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Title: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) Historic Trophy (66) - Zeltweg - Sep 24
Post by: Phil Thornton on September 18, 2017, 10:00:45 PM +0100
Season 32 Historic Trophy – Round 1 - Zeltweg 1971

The first race of Season 32 race finds us in Zeltweg Austria. Zeltweg - the original Österreichring. Built in 1969 to replace the bland and bumpy Zeltweg Airfield circuit, the track was known for being very fast, as every corner was a fast sweeper and taken in no lower than 3rd gear in a 5-speed gearbox and 4th in a 6-speed gearbox.  There are also noticeable changes in elevation during the course of a lap which means the downhill sections are even faster. Like most fast circuits it was a hard circuit on engines and even harder on tyres simply because the speeds were so consistently high.

Race List =  IGOR
Server = UKGPL_4
IP Address = look at IGOR
Race date = 24-09-2017
GPL mod = 66F1
60fps patch used = 60fpsV2newmod
Track = Osterreichring (Zeltweg '71) (https://www.f1legends.net/update/circuits/zeltweg.php)
Qualification = 20:45  UK time -> 45min
Race = race starts at ~21:30 UK time
Race length = ~50 min -> 25 laps
Damage Model = PRO
Replay = here (ftp://ftp.ukgpl9.co.uk:32122/Season32/Historics)

Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Driver lists and divisional rules can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=618&theme=6)

Only reported incidents will be moderated, there is no Red Zone.

If you want to remove the crowd noise on the start line look here (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=6662&hl=%2Bzeltweg71+%2Bsound).

Handicapping and chassis allocation.
This season the Historics will be using a token system which allows drivers to purchase any chassis of their choice, 2 litre or 3 litre, for a given number of tokens as published on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=618&theme=6). Drivers classed as Amateurs will be allocated an additional 10 tokens.  The token allocation will not be managed in SRou this season so (unlike the 67F1 Works and 67F1 Privateer divisions) the tokens available to each driver will not appear in the championship table (when the mouse pointer is hovered over the driver's total).  Rather, the available tokens will be published in the race announcement.  See below.

Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver   TokensStatus
AnGex   
10
Pro
Arf Arf Arf
10
Pro
Billy Nobrakes   
20
Am
DLogan   
10
Pro
Doni Yourth   
10
Pro
EvilClive
10
Pro
francesco   
20
Am
FullMetalGasket
10
Pro
MagicArsouille   
10
Pro
Phil Thornton
20
Am
Rainier
20
Am
bagrupp
20
Am
fpolicardi   
20
Am
Gareth   
20
Am
JonnyO   
20
Am
Robert Fleurke   
10
Pro
Ronniepeterson
10
Pro
Lalethor
10
Pro
Geoff65
20
Am


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) Historic Trophy (66) - Zeltweg - Sep 24
Post by: Phil Thornton on September 19, 2017, 09:38:40 PM +0100
Practice server (UKGPL4) is up on IGOR if anyone wants to try it.

These 66 cars feel very quick after driving the 55s for a couple of races!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) Historic Trophy (66) - Zeltweg - Sep 24
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on September 19, 2017, 11:13:48 PM +0100

These 66 cars feel very quick after driving the 55s for a couple of races!
Except when you press the brake pedal & the car actually slows down!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) Historic Trophy (66) - Zeltweg - Sep 24
Post by: Phil Thornton on September 21, 2017, 08:27:41 PM +0100
Practice server (UKGPL4) is up again on IGOR if anyone wants to try it.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) Historic Trophy (66) - Zeltweg - Sep 24
Post by: francesco on September 24, 2017, 10:05:04 PM +0100
Not noticed in time the car of Phil overturned....end of the race.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) Historic Trophy (66) - Zeltweg - Sep 24
Post by: DLogan on September 24, 2017, 10:17:01 PM +0100
Missed braking for Bosch lap 11, 3-wheeled car still two laps from points = retire. Dang.

And sorry to Phil (iirc), all sideways and crossed up coming over the rise out of Tiroch, not moving as fast as expected, while I was trying to line up to draft down the straight, missed a shift or something? No time to react.  :-[


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) Historic Trophy (66) - Zeltweg - Sep 24
Post by: Phil Thornton on September 24, 2017, 10:59:04 PM +0100
And sorry to Phil (iirc), all sideways and crossed up coming over the rise out of Tiroch, not moving as fast as expected, while I was trying to line up to draft down the straight, missed a shift or something? No time to react.  :-[
Yes you're right, I missed a gear but when we are driving so close to get a draft it is enough to cause an accident.  No problem, thankfully you could continue.

Sorry you hit me Fran.  I should have hit the esc key sooner.  Sorry it spoilt your race but I had no idea I was on the racing line, the screen is just noise when you are upside down.  Having looked at the replay it looks like you had time to react but it is always easier when looking at the replay.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) Historic Trophy (66) - Zeltweg - Sep 24
Post by: francesco on September 25, 2017, 07:34:15 AM +0100
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Having looked at the replay it looks like you had time to react but it is always easier when looking at the replay.
I was distracted looking at pribluda.Since my eyes don't work very well at the screen distance,i take advantage when i'm on the streight to look the small number but few seconds are fatal with the speed.In the previous season happen to me to go out of the track looking at pribluda also on the straight.It would be better if i look only on the track ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) Historic Trophy (66) - Zeltweg - Sep 24
Post by: bagrupp on September 25, 2017, 08:30:30 AM +0100
There was an appointement which took longer so i missed the race start  :-[


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) Historic Trophy (66) - Zeltweg - Sep 24
Post by: Rainier on September 25, 2017, 08:49:21 AM +0100
And sorry to Phil (iirc), all sideways and crossed up coming over the rise out of Tiroch, not moving as fast as expected, while I was trying to line up to draft down the straight, missed a shift or something? No time to react.  :-[
Yes you're right, I missed a gear but when we are driving so close to get a draft it is enough to cause an accident.  No problem, thankfully you could continue.

Sorry you hit me Fran.  I should have hit the esc key sooner.  Sorry it spoilt your race but I had no idea I was on the racing line, the screen is just noise when you are upside down.  Having looked at the replay it looks like you had time to react but it is always easier when looking at the replay.

Phil,
There was something strange with your car at the start.
I was behind you on the grid  but just a few seconds before the start your car disapeared,
I took a normal start and I hit your car who appeared atm but was completely immobile (is it an english word ? I mean "not moving at all")
Hopefully, it seems there was no damages for both cars.

Maybe on the replay, we can understand what happened.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) Historic Trophy (66) - Zeltweg - Sep 24
Post by: Phil Thornton on September 25, 2017, 11:31:38 AM +0100
Quote from: Rainier
Phil,
There was something strange with your car at the start.
I was behind you on the grid  but just a few seconds before the start your car disapeared,
I took a normal start and I hit your car who appeared atm but was completely immobile (is it an english word ? I mean "not moving at all")
Hopefully, it seems there was no damages for both cars.

Maybe on the replay, we can understand what happened.
Hi David
I know exactly what happened but I don't know why. I lost connection for a while and I was dropped from the server. Hence my position on Prib was wrong and I had blue flags waving at me whilst I was racing for position with Clive and Dean.  On the start line I lost connection enough to dissapear for a while but not long enough for a full disconnect.

I'll have to sort this out. It has happened 3 times now.

Sorry for getting in your way, hope it didn't spoil your race.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) Historic Trophy (66) - Zeltweg - Sep 24
Post by: EvilClive on September 25, 2017, 12:48:11 PM +0100
A great opening to the new season, with a good mix of cars on the grid.

I just could not find the sweet spot for my Eagle and was a couple of secs of my old PB here. I guess it is because the 3ltr Eagle is not over endowed with torque ( or outright speed!) but I have a real problem getting any heat, and grip, into the tyres. As a result I knew that it would be 3 laps before I could hope to push hard.
From 9th on the grid I bogged down and lost at least 2 places  :-\, but a couple of errors ahead gifted me back my 9th place over the opening laps  :D

I managed to stay in touch with the leading group and was tailing Andreas and using the slipstream to drag me closer. I think it was because I was getting such a huge speed boost that I overcooked T1 and ran wide. Despite a fairly solid "clunk" on the wooden fence and spin across the road I suffered no damage...but lost 3-4 places. Phil was first of the cars to get past and I think he may have allowed me through as his Ferrari should have had more power than my Eagle?? Then it was Dean, and I pulled a cheeky, banzai outbraking move at the end of the back straight, just managing to hold onto the car through the long right hander. Ahead were Doni and Tim ( both in Eagles ) so I was keen to make that a 3 way dice if I could catch them.
Slowly lap by lap I was gaining as the two of them exchanged places. Just when I thought I would begin to get the advantage of the tow... I had a weird braking incident when all wheels appeared to lock and I lost all directional stability  :o The heavy impact against the barrier and those concrete bumps caused some serious damage to the engine and I was down to about 50% power with 10 laps still to go!!
 I had to abandon any hope of catching Tim and Doni as I could only get up to 4th at the ends of the straights. Billy was a good distance behind but I was losing 6-7 seconds a lap and there was a long way to go!!
I had to use a gear lower in most corners and just try and carry as much speed as I could through every bend. With 3 laps to go I was confident that Billy would not catch me and I was able to let Tris and Lalethor lap me without hindering them, although I had been hoping not to get lapped!!

GPL has the ability to spring surprises just when you think everything is under control. So it was on my final lap. As I exited the final turn with the flag in sight.....it all went very quiet as the engine finally failed completely :o. I was able to coast over the line and hold my 7th spot, but if I had not been lapped by the leaders,I would have been a dead duck.

Grats to Tris and the podium and to all who raced and finished.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) Historic Trophy (66) - Zeltweg - Sep 24
Post by: Alessandro Isacchini on September 25, 2017, 05:13:08 PM +0100
I'm not a strategy man with token system through the champ, so my choice was random between first five cars   :D
Difficult for first 2 laps for tyre cold, then when I can push Bot was 3/4 second ahead, I tried to decrease the gap but it was too dangerous and almost kill myself  ;D ;D so keep the 2° position was the way
Thanks all and compliments Tristan for Grand Chelem


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) Historic Trophy (66) - Zeltweg - Sep 24
Post by: FullMetalGasket on September 25, 2017, 05:27:41 PM +0100
I gambled on the Eagle as I remember Clive doing alright in it many years back with the help of some tow.
My plan was simply to draft my way to a 'high' finishing spot.
It almost worked but I got swamped at the start due to the less than healthy V12 of the T1G with 2 of the 2l cars passing me by T1  :o

I managed to get past them over the next 2 or 3 laps and slowly reeled in Fulvio, who I then had a great chase with.
His car was faster, but I felt that if I could pass him I still had a tiny chance of drafting up to the 2nd place driver so pressed on harder and harder trying to convince him to have a momentary lapse ;)

In the end I blinked first and span at T1 - somehow I clobbered the Right rear wheel and bent my suspension.
As a result I was seriously down on rear end grip and was really struggling with the fast right handers and anything involving the throttle.
1st Andreas and then Doni passed me during my initial recovery/learning phase - I treid to fight but ended up having to slow down as the inside edge of my right rear was topping 250 degrees! (180 on the outside :wacko: )

Annoyed at myself but that's racing.
Well done to Tris and the podium, and also to all finishers  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) Historic Trophy (66) - Zeltweg - Sep 24
Post by: fpolicardi on September 25, 2017, 05:59:35 PM +0100
A nice race :-)
I got third on the grid thanks to a almost perfect lap, for my standard, in qualy. Start was good and I was still third at T1 very close to Alessandro so I tried to press him a bit in the first laps, but when he warmed up his tires he managed to increase the gap while I had to defense myself from Axel's BRM first and then from Tim's Eagle that were bigger and bigger in my mirrors in T5. They had both some misfortune so I had a nice gap on fourth to manage and focused to take care of engine and tires and to not overbrake myself at T1. Almost managed to fail towards the end but lucky was on my side and got podium.
Grats to Tristan and Alessandro for the great pace.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) Historic Trophy (66) - Zeltweg - Sep 24
Post by: francesco on September 26, 2017, 07:30:37 AM +0100
Why, looking in the championship page, there are 100 token assigned to any pilot that have finished the race?No token for the other.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) Historic Trophy (66) - Zeltweg - Sep 24
Post by: fpolicardi on September 26, 2017, 09:46:46 AM +0100
Why, looking in the championship page, there are 100 token assigned to any pilot that have finished the race?No token for the other.
Francesco nel primo post c'è scritto che i token non vengono gestiti in automatico dal sistema ma verranno evidenziati ad ogni annuncio gara.

Sorry for Italian, I have explained how it works tokens this season in 66.
Ciao


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) Historic Trophy (66) - Zeltweg - Sep 24
Post by: EvilClive on September 26, 2017, 10:36:32 AM +0100
Thank you very much Fulvio.  ;D



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) Historic Trophy (66) - Zeltweg - Sep 24
Post by: francesco on September 26, 2017, 10:51:37 PM +0100
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Francesco nel primo post c'è scritto che i token non vengono gestiti in automatico dal sistema ma verranno evidenziati ad ogni annuncio gara.
Grazie Fulvio.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) Historic Trophy (66) - Zeltweg - Sep 24
Post by: Phil Thornton on September 27, 2017, 07:29:58 PM +0100
I've loaded the chassis the drivers used into the token calculator spreadsheet.  For the next race the available tokens will be as declared in the table below (the table will also appear in the next race announcement).  The calculated values are automated but selecting the cars is a manual process so please check your tokens to make sure I haven't made a silly error.  There was no token overspend for this round so no one is disqualified.

Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver   TokensStatus
AnGex   
8
Pro
Arf Arf Arf
10
Pro
Billy Nobrakes   
23
Am
DLogan   
14
Pro
Doni Yourth   
16
Pro
EvilClive
16
Pro
francesco   
21
Am
FullMetalGasket
16
Pro
MagicArsouille   
2
Pro
Phil Thornton
14
Am
Rainier
25
Am
bagrupp
20
Am
fpolicardi   
18
Am
Gareth   
19
Am
JonnyO   
20
Am
Robert Fleurke   
10
Pro
Ronniepeterson
17
Pro
Lalethor
8
Pro
Cookie
13
Pro
Syd Drake
20
Pro
Geoff65
20
Am


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) Historic Trophy (66) - Zeltweg - Sep 24
Post by: Alessandro Isacchini on October 01, 2017, 05:03:30 PM +0100
Maybe there is a mistake, Francesco has used Honda (9 token instead 10) so 20+10-9 = 21


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) Historic Trophy (66) - Zeltweg - Sep 24
Post by: Phil Thornton on October 01, 2017, 07:27:09 PM +0100
Maybe there is a mistake, Francesco has used Honda (9 token instead 10) so 20+10-9 = 21
Well spotted!!  I'm keeping a check in a spreadsheet which is always prone to manual entry errors.  Hence why I posted the above for drivers to confirm.  Thanks for checking, table corrected.