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Title: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on August 10, 2017, 12:03:05 PM +0100
Who wants to do the next series after the Porsches? If nobody steps up I can run a series, but I'll decide car and tracks again and I'm not gonna do a poll, as that will just end up with mixed votes anyway.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: spanner on August 10, 2017, 12:21:34 PM +0100
I think we need that Jeff, A bit of a firm hand in control!


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: phspok on August 10, 2017, 12:35:07 PM +0100
No guarantee, but a thought is that if you stick to modern stuff Weds, there is more
reason, and likelihood that I would run historic events with older cars on the Thursday
Doesn't seem much point in me running Historic AC events on Thursday (which is the
traditional historic evening on SROUK) when the same thing is running on Weds.

I am happy to keep running R3E on Thurs, as although currently low attendance, it has nice
easy preconfigured  Historic (ish) car groups that are "reasonably" well matched.
But if there were enough interested people, I would run AC.

I need to look at the new PCars as well, as that might be a good option  ???


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on August 10, 2017, 12:50:53 PM +0100
That might be a good poll, see how many people can attend 2 evenings in a row.
I like the dedicated era evenings, as long as they both get healthy grids.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: spanner on August 10, 2017, 12:56:45 PM +0100
Its a shame pCARS never really got peoples attention here as its got some lovely cars in it. Currently driving the group 5 Capri in singleplayer career. its a beast!


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: phspok on August 10, 2017, 01:07:13 PM +0100
Does it have matched car groups like in R3E?


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: picnic on August 10, 2017, 01:17:06 PM +0100
I'm not gonna do a poll, as that will just end up with mixed votes anyway.
Can we have a poll to see if we need a poll :D  ::)

Currently driving the group 5 Capri in singleplayer career
Isn't there one of these is RRE as well? How do they compare?


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on August 10, 2017, 04:33:40 PM +0100
My only interest in Pcars is in its habit of paying for all the AC dlc. I'd be more likely to join you guys online in wreckfest to be perfectly honest!


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: phspok on August 10, 2017, 04:55:26 PM +0100
Don't understand FMG?
I got Pcar1, I don't remember DLC, but then I didn't use it much


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on August 10, 2017, 06:58:08 PM +0100
There are some, but I haven't bought any as I don't enjoy the game to play it much (The force feedback sucks IMO).
I was a very early backer, which means I get royalties on sales - all of which have been spent on Assetto  ;D


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: picnic on August 10, 2017, 07:07:13 PM +0100
I was a very early backer, which means I get royalties on sales - all of which have been spent on Assetto  ;D
Now I understand your previous message, which means I'm slow at comprehension as well as driving, as this is exactly what I have done


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: spanner on August 10, 2017, 09:08:41 PM +0100
I was a very early backer, which means I get royalties on sales - all of which have been spent on Assetto  ;D
Now I understand your previous message, which means I'm slow at comprehension as well as driving, as this is exactly what I have done

Me too but i only signed up for a one off discount but it seems they have been paying out every 6months or so!
There are classes in there, but quite loose and sometimes only a single car. group 5 has capri and bmw. Doing a race of prototypes only and ou get radicals on the grid!


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on August 11, 2017, 09:52:37 AM +0100
More than happy to take a back seat for a while after all the aggro I got in the last Blancpain series  ::) so go ahead  :)

Still think the superb Group C cars need a proper crack, even if we just use the Porsche 962 (and/or) the Mazda 787. They are both superb race cars. 8)

A Ferrari cup series? old or new. Would be more popular this time around with our friendly Italian contingent taking part too. :)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on August 11, 2017, 10:28:53 AM +0100
There are quite a few classic cars I'd like to try, but I think it's best to alternate between classic and modern.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on August 11, 2017, 11:30:54 AM +0100
i just tried the classic supercars series at Imola with the Lambo Countach, Ruf CTR, F40 and Cobra. Looked and sounded awesome!  8)  No idea how they would tally up competitively though.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on August 11, 2017, 12:25:47 PM +0100
You tried the 718 RS60 yet Jeff?....  :angel:


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on August 11, 2017, 04:41:39 PM +0100
i just tried the classic supercars series at Imola with the Lambo Countach, Ruf CTR, F40 and Cobra. Looked and sounded awesome!  8)  No idea how they would tally up competitively though.

They don't  :P.

The only series AC has, are the GT3's and even those are horribly inbalanced. So to balance cars from different era's or with completely different specs and tyres, not my plan. If somebody wants to do all that effort to create a grid with a variety of cars which are all balanced, I'm happy to make a series of it, but I'll only be doing 1 spec races.

You tried the 718 RS60 yet Jeff?....  :angel:

Very briefly and what I can remember is that it was quite slidey and fun, but a tad too slow. But I'd need to test it again to be sure. For classic cars I had a few options in mind, Lotus 25/49 or the 917K. But haven't tested those as well, so maybe I'll pick something else.

If nobody is going to stand foward and do a series before next week, I'll start prepping for something straight after the RSR's.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on August 12, 2017, 07:17:23 AM +0100
How about formula easter? They're up to 4 or 5 chassis now several of which have multiple variants and should be pretty close in performance.
I've got to work on my car today for a while but might try a race weekend against them to see how close they stay.
There was also a mod that equalised the performance of the old touring cars,  although I haven't tried it yet to see if it's feasible. But could be cool as it adds the Cavalier and Sierra to the existing cars


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: SRW on August 12, 2017, 07:28:35 AM +0100
"Cavalier and Sierra".......you got my attention then, as I school boy I was a massive RS500 fan, then a big fan of the super touring Cavaliers and Radisichs Mondeo, is this an add on mod for AC?


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on August 12, 2017, 07:36:43 AM +0100
The cars are add ones,  the performance balancing was done by a custom career mod. I still need to look into that to see if it's suitable for online use.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on August 12, 2017, 07:46:13 AM +0100
How about formula easter? They're up to 4 or 5 chassis now several of which have multiple variants and should be pretty close in performance.
I've got to work on my car today for a while but might try a race weekend against them to see how close they stay.
There was also a mod that equalised the performance of the old touring cars,  although I haven't tried it yet to see if it's feasible. But could be cool as it adds the Cavalier and Sierra to the existing cars

If this (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/avia-ae2.11850/) is the Formula Easter you mean, then IMO it looks absolutely trash  :D.

I think there is still plenty official content to use before resulting to mods. That touring car balancing mod can be useful if it's done properly.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on August 12, 2017, 04:36:05 PM +0100
DTM link is here (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/dtm-championship-80s-90s.12378/)
Looks like you'd want to back up the various car folders before applying it as it would affect normal online usage I imagine.

As for Formula Easter, try it and I think you'd be surprised. Winged and/or ground effects cars without excessive horsepower would make for great close racing.
They always remind me of the 65 mod for GPL  8)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on August 12, 2017, 06:03:03 PM +0100
DTM link is here (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/dtm-championship-80s-90s.12378/)
Looks like you'd want to back up the various car folders before applying it as it would affect normal online usage I imagine.

As for Formula Easter, try it and I think you'd be surprised. Winged and/or ground effects cars without excessive horsepower would make for great close racing.
They always remind me of the 65 mod for GPL  8)

I'm not short on car choices, heck, I've got enough picks to last a few months with original content  ;D.

But the whole car choice debate was exactly what I wasn't after, more to see if somebody wants to step up and set a series up, then he can pick whatever he wants. But if nobody steps up, I've got a modern and rarely used car in my mind for the next series.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Simon Gymer on September 07, 2017, 11:28:48 AM +0100
I would love to see a return to what we had in the GTR2 days...

Sunday night, 90 minute races with a pit stop, GT1 and GT3 or in our case I guess it would have to be GT2 and GT3. 30 cars (15 of each class) The format was popular then and I have always seen how popular an endurance series is with fans of GT cars. I don't mind just having one class of car if the numbers are lower.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on September 07, 2017, 11:43:59 AM +0100
I would love to see a return to what we had in the GTR2 days...

Sunday night, 90 minute races with a pit stop, GT1 and GT3 or in our case I guess it would have to be GT2 and GT3. 30 cars (15 of each class) The format was popular then and I have always seen how popular an endurance series is with fans of GT cars. I don't mind just having one class of car if the numbers are lower.

Having a full grid with either mixed classes or single would be great, but not viable IMO. I don't think we would stand a chance against CORE, seeing the GT3 race organized a few weeks back on Sunday with the GT3's. Quite a few here, race at CORE on Sunday's and I have no idea how to attract new drivers from somewhere else :(.

For me personally, I find it such a shame a lot of cars aren't used in AC. It's always the GT classes that you see everywhere, which is logical, as they seem most popular. But what I'm trying to do, is pick some "hidden" gems in AC and make a series out of that, kinda surprising people how fun those other cars can be.

If somebody is going to create a Sunday night endurance series, I'll be happy to help, but I'm not going to invest in it myself, as of right now, I don't see it being viable :).

EDIT: The one thing that might be an option, is to have an inter league series with CORE on Sunday, what they have sometimes with a Slovakian league.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on September 10, 2017, 12:13:14 PM +0100
Another series further down the line ?..

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=14475.0

 8)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on September 10, 2017, 01:19:06 PM +0100
Another series further down the line ?..

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=14475.0

 8)

Didn't plan on that car, but if it's that good and it fits with something else, it would be a shame not to use it :). In theory, I've got the next 2 series in mind, which will take a few months, or I can do 2 classic series in a row. But that might be a bit too much, as the next classic series will most likely be 10 rounds.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: SRW on September 10, 2017, 06:43:58 PM +0100
I would love to see a return to what we had in the GTR2 days...

Sunday night, 90 minute races with a pit stop, GT1 and GT3 or in our case I guess it would have to be GT2 and GT3. 30 cars (15 of each class) The format was popular then and I have always seen how popular an endurance series is with fans of GT cars. I don't mind just having one class of car if the numbers are lower.

Having a full grid with either mixed classes or single would be great, but not viable IMO. I don't think we would stand a chance against CORE, seeing the GT3 race organized a few weeks back on Sunday with the GT3's. Quite a few here, race at CORE on Sunday's and I have no idea how to attract new drivers from somewhere else :(.

For me personally, I find it such a shame a lot of cars aren't used in AC. It's always the GT classes that you see everywhere, which is logical, as they seem most popular. But what I'm trying to do, is pick some "hidden" gems in AC and make a series out of that, kinda surprising people how fun those other cars can be.

If somebody is going to create a Sunday night endurance series, I'll be happy to help, but I'm not going to invest in it myself, as of right now, I don't see it being viable :).

EDIT: The one thing that might be an option, is to have an inter league series with CORE on Sunday, what they have sometimes with a Slovakian league.

I am currently organising sporadic AC events on Sunday nights, as of January I plan to alternate Sunday nights between R3E and AC on a weekly basis. My first AC series will be based on the British GT championship (GT3's with pitstop following the British GT calendar). Depending on the numbers of people turning up for R3E v AC I may do more of the Sunday races in AC, (certainly more track choice in AC)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Maikel K. on September 12, 2017, 06:09:07 PM +0100
I just read that the new Ferrari pack is coming out the 19th of September.

- 1962 250 GTO
- 1967 330 P4
- 1967 312/67
- 1984 288 GTO
- 2004 F2004
- 2017 812 Superfast
- Ferrari SF70H

Some great oldtimers, a '67 F1 car, a 2004 F1 car and the 2017 F1 car  :o
Just the 2017 Superfast car doesn't sound very interesting ( probably because of the lamest car name ever  :P, even worse then the FerrariTheFerrari  ;D )


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on September 12, 2017, 08:56:24 PM +0100
Didn't realise it was out so soon. I've been desperate for the pack ever since the 312 was announced as it will give the Lotus 49 some competition  ;D
Couldn't care about the other 2 ;)

Having the 2 GTO's and the P4 is just the icing on the cake - especially as I recently read that Kunos are going to be bringing the Tipo 33 out at some point too  :wub:


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on September 13, 2017, 07:18:19 AM +0100
Ahh, some tasty cars in that pack indeed. Funny it is out a couple of days before the release of PCars 2.. ::)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on September 13, 2017, 10:57:54 AM +0100
Ha I thought the same! Rushing it out a few days before pcars2 release  ;D

Can't wait to drive the P4, probably the best looking sports car ever  :wub: and a GTO  8)
Wish it had a 512LM though to race against the 917 and Lola  :'(
The 330 can race the gt40 though ...'67 Le Mans famous battle anyone?  8)

Not interested in mastering the new hybrid f1 cars  ::) would we need new steering wheels that had 50 buttons on it ?  ::)

Old 312 v Lotus could be a hoot too


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on September 13, 2017, 11:00:30 AM +0100
I just read that the new Ferrari pack is coming out the 19th of September.

- 1962 250 GTO
- 1967 330 P4
- 1967 312/67
- 1984 288 GTO
- 2004 F2004
- 2017 812 Superfast
- Ferrari SF70H

Some great oldtimers, a '67 F1 car, a 2004 F1 car and the 2017 F1 car  :o
Just the 2017 Superfast car doesn't sound very interesting ( probably because of the lamest car name ever  :P, even worse then the FerrariTheFerrari  ;D )


Some great classic cars in there and finally a good looking modern Ferrari. Yes the Superfast sounds aweful, but looks great  ;D. Finally back to the long bonnet cars instead of the square hairdresser models  :D.

Shame so many muppets voted for the 2017 car. A car most try once and it never gets used afterwards, there were so many better alternatives for that.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: spanner on September 13, 2017, 12:12:43 PM +0100
Nothing of interest in it for me.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Maikel K. on September 14, 2017, 09:42:24 PM +0100

Some great classic cars in there and finally a good looking modern Ferrari. Yes the Superfast sounds aweful, but looks great  ;D. Finally back to the long bonnet cars instead of the square hairdresser models  :D.

Shame so many muppets voted for the 2017 car. A car most try once and it never gets used afterwards, there were so many better alternatives for that.

Agree. To me that Superfast looks like Ferrari went Aston Martin style  8)

And while I like to try out the 2017 F1 car, no one is ever going to do a real race/series in it as it requires hours on end to get to know all the mechanics and stuff. Though I'm really looking forward to the 2004 F1 car. No DRS and Kers, only TC if I'm not mistaken ( don't hold my word on that one though  ;D ), looks good and should sound amazing aswell.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on September 14, 2017, 10:52:37 PM +0100
Agree. To me that Superfast looks like Ferrari went Aston Martin style  8)

To me it's more a Corvette :).

only TC if I'm not mistaken ( don't hold my word on that one though  ;D ), looks good and should sound amazing aswell.

If it's Schumacher's car it will have TC, no matter if it was allowed or not  :whistling: ;).


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Maikel K. on September 18, 2017, 05:48:52 PM +0100
While I'm not really in a Ferrari mood this week ( thanks Vettel and Kimi ), this is looking so good.   ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH_zrryZ_Ug&feature=youtu.be

Definitely gotta try them all out tomorrow.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on September 18, 2017, 08:07:34 PM +0100
I've already done setup work at the new Goodwood in the 908 and GT40 ready for the P4  ;)
(GT40 and Pork are within a tenth of each other so far!  ;) )

If I get time I intend to do the same for the Cobra, so I can re-enact the 250/Cobra battles of the mid 60's  8)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on September 18, 2017, 08:11:56 PM +0100
I've already done setup work at the new Goodwood in the 908 and GT40 ready for the P4  ;)
(GT40 and Pork are within a tenth of each other so far!  ;) )

If I get time I intend to do the same for the Cobra, so I can re-enact the 250/Cobra battles of the mid 60's  8)

what new Goodwood?! :o  AC has needed this track for a while to let loose some of these great old cars ala the Revival  8)

edit...found it, awesome  :)  Now take the Lola around it FMG  >:D


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on September 18, 2017, 08:58:34 PM +0100
Later in the week maybe.
Got the Cobra down to the 1:23ish mark now - It's like wrestling an angry Wookie, you never know when it's going to try to tear you a new one next  ;D


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on September 18, 2017, 09:26:06 PM +0100
I took the angry cobra for a few laps too, suits this track perfectly  8) shame we haven't got some E-Types to pitch against it.

Taking my 31yr old pork here in a couple of weeks for a trackday, should be fun  :o


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on September 19, 2017, 12:30:38 PM +0100
I've already done setup work at the new Goodwood in the 908 and GT40 ready for the P4  ;)
(GT40 and Pork are within a tenth of each other so far!  ;) )

Do you have the XJ13 Jag mod installed? Wondering if it matches with this lot.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on September 19, 2017, 04:23:59 PM +0100
I do,  but haven't updated it yet.
I remember it was on a par in the past though


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on September 19, 2017, 06:57:09 PM +0100
oh god. You have to take the 250 out at Goodwood - And crank the volume up!  :wub:


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on September 19, 2017, 08:10:14 PM +0100
oh god. You have to take the 250 out at Goodwood - And crank the volume up!  :wub:

It's very nice but I prefer the 330 P4  8)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Maikel K. on September 19, 2017, 09:51:58 PM +0100
Just gave all the cars a go and what a great DLC  :o  ;D

- 1962 250 GTO: Took the first few car out to old Silverstone, quite a fun car. Felt slow but it was drifting all over the place  8)
- 1967 330 P4 : Pleasantly suprised. Quite alot of grip on the rear, though lots of understeer. Again a lot of fun to drive.
- 1967 312/67 : Insanely fun to drive  :P  nuff said
- 1984 288 GTO : bwoah, cool car. But not a race car
- 2017 812 Superfast : Thought it be terrible, but it wasn't too bad. Almost impossible to get the car to slide around though even with TC off. Looks pretty  :)

Then it was off to the (modern) F1 cars out at Spa
- 2004 F2004 : I'm in love :tt1:  Felt like I had to wear earplugs while driving it. Huge amount of grip thanks to the TC and those brakes are insane. Not sure what they are using but they feel twice as good as the 2017 one. Kept coming to a standstill in front of the busstop and Les Combes  ;D
Also it feels like I'm going way faster then the 2017 car even though the speed was pretty much the same, but that screaming engine makes such a difference.

- Ferrari SF70H : Actually alot more driveable then I expected. I found it able to catch the car so it definitely looked good in the replay wriggling around there  8)  All those KERS settings though  :-\


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on September 19, 2017, 09:55:56 PM +0100

- Ferrari SF70H : Actually alot more driveable then I expected. I found it able to catch the car so it definitely looked good in the replay wriggling around there  8)  All those KERS settings though  :-\


Is the peripheral vision really that bad in the SF70H?  :angel:


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Maikel K. on September 19, 2017, 10:10:40 PM +0100

- Ferrari SF70H : Actually alot more driveable then I expected. I found it able to catch the car so it definitely looked good in the replay wriggling around there  8)  All those KERS settings though  :-\


Is the peripheral vision really that bad in the SF70H?  :angel:

No, it did automatically move toward anything coloured dark purple/blue. Almost ran into someone wearing a Red Bull shirt in the grandstands. Not sure if it's a bug.

Though in the replay I thought I could see the driver waving his hands and swearing in a German accent ;D


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on September 20, 2017, 09:59:31 AM +0100
 :laugh: very funny Maikel  ;D

I've only tried the f250 , 312 and 330 so far and all tasty. Did think the engine sound inside the GTO sounded a bit synthesised but sure someone will improve it. The 330 cockpit view reminds me of a Heinkel bomber from ww2  ;D cool car to race though  8)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on September 20, 2017, 10:14:15 AM +0100
I do,  but haven't updated it yet.
I remember it was on a par in the past though

I know it is Can-Am class, but the Lola T70 mk2 might be on par also? Maybe the Ford powered one?


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on September 20, 2017, 05:27:18 PM +0100
While browsing for Lotus 25 skins earlier I subled across a new release than will be useful for certain classic championships Jeffers might consider.
'Proper' Le Mans has been released with some help from Virtua LM  ;D

http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/le-grand-circuit-1967.17288/ (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/le-grand-circuit-1967.17288/)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on September 20, 2017, 05:35:12 PM +0100
While browsing for Lotus 25 skins earlier I subled across a new release than will be useful for certain classic championships Jeffers might consider.
'Proper' Le Mans has been released with some help from Virtua LM  ;D

http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/le-grand-circuit-1967.17288/ (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/le-grand-circuit-1967.17288/)

Oooeeeh nice. If only we had some Group C cars ;).


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on September 20, 2017, 06:39:41 PM +0100
While browsing for Lotus 25 skins earlier I subled across a new release than will be useful for certain classic championships Jeffers might consider.
'Proper' Le Mans has been released with some help from Virtua LM  ;D

http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/le-grand-circuit-1967.17288/ (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/le-grand-circuit-1967.17288/)

Nice find FMG  8) now we can recreate that famous Ford v Ferrari '67 race  :o


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on September 28, 2017, 10:02:51 PM +0100
aww man, we have to run this race sometime as a special endurance event...its got its own dedicated skin pack now  8)

The famous 1967 Le Mans race

http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/1967-24-heures-du-mans-skinpack.17389/ (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/1967-24-heures-du-mans-skinpack.17389/)

 O0 :tt1:


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on September 28, 2017, 10:14:02 PM +0100
aww man, we have to run this race sometime as a special endurance event...its got its own dedicated skin pack now  8)

The famous 1967 Le Mans race

http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/1967-24-heures-du-mans-skinpack.17389/ (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/1967-24-heures-du-mans-skinpack.17389/)

 O0 :tt1:

That looks ace.   I was thinking of doing those cars on the 27th of December, the week after the lotus series. Ideal way of testing the combo for a series that could follow after the next modern series.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on October 13, 2017, 02:18:27 PM +0100
Just came across this website:

https://actrackrebootproject.wixsite.com/ac-track-re-boot

Has some awesome looking classic tracks on there.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: picnic on October 13, 2017, 04:32:39 PM +0100
Hmm, could of sworn someone's already posted a link here. Certainly seen the site before and can't think were else I would have seen it.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on October 13, 2017, 05:45:02 PM +0100
Hmm, could of sworn someone's already posted a link here. Certainly seen the site before and can't think were else I would have seen it.

First time for me, but I'm not really sure if some of track can be used here. For instance, that Monaco track is from rF2.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on October 13, 2017, 09:13:10 PM +0100
wow If the tracks live up to the screen shots, it would make for some impressive historic racing venues  :o


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on November 30, 2017, 03:54:23 PM +0000
Next series will probably be the F599, a car which has limited setup options and not as grippy as a GT car. I hope that will give more overtaking. I'm also tempted to go for success ballast up to 100kg. Not sure if that will be with a 15/30/45/60 format or 20/40/60.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: ChrisR on November 30, 2017, 04:32:09 PM +0000
The F 599xx Evo is far faster than a GT car, and there are loads of setup options on there..

Its on par with the zonda F

Are you thinking of the same car?


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on November 30, 2017, 04:50:16 PM +0000
The F 599xx Evo is far faster than a GT car, and there are loads of setup options on there..

Its on par with the zonda F

Are you thinking of the same car?

I do mean the Evo, but it feels a lot less planted than a GT3 car.

It doesn't have a lot of setup options. Fixed gearing, adjustable camber, toe  and ARB. That's pretty much it, other than the obvious tyre pressure etc.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rfGR76c2Yl8/hqdefault.jpg)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: ChrisR on November 30, 2017, 05:40:26 PM +0000
Ah right, fair enough. :)

Sounds good so thats a plus lol.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Simon Gymer on November 30, 2017, 11:32:40 PM +0000
These cars are pretty cool. 8) I’ll have the blue one  :yes: . Shall we try them at Longford?  :P :angel:


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on December 01, 2017, 03:56:35 AM +0000
These cars are pretty cool. 8) I’ll have the blue one  :yes: . Shall we try them at Longford?  :P :angel:

(https://i.imgflip.com/t1bxn.jpg?a419928)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Manteos on December 01, 2017, 10:07:16 AM +0000
Shall we try them at Longford?  :P :angel:

(https://s-i.huffpost.com/gen/4163242/images/n-DONALD-TRUMP-628x314.jpg)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on December 11, 2017, 09:42:51 AM +0000
Instead of running a full series, I'm going to try and alternate 1 week modern, other week classic. That way people have more chance to practice, but also you don't have to wait that long for your preference of modern/classic.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on December 11, 2017, 11:27:29 AM +0000
Could be good. For a long time I’ve thought we need a historics night as well as a modern series to keep all fans happy.  :)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on December 11, 2017, 11:47:19 AM +0000
Could be good. For a long time I’ve thought we need a historics night as well as a modern series to keep all fans happy.  :)

I've been having that discussion as well with Matt behind the scenes. It's pretty hard to find a good schedule. Two days in a row with classics on Wednesday and modern the next day was 1 option, but the fear was people will chose between the 2, instead of join both.

For the time being, I'll try this kind of schedule and hope it's a good compromise.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on December 11, 2017, 09:14:48 PM +0000
With 100kg ballast, the 599 is around 1,5 seconds slower per lap at Silverstone. That's quite a bit, but maybe just right to push the top group into the next group?


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Fabri Fibra on December 12, 2017, 01:07:27 PM +0000
Instead of running a full series, I'm going to try and alternate 1 week modern, other week classic. That way people have more chance to practice, but also you don't have to wait that long for your preference of modern/classic.

I really like that idea.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on December 12, 2017, 01:16:20 PM +0000

I really like that idea.


Good to hear. One reason I did it, is to keep new members like you and Porco on board and not leave due to a modern series :).


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on December 18, 2017, 03:50:21 PM +0000
Tracklist for the 599 I'm currently thinking of (random order):

- Silverstone
- Imola
- Nurburgring
- Barcelona
- Road Atlanta (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/road-atlanta-2016.18293/)
- Sebring (https://actrackrebootproject.wixsite.com/ac-track-re-boot/sebring-international-raceway)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on December 18, 2017, 05:10:39 PM +0000
With the exception of Silverstone they're all good ( I'll just rage-quit as usual when I get annoyed with it - unless you fancy running classic Silverstone for lol's ;) )

I need to take a look at the standard and D/L skins to pick something soon I guess...


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Maikel K. on December 18, 2017, 09:40:03 PM +0000
I'll reserve this one then :
http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads%2Fferrari-599xx-evoart.4315%2F

 ;D


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on December 18, 2017, 09:46:42 PM +0000
Classy one indeed.

Can i claim the no. 71 Castrol livery then please?

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-5MErdZZAlSk/U1GGqvXbudI/AAAAAAAAA98/BkR1SPkRsLw/w1476-h830-no/asseto+corsa+599+evo+race+1.jpg)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on December 19, 2017, 04:42:59 AM +0000
I'll reserve this one then :
http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads%2Fferrari-599xx-evoart.4315%2F

 ;D

 :o If I forget, remind me again when I create the series page.

Classy one indeed.

Can i claim the no. 71 Castrol livery then please?

I see a #4 there, do you have a link to that skin?


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on December 19, 2017, 08:01:07 AM +0000
Ahh yes sorry. That was another livery. This Castrol one has no.4 indeed.

its here:
http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/ferrari-599-evo-castrol-jgt-nsx-version.2129/ (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/ferrari-599-evo-castrol-jgt-nsx-version.2129/)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on December 19, 2017, 03:01:33 PM +0000
Not even driven this car yet. Is it a gt or super/hyper car ?


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on December 19, 2017, 03:26:25 PM +0000
Not even driven this car yet. Is it a gt or super/hyper car ?

 Somewhere in between IMO. Not as grippy as a gt,  but not as foolish as a hypercar.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Manteos on December 25, 2017, 07:11:24 PM +0000
I make another proposal for the 330P, Porsche 908 and GT40 champ.

After the test race we will have a better idea of the car balance and decide the handicap for every car, but IMO, despite we will try to balance these cars, their performance won't be balanced in some circuit.
My proposal is simple. I just made a similar proposal in the past.

-We will start with a definite amount of ballast/restrictors after the test race, and that will remain fixed during all the season.

-Divide the championship in 3 phases consisting of 3 races for each phase.

- During every phase you can race with one of the 3 cars only once. It's enough to keep an excel sheet as a reminder for each driver.

We could think about a single make Grand Finale at Nordschleife or wherever you want.

In this way, we will avoid any issue about unleveled car performances in some races, and everyone will be forced to drive all the cars unless he join only one race for each phase...

Just my two cents ;)

Merry XMas chaps ;)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on December 26, 2017, 01:58:46 PM +0000
That could work, but I'm not sure people can get to grips with 3 cars during a season.

I'm going to wait and see how the test race goes, it might give a totally different result than expected.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on December 26, 2017, 06:03:55 PM +0000
You might be surprised, we use this method in GPL at the moment and it doesn't seem to have affected interest.
Although we do have people complaining when they can't drive the fastest car all the time ;)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: ChrisR on December 27, 2017, 09:13:05 AM +0000
We could always do a alfa 33 cup series.. maybe 4/5 weeks


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on December 27, 2017, 12:49:01 PM +0000
We could always do a alfa 33 cup series.. maybe 4/5 weeks

Lovely car, shame it doesn't fit in with any other similar era cars? anyone tried it against the RSR or escorts / anything else maybe?


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on December 27, 2017, 01:20:48 PM +0000
We could always do a alfa 33 cup series.. maybe 4/5 weeks

If the 330/908/GT40 combo really doesn't work, going for just the Alfa 33 is an option. Shame it will be another single brand series  ::).


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on December 27, 2017, 01:42:44 PM +0000
Yes, but it's an epic single brand ;)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on December 27, 2017, 02:08:35 PM +0000
917k and Lolas work well together. Have tried them at 3 tracks now and seemed well matched. Also just tried them at the new Laguna track, lovely  8)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on December 27, 2017, 03:09:03 PM +0000
917k and Lolas work well together. Have tried them at 3 tracks now and seemed well matched. Also just tried them at the new Laguna track, lovely  8)

Sounds interesting.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on December 29, 2017, 11:19:52 AM +0000
Next classic series will be the Porsche 962 short tail. Tracks will be a mix of the real tracks they used in 1985 and some others. So far I'm thinking:

- Mugello
- Monza Classic
- Silverstone Classic
- Kyalami 67: Real life, this was at Le Mans, but the modern mod is IMo horrible and the classic Le Mans is full throttle for half an hour.
- Ostereichring 79: This replaces Hockenheimring, as the mod version of that is really bland (only 11mb).
- Midohio: Mosport only has 12 pitboxes and a timing issues.
- Spa
- Brands
- Fuji
- Imola 72: Shah Alam is wat was the real last track of the '85 season. Don't think I'll need to explain why that was replaced  :P.



Sounds interesting.

I found the 917K to be 2 seconds faster on Kyalami.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on December 29, 2017, 04:08:30 PM +0000
Yeah, 917 is generally faster. About 1.5 faster at Pau for instance compared to the Chevy Lola, 3 secs+ Vs the ford powered car.

As I mentioned previously, Mid Ohio seems to be a hard hitter for frame rates - can we try a test race there (In either these or something else) to check it first?
I'm fairly certain I know my skin so eagerly awaiting the official thread 8)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on December 29, 2017, 04:24:09 PM +0000

As I mentioned previously, Mid Ohio seems to be a hard hitter for frame rates - can we try a test race there (In either these or something else) to check it first?


I had 110 fps driving alone on the track, but I'll check with a full grid.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on December 29, 2017, 06:05:15 PM +0000
del ( about mid ohio)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on December 29, 2017, 06:14:18 PM +0000
del ( about mid ohio)

No idea what you said about it, but with 20 AI I did get the CPU occupancy warning, eventhough I still had plenty of fps. So I guess the warning just comes from the AI going mental on this track, but I don't want to take the chance, so I switched to Laguna Seca, which I forgot and is a much wiser decision in the first place.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on December 29, 2017, 06:53:27 PM +0000
Jeff i mean that we still not have a good MidOhio track in AC . All variants of it is so bad. You are right changing it to other track .  Thats all what i want to say  :)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on March 04, 2018, 05:33:32 PM +0000
Is there a mod with these?  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqFr8epz2aY


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on April 05, 2018, 07:37:10 PM +0100
Is there a way to BOP 49 and the 312?


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Fabri Fibra on April 05, 2018, 10:26:11 PM +0100
Is there a way to BOP 49 and the 312?
312 is too slow for race against Lotus 49. The gap is huge.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on April 05, 2018, 11:02:14 PM +0100
312 is too slow for race against Lotus 49. The gap is huge.

That's a shame.

What kind of format did you have in mind for the Lotus, race length wise and which tracks?


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Fabri Fibra on April 05, 2018, 11:47:43 PM +0100
The tracks of the season '67. They were 11 GP. 45 mins are ok. Just my idea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_Formula_One_season#Season_summary

In GPL for the French GP was used Rouen, more adrenalinc than Bugatti Circuit.

For AC maybe we have all tracks now, but
-Mexico is the '88 version
-Spa is a work in progress (a version from RF2 if i remember well).

For a historical accuracy, maybe it is possible use also the sistem of points of those years.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on April 06, 2018, 11:06:26 AM +0100
10 Rounds should be plenty for a season. Could be Kyalami, Monaco, Zandvoort (Classic or modern), Spa, Rouen, Silverstone, Nurburgring (or Nords), Monza, Watkins and then substitute for Mosport.

But let's wait and see what the DRM gives, review are a bit mixed at the moment and apparently there are 2 divisions in the mod:

DIV 1

CARMA
PURIANO 1H
PURIANO 3H
MAROD AERO
YAMAMOTO DELIKATA
RMT N1

DIV 2
RMT 1001
RMT 120
LARDO MONASTIR
MAROD SCREAM

If those divisions are balanced, they would be awesome.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: spanner on April 06, 2018, 06:43:11 PM +0100
So they didnt go for real car names!


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on April 06, 2018, 07:20:28 PM +0100
Licensing - if you expect to be paid for your work so do the manufacturers ;)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Manteos on April 07, 2018, 12:44:41 AM +0100
That LARDO should be the perfect car for Porco  ;D ;D ;D


P.S I won't give them a single penny


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on April 07, 2018, 12:42:26 PM +0100
Anyone tried it yet? Not had a chance yet to dload it


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on April 07, 2018, 12:54:33 PM +0100
That LARDO should be the perfect car for Porco  ;D ;D ;D

 ;D The fumes would be nauceating

P.S I won't give them a single penny


You mean the mod makers?

Anyone tried it yet? Not had a chance yet to dload it

I'm awaiting more reviews. Some say it's great, but I often read the quality differentiates a lot between cars.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on April 07, 2018, 02:11:21 PM +0100
Yeah just been reading the thread over at Kunos site. Good news is a real skin pack has already been released at RD as well as a real car names patch I think  :)
The pro reviews outweigh the negs so far and you always get the odd neg review !


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on April 08, 2018, 11:40:34 AM +0100
Next modern series will most likely be the Maserati MC12 GT1 at (random order):
- Algarve
- Zolder
- Suzuka
- Virginia
- Atlanta
- Watkins
- Monza

And you decide what the last track is gonna be  :P


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on April 08, 2018, 12:07:51 PM +0100
i quite fancy a modern single seater series but nothing too complicated to setup the car, so you can focus on the driving. Not sure what car that might be in AC?
MC1 is a nice car but leaves me a bit 'm'eh' for a series.  :-\


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: spanner on April 08, 2018, 12:16:10 PM +0100
A full on GT1 Mark???

Single seaters end up being rather lonely!


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on April 08, 2018, 12:18:39 PM +0100
i quite fancy a modern single seater series but nothing too complicated to setup the car, so you can focus on the driving. Not sure what car that might be in AC?
MC1 is a nice car but leaves me a bit 'm'eh' for a series.  :-\

You've got formula Abarth or what ever it's called - but they're not very interesting to drive.
Formula Easter is exactly as basic as you'd expect from a 70's single seater - there's 'enough' setup options but it isn't silly  :)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on April 08, 2018, 12:29:02 PM +0100
i quite fancy a modern single seater series but nothing too complicated to setup the car, so you can focus on the driving. Not sure what car that might be in AC?
MC1 is a nice car but leaves me a bit 'm'eh' for a series.  :-\

You are m'eh towards everything  :P. Only modern single seater I can think of is the Exos T125, as the only alternatives are mods.

Does this (http://assettocorsa.club/mods/auto/honda-racing-lawn-mower.html#en) count as an open wheeler?  ;D

I think the MC12 can be quite exciting, no ABS and a low downforce back end :).

Formula Easter is exactly as basic as you'd expect from a 70's single seater - there's 'enough' setup options but it isn't silly  :)

And it's also not modern ;). I just can't take the Formula Easter and Student seriously, they look like a vehicle from Dick Dastardly  ;D


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on April 08, 2018, 12:38:14 PM +0100
Old Porsche-style balanced car ( 40\60).Very well made model and good sound ( from MC4  Grin) . Very interesting when driving in limits.
I have no words to be contra this choice  Smiley We will battle with MarkJ together  Grin
User choice track must be a Spa , sure  ::)  


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on April 08, 2018, 02:13:37 PM +0100
i quite fancy a modern single seater series but nothing too complicated to setup the car, so you can focus on the driving. Not sure what car that might be in AC?
MC1 is a nice car but leaves me a bit 'm'eh' for a series.  :-\

You are m'eh towards everything  :P. Only modern single seater I can think of is the Exos T125, as the only alternatives are mods.

Does this (http://assettocorsa.club/mods/auto/honda-racing-lawn-mower.html#en) count as an open wheeler?  ;D

I think the MC12 can be quite exciting, no ABS and a low downforce back end :).

Formula Easter is exactly as basic as you'd expect from a 70's single seater - there's 'enough' setup options but it isn't silly  :)

And it's also not modern ;). I just can't take the Formula Easter and Student seriously, they look like a vehicle from Dick Dastardly  ;D

Au contraire I get quite easily excited by most racing  ;D and the good thing about being 'meh' sometimes means I get pleasantly surprised when it turns out great fun, as has already been proved to me in some of your previous choices that I might not have given enough time too otherwise!  :)

No idea what a formula Easter is  :laugh: had hoped the formula Abarths might be an option but not driven one since AC release  :P
Think I've only driven the mc12 for a test lap or two when it first came out.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Fabri Fibra on April 08, 2018, 02:43:39 PM +0100
i quite fancy a modern single seater series but nothing too complicated to setup the car, so you can focus on the driving. Not sure what car that might be in AC?
MC1 is a nice car but leaves me a bit 'm'eh' for a series.  :-\

You are m'eh towards everything  :P. Only modern single seater I can think of is the Exos T125, as the only alternatives are mods.

Does this (http://assettocorsa.club/mods/auto/honda-racing-lawn-mower.html#en) count as an open wheeler?  ;D

I think the MC12 can be quite exciting, no ABS and a low downforce back end :).

Formula Easter is exactly as basic as you'd expect from a 70's single seater - there's 'enough' setup options but it isn't silly  :)

And it's also not modern ;). I just can't take the Formula Easter and Student seriously, they look like a vehicle from Dick Dastardly  ;D

Au contraire I get quite easily excited by most racing  ;D and the good thing about being 'meh' sometimes means I get pleasantly surprised when it turns out great fun, as has already been proved to me in some of your previous choices that I might not have given enough time too otherwise!  :)

No idea what a formula Easter is  :laugh: had hoped the formula Abarths might be an option but not driven one since AC release  :P
Think I've only driven the mc12 for a test lap or two when it first came out.

Formula Abarth is one of most boring car in AC. Too much grip and too little power, boring and ez.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on April 08, 2018, 03:43:15 PM +0100
Ah okay, and by the by, I'm also well up for historic f1 cars but sadly I also think it might only suit the aliens who have more time than us mortals to set the car up and be able to handle the beasts. I did run races using them before though here and they were great fun  :)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on April 08, 2018, 03:55:28 PM +0100
i quite fancy a modern single seater series but nothing too complicated to setup the car, so you can focus on the driving. Not sure what car that might be in AC?
MC1 is a nice car but leaves me a bit 'm'eh' for a series.  :-\

You are m'eh towards everything  :P. Only modern single seater I can think of is the Exos T125, as the only alternatives are mods.

Does this (http://assettocorsa.club/mods/auto/honda-racing-lawn-mower.html#en) count as an open wheeler?  ;D

I think the MC12 can be quite exciting, no ABS and a low downforce back end :).

Formula Easter is exactly as basic as you'd expect from a 70's single seater - there's 'enough' setup options but it isn't silly  :)

And it's also not modern ;). I just can't take the Formula Easter and Student seriously, they look like a vehicle from Dick Dastardly  ;D

Au contraire I get quite easily excited by most racing  ;D and the good thing about being 'meh' sometimes means I get pleasantly surprised when it turns out great fun, as has already been proved to me in some of your previous choices that I might not have given enough time too otherwise!  :)

No idea what a formula Easter is  :laugh: had hoped the formula Abarths might be an option but not driven one since AC release  :P
Think I've only driven the mc12 for a test lap or two when it first came out.

Formula Abarth is one of most boring car in AC. Too much grip and too little power, boring and ez.

It also sounds dreadful - It's like Fiat heard someone say that Nissan's SR series of engines were really boring, soulless and terrible sounding, and then decided they had to be number 1 ....  ;D


Jeffery - download The Formula Easter cars and have a race against the AI at the Baikerneiki circuit of speed (Truely excellent mod track by the way - we should be using it regardless). Make sure you don't start any higher than midfield and then battle your way through and then tell me you can't take them seriously - I know Formula Ford guys who have all the time in the world for them in real life. They also look and sound good on the replays.

Formula student on the other hand is essentially a sprint and drag series. As per the name it's aimed at Uni students and the like, some of the Graduates I've had work for me in the last couple of years have been involved in it - great for Engineering students but not really sure about wheel to wheel racing in them...


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on April 09, 2018, 11:37:30 AM +0100
Anyone try the Lotus Exos T125 Standard? It's a modern open wheeler, nothing too crazy, but still fun to drive.

More people prefer something like that over the MC12?


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: spanner on April 09, 2018, 12:07:43 PM +0100
Don't we have a few Ferrari single seaters?


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on April 09, 2018, 01:17:32 PM +0100
Anyone try the Lotus Exos T125 Standard? It's a modern open wheeler, nothing too crazy, but still fun to drive.

I have no words to be contra this choice. :) Agree with 125 standart. 1 medium compound, no rear tyres overhating ( they fixed it) . But not tested in 40 min, just 5 laps in silverstone.
In warm time of year ( summer time) i prefer to drive easy setup cars, fun drivable (like F599xx), and don't wants to siting with PC and collect hundreds of traning laps in setup making.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on April 09, 2018, 01:35:12 PM +0100
BTW we have a good and simple cars evora and exige from lotus. If with paddles- i will join any of these cars. No setups, fun drive, imho. But need test first.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: SRW on April 10, 2018, 07:06:59 PM +0100
Next modern series will most likely be the Maserati MC12 GT1 at (random order):
- Algarve
- Zolder
- Suzuka
- Virginia
- Atlanta
- Watkins
- Monza

And you decide what the last track is gonna be  :P


MC12 GT1 sounds good to me. I Bagsy the vitaphone paintwork


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Simon Gymer on April 13, 2018, 10:01:13 PM +0100
Please not VIR! Stupid place and rubbish for close racing. It's just a test of who can finish with no overtaking.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on April 14, 2018, 06:48:40 AM +0100
Please not VIR! Stupid place and rubbish for close racing. It's just a test of who can finish with no overtaking.

I don't think it's that bad with modern cars, but I'd like to hear an alternative. I haven't heard anyone mention a suggestion for the 8th round as well  :P

I'm thinking about Estoril without the chicane and we have a race at Circuit of the Americas over at Core this Sunday, and if it's good, might use that as well.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on April 14, 2018, 10:29:25 AM +0100
What car confirmed? Or this question is still open for discussion? Should i test Lotus GTE or GTC in actual tyres phisics ?  :)
What car we prefer- easy setup or  full setup option? I prefer easy in summer time as i said earlier.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Maikel K. on April 14, 2018, 11:15:12 AM +0100
Please not VIR! Stupid place and rubbish for close racing. It's just a test of who can finish with no overtaking.

I've had quite a few overtakes on this track. Turn 1 and the one after the long straight are great for overtaking.

I'm thinking about Estoril without the chicane and we have a race at Circuit of the Americas over at Core this Sunday, and if it's good, might use that as well.

Estoril has only 1 or 2 overtaking spots aswell. Probably the same as COTA, though we'll see after the race (though it's a great track for modern/downforce cars).
Personally I love VIR with its mix of twisty corners and long straights.  ;D

Though Mugello is always a good option aswell  8)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on April 14, 2018, 11:24:49 AM +0100
Just tested Lotus Evora GTC and Lotus Evora GX again. Awesome cars, as allways! Realy racing and enjoyble. Try it guys! This is forgotten AC cars but they so good, imo. But a lot of setups option ))) Sound is great, cars are alive. I perefer GTC for champ- have abs and tc. Jeff did you wach it?


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on April 14, 2018, 11:25:46 AM +0100
Please not VIR! Stupid place and rubbish for close racing. It's just a test of who can finish with no overtaking.

I've had quite a few overtakes on this track. Turn 1 and the one after the long straight are great for overtaking.

I'm thinking about Estoril without the chicane and we have a race at Circuit of the Americas over at Core this Sunday, and if it's good, might use that as well.


Estoril has only 1 or 2 overtaking spots aswell. Probably the same as COTA, though we'll see after the race (though it's a great track for modern/downforce cars).
Personally I love VIR with its mix of twisty corners and long straights.  ;D

Though Mugello is always a good option aswell  8)

Agree with Maikel especialy for Mugello  :)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on April 14, 2018, 11:38:11 AM +0100
Just tested Lotus Evora GTC and Lotus Evora GX again. Awesome cars, as allways! Realy racing and enjoyble. Try it guys! This is forgotten AC cars but they so good, imo. But a lot of setups option ))) Sound is great, cars are alive. I perefer GTC for champ- have abs and tc. Jeff did you wach it?

I need to test those cars, most lotus cars were a bit boring IMO and I think the MC12 is a bit more interesting due to the higher speed and no abs.

I also think VIR has enough overtaking possibilities and Mugello should be on the calendar every season for you Maikel ;D.

I can always pick Longford or Nords for Simon ;).


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on April 14, 2018, 03:13:11 PM +0100
Which Zolder? The really good new one or the older converted one?

And might I suggest Sveg? Seems to suit the Masser really well with a combination of fast sweeping corners, tight 2nd gear corners and big straights.

Also going to look at Autopolis Oita and Hope later tonight


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on April 14, 2018, 05:50:02 PM +0100
Which Zolder? The really good new one or the older converted one?
It's the one on AC reboot, so I think the new one?

And might I suggest Sveg? Seems to suit the Masser really well with a combination of fast sweeping corners, tight 2nd gear corners and big straights.

Also going to look at Autopolis Oita and Hope later tonight

Can you give links to those, to make sure I have the right version as they don't ring a bell for me, so I'm very interested :).


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on April 14, 2018, 06:29:12 PM +0100
Sveg = https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/sveg-raceway.18818/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/sveg-raceway.18818/)

Hope doesn't really work for these, road mesh isn't that smooth and it's too tight.
Autopolis turns out to be an unauthorised conversion so I don't think we're likely to run it here - same as it looks good and is a challenge in the MC12. Very twisty as you'd expect from a Jap circuit but also with some very fast stretches.

As for Zolder, I have this version: https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/zolder.19822/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/zolder.19822/)
It's apparently a first go at scratch making a track, I'll have to try the reboot version as well to see how they compare.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on April 14, 2018, 07:47:29 PM +0100
Sveg = https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/sveg-raceway.18818/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/sveg-raceway.18818/)

Looks good, will give it a go

As for Zolder, I have this version: https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/zolder.19822/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/zolder.19822/)
It's apparently a first go at scratch making a track, I'll have to try the reboot version as well to see how they compare.

That version has "Not recommended for leagues yet. Track is not fully tested." So I'm a bit wary of using that one. The AC reboot tracks have been quite solid so far.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Simon Gymer on April 14, 2018, 08:59:22 PM +0100
Estoril sounds good.

Longford, yeah woo, yeah, please, please!!  ;D

Turkey gp circuit?!

Shanghai gp circuit that’s topical right now.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on April 16, 2018, 05:06:03 PM +0100
Just tried Sveg and it's a nice track, but as soon as I crossed the bridge I knew it was a fantasy track and I'd rather not use those, eventhough the layout of this track is nice (bit too long)

CotA is a nightmare track, it's a cutting heaven and it's really hard to overtake.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on April 16, 2018, 05:16:04 PM +0100
Pity, I felt it really suited the car - although I know what you mean about the bridge :D
That's the sort of feature that Wreckfest fits as standard to the demolition derby style tracks ;D


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on May 07, 2018, 03:34:14 PM +0100
If we're going to be using the 250 GTO's next please please please please please please can we use Aviano GP?
I realised I haven't tried the conversion yet earlier today so took the Fez out - Oh my god it's fun here ;D
Remove that chicane from the end of the SF straight and it's as though the circuit was made for the 250 :angel:

https://youtu.be/nskBLFOJ6TU (https://youtu.be/nskBLFOJ6TU)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on June 17, 2018, 07:49:46 PM +0100
Not a series proposal as such but how about a 'Classic Le Mans' type series of races using different categories/classes over several races like they do at the real classic? ie start with an early 60's race, then 70's then 80's or 90's, would be pretty cool. :)

I am going again this year, should be ace  8)

http://www.lemansclassic.com/language/en/home/



Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on June 17, 2018, 08:21:50 PM +0100
Not a series proposal as such but how about a 'Classic Le Mans' type series of races using different categories/classes over several races like they do at the real classic? ie start with an early 60's race, then 70's then 80's or 90's, would be pretty cool. :)

I am going again this year, should be ace  8)

http://www.lemansclassic.com/language/en/home/



It's a nice idea, but seeing the lack of time people have to get to grips with 1 car, I'm not sure I want to put them in a situation where they have to learn several tricky cars. :P


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on June 17, 2018, 08:32:30 PM +0100
You could do it in groups. Each group has use a particular era each race. That way everyone only has to worry about 1 car at a time and we can have a decent mixed grid.
Run as a minor season at the same track - most points wins and while everyone has to learn a few cats they only have one track to worry about...

Or same idea but multi class  :)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on June 17, 2018, 11:25:37 PM +0100
I don’t think multi class would work unless categorised by decade, as the cars from different eras are so vastly different. But does mean you could run a slow and fast class.
60’s could have been f250 or Alfa’s as the slower class with gt40, P908
70’s - RSR’s as slower class with 917’s and Lolas
80’s - Grp C cars, with not sure what as slower class.
90’s - F40s or McLaren F1 gtr

That’s just off top of my head without looking through the car lists but a tasty selection of cars to blast around Le Mans and should suit all skill levels 8)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on June 18, 2018, 06:35:06 AM +0100
You guys already have an 250 GTO historic series.  According UKAC traditions, next series need to be modern (  surface mounted, planted, powerful and aero superglue, supereasytodrive  ) series ;)  :D  :P
For example, Assetto Corsa Competizione  ;)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Manteos on June 18, 2018, 02:18:19 PM +0100
For example, Assetto Corsa Competizione  ;)

Yeah, maybe in 2020. They're showing preview of a pre-alfa at the moment.

Talking about a multiclass, it can make sense only if there are enough drivers, that is 20 or more. We ran a multiclass at CORE starting the season with 16 drivers and at the last one there were only 3 italian drivers running for VDA. It doesn't make sense with the numbers we are getting at SROUK lately.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on June 18, 2018, 03:39:00 PM +0100
Agree Manteos, I only offered up those multi combos as an option if people felt the faster cars were too tricky. My original idea was just one car type per race ie 917’s one round , p330 another for instance. It’s a real shame we still haven’t got groups of race cars to fight each other on track other than gt3.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on June 21, 2018, 11:59:49 AM +0100
This is why I fancy some Classic Le Mans action  8)

https://youtu.be/lykziXDfQVo

We haven’t given great cars like the 917, p330, Sauber c9, Mazda 787, Mclaren f1gtr or Moby Dick a proper run yet  :)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on June 21, 2018, 12:19:15 PM +0100
This is why I fancy some Classic Le Mans action  8)

https://youtu.be/lykziXDfQVo

We haven’t given great cars like the 917, p330, Sauber c9, Mazda 787, Mclaren f1gtr or Moby Dick a proper run yet  :)

There are only so many cars we can use.

Sauber and Mazda will be quite similar to the 962 and the Moby will be disliked by most (including you).

The 917 is good but also a bit like the 962 and I already considered the 330.

I didn't like the f1 gtr a few years ago, but have to revisit it to see how it is. Next classic series might be a classic open wheeler as that keeps the rotation going.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on June 21, 2018, 01:39:18 PM +0100
I’d be happy with a good open wheeler series, might get me using my Rift again  :)

I wasn’t meaning those cars as a series necessarily, just a round using each in a CLM format. But admit it might only satisfy the purists.

We need a recruitment drive again, turnouts have been lousy just recently. Might be weather or World Cup related  :-\ Thoughthd Maserati turned out a lame duck so that hasn’t helped inspire attendees. 


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: goldtop on June 21, 2018, 02:27:55 PM +0100
Hate to suggest this because of our policies here but there are some great open wheeler mods on the F1 Legends site. I'm having some great fun offline with the rFactor2 60's F2 and F3 cars and the GT Legends pack which contains TC, GT and proto cars. There are a few 60's and 70's F1 mods that are also very good and a few decent historic tracks too.....Spa '66, LM '91 for instance.

I realise some of it is ripped content but most of us have paid for the original games anyway (yeah I know that isn't the full story). Just saying  :-\

Edit: I meant to say F1 Classic site not F1 Legends


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on June 21, 2018, 02:57:19 PM +0100

I realise some of it is ripped content but most of us have paid for the original games anyway (yeah I know that isn't the full story). Just saying  :-\

Honoust question, is it okay then? I was considering Macau for a fun race, but it's ripped from Race07.

We need a recruitment drive again, turnouts have been lousy just recently. Might be weather or World Cup related  :-\ Thoughthd Maserati turned out a lame duck so that hasn’t helped inspire attendees. 

Recruitment has always been pure luck. I'm doing some fun races, one is probably the Lotus Exos at maybe Canada and I want to try Sanoma Raceway, which is recently added to AC reboot.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: I_Barclay on June 21, 2018, 07:55:43 PM +0100
A multiclass LMP1 and GT racing would be great :P


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on June 21, 2018, 09:27:31 PM +0100
A multiclass LMP1 and GT racing would be great :P


So would world peace.  :P


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on June 21, 2018, 09:46:58 PM +0100
what single seaters did you have in mind? Would like to try a couple out. Isn't there a new highly rated GP3 mod car out?


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on June 21, 2018, 10:26:19 PM +0100
what single seaters did you have in mind? Would like to try a couple out. Isn't there a new highly rated GP3 mod car out?

You mean for classic series? Was thinking of Lotus 49, but not sure if that will prove to be a bit similar to the 25, so will need to try some more advanced classics, like the 72D, 98T or the F312.

For modern open wheeler it'd be the Lotus Exos T125 (standard) as that seemed manageable and not too complicated or fast.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on June 22, 2018, 11:19:53 AM +0100
Nice choices  8) what I would suggest is our resident setup experts share a good base setup from the beginning to encourage a bigger field and closer racing. Maybe run a test session/short race before the series starts to get a feel for the car and setup sharing. Aliens can still refine their own setups for their edge in the series.

Nice as it is I think the 49 will be too similar to the 25 series. I’d rather something a little more muscular like the last 3 in the list. Can any of them race each other or all only suitable for single make racing?

Not tried that Lotus modern single seater yet.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on June 22, 2018, 03:30:21 PM +0100
49 is nothing like the 25.
Much faster and harder to drive, slightly less fun as a result I'd say - unless you really nail a setup ;D

The others have wings so are aimed at amateurs ;)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on June 22, 2018, 06:36:46 PM +0100
Jeff, please explain you position. As i see we usually have 2 series at the same time - classic and modern. Now  classic is F 250, modern is MC12. 250 is continues , but MC12 ending. Next series car choice, theoretically, must to be MODERN ( yes, yeasy to drive, more aero, more POPULAR in peoples. But now we discuss about classic again. 2 classic series , will be fiasco, imho. You guys wants to have 3-5 pilots in each series? I am dreaming about something more... :)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on June 22, 2018, 06:40:52 PM +0100

The others have wings so are aimed at amateurs ;)
Yes, we know- you are always dreaming about to drive broom with 100 percents drift. True profi choice   :laugh: This way you'll soon find yourself absolutely lonely in UKAC races... But ouh yeah, profi!  :P
I am waiting for paddles car!  8)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on June 22, 2018, 07:08:21 PM +0100

For modern open wheeler it'd be the Lotus Exos T125 (standard) as that seemed manageable and not too complicated or fast.
These Exos cars  had a tyre overheat problems earlier. Needs to be tested good before choice. May be fixed now.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on June 22, 2018, 07:41:09 PM +0100

For modern open wheeler it'd be the Lotus Exos T125 (standard) as that seemed manageable and not too complicated or fast.
These Exos cars  had a tyre overheat problems earlier. Needs to be tested good before choice. May be fixed now.

There will be a few fun races with modern cars, one with the exos,  to test how that thing copes and I am thinking of trying that Seat mod, as there aren't rally a lot of good modern cars in AC,  so I'm tempted to resort to a mod.

Normal modern/classic will continue as before, unless somebody else takes over from me.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on June 22, 2018, 08:01:51 PM +0100
Jeff, what is it "Seat mod"?. Can i download it to try?


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on June 22, 2018, 08:03:32 PM +0100
Perhaps something like the VRC Jordan 191 would be a good one too? Fast open wheeler with aero, but still rather analog to drive.. And  not  as nuts  to drive as the 98T.

http://www.vrc-modding-team.net/news (http://www.vrc-modding-team.net/news)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on June 22, 2018, 09:01:20 PM +0100
Jeff, what is it "Seat mod"?. Can i download it to try?

www.racedepartment.com/downloads/seat-leon-cup.15203


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on June 22, 2018, 09:02:54 PM +0100
Jordan 191 is awesome fun, especially if run back to back against the F643.
Really makes you realise how hard the drivers in the 'poorer' teams had it. 6 speed manual Vs 7 speed flappy ect :o

Ferrari mod seems to have vanished for some reason though..


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on June 22, 2018, 09:13:54 PM +0100
How about ultra-realism?

https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/lego-hot-rod.21669/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/lego-hot-rod.21669/)

 8)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on June 25, 2018, 04:00:23 PM +0100
After the MC12 championship, I'm planning to try 2 cars in a fun race.

The Lotus Exos 1 (standard) at Paul Ricard (F1 Chicane) (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/paul-ricard.6115/)
Seat Leon TCR (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/seat-leon-tcr-2018.20109/) at Atlanta Motorsport Park (https://actrackrebootproject.wixsite.com/ac-track-re-boot/atlantamotorsportspark)

The last one will be 2x20 minutes with full reversed grids.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Fabri Fibra on June 26, 2018, 02:08:17 AM +0100
49 is nothing like the 25.
Much faster and harder to drive, slightly less fun as a result I'd say - unless you really nail a setup ;D


True, the Lotus 49, in AC, seems to have a really "light" rear, the handling is really different to 25. No idea if those cars were so different in handling in real life, i think not.

In future, Lotus 72 and 312T can be a good choise, there are funny and not so much hard to drive (the 72 is more funny). Of course, the 49 is a dream.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on July 26, 2018, 10:39:41 AM +0100
I'm going to set up 1 more fun race, and then it's up to somebody else to take over. With the ever dwindling grids I feel like this AC league is dying, if not already dead.

Maybe ACC will give some new life, but right now it feels like a waste of time.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on July 26, 2018, 11:56:22 AM +0100
I'm going to set up 1 more fun race, and then it's up to somebody else to take over. With the ever dwindling grids I feel like this AC league is dying, if not already dead.

Maybe ACC will give some new life, but right now it feels like a waste of time.
Don't give up, Jeff!  :) We  all respect your efforts very much!  :thumbup1:
But yes- if you want's a good amount of peoples in races- don't use the summer time for it ;D. Plus just use a popular "good surface grip handling" combos in AC in champs due AC tyres is not so good in others stuff . Use high quality tracks mods. If you want's a unique fanat's combos , an oldscool 50-60-70s cars - be warned- it will be not so popular in peoples.
And yes- I love UKAC and AC  :)
If you dont't want's to see an empty slots in races- just relacs and use fun combos this summer - not champs  :)
Tryed an Lotus 72 . For me , the 10 tire model ( soap style) brings a not so good drive feels for me. Earlier this car was more and more fun for me. Not now, sorry  :)  


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on August 16, 2018, 10:26:14 PM +0100
So what next for AC racing here at UKAC ?
The World Cup and summer hols have seriously depleted our numbers but would hope many return for action once we set something up  :-\
The new sim doesn’t arrive until October I think and assume it’s solely gt3. I’ll be buying it for sure  :)

I think we need a popular series to get the numbers back up, but what to race? What car(s) can we race that will appeal to many? A car to promote close racing? Modern or older?
Single car races have been great here like the Porsche Cup or the Fxx Ferrari so maybe look to another car that can be similar, maybe reflect a real series like Ferrari cup or Trofeo series?
But we also have lovely cars like the p330 Ferrari or Alfa’s to use also. Niche difficult cars just seem to create low turnouts so better to stick to fairly easy to set up cars that are controllable at pace.
Ideas?  :)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on August 17, 2018, 02:33:10 AM +0100
So what next for AC racing here at UKAC ?
Ideas?  :)
Hi Mark, hi ppl  :)
I'd prefer :
1. Seat Leon TCR Cup 2 races with first 8-10 pilots  grid reversed.
https://www.racedepartment.com/threads/seat-leon-tcr-2018.148469/
One russian league  has  tested, *some bug fixed for mod tracks , and very fun drived champ for TCR UK stage:
a. Donington Park National  
b. Croft
c. Oulton park Island
d. Castle Combe
e. Brand Hatch GP (AC stock)
f.  Knockhill
g. Silverstone national ( AC stock)
I can ask to use these tracks in UKAC. It will be no problem to upload this trackpack, IMHO.
But we can use the other tracks with better overtaking compability, for example, Magione.

2. Formula3 by RSR. With fixed setup. May be default. Needs small help from any of experienced pilot  :)
 https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/rsr-formula-3.8040/update?update=13349

3. Modern road car, for example, stock Porsche 911 GT3 RS but not sure.

But who will admin?  Hope , Jeffrey, SRW and Pete will rearm for us  ;) :)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: picnic on August 17, 2018, 07:50:59 AM +0100

d. Castle Combe

There is a Castle Combe for Assetto? Please tell me where I can download this iconic race track from. Best track in the world. ( Note. I might be biased as I live only a few miles from it  ::) )

Found it https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/castle-combe-circuit.14612/update?update=25211


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on August 17, 2018, 08:32:29 AM +0100
The new sim doesn’t arrive until October I think and assume it’s solely gt3. I’ll be buying it for sure  :)

It won't be fully released until February 2019. It will be released in parts, and the first few parts won't have multiplayer in it  ::).


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on August 17, 2018, 09:32:31 AM +0100
Whilst I admit I haven’t tried it, a SEAT Leon doesn’t inspire me in any way to sim race it  :( did I miss a test race with it? Always happy to try one out and be proved wrong  ;) but not sure it will have mass appeal either  :-\

I haven’t tried that rsr single seater either so will give that a go.

If ACC is delayed until February we definitely need a new series of two! I like it best when we alternate weekly between an historic and a modern series to cater for all tastes.

After feeling un-satisfied sim racing wise after Wednesdays small turnout I got my racing fix last night by taking a simple bmw E30 around the Nordschleiffe with my Rift and really enjoyed it. After a few laps of that I took the Grp A version of it around and thoroughly loved it  8) I think a race series using them again would be good fun and close racing.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: picnic on August 17, 2018, 10:00:32 AM +0100
Whilst I admit I haven’t tried it, a SEAT Leon doesn’t inspire me in any way to sim race it  :( did I miss a test race with it? Always happy to try one out and be proved wrong  ;) but not sure it will have mass appeal either  :-\
We did, https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=15043.0


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on August 17, 2018, 10:28:58 AM +0100
Whilst I admit I haven’t tried it, a SEAT Leon doesn’t inspire me in any way to sim race it  :( did I miss a test race with it? Always happy to try one out and be proved wrong  ;) but not sure it will have mass appeal either  :-\

In russian league this champ was one of the best for pilots in ages. So sorry that i was not joined here due other series joined. SEAT Leon is very competible car and guys had a lot of fun in close battles. Easy setup and not so hard to drive. When you drive it being lonely- it will be not so interesting. This car disigned for online battles with others. But you can check it  with AI race, Mark  ;) As i see in UKAC fun race with this car some earlier- UKAC pilots was satisfied in race too  :)
PS Agree, BMW e30 is good car.. But i'we done 3 champs on it in AC time in years. For me is enough?  ;D  


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on August 17, 2018, 10:49:07 AM +0100
hi lads. I am fine with a series with either the Seat Leon or the F3 cars.
However, there are still some other nice cars to try, like the Huracan ST or Lotus Evora GX. And don't forget about the Porsche 718 RS60. A real nice car for racing.

Still liking the idea of a F312T vs Lotus 72D or a 90's DTM championship though..


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on August 17, 2018, 11:52:24 AM +0100
hi lads.
Still liking the idea of a F312T vs Lotus 72D or a 90's DTM championship though..
Hi Stefan. :)
 IMHO , after summer days of relacs, drinks and uncontrolable sex in green fields, woods and dirt  :D,  we should use a simple driving champ cars for warmup . Otherwise it will be big shock for pilots   ;D and grid will be not so filled after 1-2 races.  :)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on August 17, 2018, 12:14:14 PM +0100

Still liking the idea of a F312T vs Lotus 72D or a 90's DTM championship though..

But can the 312 race the L72 competitively? 90’s DTM would be fun but again I don’t think the 3 cars in AC can race each other (the biggest frustration about this sim and Iracing)

Will try out the two mod cars (seat and Rs formula)

But I agree with Baikal to keep a simple to setup and race closely format car (at least for a modern series). I wish the p330 could race the gt40 and p908 for a good new historical series  ::)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: spanner on August 17, 2018, 12:40:56 PM +0100
I think everyone came away from the TCR test race wanting to race them in a series. SRW and Jeff were fighting to see who wanted to run it!

As cars they are not special to drive and actually not as extreme as other touring cars, was expecting them to have more instability to them.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on August 17, 2018, 12:43:18 PM +0100

d. Castle Combe

There is a Castle Combe for Assetto? Please tell me where I can download this iconic race track from. Best track in the world. ( Note. I might be biased as I live only a few miles from it  ::) )

Found it https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/castle-combe-circuit.14612/update?update=25211

Isn't this based on the utterly rubbish version that was on GTR2 as well? One of the worst mod tracks I've ever driven.
If not I'll have to have a go as I've done 100's of laps at trackdays and have spent about 5 years marshalling there as it''s my local..

*Edit* another vote for the TCR's here. What Spanner said basically. I thought the whole point of racing was to have some cose racing - that is exactly what these give


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on August 17, 2018, 07:47:21 PM +0100
Whilst close racing is always sought, you still have to like the car  ;) I find if a car bores me in real life then I don’t have any enthusiasm to sim race it, but that’s my personal opinion  :-\  i’ll give it a try out though.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: picnic on August 17, 2018, 09:32:43 PM +0100
Isn't this based on the utterly rubbish version that was on GTR2 as well? One of the worst mod tracks I've ever driven.
Download page said it was based on an rf2 version.

I've just tried it and it's probably the best Castle Combe I've raced in a sim but it's not without its problems. The run-off at Quarry and Tower is way way too generous and it's like the camber changes in the 2 chicanes are swapped over. There is almost none in Bobbies in this version and the climb out of the Esses isn't that great IRL.

As I've done a few tracks, when I had an Impreza, around here I thought I try that. Seems the AC one I found was probably ripped from some other game, it had no sound and pulled badly to the left under braking so I've deleted that.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on August 18, 2018, 04:06:49 AM +0100
Just tryed Seat Leon TCR in Oulton Island with AI .
https://actrackrebootproject.wixsite.com/ac-track-re-boot/oulton-park
It's absolutely amazing car. Good track convert too. The tires slick behavieur is BEST in modern AC stage. Slicks fellings is top notch!
Yes, FWD, but absolutely fun and imho authentic to RL in drive. Love this car.
If series will be alive- we can use a whole word tracks ( not UK only due not all UK tracks have a good quality. Laserscans ans other good quality track mods will be welcomed, IMHO.
AAAnd.. Guys, do you know- i have a car pack for TCR ( these cars are based on original Seat TCR mod, have THE SAME phisics, same setup . very small differencies. Same lap times. Different sound in all cars.
Seat Leon TCR
Honda Civic TCR
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR
Ford Focus TCR
Subaru WRX TCR
Audi RS3 TCR
Yes. This mod is based on other mods in graphics. And may be not so legal But we using AC reboot tracks for axample, without any problems. If anybody organizators wants to check this- let me know. Many cars with same phisics is more better than only one brilliant but not so good in car rear view Seat Leon, imho.  :)  I can connect to this mod team to take a goodwill in use.
PS. In champ case If we'll "No" answer about this mod- for me it's not a problem- i'll join mono cup of this amazing car anyway!  :)    


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on August 23, 2018, 09:09:40 AM +0100
I tried out the little Seat TCR last night, it’s not really my bag motorsport wise but can see racing could be fun and close with it as long as there is a decent grid. It sounds and looks good from the replays and nicely done cockpit though the internal engine sounds a bit lame in my Rift headphones. ( but I think that about these in real life)  ;D


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on August 26, 2018, 12:31:02 PM +0100
Nobody wants to race this coming week then?  :(

How about a fun race using either the SEAT or Alfa 33 or p330 or a Trackday special?


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on August 26, 2018, 02:17:07 PM +0100
I want/need to race next week. I've just added a Win10 install ready for AC Competizione and intend to move all VR stuff to it.
A quick test has everything seen and running, but I'm sure W10 will throw a spanner or two in the works before I'm reliable - I'd rather not have it mess up in the 250 championship...

If we're looking at a Seat cup then maybe another race in the TCR's to give anyone who missed them last time another chance to try them?


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on August 27, 2018, 09:08:16 AM +0100
A trackday tool might be a good idea indeed. We didn't do that for a while and probably less set up tweaking required.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: nfsw55 on August 27, 2018, 12:50:51 PM +0100

If we're looking at a Seat cup then maybe another race in the TCR's to give anyone who missed them last time another chance to try them?


Good idea :thumbup1:


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on August 28, 2018, 12:32:39 PM +0100

If we're looking at a Seat cup then maybe another race in the TCR's to give anyone who missed them last time another chance to try them?


Good idea :thumbup1:
The 10 TCR EQUAL cars mod  based ( byte to byte) in great Seat Leon 1.4 phisics will be ready in 7-10 days. Only car bodyes and sound will be different from car to car. Just for online racing leagues. So, No BOP will be required. Just for true competition fun). If anyone is interested- let me know. The hard work, established with all possible can' s and clean love, is going to finish  ;)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on September 05, 2018, 10:28:27 AM +0100
How is the TCR mod coming along Baikal? Any news? :)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on September 06, 2018, 08:20:46 PM +0100
So has Jeff stepped down from organising future races for AC?

If so, i'm happy to try and set up a few fun races for next few weeks as infill until we all get our mitts on ACC. Even then I'm sure there are a few of us who want our historics racing fix using the regular AC.   :)
Unless someone else was stepping up?


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: spanner on September 06, 2018, 08:38:06 PM +0100
ACC is only in Early access so is effectively a demo, one car, one track. its full release isnt scheduled until next year so dont think everyone is going to jump ship when early acces is available!


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on September 06, 2018, 10:04:12 PM +0100
ACC won't have multiplayer worth writing home about until Jan next year - The current AC is going no-where.
And tbh, given the heap of cars and tracks available in AC as it currently stands I see no reason to totally jump over to ACC


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: spanner on September 07, 2018, 10:16:48 AM +0100
I thought most people had gone off GT3 cars anyway?


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on September 07, 2018, 12:51:01 PM +0100
Not me I still love the gt3 cars. What ruined it last time we ran them is a few aliens found out the Huracan was way quicker than the rest of the pack and it all got a bit tetchy. The gt3 cars need the Blancpain BoP to keep the field tight  :)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on September 08, 2018, 11:39:38 AM +0100
How is the TCR mod coming along Baikal? Any news? :)
Mod is incoming! Hard work in last month going to end. Realy it will be a 11 full equal phisics TCR cars.
All cars will be on Hankook tyres )  My job is done here- waiting for edited skins from my mate ( for tire manufactureres editing)
Sorry - i was far from our forum due a busy in pack making. )  Tons of car bugs was fixed and now all is clear )
So MarkJ may be... TCR fun races or small champ on AC laserscans short tracks or other HI QUALITY track mods? I think it will be 2-3 days for pack ready to test here  :)  
PS This cars is well compatible with standart tracks like a silverstone GP ( not only for short tracks) , imho. Zandvoort for example. A lot of top quality laserscans in in AC stock- not need to seach any other for this case,  imho)  


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Manteos on September 08, 2018, 12:43:56 PM +0100
Not me I still love the gt3 cars. What ruined it last time we ran them is a few aliens found out the Huracan was way quicker than the rest of the pack and it all got a bit tetchy.

Are you capable to leave these bullxxxxs apart Mark? Show us how fast are you instead of accusing "few aliens" to have made an unfair choice. And show us that the Huracan is the fastest of the GT3 cars. I mean EVIDENCE, not your usual alligations.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on September 08, 2018, 01:50:52 PM +0100

Are you capable to leave these bullxxxxs apart Mark? Show us how fast are you instead of accusing "few aliens" to have made an unfair choice. And show us that the Huracan is the fastest of the GT3 cars. I mean EVIDENCE, not your usual alligations.


At CORE they balanced some GT3 cars like this:

GT3:: (Audi R8 LMS (25KG), Lamborghini Huracan GT3 (20% restrictor, 10KG), Mercedes AMG GT3, Ferrari 488 GT3 (10% restrictor, 10KG), Porsche 911 GT3 R 2016 (30KG)).

I still believe the 650 is the fastest, but behind that, it's a pretty close call I think. I think the VDA guys would have dominated in just about any car, maybe not the Nissan tho  :P.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on September 08, 2018, 07:00:19 PM +0100
Not me I still love the gt3 cars. What ruined it last time we ran them is a few aliens found out the Huracan was way quicker than the rest of the pack and it all got a bit tetchy.

Are you capable to leave these bullxxxxs apart Mark? Show us how fast are you instead of accusing "few aliens" to have made an unfair choice. And show us that the Huracan is the fastest of the GT3 cars. I mean EVIDENCE, not your usual alligations.


Jeez why the hostility? I'm very aware i'm not on you guys pace! And I am always thankful of the help some of you give us mortals with setup help on occasion. I cant remember the issues at the time but thought it was the other fast guys who complained about you fast Italians taking the Huracan?.  I only stated what I did above as I remember the first time we ran a Blancpain series everyone loved it and we had big grids, yet second time around it became a sh*t-storm of arguing about the performance of various cars, to the point where I felt totally deflated trying to run a series anymore here.
Sorry for any offence Manteos (and other aliens), none intended.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Manteos on September 08, 2018, 08:30:01 PM +0100
Mark, what is really annoying by my point of view is the FACT that me and the other VDA chaps ALWAYS tried to be fair in their car choice or groupings, or even with the legendary Legzy's token system here on SROUK. I always appreciate when I have someone to fight against, because it's sad to race alone. Is the opposite of competition. We always (as a team) helped everyone here to match our performance with the fastest guys, especially inthe old P&G' champs.
The annoying sentence was that "few aliens found out the Huracan was way quicker than the rest of the pack". This is a FULL bullsxxt. I came back to the online racing on AC just before that champ, and my only experience in AC was with the 3 original DTM. It reminds me that "funny" guy of Peyo Peev in CORE GT3 that "found out" at Imola and Monza that the 650S was slower than Lambo and decided to pick the Lambo, stating that it was the fastest car of the pack! Is quite a strange thing that he didn't pick the Lambo at Silverstone, Spa,  Nurburgring, Mugello, Barcelona GP and Brands Hatch. What a pleasure it was to beat him on the same car in that race at Monza! I'll never forget that race and my overtake on him at the Roggia chicane. My best overtake ever! What a bliss!
I think Jeffrey should figure out how happy I was in that occasion  ;D

We proposed a ballasts depending on the result of the race to balance the car in subsequent races. I did a proposal to change car every race to reshuffle the performance of the drivers. We encouraged Felix to change its car (I agree with Jeff on Nissan ;). I don't know how many discussion we had on these issues. The simply and pure truth is that we tried the only two italian cars of the pack before making our choice and we found out that we preferred to drive the Lambo. That's it. Evenmore I even clarified with Chris Redman after ours longlasting discussion here. So I really don't see the point in what you stated some posts before.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on September 08, 2018, 09:06:57 PM +0100
All taken onboard Matteo, I already apologised, but I just worded it wrong. I think at the time it was other fast guys complaining that you fast guys in a Huracan had an advantage and then everyone was arguing about car performances. (Which hadn’t happened in the first Blancpain series). I just remember at the time it was dispiriting  :(

Core seem to have done their own BoP, did it work? Not that it matters as we probably won’t need to run gt3 series cars again in regular AC once ACC comes out.

At Baikal, yes we can run the TCR mod series on a bi-weekly basis alternating with a historic series preferably. Not sure I could stomach Euro-hot hatches every week  ;D Though if more prefer it we will just run a straight 6-8 week series. I’ll do a poll  ;)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Manteos on September 08, 2018, 09:52:42 PM +0100
Core seem to have done their own BoP, did it work? Not that it matters as we probably won’t need to run gt3 series cars again in regular AC once ACC comes out.

There were very few drivers on that champ to judge that BoP. Car performance, as usual, depends on the track you race. Mercedes was faster in Jeff's hands at Road Atlanta and in Maikel's hands at Circuit of the Americas. Lambo was fater at Road America. They were really close at Virginia raceway. In he other races there were too few drivers to give a judgement of the BoP. And the fastest driver of the pack were on Mercedes (Jeff & Maikel) or Lambo (Me, Michele and Armando)

A champ that will start soon in Italy will adopt a BoP too. I will let you know after the pre-qualify session which is because it's clear that it will be modified given that the BMW seems to be the fastest choice. Just to have an idea you can see how "alien" I am in a champ with some of the fastest guys in Italy => http://144.76.93.183:50041/lapstat (http://144.76.93.183:50041/lapstat). You have to go to page 3 to find my name  ;D


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on September 09, 2018, 07:59:47 AM +0100
Ironically, I was much faster in the Nissan.
Go figure  :D

We don't have to do GT3 anyway, there're other modern Gt single make cars in AC I seem to remember


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Manteos on September 09, 2018, 03:01:52 PM +0100
We don't have to do GT3 anyway, there're other modern Gt single make cars in AC I seem to remember

I agree. Maybe with some ballast depending on race results to reshuffle the performance after some races.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on November 08, 2018, 11:55:35 AM +0000
Anyone tried out the Lotus Evora GTC or Exige V6 yet?  Any thoughts? I think they will both make a good spec series.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on November 08, 2018, 01:41:17 PM +0000
GTC for me. Modern racing car with short time paddles . Needs more test for all here. I have a questions to default ( not so good? ) setup, aero balance and tyres ( s,m,h)
ExigeV6 is civil car with old style car behavieur, very looooooooooooow speed paddles and road- semislicks choice. For fun races only, IMHO. I will not drive here. We have Classic series for it  :)
Mark, what race format it will be? May be vote?  For me ( again) 2 races\reversed still in favor. We still need to learn to be patient and correct in driving here  ;D
I wants to see faster guys testing results  in GTC car. Soft rear tyres is in fire after 1 lap but have strange low wear here. But anyway we have M and H here  :)
PS Bad is this cars have only simple colours 10 skins ( due Lotus licence limitations). But i hope that FMG will paint all 30 cars with top quality full coloured skins. 8)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on November 08, 2018, 02:19:51 PM +0000
i was intending to look on RD for a skin pack in the hope that someone has already done it :)  but otherwise well volunteered FMG  ;D


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 08, 2018, 06:03:36 PM +0000
Bugger off - I'm still backing up and rebuilding the pc :P
It takes long enough to do just 1 car!


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on November 08, 2018, 07:07:16 PM +0000
That’s what I love about this site, the sheer willingness to pitch in and help out  ::) :laugh:


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: KDiesel on November 08, 2018, 07:14:49 PM +0000
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/lada-2101-a2-group.17475/ or this one https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/rallylegends-mod-lancia-delta-s4-hillclimb-version-v-1-0.22780/  ;D


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on November 08, 2018, 08:02:28 PM +0000
pass on those I think KD...though do love a Lancia Delta  8)

I found a skinpack and a load of custom skins on RD for the Evora so we are good for a race series   :)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: nfsw55 on November 08, 2018, 08:02:44 PM +0000
i was intending to look on RD for a skin pack in the hope that someone has already done it :)  but otherwise well volunteered FMG  ;D
There are quite a few skins for this car over at RD.
Otherwise I would agree, the Evora GTC is a great car to drive and made for close racing (still waiting for a LMP1 series tho, but I also understand why these cars aren't well-suited for league racing :D )


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: nfsw55 on November 08, 2018, 08:54:22 PM +0000
btw: Does anybody know what the physic differences are between the GTC and GX version? The GX looks a bit cooler with the yellow headlights ;D

Edit: The ingame description says:
The GX and GTC Evoras are an advanced version of the Evora GT4 Enduro car. With wider wheels and stunning moulded wheel arches to cover them, the GX and GTC cars offer even greater levels of grip, both when cornering or accelerating, to the already outstanding performance of the Enduro car
Lotus Evora GTC: "The GTC version is powered by a slightly more peaky engine. ABS and Traction Control are fitted and equipped with GT3 type of tyres and 92 liters of fuel tank."

Lotus Evora GX: The GX version is powered by a slightly less powerful but more torquey engine. Has a bit better aerodynamics but no ABS or Traction Control. It is equipped with some compounds of the GT2 type of tyres and 120 liters of fuel tank."


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on November 08, 2018, 08:58:38 PM +0000
The GX was used in America, the GTC is the euro flavour. I looked on a Lotus website earlier today  :smartass:


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: KDiesel on November 08, 2018, 09:12:01 PM +0000
pass on those I think KD...though do love a Lancia Delta  8)

I found a skinpack and a load of custom skins on RD for the Evora so we are good for a race series   :)

I just did series with Evora in other league, it wasn´t close racing and car was ok but bit boring. I personally like something silly and/or exciting...


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on November 08, 2018, 09:13:08 PM +0000
So... GX on American tracks it Is!  ;D


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on November 09, 2018, 04:50:24 AM +0000
I just did series with Evora in other league, it wasn´t close racing and car was ok but bit boring. I personally like something silly and/or exciting...
It's true. For 1 race format.  ;)
But if we will drive 2x20 reversed it will be the other thing, no ? :)
IMHO it will be very close to what we had in TCR. But more unpredictable cars due these different setups and driver's hands and brain. Only for high quality ppl grid approved. But i am not so sure of that in case of last Magione TCR races  :D
Main thing in 2 races reverse format is wariness. Stupid mistakes was done by pilots due these bad wariness. They may be need to use Helicorsa or CarRadar app.
And yes, Evoras needs ( like in TCR) very good tracks surface quality due big overall stiffness of car suspention.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on November 09, 2018, 07:19:03 AM +0000
I hadn’t been intending to run the evoras in a 2x20 minute format but guess its an option to keep the racing close and exciting  :-\
They are basically gt4 cars so shouldn’t be dull.

I had hoped to test a few tracks last night but had to spend an hour watching replay incidents from magione instead ::)
I may use a couple of US tracks mixed in with some euro circuits.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on November 09, 2018, 07:58:34 AM +0000
Mark, simple do Vote for race formats in Evoras and we will see.
I'll repeat- this car has an improved grip due more wider tyres. Easyer to drive. It's good and fun to race close. Closest racing and full of battles is more possible in 2 race reverse format. For single hotlaps this cars is not looking so good- we will have an annoing hotlaps here in overall. No intriga for me here.  :)
As i see , most pilots like this 2 races format. Why not to share it in modern to have more fun?
Ps This questions is very important for me due i wants to race in favorite for me formats and cars due i am racing in deepest night and loosing my health and rl rithm here.  So, sorry for manywords coming from me in case of cars\tracks\formats initial choice  :)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on November 12, 2018, 03:06:14 PM +0000
Any ideas for next week? I don't think a new series has been decides yet, so I guess a fun race in which case I suggest the DTM with the mentioned ballast.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: KDiesel on November 12, 2018, 04:04:21 PM +0000
Any ideas for next week? I don't think a new series has been decides yet, so I guess a fun race in which case I suggest the DTM with the mentioned ballast.

Let´s do something stupid, group C @ monaco?


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 12, 2018, 05:17:30 PM +0000
Stupid you say?
Reliant Robins at Newbury.
Transits anywhere.
4x4's some place offroad   ;D



Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on November 12, 2018, 05:22:22 PM +0000
blimey you lot are impatient, not even had this weeks race yet!

I was intending on running a couple of fun races for next couple of weeks while i test tracks out for the upcoming Alfa and Evora championships.

Mustangs at Riverside or Road Atlanta was one i had in mind and maybe a Mclaren road car spec race., but yes could do a DTM test race with the ballast added to the Alfa & Merc.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on November 12, 2018, 06:16:40 PM +0000
Fun races are perfect for testing balance and interest.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: KDiesel on November 12, 2018, 06:55:43 PM +0000
Stupid you say?
Reliant Robins at Newbury.
Transits anywhere.
4x4's some place offroad   ;D



Transits, I'm in!


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Fabri Fibra on November 13, 2018, 04:20:40 PM +0000
Fun races are perfect for testing balance and interest.
Yes, a DTM test race can be good.

For something different I suggest Maserati 250F at Rouen.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on November 13, 2018, 07:13:33 PM +0000
Petes not about for server duties next week so I can’t run a test race with ballast etc, it’ll have to be something straightforward. Can do a dtm test the week after  :)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on November 14, 2018, 10:07:43 AM +0000
How about Lotus 72 at Interlagos? The TCR, Alfa and DTM are pretty slow, so maybe something bit faster for a fun race?


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on November 14, 2018, 10:14:29 AM +0000
How about Lotus 72 at Interlagos? The TCR, Alfa and DTM are pretty slow, so maybe something bit faster for a fun race?

Would love to but expect only 5 of us would turn up for it.  :(  Is there a decent Interlagos for AC?  Do like that track.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: KDiesel on November 14, 2018, 10:47:04 AM +0000
How about Lotus 72 at Interlagos? The TCR, Alfa and DTM are pretty slow, so maybe something bit faster for a fun race?

Finns are in for sure.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on November 14, 2018, 11:28:04 AM +0000
Would love to but expect only 5 of us would turn up for it.  :(  Is there a decent Interlagos for AC?  Do like that track.

You can try this one: https://assettocorsa.club/mods/tracks/interlagos.html#en


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on November 14, 2018, 12:33:55 PM +0000
Petes not about for server duties next week so I can’t run a test race with ballast etc, it’ll have to be something straightforward. Can do a dtm test the week after  :)


Perhaps we could test this one out then too?! Seems to be tweaked to run within the Kunos DTM class.  :)
Might not need much ballancing.
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/1987-ford-sierra-cosworth-rs500.24027/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/1987-ford-sierra-cosworth-rs500.24027/)



Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Fabri Fibra on November 14, 2018, 01:08:27 PM +0000
How about Lotus 72 at Interlagos? The TCR, Alfa and DTM are pretty slow, so maybe something bit faster for a fun race?

 :thumbup1:

Maybe with the 312T too, or not?


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: SRW on November 14, 2018, 01:33:36 PM +0000
Petes not about for server duties next week so I can’t run a test race with ballast etc, it’ll have to be something straightforward. Can do a dtm test the week after  :)


Perhaps we could test this one out then too?! Seems to be tweaked to run within the Kunos DTM class.  :)
Might not need much ballancing.
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/1987-ford-sierra-cosworth-rs500.24027/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/1987-ford-sierra-cosworth-rs500.24027/)



RS500  :)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on November 14, 2018, 01:36:56 PM +0000
Pity Mark  :D


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 14, 2018, 05:10:32 PM +0000
How about Lotus 72 at Interlagos? The TCR, Alfa and DTM are pretty slow, so maybe something bit faster for a fun race?

 :thumbup1:

Maybe with the 312T too, or not?

It would make sense to try them together if they have similar pace normally online.
Will be nice to have a Ferrari Vs Lotus series 8)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on November 14, 2018, 10:42:59 PM +0000
heck i'm up for a 312 v L72 race at Interlagos  :o 8)  Maybe Alexey can comment on whether the track mod is up to standard?  :)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on November 15, 2018, 12:59:45 AM +0000
Maybe Alexey can comment on whether the track mod is up to standard?  :)
I have an 0.5-1 year old Interlagos track convert from acu. I don't remember where it's going from initially. Good convert, with no problem, as i remember. Love this track.
If you dont find any new and better versions- i will upload  an osrw32pits version to mega. :)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on November 15, 2018, 08:53:28 AM +0000
Thanks Alex, though i doubt we will need a 32 slot garage for historic F1 cars  :'(   i thought i remembered the Interlagos mod track being heavy on eye candy that caused stutters or having something wrong with it ? But been a long time since we used it. If someone could try it that would be handy.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on November 15, 2018, 01:18:18 PM +0000
Anyone up for a Macau race maybe? It is this weekend, so perhaps appropriate to do something similar with the GT's, Tatuus F4 or F3 cars?

https://www.macau.grandprix.gov.mo/en/ (https://www.macau.grandprix.gov.mo/en/)



Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on November 15, 2018, 02:05:05 PM +0000
Anyone up for a Macau race maybe? It is this weekend, so perhaps appropriate to do something similar with the GT's, Tatuus F4 or F3 cars?

https://www.macau.grandprix.gov.mo/en/ (https://www.macau.grandprix.gov.mo/en/)



The only version of Macau for AC that I know of comes from a Race07 conversion and can't be used as far as I know.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on November 15, 2018, 02:56:35 PM +0000
Anyone up for a Macau race maybe? It is this weekend, so perhaps appropriate to do something similar with the GT's, Tatuus F4 or F3 cars?

https://www.macau.grandprix.gov.mo/en/ (https://www.macau.grandprix.gov.mo/en/)


Macau is a really great track. More cool than Monaco  ;) We have a nice convert of it. I will be happy to join to fun here. But. I need the TCR car for it  ;D
NoAeroCar and NoSurfacePlantedCar is not possible here.
I am seriously. TCR cars will ooouuuch how nice looks here imho ))) Or may be other good aero charged modern cars. 2 races for 20-30 mins each(if tyres will support it) - it will be really cool. really fun. really something new here. ;)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on November 15, 2018, 03:01:27 PM +0000

The only version of Macau for AC that I know of comes from a Race07 conversion and can't be used as far as I know.
I have an a lot of bugs fixed ( not all) osrw version btw ;). It's all about althruists.  :)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on November 15, 2018, 03:27:39 PM +0000
I have an a lot of bugs fixed ( not all) osrw version btw ;). It's all about althruists.  :)

It's still property of Simbin as far as I know, so they own the rights, no matter how many tweaks you've made. I think if you want to use it for a race, use it outside of SRou, but maybe the lurking komodo dragon can fill us in ;).


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on November 15, 2018, 04:39:37 PM +0000
Thanks Alex, though i doubt we will need a 32 slot garage for historic F1 cars  :'(   i thought i remembered the Interlagos mod track being heavy on eye candy that caused stutters or having something wrong with it ? But been a long time since we used it. If someone could try it that would be handy.

Tried it and it seems fine.

EDIT: But I think it's a bad combo, tracks is too slow and I think the 72 and 312 need a more flowing track.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on November 15, 2018, 04:41:53 PM +0000
I have an a lot of bugs fixed ( not all) osrw version btw ;). It's all about althruists.  :)

It's still property of Simbin as far as I know, so they own the rights, no matter how many tweaks you've made. I think if you want to use it for a race, use it outside of SRou, but maybe the lurking komodo dragon can fill us in ;).
Hou Hou Hou >:D :devil: :censored:  I am dragon!  :scared:
 :P
PS. To be honest- for me it's all simple here.. Assetto Corsa is the best sim now . For moders, racers and althruists. :)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on November 15, 2018, 04:56:28 PM +0000
Thanks Alex, though i doubt we will need a 32 slot garage for historic F1 cars  :'(   i thought i remembered the Interlagos mod track being heavy on eye candy that caused stutters or having something wrong with it ? But been a long time since we used it. If someone could try it that would be handy.

Tried it and it seems fine.

EDIT: But I think it's a bad combo, tracks is too slow and I think the 72 and 312 need a more flowing track.
Hey hey! Its a Codecs content! You can use it anywhere outside. Not here   :wetfish:
Tsss... God damn, guys, read this and delete this such posts regarding this 2 tracks here if nessessary  8)
PS Agee with Jeff. Greate Interlagos is designed for modern cars. Any single race car GT3 family style.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on November 15, 2018, 08:41:42 PM +0000
yeah tried Interlagos, didn't like it for historic F1. How about the Hernando Rodriguez '88 track? Got a nice flow to it


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on November 15, 2018, 09:05:03 PM +0000
yeah tried Interlagos, didn't like it for historic F1. How about the Hernando Rodriguez '88 track? Got a nice flow to it

Do you have a link for that track?

We can also revert to Salzburgring/Oesterreichring/Imola 72. All on AC reboot. Don't think we ever did Imola 72 as I think it had few slots, but that shouldn't be a problem for a fun race I think.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Fabri Fibra on November 15, 2018, 10:09:05 PM +0000
yeah tried Interlagos, didn't like it for historic F1. How about the Hernando Rodriguez '88 track? Got a nice flow to it

I did a race in a version of Hernando Rodriguez '88, it was low grafic quality  >:(


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Fabri Fibra on November 15, 2018, 10:09:51 PM +0000
yeah tried Interlagos, didn't like it for historic F1. How about the Hernando Rodriguez '88 track? Got a nice flow to it

Do you have a link for that track?

We can also revert to Salzburgring/Oesterreichring/Imola 72. All on AC reboot. Don't think we ever did Imola 72 as I think it had few slots, but that shouldn't be a problem for a fun race I think.

I agree, also Zolder67 is funny.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on November 16, 2018, 09:20:50 AM +0000
you guys seen this?  DTM Series with extra cars  :)

https://www.racedepartment.com/threads/dtm-championship-80s-90s.127419/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/threads/dtm-championship-80s-90s.127419/)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 16, 2018, 12:48:38 PM +0000
It's an offline career mod, so not totally straightforward to implement for us online.

I downloaded it yonks back and only recently tried to run it - the Ford and Chavalier were both horrifically broken (old tyres and no sounds) so it wasn't worth bothering with, especially as I seem to remember it needed to mod the stock car files to work properly.

The new Ford half fixes this though so there is some potential to make use of the files for online, managing it to make sure people are running the correct cars would be PITA I would imagine.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on November 16, 2018, 01:53:19 PM +0000
It had been patched more recently to fix the problems you mentioned, especially the compatibility with the last version of AC with tyre improvements etc.

I knew it was an offline championship, but thought we could utilise the cars and tracks.  :-\


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on November 16, 2018, 03:36:47 PM +0000
We can at least try this version I guess?:

Sierra RS500 DTM
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/1987-ford-sierra-cosworth-rs500.24027/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/1987-ford-sierra-cosworth-rs500.24027/)



Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on November 16, 2018, 04:25:53 PM +0000
Looks good, worth a try along with the kunos cars.  :) But will have to be 2 wks time when Petes about for server settings


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on November 18, 2018, 06:32:02 PM +0000
in case anyone thinks im resting on my laurels, I have now tested over 27 tracks in offline test races with the Alfa and another 18 circuits for the Evoras over the last couple of weeks :o  :surrender:

Both cars are pretty cool for racing.  :)
I will stick to the 2x20 format for the Alfas as that works great for close tin-top racing. But i'm not sure that works so well for the Evoras as they are better stretching their legs a bit so am thinking a single 40min race. I could mix it up a bit and use 2x20 at slightly smaller tracks like Oulton Park but it would be a bit naff at somewhere like Spa or Suzuka. I'm also thinking of having an hour long special at Bathurst as the Evoras work well there. 8)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on November 18, 2018, 06:44:49 PM +0000
in case anyone thinks im resting on my laurels, I have now tested over 27 tracks in offline test races with the Alfa and another 18 circuits for the Evoras over the last couple of weeks :o  :surrender:

Both cars are pretty cool for racing.  :)
I will stick to the 2x20 format for the Alfas as that works great for close tin-top racing. But i'm not sure that works so well for the Evoras as they are better stretching their legs a bit so am thinking a single 40min race. I could mix it up a bit and use 2x20 at slightly smaller tracks like Oulton Park but it would be a bit naff at somewhere like Spa or Suzuka. I'm also thinking of having an hour long special at Bathurst as the Evoras work well there. 8)
I just want to kiss you for you hard work for us!
I believe you will find a best way here :yes:
Long races in evora may be need a more longer format with pit. Due a med tyre wears. Not tested hards. IMHO it will be near the same to GT3 tyres. Meds - approx 40-50 minutes max if i'm not lying.
Yeah, Bathurst will be good, may be pits and 1.5 hours?
For me combined race format is good too. IMHO Main thing here is to make races as fun as possible. Real life formats for me is not so important in simracing in compare to fun, full of pilots grids and fights.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on November 19, 2018, 08:42:33 PM +0000
Am wondering whether to delay the new championships until January  :-\  With busy December approaching for most folks I wonder if it might impact grid turn outs too much. Whats the general consensus? Im guessing there are only about 4-5 weds to fill up before Christmas after this week. Could run some fun and test races or is everyone chomping for some series action?


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on November 19, 2018, 09:46:31 PM +0000
Am wondering whether to delay the new championships until January  :-\  With busy December approaching for most folks I wonder if it might impact grid turn outs too much. Whats the general consensus? Im guessing there are only about 4-5 weds to fill up before Christmas after this week. Could run some fun and test races or is everyone chomping for some series action?

I am fine with either. Do you already know the full ins and outs of the new season?

If you are going to do fun races, I would use them for BOP tests.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on November 20, 2018, 01:18:54 PM +0000
I suggest fun races like:

Alfa with 20x20 format.
DTM with add on cars and BOP
Evora's with 20x20 format
72d vs 312.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: nfsw55 on November 20, 2018, 01:33:44 PM +0000
Am wondering whether to delay the new championships until January  :-\  With busy December approaching for most folks I wonder if it might impact grid turn outs too much. Whats the general consensus? Im guessing there are only about 4-5 weds to fill up before Christmas after this week. Could run some fun and test races or is everyone chomping for some series action?

I would prefer to start the new series in january. The Christmas/new year time ist indeed quite busy.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on November 20, 2018, 01:36:44 PM +0000
agree with the old F1 and DTM tests. Alfa is a dead cert at 2x20 so don't need to test that. Evoras at 2x20 could be worth a test.

I didn't really want to lose the momentum of good regular grids which is why I am a bit hesitant to run a load of fun/test races but like I said, we are now on the hectic Christmas run down for most folks and I think grids would suffer anyway.  :-\

I tried the F312 at Imola '72 the other day and that works (naturally), so could be a good track to test the two on  :)

We will run a DTM test race next week and throw in the Sierra as well to see how it fares v the other cars.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Fabri Fibra on November 20, 2018, 05:07:57 PM +0000
I'm also for the new series in january.
I agree with the Jeff's suggest, maybe we can add also some cars to test:
-Maserati 250F (really funny and not so hard)
-Porsche 917K in some fast old track.

DTM cars are considered "modern stuff", right?

PS: I will miss the mustang race because i'm not interested in these cars; I'm sorry.  :-\


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 20, 2018, 05:30:12 PM +0000
I'm actually chugging slowly through a potential series I was going to try to flog into our spare sunday slot.....

That's not ready to sell yet as I'm still testing things, but I have a potentially fun single event that could be used as a pre-cursor to the 250F's if we use them for something fun..


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on November 21, 2018, 07:11:16 AM +0000
Both variants are suitable for me ( champs before or after new year)  :)
IMHO for  ppl in overall will be better to have fun races till january.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: kaifos on November 21, 2018, 07:49:11 AM +0000
Ginetta G55 Feels good  (https://www.cosgan.de/images/midi/froehlich/g020.gif)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on November 21, 2018, 10:17:12 AM +0000
Ginetta G55 Feels good  (https://www.cosgan.de/images/midi/froehlich/g020.gif)


Yeah that car could make for another good spec series. But don’t we have to be rich teenagers?  ;D

Caterhams could be a blast too  :)

And yes based on most of feedback here I will delay new series until January and we can try some fun combos in December.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on November 21, 2018, 09:57:38 PM +0000
Has anyone tried the rs500 mod car yet? Alexey can you interrogate the model? Want to include it in the dtm test but not if it’s cr*p  :P


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on November 21, 2018, 11:14:47 PM +0000
Has anyone tried the rs500 mod car yet? Alexey can you interrogate the model? Want to include it in the dtm test but not if it’s cr*p  :P
Just downloaded and tested. DTM90 variant. IMHO- its a not good choice for Kunos DTM family due many car phisics aspects in suspentions, handling ( for me), turbo enabled, laptimes. Car data is not packed to asd file, so, its open for cheating. As i see in support thread, author is not very experienced modeller, still have many requests for fix cars from more experienced modellers. 
I do not recommend use it in our fun races. May be only as a single car.  :) I an is not interesting to drive it after couple of laps in silverstone.
It's only my opinion btw.  :)   


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on November 22, 2018, 08:26:25 AM +0000
Thanks Alexey but sounds like it could be a lame duck. I will install it and give it a try with the Kunos DTM cars. Most of the reviews were good to be fair, just complaining that he kept updating it  :P  But think it has a base cockpit so not so good for us Rift users.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on November 22, 2018, 09:11:52 AM +0000
...Most of the reviews were good to be fair,
The Reviews thread is always has a good or very good feedback. It's a RD tradition and it's good  ;)
The Support thread is always has a more objective and more true info for mods and it's good too   :) 


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on November 22, 2018, 10:35:54 AM +0000
I just tried out the Ginetta mod and it is fantastic, so realistic. Will make a great spec series with these, high end mod  :)

Also tried the Caterham Academy car, again another great fun car for a spec racing series. Nice controllable power and caterham handling, great quality mod  :)

Also tried the same authors 420R race car Caterham. As the academy but more grunt. Only prob with this car is he's left the source code open (could cause cheating? - can we lock this out?) and at present only support paddle shift (but this can be tweaked in the drivers.ini I believe to give you stick shift). Car model looks superb.

More ammo for future series  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on November 22, 2018, 11:55:27 AM +0000
Sounds good!  :)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Fabri Fibra on November 22, 2018, 12:59:14 PM +0000
Also tried the Caterham Academy car, again another great fun car for a spec racing series. Nice controllable power and caterham handling, great quality mod  :)

Also tried the same authors 420R race car Caterham. As the academy but more grunt. Only prob with this car is he's left the source code open (could cause cheating? - can we lock this out?) and at present only support paddle shift (but this can be tweaked in the drivers.ini I believe to give you stick shift). Car model looks superb.

More ammo for future series  :thumbup1:

Yes, Caterham are good. I use sometimes offline for fun the Caterham 1700 Super Sprint. I prefer that than Accademy version for design and it is also a bit powerfull. These cars are cool in slow and narrow tracks, like Montecarlo.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 22, 2018, 05:03:42 PM +0000
I just tried out the Ginetta mod and it is fantastic, so realistic. Will make a great spec series with these, high end mod  :)

Also tried the Caterham Academy car, again another great fun car for a spec racing series. Nice controllable power and caterham handling, great quality mod  :)

Also tried the same authors 420R race car Caterham. As the academy but more grunt. Only prob with this car is he's left the source code open (could cause cheating? - can we lock this out?) and at present only support paddle shift (but this can be tweaked in the drivers.ini I believe to give you stick shift). Car model looks superb.

More ammo for future series  :thumbup1:

Ginneta's used to be epic - haven't tried a recent build in a while now though.

Caterhams are good, but none of them are spec'ed close enough to my old Westfield to make me happy.
They're either too fast or too slow and they all have the wrong number of gears! ;D


As for the Sierrra, it drives like an 80's/90's turbo Ford. Goes like stink in a straight line once on boost, but feels like you're doing hard cornering on a pogo stick.
In other words it handles just like old 500's I've seen at classic events still do ;)
The cockpit isn't amazing, but we've driven far worse mods in the past without anyone caring.
Only thing I haven't done with it is a back to back against/with the other cars yet..


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on November 22, 2018, 08:08:19 PM +0000
any clue as to where the sierra can be chosen from in game? I installed it and can see it in my content/cars folder but it doesn't appear under 'ford' in game nor anywhere else I could see  ???

Just tried a grid of the dtm cars at Oschersleben (this track took me back to early GTR days!) , forgot how great they look and sound, plus the handling is good fun  8)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 23, 2018, 11:05:48 AM +0000
Sure you've put it in the right place? the 4 variants will appear in the ford section in game.

The zip folder you downloaded will have 4 RAR files in it - sure you haven't simply put those in your cars folder?
They need to be unrar'ed and then dumped into the cars directory


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on November 23, 2018, 02:39:14 PM +0000
i didnt install all variants, i took the dtm rar out and extracted that to my cars folder. I can see it there (un-packed) so no idea why it doesnt appear in game. Maybe it needs all 4 rars installed  :-\


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on November 23, 2018, 02:47:43 PM +0000
Ginetta's are  good, I enjoyed them at Core and I should have a nice setup for it, unless they are changed.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on November 23, 2018, 04:04:15 PM +0000
This is a new Ginetta mod, improved over the early version. Really feels like a good Kunos car with improved engine/transmission sounds. It was developed with bonafide Ginetta race engineer input i believe. :)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on November 23, 2018, 04:44:45 PM +0000
What Ginetta are you guys talking about? 55?
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/ginetta-g55-gt4-2017.19598/
This?
Yes, Shaun all the way contacting to real race guys  :)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: kaifos on November 23, 2018, 06:11:48 PM +0000
What Ginetta are you guys talking about? 55?
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/ginetta-g55-gt4-2017.19598/
This?
Yes, Shaun all the way contacting to real race guys  :)

https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/ginetta-supercup-2017.17522/


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Manteos on November 23, 2018, 11:13:28 PM +0000
Today has been released the v.2.0 of the GPL mod for Assetto Corsa, for the joy of Fabri ;D

It would be cool to do a fun race with it 8)

Youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7RBP0qdP84 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7RBP0qdP84)

Download link GPL mod v.20 http://www.mediafire.com/file/1tdbix7anv93dv0/20181123+AC+1967+GPL2.0+Mod+%2B+install+notes.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/file/1tdbix7anv93dv0/20181123+AC+1967+GPL2.0+Mod+%2B+install+notes.rar)

See you :)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 24, 2018, 10:14:13 AM +0000
Thanks Manteos, I know what I'm doing today  ;D

*edit*
Sod the fun race, I'm up for the full season. Time for Hiki Waza to properly take over AC :P


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on November 24, 2018, 12:59:55 PM +0000
I've never been a fan of the lotus 49, but the fast that these cars have different handling sounds good. There might be a car in there that suits me more. If they are all balanced, I feel a Christmas special coming?   :P


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 24, 2018, 01:07:59 PM +0000
They seem fairly balanced based on a quick go in 4 or them earlier.
They deffinately drive differently, the BRM's a smile a minute due to the boat anchor in the boot  :laugh:


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on November 24, 2018, 07:22:35 PM +0000
Just watched the YouTube vid, could be fun. We can definitely run a fun race with them one week soon, maybe the week after the Dtm test race.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Ceolmor on November 24, 2018, 09:21:54 PM +0000
My server is open at Silverstone 1967 with all 10 GPL 2.0 mod cars if anyone is interested in testing them.  Search "CC Racers - GP LEGENDS"


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on November 25, 2018, 03:29:24 PM +0000
Can someone remind what ballast was needed to bring the dtm cars into line? 90kg in the Alfa I think but what was the Mercs? If I get a chance to try the Sierra today I might add that just for the test


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on November 25, 2018, 04:21:49 PM +0000
Can someone remind what ballast was needed to bring the dtm cars into line? 90kg in the Alfa I think but what was the Mercs? If I get a chance to try the Sierra today I might add that just for the test

I think Merc needed 20kg.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on November 25, 2018, 05:31:20 PM +0000
Can someone remind what ballast was needed to bring the dtm cars into line? 90kg in the Alfa I think but what was the Mercs? If I get a chance to try the Sierra today I might add that just for the test

I think Merc needed 20kg.

That would be correct.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on November 25, 2018, 06:38:20 PM +0000
you guys will be pleased to see this week is DTM 1990's style  :euro: go fill your boots  :)

I included the Sierra Cosworth as it seemed to fit perfectly with the other DTM cars in my two test races at different tracks  :)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: goldtop on November 26, 2018, 08:47:41 PM +0000
They seem fairly balanced based on a quick go in 4 or them earlier.
They deffinately drive differently, the BRM's a smile a minute due to the boat anchor in the boot  :laugh:

Been eagerly awaiting this update and it doesn't disappoint  :) I've driven all the cars now on a couple of very different tracks and they do vary in feel and performance as you'd expect. They are not hard to drive but putting in fast and consistent lap times is not easy and I get the feeling driver skill and setup/practice time could negate any performance differences between the cars.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Fabri Fibra on November 26, 2018, 11:20:33 PM +0000
I had tryed the GPL mod too. I took a few days to try out the cars and get an idea about them. Thank you, Matteo, for have linked the mod and having thought of me.  :-*

I was quite strict with the prototypes mod and I must be too with this, in some things.
Graphic is really bad and far below the level of Kunos cars. Cockpits are truly awful (probably used parts of GPL-cockpits). In some cars I don't see the RPM instrument, it is covered. In this mod body animations are good instead.

Sounds are good and in some cars really good, just few and small problems with echo/doppler (in BRM for ex.) or obfuscated suffused at some RPM (really small in Cooper for ex.). In any case, the sounds are good and cool, as said before.

Physic seems really good, very good. Each cars have a different and detailed handling. The ffb (which often gives problems in the mods) here is great and the feeling is exceptional, I would say a job at the same level of AC.
Cars are fantastic to drive!

As for the mod prototypes (but also for many AC cars of the same category, ex. DTM, etc. etc.), the cars are not balanced and have different lap times (not as much as I though). This is realistic.
This is realistic but makes it difficult to do championships in AC. AC-players are used to racing all with the same car, even small differences on the lap can create controversy, usually. Here is the success of the TCR mod.

I did several laps on Ceolmor's server and in fact some random players were concerned that the cars were not balanced.

I think, have cars slower and some faster is not a problem; there are several solutions for this, often already experienced in the past:
-a season using more cars, old GPL way, ect etc.
-give the faster cars to the usually slower players, and the slow cars to the fast players.
-random car for pilots
-etc etc.

I think the third option is the most interesting. If a pilot has assigned a BRM, his goal will be to aim for some podium during the season and finish the championship in the middle of the standings. Who will have the Lotus, will simply have to try to dominate.
I understand, however, that probably for who find no stimulant racing for positions out of the points (and so want points for all), will not like this option. :)

For a completely even championship, just take a car and use different skins.  :D

PS: on the "install and notes" file there is a list of tracks for do the '67 season, and they are the same that we thought.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on November 27, 2018, 08:47:55 AM +0000
good review Fabri, thanks. I might run these next week as a test race. Any track you particularly recommend as a good test bed?
Shame the graphics arent top notch, i am a bit fussy about poor gfx as they can spoil the driving experience (for me anyway), especailly using a Rift.  Lets hope some artists get to work on the cockpits.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Ceolmor on November 27, 2018, 12:14:40 PM +0000
Nice review Fabri.  I agree the in-cockpit graphics could be better, and the rev counters being obscured is irritating, but they have said that they will continue to work on some of the cars graphics.

If Fabri, or anyone, wants to compare laptimes, go to http://managerdc4.rackservice.org:50359/lapstat?page=0 (http://managerdc4.rackservice.org:50359/lapstat?page=0)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Fabri Fibra on November 27, 2018, 01:10:52 PM +0000
Mark, I don't know what track is better for a good comparison and event. About AC-track, Old Silverstone can be good, Brands Hatch is more technique so pilot's skill is more evident, Monza instead is too fast (giving advantage to fast cars). Maybe also the modern Imola is a good test bench. If you want try a mod-track, I insist with Zolder 67.  ;D

Ceolmor, if possible, can you put the grip always at 100%? It is better for have a perfect idea with laptimes.

This mod need work on cockpit, needs good 3D artists. I am surprised by this problem, also because the cockpits of these cars are very simple, having few tools/instuments.

A stupid question, Lotus 49 and Ferrari in this mod are the same (same performance) of those of AC? I have no try them.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Ceolmor on November 27, 2018, 01:35:22 PM +0000

Ceolmor, if possible, can you put the grip always at 100%? It is better for have a perfect idea with laptimes.


Done (I think.)  If you have any other requests for the server (different track maybe) let me know.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on November 27, 2018, 02:20:21 PM +0000
Imola '72 is also pretty good  :)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 27, 2018, 02:30:37 PM +0000
In GPL my go-to tracks have always been Kyalami, Rouen, the 'ring and gplea's Clermont-Ferrand.
We don't have the last properly, and Rouen is a bit evil for the uninitiated, so I say Kyalami as it has a good balance of very fast and very slow corners and doesn't massively favour anything other than the Lotus (which is favoured everywhere)
It even has the advantage of being a very good mod track.

As for sounds, these are just using kunos sounds from existing cars. That's why the V12 masserati in the Cooper sounds a lot like a Porsche 908 ;)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Fabri Fibra on November 27, 2018, 11:59:21 PM +0000
Yes, Kyalami is also really good for testing.

I tryed today the Lotus 49 (GPL mod) and it is different from AC version in handling, more friendly and a bit slower on laptime. The engine has a not linear power-curve, at 7000 RPM it has like a boost, and you feel it on your rear tyres. It seems a 2 strokes engine.

By laptimes, Eagle first, and Lotus, are really faster. Brabham, Mclaren, Ferrari and Cooper seems quite even, with the Brabham leading a bit, but she is also more nervous to drive. BRM shoud be the slower. Honda unclassified, I can not see the RPMs; Matteo did some laps with similar times of BRM, but maybe he didn't focus too much with that car.
My favorite car is without any doubt the Cooper, a toy to drift here and there on the track.

There is a problem with tire wear; the BRM consumes them a lot, the other cars practically nothing.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on November 28, 2018, 09:25:10 AM +0000
I like Kyalami, so that will be next weeks test race with this GPL mod.  :) But the week after i'll run something modern to keep all happy  :P


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on December 20, 2018, 11:19:10 AM +0000
anyone about for a race on the 2nd January? or do i get an extra week off?  ;D

If enough of us, Your choices:-

GT4 race at Brands Hatch using Maserati, Cayman and Ginetta GT4 cars.

or

Flat 12 engines at Osterreichring in the shape of Porsche 917's  :o

or

Caterhams at Brands hatch  :fencing:


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on December 20, 2018, 12:03:43 PM +0000
Gt4 or 917.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on December 20, 2018, 05:49:29 PM +0000
Wot he said ^

Have we actually done a race in the 917's yet?


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on December 20, 2018, 06:26:21 PM +0000
917. No brainer.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on December 20, 2018, 08:14:49 PM +0000
Wot he said ^

Have we actually done a race in the 917's yet?

I don't think we have, which is crazy !  :1eye:  I just watched them in a replay offline race and thought, hmm these would make a great Worlds Sportscar Series on the right tracks  8)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: spanner on December 20, 2018, 09:10:46 PM +0000
Yes, at Silverstone!


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: KDiesel on December 21, 2018, 04:19:12 PM +0000
917's


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Fabri Fibra on December 21, 2018, 04:40:10 PM +0000
917.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on December 22, 2018, 04:46:08 PM +0000
917's it is then  :drool:  bagsy the psychedelic paintschemed one  :P


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on December 22, 2018, 05:12:06 PM +0000
I don't understand english  :D, so i want to know guys what you mean really?  917k or 917\30 spyder ? It's absolutely different cars btw ;)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Jeffrey on December 22, 2018, 06:55:48 PM +0000
I don't understand english  :D, so i want to know guys what you mean really?  917k or 917\30 spyder ? It's absolutely different cars btw ;)

The 917/30 is horrible IIRC, let's hope he means the normal 917.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on December 22, 2018, 08:30:15 PM +0000
917k naturally  :)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on December 23, 2018, 03:35:12 AM +0000
The 917/30 is horrible IIRC, let's hope he means the normal 917.
I am not so sure in case of FMG's thoughts  :D
I think he is sometimes dreaming about more than  1200 hp in 917\30 drift yet  ;D


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on December 23, 2018, 03:37:01 AM +0000
917k naturally  :)
God bless you and your family , Mark   :yes: :)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on December 23, 2018, 08:00:28 AM +0000
The 917/30 is horrible IIRC, let's hope he means the normal 917.
I am not so sure in case of FMG's thoughts  :D
I think he is sometimes dreaming about more than  1200 hp in 917\30 drift yet  ;D

It's not that bad once you've tamed the setup a bit any got your head around how to drive it. On low boost its actually quite tame/pleasant.
It's only from about 60% up it becomes evil  :devil:

As for drifting it, it can be done - but it's incredibly hard at high boost.

Don't take it to the 'Ring though, it gives flugplatz an even more literal meaning than usual ;D


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on December 23, 2018, 11:15:43 AM +0000
ohh i thought 917-30 also  ;D


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on December 23, 2018, 12:46:17 PM +0000
ohh i thought 917-30 also  ;D

well we haven't raced this car either nor the Moby Dicks so always scope for another fun/test race sometime. Imagine racing the 917/30 at somewhere like Bridgehampton  :o but would probably use it somewhere its legs can get stretched like Road America or Mosport.

The 917k is no slouch! Bizarrely it looks faster from replay cameras than it does from the cockpit.

The flipside of using these exotica is often smaller grids as people get scared off them, whereas I love them for one-off's at least.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: goldtop on December 23, 2018, 02:19:54 PM +0000
I've been having a play at 1975 version of Interlagos with some of the quicker cars including the 917/30 over the last couple of days. Hadn't even thought of lowering the boost from it's default 80% until FMG mentioned it  8)  Exiting those long corners with high boost was a recipe for snap oversteer but lowering the boost made a huge difference to the ease of driving the beast and actually produced quicker laptimes.

I struggle to make any races these days but would try to make any of these historic series.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on March 15, 2019, 09:50:41 AM +0000
well, its getting towards that time again where thoughts need to go to the next series. What the heck do you bunch of complainers want to race next?  :laugh:

I had planned to run a Porsche supercup style series using the F1 calendar like the real deal, but SRW pipped me to it with his own sunday planned porsche series.  Or an historic F1 series using the great mod that we tested out, as long as we had enough takers to make a series out of it  :-\
A cup series using Cayman GT4's or something else.
Other than that i am open to suggestions as my motivation is dwindling.. :cowboy:


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Bob on March 15, 2019, 10:10:51 AM +0000
Anything good for me except the two race format.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: nfsw55 on March 15, 2019, 11:07:21 AM +0000
LMP1's :P


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: KDiesel on March 15, 2019, 02:39:39 PM +0000
Old F1's, LMP's, Alfa 33 stradale, Audi Quattro vs. Celica( no idea how that works tho), DTM's...for starters. :) Fast tracks & discoballs,  thats all I think.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on March 15, 2019, 03:39:45 PM +0000
LMP's are too niche and difficult to setup. I would get probably 6-9 cars at most each week and only 4 or 5 of them would be set up properly and practised with appropriately  :P
I prefer old LMP in the shape of a 917K  ;)

Alfa 33 is a lovely car and i offered it as a historics series but most went for the Alfa GTA...ironically  :P

DTM is a good shout though and the test race went well that we ran.  :)  but would the car performance differences tell too much over a series?  :-\  Certainly appeals though, as does historic F1.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on March 15, 2019, 06:22:18 PM +0000
When Shaun left RD i've lost contact with him. Last ver of TCR was not so fun for me, due not so good suspentions feels. But he told me he making a huge upgrade his FWD cars. May be anyone find and tested the new versions? Anyway i'd prefer to test his cars first and then recommend or not it to series.
He planned to build his own website but.. still not .
 


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Fabri Fibra on March 15, 2019, 07:44:36 PM +0000
You should to publicize the next things as much as possible. And, even doing so, not necessarily new players will join. I realize that it is difficult to have a good number of racers. The "virtual racing world" is really too divided into many small and quite closed groups. Sad but true.



Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on March 16, 2019, 10:07:45 AM +0000
Alfa 33 is a lovely car and i offered it as a historics series but most went for the Alfa GTA...ironically  :P

Most said they'd race any of the above actually :P
I think the GTA's edged it as they were touring cars so should be closer racing, the irony is that the 33 drives much more like a modern car so would probably be friendlier to people who struggle with the Alfa's rear wheel steer characteristics.

To go back to the point Fabri made a few posts back, advertising in advance is key. And by in advance I mean a recruitment post in the relevant section of AC boards a month so so in advance with all of the details already decided on and posted. In the case of the AC/RD posts we have, the first post should be edited to only refer to the current upcoming series - plus of course another new post added at the back to allow people to respond to it or ask questions.
In the case of a GPL mod season I'm happy to post in the UKGPL section and/or PM people I know who have AC. Again, they will need lots of notice as many of them race in the Wednesday night GTL series and won't simply drop out of an ongoing season - this will apply to all potential racers elsewhere too.

For series, stick to race cars - I can't think of any road cars that would be worth racing baring perhaps the S1 AE86 Corrola's. Tuned road Ferrari's and similar are always disaster as they were never intended to race in the first place - STD is the only way to go with supercars and they are still mostly just annoying.

I would imagine a Cayman GT4 series might get a half decent grid, but haven't spent enough time in the car to see if they're fun to drive. If they're better than the Evora's then that can only be a good thing ;)

Classic DTM should at least match that. For the GT4's I'd recommend a 30 or 40 min race - maybe throw in a mandatory pit stop to spice things up, in the recent sunday races the stops have allowed for a variety of strategies to be employed in the race.
The DTM's would work well with either same rules or a 2x 20 min format, I'm not sure the reverse grid format helps numbers though. All it seems to do is encourage accidents, which in turn put drivers off. Fast drivers that are constantly hit off become fed up, and slower drivers are totally put off because they get rear ended by faster drivers or spin avoiding them in the 2nd race.

The Mk4 MX5's would be an absolute hoot with a decent grid, and with decent advertising should fetch one too - they're one of the closest forms of motorsport on the planet after all!

Caterhams would be fantastic but I worry they'd be far too niche (they'd also backrupt me, I recently downloaded the 1700 supersprint mod. and spent 10 mins sat in it in VR getting misty eyed over my old 7 - I keep looking at R400/500's now...)

I think the Formula Easter cars would be an utter blast as they are simple to drive and setup, and have a massive variety of cars available that lap very closely - but again I fear that would be too niche as people would see 1300 Lada and and just think slow (which they aren't).

Same goes for the Suzuki Alto mod, utterly hilarious fun with a big grid (like the early grids in the TCR races), but as so many people think slow cars can't be fun we'd get about 5 people of different speeds who would be bored to death.

The historic Formula Fords might garner interest, but are just as hard to drive fast in AC as I remember them being in real life ;D

I think there's a Lambo Gallardo trophy car in AC? If that's nice to drive it could be an Italian flavoured alternative to the 911 cup.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Fabri Fibra on March 16, 2019, 04:23:00 PM +0000
I think FMG has summarized the situation well.

I would add that almost the players-number would be roughly the same at the moment, whether for GTA, Evora, 33 or anything else proposed. The players has been reduced by at least 4-5 components compared to the championships with the Lotus 25 and Porsche 962. Obviously, people can sometimes have no more time (maybe for real life things) to race virtually.

TCR is different case. These cars are "similar" (perhaps improper term) to GT3s. I mean, they make possible close battles. A type of car that is excellent for who is looking for competition in the first place, and less the driving/sensations.
Players want this kind of cars; 80% of them use these stuff. Also other groups around did/are doing series with those things. And this is why TCR had good numbers.

However, the TCR championship showed that it was not always so easy overtake. The format 2 x 20 mins often does hurries and also creates confusion (maybe just my impression). Just to give an example, I was hitted the 40% of race 2. For me this is not an excessive problem, because I like recovering from back. But for others this means quit the champ.

About cars, I fully agree with FMG. I like the Alfa GTA (although I'm not fast with her). Also Caterham are funny, as I said. Of course I prefer F1 and prototypes.
For a motor-enthusiast like me (and I believe there are many around), F1, its circuits and its pilots, have made the history of the Motorsport. Same for prototypes.

I recently did a championship in another group with the GPL mod. I started as a reserve because I signed up late. Since the second race I had a car. There were over 30 players signed for 1st race, at the last race (7th) only 12.  ::)
In any case, I've met some (very fast) drivers who are very passionate about these cars. I could try to contact them via PM.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on March 16, 2019, 05:55:46 PM +0000
I just don’t understand the drop offs over a series, do people turn up expecting to win then quit when they realise they are only 5th-15th fastest?  :-\. It’s very frustrating, especially when a lot do zilch practise then complain the car or track sucks on the night  ::)

Honestly, If anyone wants to take on organising a series or races, be my guest, I’d rather spend my spare time driving than organising events.  :nuke: :boat:


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: spanner on March 16, 2019, 07:33:28 PM +0000
To be blunt where is the fun in having to drive a difficult car, that many people don't know how to setup or drive or really have the time to put in 10's or hundreds of laps, on your own for 30-40mins. If there are not people of similar ability that you can measure yourself against and feel like your competing against then where is the incentive? and if grids start to decline it just makes thing worse.

To be fair we have gained a number of people who now race with us, so yes advertising does help. Try facebook, reddit as well, people dont seem to use forums and have created a group on facebook to run events/ leagues.





Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on March 16, 2019, 09:54:54 PM +0000
So guys, in result of all things happend to simracing, Mazda MX5 Cup in modern series will be, imho, an ideal choice. But now this series is in action in SRS site, which can disable some new possible pilots for UKAC. 3 servers is full of pilots each round. Very handfull and fun car for close racing.  
And yes, i still prefer 2x20 format for mazdas. But imho, not more than 6 rounds.
But better, give me an another such car , but paddles shift equiped!

PS . Maybe Jeff will offer something better?  
 


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on March 17, 2019, 12:03:14 PM +0000
I'm sure you will get close racing in mx5's but personally I'd find it hard to get too excited about practising or racing with one  :sleep1:

As for the Evoras or alfas being difficult to drive, sorry I totally disagree. I even posted setups for the Evora from the start and other than tweaking the tyre pressures I was able to be top 6 pace every round with it. Only my own lack of sim racing talent stopped me getting very good race results with it. :-[

Fundamentally, You just can't turn up with no practise and expect to run well (for 95% of racers). It's obvious week in, week out.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Baikal on March 17, 2019, 12:38:16 PM +0000
I'm sure you will get close racing in mx5's but personally I'd find it hard to get too excited about practising or racing with one  :sleep1:

You mean that mx5 will be dull for practice?  ;)
I thinked so too and after that i tested this car in Laguna Seca 50+ laps. And i can say that its not so easy to move this car enough fast and have a good lap time, despite the seeming simplicity in management  :)
It's was the reason that i've recommend this car for series  :)
But sure, i am not insist on this choice.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on March 17, 2019, 08:16:04 PM +0000
In no particular order:
* Lola T70 MKII spyder vs ...
* 1999 Nissan Primera BTCC
* DTM/ITC Opel Calibra 1996
* 2005 TOYOTA SUPRA JZA80 GT500 1.5
* SUPERGT GT500 HSV010-GT 2.1


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on March 17, 2019, 09:22:33 PM +0000
Yeah those Lola spyders are good fun, imagine a grid of them at riverside, bridgehampton, Laguna etc  8)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on March 17, 2019, 11:34:49 PM +0000
yup. And the Primera '99 in an All-Japan championship with Okoyama, Fuji, Suzuka, Tsukuba and Sugo.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on March 18, 2019, 08:40:41 AM +0000
72d vs 312T would be nice too i quess


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on March 18, 2019, 08:55:50 AM +0000
72d vs 312T would be nice too i quess

think its been mentioned before that these two aren't competitive with each other though   :-\ which is a shame.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on March 18, 2019, 01:34:37 PM +0000
72d vs 312T would be nice too i quess

think its been mentioned before that these two aren't competitive with each other though   :-\ which is a shame.

But we never actually tested both i think?


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on March 18, 2019, 01:40:24 PM +0000
Yeah those Lola spyders are good fun, imagine a grid of them at riverside, bridgehampton, Laguna etc  8)

Is the Ford powered Lola able to run with the F330 P4 vs GT 40 vs Porsche 908 maybe??

Nice...:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1043&v=Bh3QlPgJn2Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1043&v=Bh3QlPgJn2Q)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on March 18, 2019, 02:28:52 PM +0000
72d vs 312T would be nice too i quess

think its been mentioned before that these two aren't competitive with each other though   :-\ which is a shame.

But we never actually tested both i think?

No, we haven't. All that's needed is a double header test race. You can drive whichever car you want in the first race, but must then drive the other in the second.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on March 19, 2019, 09:29:28 AM +0000
72d vs 312T would be nice too i quess

think its been mentioned before that these two aren't competitive with each other though   :-\ which is a shame.

But we never actually tested both i think?

No, we haven't. All that's needed is a double header test race. You can drive whichever car you want in the first race, but must then drive the other in the second.

Yes, i think that is wise (and fun). The same goes for the small block Lola, 330 P4, GT40 and 908.
As i recall we test raced the Ginetta GT4, 90's DTM, Lotus 72D, 330 P4 and GPL mod. All are usable for some sort of championship i quess?
MX-5 cup could be fun too, as long as it isn't too long of a scedule. (the "slow" Alfa's are great fun too!)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: MaxVeloce on March 20, 2019, 10:47:37 AM +0000
72d vs 312T would be nice too i quess

I'm a bit late to the party, but I'd vote for that all day every day

with the added kick - if one car turns out to be faster than the other, all fast drivers should be forced to upgrade to the slower car, just to make the grids closer


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on March 20, 2019, 01:45:08 PM +0000
I will set up a couple of test races with the suggestions after the two current series finish.  :) But with the crap attendances/negativity and lack of general enthusiasm from this site, other than the regular 8-11 of us that make an effort to race each week, i'm not sure i can be bothered to setup or organise any more series, sorry  :( so someone else may have to step up to the plate. 

Will see how popular the test races are first, it might re-ignite my sparkplug   ;)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: MaxVeloce on March 20, 2019, 02:01:01 PM +0000
I know someone suggested cayman GT4,  I always quite liked that car but its similar to the evora because the tyres have quite a narrow window. You have to drive within the grip or they overheat easily and it all goes to pot.

Please dont give up organising races, having done it myself in the past I know its frustrating sometimes but double figure grids are not so bad  :)


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: KDiesel on March 20, 2019, 02:34:17 PM +0000
Don't give up Mark, we just need to found right formula to keep drivers active whole season. Max's propose in earlier post is good idea, we use it @nogrip succesfull, top 3 drivers are not allowed to use faster cars. This means goodbye to single make series but I hate 'em anyway. Lotus & Alfa series lost drivers fast during season go on because those are boring cars and it's hard to get 'em spot on. Also lack of good old sportmanship was problem, many drivers quit series 'cause various stupid excuses ( just saying...). There's nothing to loose if we do some even stupid test races just for fun,we just need more drivers to keep action alive in mid pack and give rusty shitboxes to pro-drivers...thats only way to slow 'em down a little.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: nfsw55 on March 21, 2019, 11:35:03 AM +0000
From the cars mentioned so far I would vote for the Cayman GT4 Clubsport.


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on March 21, 2019, 01:29:13 PM +0000
From the cars mentioned so far I would vote for the Cayman GT4 Clubsport.

will run a test race with them too. Mistake i made with the current two series is not doing that it seems. :-\


Title: Re: Next series
Post by: Mark J on March 27, 2019, 05:45:14 PM +0000
could be popular  :)

https://assettocorsa.club/mods/auto/btcc-t7r-mod-pack.html#en (https://assettocorsa.club/mods/auto/btcc-t7r-mod-pack.html#en)