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Season 32 – 1955 Grand Prix

Please check the Season 32 details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=615&theme=6) regarding rules and the 1955 Grand Prix pages (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=620&theme=6) in particular.

This season, races are to be run at 60fps – please use this patch 60fpsV2newmod (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Replays/Archive/Season27/60fps/). If you have issues read festers post (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=12905.msg232771#msg232771).

Drivers must complete 50% of each race to score.

The races will be run as follows:

Car set: 1955 F1 only
Date: Every second Tuesday from 24th September 2017
Time: No later then 9:00pm UK Time (30-60 mins practice, race starts at 9:30pm)
Race Length: 50 minutes
Damage Model:  Intermediate
Server: TBA
Race List: IGOR
Divisional Moderator: Clive "Evil" Gardner / Jethro

Calendar:

Date	Day	Time	Track	Folder	Laps	Download
26/09/2017	Tuesday	21:00 GMT	Buenos Aires	ba55n2	??	Link (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=11589)
10/10/2017	Tuesday	21:00 GMT	Monaco 67	monaco	??	Papyrus Original
24/10/2017	Tuesday	21:00 GMT	Indianapolis  1999	ims	??	Link (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=3794)
07/11/2017	Tuesday	21:00 GMT	Spa'67	spa67	??	Link (http://srmz.net/index.php?s=448c71de31d5af327ee46f7dfc1fde15&showtopic=10443)
21/11/2017	Tuesday	21:00 BST	Zandvoort	zandvoort	??	Papyrus Original
05/12/2017	Tuesday	21:00 BST	Aintree	aintree	??	Link (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=1284#entry8476)
19/12/2017	Tuesday	21:00 BST	Monza 10k	monza10k	??	link (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=11806&#entry125103)
23/01/2018	Tuesday	21:00 BST	Reims 67	reims	??	Link (http://gpltd.bcsims.com/include/downloadtrack.php?&track=reims&track_link=/tracks/reims_gpl.zip)
06/02/2018	Tuesday	21:00 BST	Nürburgring	nurburg	??	Papyrus Original
20/02/2018	Tuesday	21:00 BST	Silverstone	silver	??	Papyrus Original

Handicapping
This will be the first season we have run the 55F1 cars so we have decided to try an experimental token system to try to encourage the use of the slower cars. The tokens system used with the 67F1 cars is actually a chassis levelling system, not a form of handicapping. So to introduce a form of handicapping into the 1955 Grand Prix series, drivers who are classed as "Amateurs" will be given additional tokens.  This will take the form of 10 additional tokens at the start of the season.  However an "Amateur" driver who fails to start any of the first 5 races will only be eligible for an additional allocation of 5 tokens (rather than 10).  "Amateur" status will be declared by the divisional moderator at the start of the season.

There is no red zone for this championship. Drivers are reminded that Lap 1 incidents do carry an extra 1 place penalty.

The races will be run under intermediate damage with an unlimited number of shift-Rs allowed.  However each shift-R must be followed by a stop & go within 2 laps.

Only reported incidents will be moderated.

If you would like to enter this series please submit an entry in the poll.

I'm going to miss Monaco ( :scared: ) and Indy by the look of things, and there's a chance I may miss a race in either late December or sometime January. Otherwise I'm here for all of them and have voted accordingly

9:30 seems a tad late to start a race?

There is an error on Monza!The folder is stjovite?

O' ye of short memory span!  ::)
AFAIK GPL races have always started at 9:30?  That is when the flag drops, and races are approx. 50mins, so finished before 10:30 UK time.( Just right for nursey to bring my medication and cocoa)  Prior to that we have approx. 45mins of qually available.

The older system of a strict 30 mins qually starting at 9:00  was dropped a few years back when some people had issues around getting on to the server. Because we were using members servers it placed an onus upon them to be ready at 9:00 precisely to fire things up, which was not always convenient.

So we adopted a format where server activations could be made at any time prior to the race start,  but offering a minimum of 30 mins wherever possible ( there are still occasional technical glitches!!). In practice this means we sometimes get 60 mins, but usually the server is online at around 8:45 and qually starts at that point. Whatever occurs, excluding catastrophic meltdowns, the race start time is set at 9:30.

Personally, I find 30 minutes quite long enough for me to tweak a setup and post a reasonable qualifying time. so I tend to join at around 9:00. Others who choose to start their qualification earlier might be thought to be gaining an advantage, but frankly I don't see that in the grid placings. If they can maintain sufficient concentration for maybe 2 hours worth of simracing, then good luck to them  ;D. My brain cell would implode under that strain.

Any amateurs interested in this?

(Admittedly, I had tried a few laps round Monaco, but just did not get on with it - but of course, maybe that was not the best of introductions...)

However, if there are other lost-souls that would otherwise be forced into watching Victoria; then I'll give it a shot.  Until the first corner; then will be making use of all the unlimited resets!

Cheers,
Dave.

Just not sure that I can stay awake that long!  I shall need my afternoon nap.   ::)

I thought everyone had an afternoon nap ???? ::)

55 I get 10 fps
not much interest in sc or 66
and I cant run 67 as I get "could load the track" be it online/offline every track.
Victoria is then.  :-\

If you are using the 1955 track addons (upgrades), they are not the most framerate friendly.  Nor historically accurate, but do have some changes to collision objects.  So helpful if the Moderator could warn entrants, ( that's us, folks!  );D  of the track version being used by the Server.

We have a Maddog and a Francesco interested, and available to throw stones at, if needs be, as we helped in creating these machines.  Both possible Amateurs.  Compliments to Clive, for what looks like a good go at rule making for these.  Except I'm part time so less happy about tokens, which encourage less part time. :-[

BTW - Indianapolis was not raced by any 'Works' teams in 1955, who preferred to wait for the infield track to be built.  It was a long wait!  :D

As far as I know the added "collision objects" are only on the clients side, you drive your own track version.

My server does not use any mod specific files of a track, so the pit exit of Monza 10k is wider than the 55 addon track!

HA!  I'm ever so pleased that Indianapolis has been added to the sked.  I've tried the '55's there and they are great fun!  My PB thus far is in the Maser 250F with a time of 1m05.55s which compares very favourably with the historic slowest Q time in 1955 of 1m07.11s(134.113 mph; Johnny Thomson; Kuzma-Offenhauser).  Fastest lap was a 1m03.12s effort(142.580 mph; Jack McGrath; Kurtis KK500C-Offenhauser).

Looking forward to the season!  :)

PS: I was using the 'ims' version of several available for my trials.  Not really sure which is best but I think this one may be the leading candidate.

Which one Doni? You've forgotten to add the link.

Shhh...  TOP SECRET!

Uhhh...  The reference to 'ims' is the track folder name, Phil, and can be found at...

http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=3794

Again, I'm not sure if this is the one to use but from indications I've seen elsewhere, it's probably the best.

I'm in folks ;)

I have signed on for FT participation.  :)

The mod team are happy to follow your recommendation Doni, schedule updated.  Hope the track is stable for on-line races  :)

Tuesdays are almost a complete non starter for me unfortunately due to previous commitments. :(

But as I really wanted to run in this series I've added myself as part time on the off chance I can at least make a few of the races.

TTFN
John.

Last night I drove these cars for the first time at the Ring and had good fun, but I can't race on Tuesday, sorry.  :(
Ciao

Hi Fulvio,

That's a shame.   :( 

Would you object very much to having a newbie in this series?  I've played alot of GPL offline on my lonely todd since 1998 but I've never actually taken it online before.  The '55 cars have really lit my fire though and I'm enjoying learning their quirks.  I'd love some online competition and an opportunity to learn.  I plan to just take A Gordini and look for consistency at least for the first few events.  Would that be ok?

You are more than welcome! Registration processed you are in.

Given that you are new to the on-line aspect please take some time to read the rules and Driver Etiquette pages on our web site.  They are accessible via the "UKGPL home to racing" banner at the top of this page.

We will be running practice servers in the run-up to the start of the season.  Please try them out to make sure you can connect.

Thanks so much!

I'll try and do all my groundwork this weekend.

The Gordini has horrific brakes, a peaky motor and only 4 gears. If you want something a bit slower but stable to start in think I'd recommend a Connaught instead :)
I think these will remain inside your token allowance.

Oh, and welcome to UKGPL!

Welcome ReiverEcosse, we are a friendly bunch here so if you have any questions just post on the forum and I am sure someone will have an answer or advice.

Unless you are an absolute alien with 6 tentacles, a brain the size of a planet and reflexes that defy the laws of time and physics, I would not worry about taking the Gordini. Much better to use a car that you are most comfortable with and which might give you some competitive fun. The Gordini is likely to drop you into the realms of being lapped by the faster cars/drivers and if you are new to online racing I would suggest that is an area that you would want to avoid if you can.  ;)

The difference between the AI cars and real people is going to be the area that will be the biggest challenge. AI  are usually very predictable, people are not although we try to be  ::). So, a few sessions on the practice server will be invaluable.

But don't be scared just try and relax and enjoy the "real" racing. If you ask anyone here they will admit that when they sat on the grid for their first ever on line race, their heart rate was around 500 beats per min and dropped to a sedate 200 for the race!!! Trust me that does reduce after a few races  ;D

Well thanks to you all for being so welcoming.  I took the Gordini round BA for a few laps last night and yes, it was twitchy as hell.  The Vanwall seems much friendlier and also doesn't wheeze so much coming out of the last corner.  Happy with the ratios and the handling now (I just wish the brakes didn't fade quite so much, those two big stops are going to see some fun I think), so I'll take it online for some practicing ASAP.

I've set the UKGPL_4 server going in practice mode for the 1955 Grand Prix Round 1.  You should find the server in the IGOR race list.

Please try it out, we need a few drivers to join to give ReiverEcosse a bit of on-line practice against real drivers  :)

Cheers Phil.

You might encourage more people to use it if the practice session could be longer than 15 minutes.  That only gives me time for one pc crash before it isn't worth rejoining!

On my first attempt I encountered an invisible object in the middle of the track on the exit from the last corner.  It chucked the front of the car in the air and resulted in a blue screen of death!  :-(

Hi Dave,

I wanted to give it a try. However, I have a problem with the starting time. I am in the U.S., and I will be picking up my son from school on weekdays.

Cheers,
Walter
(fellow amateur)

The UKGPL server has now vanished.
I tried to join the Reiver Eccoss server but couldn't connect.  Perhaps the port forwarding isn't quite right.

Sorry Clive.  Server back up, this time with 30 mins praccy as suggested.

Hola everyone!!!

I was not paying attention to when next season was going to start.
I have missed the fist two events for tuesday races. GT and 55s
It is never to late to join the fun, right?

Cheers to all!

 :)

Hi Carlos

You can join anytime.  Just vote in the registration threads which are accessible from various places but the most convenient place is our homepage (https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php).

When does the Indy thread go up?  I want to lament my inability to be fast on ovals as well as short twisty circuits.  :)

Race announcements are usually posted about a week before the event.  But that doesn't stop us putting up a practice server at any time.  I've set UKGPL_4 off as a practice server it will be on a loop all evening.  It will be a bit lonely on your own, hopefully a few other drivers will join.  Slipstreaming will be the name of the game here, and you can't practice that on your own  :)

Hi everyone. Is it too late to sneak into this series? I voted if that help.  8) Thanks. Will

Hi Will

Great to see you back!  As a late entrant you are down as a reserve so you'll have to be prepared to wait until the regulars have had a chance to join the server.  So far despite having 27 registered drivers we have had grids of 15 and 14 for the first 2 races.  So you have a good chance of a regular drive.

Regards

Phil

Thanks Phil. I'll wait and tune up the 555 and keep my fingers crossed. Great to be back.

Cheers,

Sundays are not really working out for me and I will miss the next couple so I registered as Part Time here and will try a few of these on Tuesdays instead.

How many tokens will I have?

Thanks

I'm assuming the Divisional Moderator will class you as an "Am", so you should get 20 + 10 = 30 tokens for race 5.

The available tokens will always be posted in the race announcement.

Was I allowed in?

The Zandort thread says I'm not licensed to enter this series.

Thanks

I've processed your registration. You should be able to see the password now.  If we get more than a full grid (very unlikely) please be prepared to do the honourable thing and leave the server so that someone who is full time and competing for the championship has the opportunity to race.

Thanks Phil.

Yes, I'll wait until there are less than 30 mins left, which I usually do anyway getting the youngest to bed.

Good luck Mike.

Keep an eyeball on the brakeomitter as whilst the track isn't too heavy on brake requirements, as soon as you start to race someone you will find that you tend to keep dabbing the brake to avoid hitting him.  Then you arrive at Tarzan with no brakes and pin him to the fence!  :-)

I love this mod.  Not had as much fun coming nowhere in ages!

Haha!

Thanks for the warning Clive.

Have I got the right Monza 10k?

My times are about 40 seconds slower than those on gpl rank.

Is there a version without the chicanes?

If you have chicanes you have the Monza1000k track selected. This is the version the Gt's run on.
With that in mind recheck your tracks and look for Monza 10k. I'll be Surprised if you don't have it

I'm sure I've got the correct track and I have the chicanes but the times on GPLRank are around 2m50s
http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/php-pub/user.php?showMCH=&track_id=1273&chassis_id=106&class_id=1

I'm doing 3m 20s

I'm slow but not that slow. What times are others doing?

Do you drive in a trainer mode?

No, I was in Training offline but the car was set to Grand Prix mode and was reaching 160mph+

OK this video shows the 55s with no chicanes so I have the GT version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpeVPVmQ9jY

Are we using the one without chicanes for the 55 season?

Yes!

Track directory is monza10k get it here: http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=11806

Great. Thanks