setting: 15:00
Weather: Clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: Not required

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=100
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=0
SESSION_TRANSFER=N/a

Damage: 70%

Password: see above (#post_event_password)

PLP App - Not used in this series. Cutting will be monitored on replay and penalties issued for excessive cutting.

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=600)



Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Historic Racing Fun race - VIR - Jul 19
Post by: Gavino Pintus on July 16, 2017, 09:37:46 PM +0100
The track is very fun and the GT40 is fantastic.
The only problem is Assetto Corsa and its ridicolous physic on the kurbs...  ;D


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Historic Racing Fun race - VIR - Jul 19
Post by: Mark J on July 16, 2017, 09:47:21 PM +0100
Top 7 times on stracker are pretty consistent for such a roller coaster track in old cars  :o would seem the gt40 has the edge though. :-\


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Historic Racing Fun race - VIR - Jul 19
Post by: Sutol on July 16, 2017, 10:29:31 PM +0100
would like to do this race, but I will be crap I warn you.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Historic Racing Fun race - VIR - Jul 19
Post by: ChrisR on July 17, 2017, 12:00:59 AM +0100
guys, is there any way we can delete times from p-tracker.. i cut across the track because i cant off and it counted my lap! lol



Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Historic Racing Fun race - VIR - Jul 19
Post by: picnic on July 17, 2017, 08:19:28 AM +0100
guys, is there any way we can delete times from p-tracker.. i cut across the track because i cant off and it counted my lap! lol
LOL - good short cut you found there ;) I've invalidated the lap time.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Historic Racing Fun race - VIR - Jul 19
Post by: Bob on July 17, 2017, 08:48:26 AM +0100
 ;D @Sutol, see you Wednesday we can be crap together but have a load of fun, by the way beware the anchor I may be throwing out of the GT40, it has no brakes! :thumbup2:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Historic Racing Fun race - VIR - Jul 19
Post by: Sutol on July 17, 2017, 11:20:10 AM +0100
;D @Sutol, see you Wednesday we can be crap together but have a load of fun, by the way beware the anchor I may be throwing out of the GT40, it has no brakes! :thumbup2:
ha ha


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Historic Racing Fun race - VIR - Jul 19
Post by: Mark J on July 17, 2017, 02:10:00 PM +0100
Will jump in the gt40 online tonight, don't think I've used it in anger yet in AC  :o so many good cars in it I havent had a chance to try out properly  :'(  these fun races are good for getting to try new cars out.  :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Historic Racing Fun race - VIR - Jul 19
Post by: ChrisR on July 17, 2017, 04:34:07 PM +0100
guys, is there any way we can delete times from p-tracker.. i cut across the track because i cant off and it counted my lap! lol
LOL - good short cut you found there ;) I've invalidated the lap time.

It still shows up and it says its valid..  is that how its supposed to be?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Historic Racing Fun race - VIR - Jul 19
Post by: Jeffrey on July 17, 2017, 05:05:16 PM +0100
It still shows up and it says its valid..  is that how its supposed to be?

It doesn't show up when I check stracker.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Historic Racing Fun race - VIR - Jul 19
Post by: ChrisR on July 17, 2017, 07:00:57 PM +0100
Oh.. thats me being a silly arse. Ahah


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Historic Racing Fun race - VIR - Jul 19
Post by: spanner on July 17, 2017, 07:46:13 PM +0100
As much as these sound like a good idea, Cant really drive either of these. My outlap clearly seems to be me driving too fast as i try and start trying to go quicker and i'm falling off all the time.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Historic Racing Fun race - VIR - Jul 19
Post by: ChrisR on July 17, 2017, 08:17:27 PM +0100
it takes a lap before the brakes are warm, so you need to drive gingerly to start with..

just take it easy and try not to drive it like a GT3 car.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Historic Racing Fun race - VIR - Jul 19
Post by: Maikel K. on July 17, 2017, 09:33:25 PM +0100
it takes a lap before the brakes are warm, so you need to drive gingerly to start with..

just take it easy and try not to drive it like a GT3 car.

Yeah, took me a few ( ok, alot  ;D ) of laps to get into the change abit. Though it is good practise for the RSR season  8)

And that instant of driving out of the pitbox the first time and then hitting the brakes. Felt like I was braking the Fred Flintstone way  ;D


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Historic Racing Fun race - VIR - Jul 19
Post by: Mark J on July 17, 2017, 10:43:01 PM +0100
after driving both I would say the GT40 is more fun to drive but harder to master for sure. If you are struggling with braking or keeping it on track then stick with the P908.

Not much you can tweak on the GT40's setup either  :-\ I gave it a bit more rear positive toe and a bit more rebound dampers front and rear to ease off the lift-off oversteer when coming off the brakes. This car doesn't like the kerbs here either, they almost drag the car off track!...is it grounding out?

As for falling off too much on your outlap, not much to say than slow down  ;) pretend its a real car and how much it would cost you to prang it,  :o that will make you drive it more carefully and build up your speed.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Historic Racing Fun race - VIR - Jul 19
Post by: frex on July 18, 2017, 09:33:10 AM +0100
Can you put me on the driver list for this please; always up for some historic racing.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Historic Racing Fun race - VIR - Jul 19
Post by: picnic on July 18, 2017, 09:38:02 AM +0100
No special drivers/entry list, it's a free for all. There will be 12 of each car available on a first come first served basis.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Historic Racing Fun race - VIR - Jul 19
Post by: frex on July 18, 2017, 09:52:43 AM +0100
Okey dokey.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Historic Racing Fun race - VIR - Jul 19
Post by: picnic on July 18, 2017, 10:35:23 AM +0100
Please my I request that drivers only join with the car choice they will race with. If you quit and rejoin I have to manually edit the result files to include only the car you actually raced. There is a high chance I'll get the edit wrong and then you might be annoyed ;) Thanks for your cooperation :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Historic Racing Fun race - VIR - Jul 19
Post by: FullMetalGasket on July 19, 2017, 06:16:17 AM +0100
I'm about 2 secs slower in the GT40 based on last night,  haven't played much with the setup yet but supprised at some of the times I see!
Will probably be in the pork as  a result,  unless I make a breakthrough after work


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Historic Racing Fun race - VIR - Jul 19
Post by: Bob on July 19, 2017, 06:41:52 PM +0100
 :'( Unable to make it tonight but hope you all have a good race.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Historic Racing Fun race - VIR - Jul 19
Post by: ChrisR on July 19, 2017, 09:23:23 PM +0100
had a great race :)

really enjoyed these cars, i know the track was a challenge but by god.. it was an excellent race. :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Historic Racing Fun race - VIR - Jul 19
Post by: Mark J on July 19, 2017, 09:29:59 PM +0100
that was good fun  :)

A tasty looking grid and it felt great having a car sliding around under you in the corners  8)  Took me a few laps to get my eye in as missed praccy before qually as I was scoffing a pizza  ;D so qually didn't go to plan and didn't match my pb's.

Got a good race start and enjoyed watching the gaggle of GT40s just ahead duking it out. I stayed close behind but on lap 6 got a spin under braking at T1  :( and lost about 11 seconds. It also put me behind sutols GT40 which was frustrating as he was costing me time in the parts of the track that the 908 had the upper hand ie..the twisties! but then blasting away from me on the straights.
But I got a good run on him after a few laps and got past then stretched a lead. Thankfully Maikel and Matteo were just ahead so I was able to have some fun again chasing them. Maikel fell off a few laps later and I was behind Matteo but then another annoying spin at T1 dropped me back another 7 secs  :taz:
Finished 5th  :)

Big congrats on the 'giant slayer' Felix  ;D winning in his nimble P908  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Historic Racing Fun race - VIR - Jul 19
Post by: Sutol on July 19, 2017, 10:32:02 PM +0100
All I was trying to do was keep it on the black stuff and apart from a minor excursion early on, I managed to do. Surprised to find Mark behind me and he hassled me for a few laps before getting a run on me out of the hair pin before the back straight. Maikel had a spin which gave me another place but then I had a lapse in concentration which nearly gave it back to him. Thank God for Armco as sfter a collision with Maikel  it kept me going in a straight line long enough to cross the line.

Hard work but very enjoyable and for once my practice paid off. Thx Chris for the set BTW


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Historic Racing Fun race - VIR - Jul 19
Post by: frex on July 20, 2017, 09:26:39 AM +0100
Really fun cars to drive, but I was probably too cautious early on and lost a place or two. Then saw a GT40 going off and spun in sympathy, and then another spin when I downshifted into the wrong gear.. Oops.

Congrats to the podium. A full series with these cars would be great..  ;)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Historic Racing Fun race - VIR - Jul 19
Post by: Maikel K. on July 20, 2017, 04:16:26 PM +0100
A fun race in the end. Had a good start and settled down behind Chris and Matteo after a while trying to get into a rythm with the car. We were pretty close until Matteo went abit off track, decided to wait for him and continue our fight as Chris was too fast so he could go chase Felix. Had a good battle with Matteo for quite a few laps as I got abit more confident with the car. A few good overtakes and one not soo good which was abit too eager  ;D
We continued for quite a while until I went way wixe and spun out on  the grass as I tried to break my pb. Got out last so I chased down Sutol for the last few laps. Got real close and had a better exit in the last corner and got close to getting second last until Sutol closed the door with my foot still stuck in between it  ;D

Good practise for the rsr's though. Takes a while to getting used to the oldtimers after racing the GT3's for a while. 8)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Historic Racing Fun race - VIR - Jul 19
Post by: FullMetalGasket on July 20, 2017, 05:38:13 PM +0100
Really enjoyed that  ;D

My years in GPL tend to show through a bit better in the old stuff too, nearly took 1st on the 2nd lap (And T1 L1 thinking about it) but despite Felix doing his best to leave me room, 2 into the flat out esses going up the hill don't really work :laugh: Thanks to Manteos for leaving room for me to slither back onto the track  :)
(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/854973111416254971/81780EBED677C155BC816DAFECD4B19E81418275/)


My experience while fighting Chris and Manteos was the opposite of Marks - I found the 908 could outrun the GT40's in the fast sectors and the back straight but was being caught in the twisty bits.
This makes sense to me as kunos gave us the lange heck variant, but might also just be down to our relative down force Vs Diff setups.
I was running with moderate preload and about 35% lock under power, with the wing and springs I was running this seemed to give the best combination of outright grip Vs ability to go round a corner!

Either way I could get some fantastic drifts going through Turns 1 and 3 when I timed it right.

Hope we revisit these cars at a later date - especially once the Ferrari pack with the P4 is released as that should be similar-ish in outright performance...
Looking forward to the RSR's more everyday!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 3 Historic Racing Fun race - VIR - Jul 19
Post by: Manteos on July 22, 2017, 11:34:18 AM +0100
Sorry for my late reply.

It was a really good race from the start to the end. I tried to chase Felix and Fmg during the first laps, but I had no pace to keep closing on them. Evenmore the Porkas was quite impossible to overtake on a straight line, unless you got the MJ 'special edition' ;D ;D
Jokes apart I had some really good fighting. I managed to defend by Chris only for a couple of laps, then he passed me with a good manouvre. I managed to pass him again, but I resisted only for another half lap, than Chris flew away.
At that point me and Maikel were on the same pace for the rest of the race, and we had some great fights exchanging our positions for a couple of times, with some great manouvres alternated by huge crashes ;D
We waited each other to have some more fights, but Maikel did a huge mistake with 3 or 4 laps to go, and seeing that the undercharged Porsche of Mark was quite closing on me, I decided that was the right time to try some final hotlaps  ;D.

Thanks for the fun. See you on Weds for the first RSR champ race ;)