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Round 1 - Brands Hatch GP

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October 18th - Password entry (on day of race)

Practise: 19:30 (45 mins)
Qual: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30   30 minutes

Cars allowed:
Lotus 25

SKINPACK (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=14558.msg265319#msg265319). Top of driver's list on the opening post.

Track:  Brand Hatch GP


Live Timing: stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat (http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Weather: Clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: Not required

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=100
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=0
SESSION_TRANSFER=N/a

Damage: 70%

Password: see above (#post_event_password)

PLP App - Not used in this series. Cutting will be monitored on replay and penalties issued for excessive cutting.

Notes:
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(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page

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I posted a setup on stracker. It's basically the default setup with the right gearing and tyre pressure and some other tweaks which were basic tweaks based on absolutely no idea  ;D

Thats basically how I make all my setups. ;D

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Just been on the server, for some reason I couldn't see your setup Jeff :( I'm sure when I find it I'll also find the 6 seconds I need to be on the pace  :'(

No feeling at all with this car for me.
I will try Jeffrey's setup but I guess that I won't find the 3 seconds that separate us. Another difficult season in sight  :wheelchair:

I send it to myself the first time  ::). It should be there now, but note, it's just a few tweaks here and there and purely the setup I used for my time so far.


You did a whopping...2 laps  :P

Can you please change the welcoming message when you have the time :).

I did more than that, I wrote at least one car off. I do admit I didn't do many though.

Doh, spotted that last night and totally forgot about it  ::) Off to do it now.......

1:43?!...flipping heck  :o

thought I was getting the hang of these mosquitoes on wheels with a 1:46  :laugh:

Posted a V2 of my setup. Some settings are set to their maximum, more as a test, but I went faster with it, so I stick with it for now  :P

got down to the 45's after about half hour online but think I need to buy this https://www.dukevideo.com/prd3397DA/Preparing-A-Single-Seater-Duke-Archive-DVD (https://www.dukevideo.com/prd3397DA/Preparing-A-Single-Seater-Duke-Archive-DVD)

 :-[ :laugh:

Jeff went even quicker to add to the demoralisation...1:42 !  :surrender:

grr, i've hit my glass ceiling at 1:45  :(  no matter what I try setup wise or lines taken I cannot seem to better my time  :'(  Frustrating. I've watched other drivers doing quick times but cant really see anything that stands out to give them such a time advantage. :-\

Look at the graph on stracker. You approach T1 at a lower pace, so your exit out of the last corner isn't good and you brake too early and too hard for T1.

In general you seem to brake too much and not carry enough speed through the corner. Maybe apply more steering lock and be less smooth  :P.

Every time I set my fastest lap, there are people beating it immediatly  ::). Not sure what setup they use, but it would be appreciate to share it amongst eachother  :angel:

Are you guys dropping to 2nd out of clearways? The car just won't turn in early enough to get on the power, also the problem I have at t1. If I brake late there it just understeers off to the left.

IIRC, I'm in 3rd through clearways and I can't remember the car being low in revs there. Looks like you brake the same as the leadlap, but have a worst exit. Could be setup or maybe keep the car a bit tighter at the beginning of the corner and really straighten the car on the exit.

For T1, just let it roll and not brake too much. Slam the brakes and then steer the car with throttle towards the apex.

Quite frustrating reading all these,  I  have no idea what my times are in comparison and no way to find out!  ;D
Mark, these really need throwing about as they naturally understeer. Have a good play with the diff settings when suspension stops helping you.

I usually run very low coast, to get the car to turn in. I'm not really fussed about instability under braking, as I often keep a bit of throttle to keep it stable.

I tried maximum power diff on this car to see how that feels, and I was immediatly 0.2s faster coming out of some corners, probably due to better traction, but I didn't feel the negatives of it. So I guess I'll leave it at that, it's just a bit annoying to just guess these settings and not really have any idea why it works.

There are definitely disadvantages, try curve grande at monza 66 with power and coast set mega tight
You won't make it very many times....  :D

I'm enjoying driving the car, just frustrated that I haven't improved my time in the last 30 laps  :( which is odd, though not got much single seater experience sim or real  :-\
You guys up front all using stick shifts? Sometimes think it's just down to type of controllers being used. My th8 feels authentic,  but not as fast as someone using paddles naturally.
I probably just need more laps with this car.

Plenty of scope for errors during the race and several are on similar pace so should be good fun  :)

So let me get this right, when it comes to qually and the race you have the option of using stick or paddle, hardly seems fair.

 ;D May just bin the TH8 shifter and go automatic, presume that's allowed for over seventies. ;D ;D ;D

Where do you read that?


Only if you send that TH8 my way  ;D. Bribing is absolutely allowed here  :angel:

My quickest race setup lap is currently around a 1:50. Hardly done any racing lately so doubt if that will improve before Wednesday  ::)

Meant th8 shifter earlier  :-[.

It'll look like this Wednesday eve  8)
https://www.facebook.com/MotorFanatics27/videos/1761896367447715/ (https://www.facebook.com/MotorFanatics27/videos/1761896367447715/)

Or this:

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From Marks entry #18 above sort of implied it and also when you look at stracker laptimes some have "paddle", some have "other", I have "H shifter" and some just have "-" under the shifter section

As these cars are quite different from the usual cars (still 4 wheels, same pedals and basic gears mind you!) I thought I'd better do at least a little bit of practice if I had time, so I've done 5 laps. :o ;D Looking forward to the event as I'm already ahead of Jonzo and he's done 10x as many laps as me so I can only get better from there (assuming I make it past lap 1 without sending myself into the kitty litter)

P.S. Thanks for sharing your setup Jeff! ;) ;D

Had a decent lap this evening after lots of crashing  ;D

Slowly getting the hang of heel and toeing, though it makes driving consistent laps abit tricky.

And for some reason I wasn't able to download your setup Jeff. Whenever I try to load it just doesn't to anything. May need to update my ptracker or something me thinks  8)

I don't really see his post implying that. You can use any type of shifter for these cars, but I don't think you can switch between sessions. I also don't see any type being an advantage, the leader of the timings has H pattern, next one uses something else and I am using the paddles. People without any info aren't using stracker I think.


Shots fired  ;D


I haven't updated in ages, but I sometimes have that issue with the setupmarket, when it just doesn't want to download certain setups. No idea what causes it, but I think a rejoin often works, so maybe it works tonight  ???.

Personally I think that the only advantage comes when driving cars that are more similar to what you normally drive (if, like me, you force yourself to use the authentic controls for each car).
I like manual classics with no aids in real life so always perform better in them.
Stuff where heal/toeing is a requirement is a massive boost to me as I have to do that anyway in one of my road cars  ;D
Flappy paddles on the otherhand are a major annoyance as I always feel less in control..

That said unless autoblip is enabled for paddles/auto I can't see anyway for those methods to be as fast in the 25's consistently.

I can't seem to find the password for tonights race yet.

Quote from Mark, "You guys up front all using stick shifts? Sometimes think it's just down to type of controllers being used. My th8 feels authentic,  but not as fast as someone using paddles naturally."

Perhaps we're just talking at cross purposes here.

My point is that the 25 should be driven using the mechanics that were actually on the real car ie not paddles or auto blipping but just using the stick shift. It seems to make a nonsense to me to do otherwise, or am I just being an old fuddy duddy purist?

If you buy me a stick, I'll use it  :P

Well if you haven't got a stick shift and paddle is proven to be quicker then perhaps your car should be ballasted??

These L25 cars are quite tricky to control and having both hands on the wheel has got to be an advantage surely??

I use paddles, I could connect the stick to my G25, but I won't be bothering any of the fastest people
whether I use a stick or the paddles so don't see it as an issue.

My problem with these cars is that they remind me of the Cobras in GTL, they wander about the road
even hanging on tight to the wheel, the brake bias is so far forward my fronts lock up for fun even with
the bias set all the way to the rear, and the engine braking is insane, I have to remember to not change down
approaching a corner or it will spin off every time. Perhaps if I blipped properly that would not be such an issue.
My best is a high 48, I can do 49s fairly regular, but a 42 is alien territory.

I'd have to agree with Chris in that using paddles gives a big advantage over manual shifting. My th8 is mounted on my low left (like a real car) and does mean steering one handed and downshifting into apexes, so as he says, having both hands on the wheel is an advantage and pretty sure the paddle shift 'click' itself is much quicker than a manual shift and also lessens the chance of mis-shifting/fumbling.
But having said that I'd much rather use the realistic shifter for old cars even if it does lose me tenths  :euro:

Gawd I'm slow in these compared to Gt cars  :'( I was hoping these cars would really close the field up but my gap to aliens has got wider  :'( couldn't do any further practise last night as I was too fubared from work  :(

Bet these look great from the cockpit with a vr headset, I'm tempted to get one but want to try it out first plus I may as well wait for v2 now

I'm sure I've read somewhere that H-pattern shifting is actually faster in AC than paddle-shifting with the old cars - or did I imagine that? Although yes, there is the increased likelihood of mis-shifting with H-pattern - I do it at least once or twice per race..

Aliens will be faster than us mortals whatever controller they use.

Hmm, just noticed on stracker that I'm listed as using Auto throttle blip for some reason. I'm definitely not, all aids are turned off. Maybe it does not always report controller method or aids used accurately?

I can't see a setting in the server config files to influence auto blip unless it's tied in to auto clutch, which we allow as not everyone has a clutch pedal.

That's been fixed, you should see it now

The fastest lap is set with an H pattern  ::). I used a stick in GTR2 and GTL, untill it wore and i can quarantee you, it doesn't matter if you have 2 hands on the wheel or not. Even with paddles, when the car needs a lot of steering lock, I switch to 1 hand, or else my arms get tangles up  :P.


I can remember reading something about that as well a long time ago. I think paddles get some sort up shifting delay penalty. The fact that mis-shifting is harder with paddles is something I agree on.


Not sure how accurate stracker, but I sometimes see aids on behind my name, eventhough I think I have everything turned off. Even auto blip somewhere in a config file.

I drive with paddles (my G25 H shifter is broken and I won't buy one to please someone :)) and I'm usually on fastest drivers' laptimes here. This time seems that I'm taking 3 seconds by the fastest drivers, and I'm still with paddles, like ever.
This 'logic' regarding faster laptimes made with paddles compared with H shifter is simply full of holes.

It's more a setup/car combo issue. I don't drive cars like these since the exit of GPL, i.e when I was 13. I will need a bit more training and a better setup to be near the fastest guys. Probably I won't be near at all even with some more training, but I'll never say that paddles or H shifter make a great difference in terms of laptimes. It's simply untrue and the fastest laptimes on this server was set with an H shifter.

So, really, what are we talking about?  ::)

See you later ;)

Not bothered in context of this racing but a paddle shift racecar is faster than its manual shift equivalent, unless you know more than Porsche or Ferrari engineers who developed their pdk/paddle shift systems at great expense   ;)

I know the Porsche pdk/paddle shift very well in real life Mark, it's clearly not a surprise what you say.

At the same time it shouldn't be a surprise for you the fact that you won't gain 3 seconds per lap with 20/30 upshifts during a lap on a sim simply using paddles instead of H stick shift. In GTR2/P&G, for example, driving with manual clutch or auto clutch made a laptime difference of approx 2/3 tenths per lap.
Jeffrey mentioned a time delay for paddles he read long time ago. Maybe that could convert in some tenths lost every lap, but 3 seconds... you understand... seems too much to me to 'accuse' the use of paddles or H shifter to be the cause of my distance by the leaders.

I regret when someone point out some 'unfair advantage' to his competitors without having any proof to demonstrate his theory. In this case the laptimes setted until now destroy the 'paddle is faster than H shifter theory'. It's like talking nonsense. Seems like trolling.  ;D

Yeah, manual clutch gave me more control in GTR2/GTL, which resulted in faster laptimes. But it also became slightly harder to do, so it was all about risk/reward.


This might be where I read or: http://www.racedepartment.com/threads/do-paddle-shifter-manual-shift-affect-performance.122509/


 :yes:

It may be a bit late in the day to ask :)   but how to change gear without wrecking the transmission?

I have a G25/use H-shifter for GPL [clutch for starts, but not much otherwise].   However, when jumping on the test server I was aware of seeing a damage screen pop-up that I have not seen before & car lasts maybe 2 laps before keeling over.

Every change seems to take a couple of seconds to avoid sitting in neutral.
Even with a brainwave of trying to actually use the clutch for up & down, it seems every change is causing damage.

Setting auto-clutch didn't seem to actually do anything?  I resorted to auto-gears, then manually intervening with flappy paddles  [I don't get on with them anyway];  with which at lease I was able to complete about 36laps in total last night; despite the car sounding like a tractor.


If I'm not scared off by the real event; I'll try to keep well out of the way when you all come round again (and again).


Cheers,
Dave.

One of the options in the setup window is engine limit. If you put that too high, it will start to damage the car very quickly.

My monitor is playing up again so I'll miss this round  :( Hope to make next week....have fun  :)

That was alot more fun then I thought it'd be  ;D
Quali went better then expected and I ended up 3rd. Start was quite clean aswell. Following Chris and Jeffrey the first lap, few mistakes here and there and a few swapping places with Jeffrey and Felix but overall a very clean start. ( had a little tap from Felix at one point which totally ruined my rear as I had no downforce anymore whatsoever...  :P )

Was 3rd around halfway, doing some pretty consistent laps to my own suprise. And just when I was congratulating myself on it I manage to shift back to 2nd instead of 4th for the fast right hander.....  ::)
Had a great fight with PorcoRosso ( twice as I spun out after a while ). The 2nd was in the 2nd to last lap where I just managed to get by before the finish line....only to find out theres still a lap to go  ;D
Which meant doing another beautiful pirouette  8)

All in all a pretty good race, these cars are more fun to battle then I thought they would. I was expecting mayham in the first few laps  ;D

I have to miss the race next week unfortunately.

That was great fun  :)

I shouldn't be pleased with 8th, but I am!  ;D

Pre race warmup made me think I'm in for a long night as I seemed to be getting slower than faster, but tried a lower gearbox ratio and suddenly realised my reason for too much understeer.. my gears were too long  ::) dufus  :wetfish: After that I finally broke into the 44's ..eureka  ;D

Got a good race start (despite realising I hadn't practised one!) and had fun duking with sutol and simon for first 15 mins but at Surtees I didn't slot the gear in properly and stupidly then slammed it into 2nd...instant spin and lost 7 seconds and a place to matteo  :'(
Thought that was race destroyed but picked my pace up if anything, and tried braking earlier in a few corners to improve my laptimes. After a great multi lap fight I got past Matteo after a couple of place swaps. Good fun.
Then a wayward Frex and Sutol rejoined from up ahead to create a 3 way fight again and after another good fight I got past both of them  too  :o
I then caught a pair of squabbling back markers and sutol mounted a late attack but I kept a defensive line for last few corners and just crossed the line ahead of him  :fencing:

Really good fun fighting hard and close with several drivers and it's tough maintaining 30mins of pure focus, but all the more rewarding  8) might have finished higher still without the mis-shift but get the feeling that may be a regular feature  :P
Promises to be a good series  :thumbup1:

Was a funny race, and I can say that I saw fairplay a lot there, start very clean and fair fights
I did a great fight against Maikel; I was all time much more slow, but he was a bit unlucky and I catch a good 5th for me.
Thanks to all players, hope to cya you all at the next round!

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Fun race, just love driving this car. But yeah, all that talk about H-shifters and sure enough I have a couple of mis-shifts that cost me places..!

Good start, and got away initially to build up a gap. Ran fairly alone in P7 for much of the race until I screwed up the downshift into Surtees and spun. Simon and ChrisT went by (sorry Simon for not seeing you as I tried to get going again), and MJ almost too. Some good laps fighting with MJ until I missed a gear coming out of the last corner which allowed him to come past as well. Thrilling stuff, and looking forward to the next races.

Congrats podium.

There's your problem then,  it should be level with your wheel and on the right in these  :P
(exactly my GPL setup, except the BRM's where it's on the left)


@Dave. AC seems to simulate older manual transmissions,  if you're damaging the gears then change slower. And always fully use the clutch. It takes a little while to get used to but really are to the immersion when you have to concentrate on not not rushing shifts.

These cars are really good fun to haul around the track. Even if you find yourself in no mans land, it is still very enjoyable. Strangely i could not match my practice pace and due to a not so great start found myself falling back a bit. However with so many good race drivers around it felt great racing everybody.
In the final laps Bob re-caught me and after some laps i got it too sideways out of Druids and he slipped by. I reckoned all i could do was to follow him home, but he out-braked himself into Clearways and scared me enough to run wide also. It looked like an action packed race. Looking forward to the next outing.

Missed a gear in the final couple of laps and ended up in the gravel, 2 lapped cars got by and Mark >:( Got past the 2 back markers but Mark defended well and he crossed the line around 0.1s in front.

Quite enjoyed that one  ;D These cars are not an easy drive, but are very rewarding when it goes well....
Had some great laps dicing with Larry, I fell off, then he fell off, repeat repeat, I was a bit faster so could catch
eventually, but near the end we were side by side somewhere, and I kept right to give room, kept looking
left, but lost sight of Larry? did you go off? did you disco? I felt no contact anywhere.

I was barely able to control the car during the race, despite this fact I had some good duel with Bob and Mark. The rest of the race was pretty an attempt to keep my car on the grey stuff.

I guessed that my setup was completely wrong so I switched again to defalut before the start, but it didn't help to improve my practice best lap during the race. My pace on this car was horrible and by half race I started to turn on 1.47 laptimes.

I will try to race the next one and I hope to be more consistent.
Never happened to me to be five seconds off pace by the fastest chaps (I know... there's always a first time :)), and I found that situation at least a bit frustrating to be honest. :-[

Sadness :'(

I learned during lap 1, not to trust Helicorsa in these cars. When somebody is right behind you, it shows you somebody is alongside by colouring yellow. First time that happened was in Druids, where it showed Chris on my left and as we went past the apex, all of a sudden it showed right. Thought to myself, how on earth did he switch back so quickly.

Then same at Stirlings bend, but this time I thought Maikel got a run on me on the left with Chris on the right. So I stayed in the middle which was a line I never took there, so immediatly messed up and lost 2 places  :P.

Was able to get the place from Maikel back the next lap, but the gap to Chris was around 2-3 seconds and in order to try and close that, I'd have to drive over the limit, so I focussed on 2nd place. Halfway through the race though, Chris spun and all of a sudden I was leading. Kept an eye on the gap behind and calculated roughly what I can lose every lap in order to stay ahead as it's so easy to lose the car when you push.

The guys behind me were battling which caused them time, which gave me the option to drive around with a safe margin to spinning  :P.

Here's what I mean with Helicorsa playing tricks on me:

(https://s1.postimg.org/4rhdxeafgv/left2.jpg)    (https://s1.postimg.org/42o4ddw48v/right2.png)

It was nice seeing some names that I haven't raced against in a while. Also, I enjoyed dicing with Dave Curtis at the start. I was watching ahead for a T1 crash, but everyone left room for one another. Congrats to Jeffrey on the win.

My race pace was slow and steady. I was only able to gain on the car ahead when they made a mistake. I caught up to the 16th place car as the lead lap cars were weaving their way past. I know that there was a couple of times that I had to slow down more than normal, and the drivers around me did a good job avoiding my mistake. The battle for 16th place was decided in the last turn on the last lap. I took the inside line, but unfortunately I could not keep to the inside. I slid into the outside lane :o. I might have unintentionally blocked Larry. If he had a better exit out of the last turn on the last lap, he would have taken the position back on run to the finish line. Good race everyone.  

I will hopefully get up to speed with stracker, and other apps (Does anyone use "real time" AC app for the race). Also, I hope to learn how to choose the correct skin before the next race. Thanks, Walter

You need to pick a skin at anytime and let me know which one you want. I then put that skin in the entry list, which is why I needed your steam GUID (Check your PM's ;) ).

Then you'll get that skin everytime and you don't need to pick anything anymore :).

These little cars will prove an excellent series, apart from a couple of spins and the car looking like an exocet missile the last two laps, trailing a plume of smoke and finally blowing to bits on the very last corner meaning a dnf. Will lower the power for next race. All the same very entertaining.

I'm actually amazed about all the enthousiatic comments. I was hoping for it, but didn't expect it across most of the grid  :o

For all pre-race days, i realized that Lotus 25 is very sensitive to setup, and a just change can make the car much faster. My friend Thomas helped me a lot in this. We managed to make a good setup that gave me a good lap-time. At the same time, i saw that we were at least 5 pilots very close in lap-times.
Considering the type of track it was predictable the formation of "trains", where the stress/pressure factor would be decisive.
During qualifying with surprise i checked that many pilots have had a further improvement in lap-times. I qualificated 4th.
I start well, but i'm passed on 2nd corner, so i'm fifth. I'm in a good position, as the last of train and then with less pressure. Meanwhile the laps go by and i realize that 30 minutes is not that much, the risk of not being able to do anything to reassemble. The pilots ahead of me, however, worn by a terrible pressure or trying to pushing over the limit, they start to make mistakes. I'm 3rd now, 1 second behind Felix. But i see that CrisR is catching up like a fury, and he passes me in the last lap. But he makes another mistake; i'm thinking about the podium, just when the penultimate curve Felix spun, and here's the second place.

My was a "waiting-race", never pushing too much.
Next stop, Salzburg, where i have never race, but it seems more suitable to my style. This time i will run with the knife between teeth!  8)

I read some posts about H-shift or paddles. All life H-shift and three pedals, all manual!

Thanks for the fantastic championship you organized.

Only in a game like Assetto Corsa setup can make a difference of about 3-4 seconds per lap with some setup changes on a track with 8 corners.
Default setup in this game are complete RUBBISH, and I would like to have a word on this with some old italian friend who worked for Kunos at AC physics about this... They're jerking us around.  ;D
I just know one thing. Until my setups were made by Gavino, I managed to be closer to the fastest chaps every race. By the time he could no longer race (unfortunately) I started to drop down some places, both here and at Core.

Then, all of a sudden, 4 seconds...
After I noticed a thing like this I'm quite tempted to stop playing AC to be honest. Setup is a part of the game, but 3,4 or 5 seconds of difference between a good or bad setup are really too much. That quite means that setup is more decisive than the driver.

Only in this fairy tale game.

The main thing on Lotus 25, if i understand well, is the tyres pressure: the default is total wrong! On other cars there are no such gross errors.
However, you are right, AC default setups are really bad and we don't understand why they are do these so badly. I talked to a couple of AC developers, they said that the default setups are made to be accessible to everyone and every track. For me, setups are just wrong, instead.
In any case, between a shitty setup and a good one, on average almost all cars, there is a gap of 1-2 seconds. Lotus 25 is really a special case.

Have you tried the setup I put on stracker? Not saying it's good, but it's the one I used  and it's somewhat capable of competitive laps.

AC's setup work has always been quite dodgy, with things like maximum camber not really beind a problem and other tyre calculations not being properly done.

Are you sure it's not something with your wheel or pedals?


Yeah, the default pressures are around 7-8 PSI too low, that's 25% off  :-X.


Kunos just sounds lazy to me, or they also have no clue about setups  :P

Thanks guys. You have made my day. I was only in search of some cherish and understanding  ;D ;D

Well.. armed with this new knowledge, I put the pressures up to 37psi, and within 6 laps was doing 46.1
whereas before I was mostly doing low 49/high 48...  :o

The car doesn't wander around so much, and is now less masochism to drive
Did not know how to get at Jeffrey's setup. had I know i would have been much more competitive  ::)


 

Matt, you need stracker installed. When you double click on the header of the driver table once you hit go from the pits (don't have to move) then you will see another screen pop up with setups, hit 'get' and it will download whoever setup is loaded up. You then need to flick between tracks just to see it in your setup 'I/o', load it and voila  :)

Not sure why Matteo thinks it so wrong for a bad setup to be worth 4 seconds  ??? I would have thought that accurate for a good or bad setup. What's more annoying is kunos waste our time with such bad default setups  ::)