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Season 32 Privateers Trophy – Round 1 - Zeltweg 1971

The first race of Season 32 race finds us in Zeltweg Austria. Zeltweg - the original Österreichring. Built in 1969 to replace the bland and bumpy Zeltweg Airfield circuit, the track was known for being very fast, as every corner was a fast sweeper and taken in no lower than 3rd gear in a 5-speed gearbox and 4th in a 6-speed gearbox.  There are also noticeable changes in elevation during the course of a lap which means the downhill sections are even faster. Like most fast circuits it was a hard circuit on engines and even harder on tyres simply because the speeds were so consistently high.

Note the Privateers division is run on Intermediate damage settings. Drivers are permitted 1 Shift R followed by a Stop & Go in the pit lane within 2 laps. Failure to make a stop will result in a 30 second time penalty. If you require a stop & go on the final lap & are unable to complete a time penalty of 15 secs is added.

Race List	=	IGOR
Server	=	UKGPL_4
IP Address	=	look at IGOR
Race date	=	01-10-2017
Variant	=	67F1
60fps patch used	=	60fpsV2newmod
Track	=	Osterreichring (Zeltweg '71) (https://www.f1legends.net/update/circuits/zeltweg.php)
Qualification	=	20:45  UK time -> 45min
Race	=	race starts at ~21:30 UK time
Race length	=	~50 min -> 28 laps
Damage Model	=	Intermediate
Replay	=	here (ftp://ftp.ukgpl9.co.uk:32122/Season32/67F1%20Privateers/)

Driver lists and divisional rules can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=616&theme=6)

If you want to remove the crowd noise on the start line look here (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=6662&hl=%2Bzeltweg71+%2Bsound).

Only reported incidents will be moderated, there is no Red Zone.

The chassis token system is explained on the Privateers standings page. Please ensure you choose a chassis that is within your budget, which can be seen by hovering the mouse over your points total in the standings.

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Ehm...race date 24/09/2017...
 :)

Whoops, copy & paste strikes again. Thanks Fulvio  ;D

How do you remove the noise on the pit straight?

Just download the file in the link above, unzip it and copy the contents to your zletweg track folder overwriting the offending file.

Quite why the crowd noise is there in the original release is beyond me.  It is massively irritating!!

At this moment, I cannot see any races nor in VROC List neither in Igor list...

I just re-installed GPL and its mods under windows 10 on last friday and my settings are :

on C:\GPLSecrets\iGOR\iGOR.ini

[ RaceListServers ]
IP                        = gplrank.info

and on C:\GPLSecrets\VROC\WinVROC\VROC

[VROC]
Address=racelist.vroc.net

is it still correct ?

For iGOR you must change IP

Thanks Axel !

Now it's better.

Looks like I'll be following in Kimi's footsteps with my race ending before it starts. I keep getting '10051 Error detected on network device' whether I try to join via IGOR or directly through Multiplayer.

I can't remember seeing that before and nothing has changed on my set up since last season.

No worries though - I bought myself an Oculus Rift a few weeks ago so I'll go and play Dirt Rally on that.

Race afflicted by 2 incident,one at the start with Billy and one at the restart.During the test i was able to do 1,4661 but in the qualy and particulary in the race my time was markledy higher.Probably is due to the frame rate,when i race alone i have 60fps constantly in the race ,some time,drope to 30.

If that relates to Windows socket error 10051,  then looks like destination network unavailable.
At a guess - any local software firewall/security running on your machine? [maybe there have been some silent updates recently...?]

Or worth investigating local internet gateway - cable/DSL router etc.  Maybe GPL traffic has become blocked for some reason;  although your browsing access would otherwise appear to be fine?!].  


Cheers,
Dave.

Very good race for me, I managed to only miss one gear so I must be getting used to the clutch :jumpjoy:

Jeep was more consistent than me, he didn't make any mistakes. I did my usual trick of spinning off (3 times) but luckily I managed to hang onto second place.  Grats John, excellent driving.  Grats to David on a podium.

The qually times were very close, it couold be a very exciting season :D

Well Chuffed with that. Very close qualifying times and I was expecting a close race. It was a real shame about the T1 incident. I think by the back straight on Lap 1 it was Phil, Me and Dave Curtis separated by around 100yds overall then a big gap back to Dave Rainer in his Cooper. The rest of the pack having got caught up in the T1 collision. :(

Phil wasn't hanging about and inch by inch he pulled out a 100yds or so and I managed to do the same to Dave. I could see I was a little quicker than Phil in some parts of the lap but he was destroying me from the Bosch Kurve all the way through to Schikane. I had had problems with that part of the lap all through qualifying and I just couldn't seem to get it right at all but was able to claw the gap down from Rindt  Kurve all the way through to Dr. Tiroch Kurve.

Then around Lap 5 he put 2 wheels on the grass exiting Tiroch and I was almost back on his tail by Bosch. Fortunatly for me I was still around 50yds back when he spun into the barrier and I just about had time to shave off enough speed to pass on the inside as he recovered. The next few laps were spent with Phil large in my mirrors until he spun again entering Tiroch and Prib told me my 50yd advantage had suddenly become more like 300. A few laps later it leapt again to 500 and I could see Dave was now with him.

From then onwards I just concentrated on my lines while keeping a watch on Prib to make sure he wasn't getting too close. I had a few moments noticeably a big kick cresting the brow into T1 and ended up taking the long way around glancing off the barrier. This put Phil back within about 300yds but I was able to manage the gap in the final laps.

So a very unexpected win Congrats to Phil for 2nd and a great drive from Dave rounding off the podium in his Cooper.

Commiserations for those involved in the incident at the start. :(

Thanks guys.

TTFN
John.
 

Congrats podium! I qualified in 5th, and finished in 5th. I wasted a little time recovering from the T1 incident. I eventually rejoined the race. My engine blew up a lap later. I did a stop and go, and then all was good. The Cooper handled great in each corner. I was only able to get into the 1:47s twice. That was a PB for me in the Cooper.

I normally don't feel comfortable behind the wheel of the 67 F1 cars. They are a blast when you find a good set-up.

I had done about 23 moderately paced laps without even the slightest thought of wandering about in the weeds when John Hammonds appeared in my mirrors to lap me. To demonstrate to the leader how skillfully I was maneuvering my way from here to there, I proceeded to slide off the track to the right, perform a perfect pirouette, and return to the pavement effortlessly.  As John disappeared in the distance, I could hear him laughing. That cost me maybe 15 seconds, though I'm not sure it was worth the trouble.

Qualifying was the high point of the race, just .05 off pole. Could have been quite a race if not for the T1 incident. Will check the replay. After that I managed to recover to join the battle with Rainier & Curtis but overran & hit the barriers at Trioch twice & overcooked the engine late on.
Good to see some old faces back on the grid. I know Mike, Geoff & Jack will be much quicker once they get to grips with the 67s.
Mike T - sorry to heat you had connection issues. Sam had something similar on the Works grid, so worth posting on their race thread.

Yes this race could have been very closed between 5 or 6 racers without this T1 incident.
When I saw Francesco overtaking me before the 1st turn, I said to myself "slow down, I'm sure something bad will happen", unfortunately I couldn't avoid Billy's car.
But I was lucky as my car wasn't damaged.
After that, I was 4th and the 3 leaders were around 10-12 seconds ahead : John, Phil and Dave C.
I could close  the gap with Dave C and overtook it.
But there were still 12 - 14 seconds with Phil and John ...until I saw Phil's car.
During several laps I stayed 2-3 seconds behind Phil, when I made a big mistake trying to overtake at the wrong place Jack's BRM. I was too impatient trying to follow Phil's Brabham.
I lost lot of seconds   and Dave C. overtake me.
I could quickly take again the 3rd place.

This race was very fun from 1st to last lap. Maybe it could have been more without this T1 incident.
We'll see what the moderators will decide but once again we should repeat "Don't take too much risks in the 1st turn of the 1st lap ! We rarely could win a race in the first turn but we very often lost the race on it"  

REED, MARQUE, LEARN: THE JACK O’FERRALL STORY

Zeltweg October 1st

The announcer at the new Zeltweg circuit was oddly portentous, as if bad Henry Fonda were to announce to a cheering crowd the end of democracy and the beginning of a new tyranny.  I realise that might not please everyone.  It might even have put me off, as I spent the time before the race alone, although this was also because there seemed no mention of a driver's room in the Formula One handbook.  I am not strictly a beginner despite my long and unsought separation from the track and perhaps I should have recalled the existence of one, however why miss an opportunity to place blame on a guide-writer?

The times were not good, I admit.  Perhaps not yet inspiring the commentator's get off the track before smoking kills me bad, but bad all the same.  Tom gloated afterwards. 'So, Fast O'Ferrall back among the Loot charmed circle again. At least you have just enough speed left to race, by about half a second I reckon.  If we had to pull out it would have been gay as gay Bond, if gay Bond were from Liverpool that is.'  Sometimes Tom needs his face punched.  'You're giving me that Mister Punch look again, you should blame Gerry he said he wanted some weight in the back for balance, I'd have imagined an engine would be more useful. The other missing weapon in our armoury.  However I only promote the team, I can't build and drive the car as well, if you catch my drift.  At least the American guy won, always goes down well with the crowd that counts.'

Yeah Tom, always easy to be quick with a quip. All the way with LBJ, that was marketing Vietnam, at least its contemporary.  Mister Punch would be so last century if last century happened to be the Restoration.  When you have to spend two-thirds of your race in an attempt to anticipate how to allow the pack past, there seems space for philosophy.  Just off the racing line, a more appropriate place for an engineer, you might imagine.  The only compliment paid to the H-16 was at least no-one would want to copy it, perhaps Jimmy should have stayed with it.  The will to power of the Superman is necessary to prevail over the eternal recurrence.  Faust that's German for fist, he made a pact with the devil.  Just don't be Kennedy, never eat the last part of the doughnut.  Or the strudel.  Don't eat a hotdog from trackside vendors either, even if it doesn't qualify as a philosophy.  Goodnight.     

Like Raikkonen i have done a good start but i have found my Verstappen :D
But if Billy is also the moderator how is possible a neutral judgment of the incident?

Nobody moderates their own incidents.

Dean is quite right.  Moderators do not moderate their own incidents.  There are several other moderators who can look at this incident.  Billy will not be involved.

OK,thank you.

Generally, we try & avoid a moderator having to moderate a series that he drives in. In the past we have not always had enough moderators to do this. For season 31 & 32 the 67 series mod team is me & Sam. I moderate the Works division & Sam does the Privateers. If a driver is unhappy with a moderators decision they can make an appeal.

Yes, believe it or not this is only my second attempt at 67s and I probably took the wrong car in the twitchy BT24.

I could never get heat in the front tyres and they stayed blue the whole time.
I think I'll take the more conservative Cooper for Rouen and see if I can keep it pointed the right way.
I was mainly dealing with where the car put me rather than putting it where I wanted to.

BT24 is not "the wrong car" in Zeltweg, look at the podium ...

Cooper is slow for Rouen.

 

Oh no, agreed. I should have said wrong car for me first time out. I hadn't had enough practise and didn't have a great set up. The BT24 is quite twitchy anyway being so short and I should have played a bit more safe.


It is but I need to keep pointing the right way until I get used to the cars which I'm hoping I can do in the Cooper.

I'm also missing at least 1 race so I can save some tokens for later in the season.

For me, I couldn't find very many set ups for Zeltweg. I found a good one for the Lotus and one for the Cooper. I also thought the Brabham was a little twitchy.   

It should be much easier finding setups for Rouen. The Brabham will most likely be my top pick. If I have time, I'll try several cars to help me decide which one to take.

Mod report published.

To those that aren't aware please make reference to the link https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/overlap (https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/overlap) It's a great reference showing just how large the blindspots are when racing in GPL.