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Title: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Jeffrey on October 09, 2017, 01:49:05 PM +0100
Password: see above (#post_event_password) (released 24hrs before the race)

Round 2 - Salzburgring IMPORTANT Chicane cutting rules explained in this post (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=14581.msg266491#msg266491)

(https://s1.postimg.org/85bndoo4hb/Screenshot_ks_lotus_25_salzburgring_29-9-117-9-49-10.jpg)

October 25th - Password entry (on day of race)

Practise: 19:30 (45 mins)
Qual: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30   30 minutes

Cars allowed:
Lotus 25

SKINPACK (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=14558.msg265319#msg265319). Top of driver's list on the opening post.

Track:  Salzburgring (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/salzburgring.2798/)
Trackpack (https://www.dropbox.com/s/w9rel0xaapzeowf/Trackpack%20Lotus%2025.rar?dl=0)


Live Timing: stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat (http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Weather: Clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: Not required

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=100
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=0
SESSION_TRANSFER=N/a

Damage: 70%

Password: see above (#post_event_password)

PLP App - Not used in this series. Cutting will be monitored on replay and penalties issued for excessive cutting.

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0)
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page

(http://motorradonline.de/media/mrd-12673/712/salzburg000jpg.jpg)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Simon Gymer on October 19, 2017, 01:44:54 PM +0100
I can't make this one as I'm away so please take me off the list for the next race if you can. I'll be back for the round after, on 1st Nov.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Jeffrey on October 19, 2017, 02:47:51 PM +0100
I can't make this one as I'm away so please take me off the list for the next race if you can. I'll be back for the round after, on 1st Nov.

I also have to miss this one :(. That's 3 of us now, you, me and Maikel.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Mark J on October 19, 2017, 04:06:46 PM +0100
I'm only 50-50 (wedding anniversary!  :o ) depends how brave I feel  ;D


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: picnic on October 19, 2017, 04:41:22 PM +0100
I can see myself getting a top 10 finish at this rate  :laugh:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: phspok on October 19, 2017, 05:17:54 PM +0100
I will miss the next two events as I will be traveling for work. Then back for one, then miss another two  :(


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Jeffrey on October 19, 2017, 05:35:19 PM +0100
I can see myself getting a top 10 finish at this rate  :laugh:

You still need to do 75% of race distance ;)

I will miss the next two events as I will be traveling for work. Then back for one, then miss another two  :(


Next 2 after this, or Salzburgring and next one? Please let me know in each thread, that way I can see more clearly and I can remove you from the list for the set race and put you back when you can make it.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Manteos on October 20, 2017, 02:18:06 PM +0100
I would like to know why this car hates me. Yesterday I even managed to replace my old H shifter with another functioning from my friend.

Do You really want to know which is the difference between paddles and H shifter chaps?  ::)

I'll leave it to your imagination ;)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: picnic on October 20, 2017, 03:42:37 PM +0100
I can see myself getting a top 10 finish at this rate  :laugh:

You still need to do 75% of race distance ;)
I thought it was 50%, anyway I did that easily this week :P


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: phspok on October 20, 2017, 04:09:39 PM +0100
I am away for the next two events


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Manteos on October 21, 2017, 12:51:26 AM +0100
Finally, the enlightenment.

Thanks for the tip about the tyre pressure chaps.
I stiffened sensibly the rear anti roll bar and springs, and softened a bit front springs and anti-roll bar. Tweaked the differential power to 80%, coast at 50, and preload at 30. Modified the delta between the ride heights with an higher rear to have less understeer when turning in and at mid corner. Increase the negative camber seemed to be helpful aswell.

A special thanks goes to Kunos' default setup, really 'helpful'  ::)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: PorcoRosso86 on October 21, 2017, 01:42:06 PM +0100
Me and my friends noticed that the first chicane could be cut easily, especially the second curb that can literally jumped without any penalities. That could give many pilots advantages, because with a springs soft, the chicane could be +10Km/h faster


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Fabri Fibra on October 21, 2017, 01:46:28 PM +0100
The track is really beautiful and exciting, i really like it; but we have a problem:
the chicane.

Trying a little yesterday, me and Thomas, we realized that we lost more than half second in t1, and instead we were fast enough in t2 and t3.
We studied telemetry, along with PorcoRosso. We noticed that to do the t1 fast we had to make the chicane to 100 km/h (instead of our 80). You have to cut it completly.

PorcoRosso tried to make a nice cut, and here's the best time! :-)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: ChrisR on October 21, 2017, 02:18:47 PM +0100
Yes, i tried it out very quickly and found that its easily cut with no oenalties..

We can monitor that chicane on the replay, anyone who has wheels going through the barrels  can get +1 second added on each time they cut (could be a pita to monitor and keep track off)

Alternatively we just alter the track. Croft is very good now feels3's version has been released.. but im unsure of the car count.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Jeffrey on October 21, 2017, 02:24:21 PM +0100
Me and my friends noticed that the first chicane could be cut easily, especially the second curb that can literally jumped without any penalities. That could give many pilots advantages, because with a springs soft, the chicane could be +10Km/h faster

I can't make it this race, so I'll study the replay afterwards.

I trust nobody will try and take advantage of it, but if they do, note that the official penalties are as following:

Repeated Railriding or Corner Cutting

Penalty to be adjusted according to the following guidelines. Specific occurrences may be disregarded if there are mitigating circumstances.

Blatant and deliberate   Exclusion with penalty
Repeated but accidental   30 seconds with warning
Occaisional (3 or more) but accidental   10 seconds with caution
Rare (less than 3) and accidental   caution



Which is why I really ask somebody to provde me with a replay afterwards.

I will specify with screenshots later tonight what will be considered cutting.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: PorcoRosso86 on October 21, 2017, 03:21:57 PM +0100
I do a little video with some different cuts, all these without penalties.
I think that only the first (without cuts) could be right

https://youtu.be/ExiiWBRWzDM (https://youtu.be/ExiiWBRWzDM)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Jeffrey on October 21, 2017, 05:43:29 PM +0100
IMPORTANT

To clarify what is allowed in the first chicane. You can use all the road up untill the tyres. Hitting the tyre barrier near the apex is considered a cut, even by an inch. Now please enjoy my paint skills  ;D:

(https://s1.postimg.org/86lxoyc7kf/T1_V.jpg) (https://s1.postimg.org/9anx6c94of/T1_X.jpg)

(https://s1.postimg.org/9laqzhrcun/T2_V.jpg)  (https://s1.postimg.org/68s154dktb/T2_X.jpg)

The video from PorcoRosso86 also shows what is allowed and what is not:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExiiWBRWzDM&feature=youtu.be


We need Enna Pergusa's tyre barriers  >:D


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Jeffrey on October 21, 2017, 05:45:45 PM +0100
I do a little video with some different cuts, all these without penalties.
I think that only the first (without cuts) could be right

https://youtu.be/ExiiWBRWzDM (https://youtu.be/ExiiWBRWzDM)

You are correct and I've added your video to the post above. Thanks :).


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Bob on October 21, 2017, 05:51:59 PM +0100
Just ask all to be honest and not cut the chicane, last time I drove this track in P&G the barrels and tyres were solid, a wipe out if you hit them.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Fabri Fibra on October 21, 2017, 05:55:26 PM +0100
Just an idea...
If we try put the "limit on tyres out" on 1, does it work?



Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: PorcoRosso86 on October 21, 2017, 06:01:43 PM +0100
IMPORTANT

To clarify what is allowed in the first chicane. You can use all the road up untill the tyres. Hitting the tyre barrier near the apex is considered a cut, even by an inch. Now please enjoy my paint skills  ;D:


We need Enna Pergusa's tyre barriers  >:D

Thanks a lot for the clarification, Jeffrey! S!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Jeffrey on October 21, 2017, 06:09:15 PM +0100
Just ask all to be honest and not cut the chicane, last time I drove this track in P&G the barrels and tyres were solid, a wipe out if you hit them.

I don't really expect a lot of problems with the cutting, but it's better to have it specified beforehand and not have it open to discussion afterwards.

Just an idea...
If we try put the "limit on tyres out" on 1, does it work?

I don't know how well AC handles it then. I'd rather leave it as it is, as that gives people the opportunity to back off when they cut and not get a drive through forced. If you accidentilly cut, just make sure you don't gain by it. If I get a replay, I'll be watching  :detective:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Felix Simoes on October 21, 2017, 06:31:00 PM +0100
And what happens if the cut is during your fastest qualify time. How will that be treated?

Just asking...  ::)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Jeffrey on October 21, 2017, 06:37:36 PM +0100
And what happens if the cut is during your fastest qualify time. How will that be treated?

Just asking...  ::)

Hmm, good one. Maybe qually ban for the next race?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Felix Simoes on October 21, 2017, 06:50:18 PM +0100
And what happens if the cut is during your fastest qualify time. How will that be treated?

Just asking...  ::)

Hmm, good one. Maybe qually ban for the next race?

 :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Mark J on October 21, 2017, 07:22:22 PM +0100
Ha just proves how different the mind set is of you aliens to us mortals. I just spent an hour online and didn't once attempt to cut that inside corner  :angel: I actually assumed it would result in a smashed car hitting the tyre stack so from first lap I kept avoiding it, whereas you guys exploited it for a faster laptime!  :hammer: ;D

Glad it's been reported and dealt with before the event  :) good work gents

This track turned out trickier than I expected. That first chicane is a bugger braking from top speed and downshifting (especially for us manual shift guys  ;) ) should make for a good race again though.

So all you guys on 1:33 cut the chicane ? Makes me fastest legit racer  ;D


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Felix Simoes on October 21, 2017, 07:33:07 PM +0100
...
So all you guys on 1:33 cut the chicane ? Makes me fastest legit racer  ;D

Here's a 1:33.5 without cutting the chicane :P
https://youtu.be/4wGHADUmKdY (https://youtu.be/4wGHADUmKdY)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Fabri Fibra on October 21, 2017, 07:43:53 PM +0100
Just check times on T1 (and relative speed on chicane), 36,7-36,6 is maybe a good correct T1. I'm doing 1.33.4 with a correct chicane.

Nevertheless i think this chicane will be a serious problem.

Maybe you can put solid tires?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: PorcoRosso86 on October 21, 2017, 07:49:34 PM +0100
...
So all you guys on 1:33 cut the chicane ? Makes me fastest legit racer  ;D

Here's a 1:33.5 without cutting the chicane :P
https://youtu.be/4wGHADUmKdY (https://youtu.be/4wGHADUmKdY)

Excellent lap, dude, you catching a new subscriber :)
I saw that your best is 1.33.3 with the cut chicane (please correct me, but I saw that your max speed on chicane was exactly the mine when I cutted) So we can say that the advantages is around 0.3, 0.5 seconds?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Felix Simoes on October 21, 2017, 08:30:00 PM +0100
...
So all you guys on 1:33 cut the chicane ? Makes me fastest legit racer  ;D

Here's a 1:33.5 without cutting the chicane :P
https://youtu.be/4wGHADUmKdY (https://youtu.be/4wGHADUmKdY)

Excellent lap, dude, you catching a new subscriber :)
I saw that your best is 1.33.3 with the cut chicane (please correct me, but I saw that your max speed on chicane was exactly the mine when I cutted) So we can say that the advantages is around 0.3, 0.5 seconds?

Yes, I think that by cutting the chicane you can be around 0.3 faster


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Jeffrey on October 21, 2017, 09:15:10 PM +0100
Maybe you can put solid tires?

Don't know how that is done, problem with that tho, when you are battling there is no escaping anymore. I fear with solid tyre barriers, we will not get many finishers  ;D.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Fabri Fibra on October 22, 2017, 02:24:55 AM +0100
Like the chicane at Goodwood, this is definitely very '60s. 8)

Jokes aside, putting solid tires, if one should make a mistake, he doesn't to hit against them is enough to avoid them going into the sand (and then returning to the track) losing the right time.
The chance to hit the solid tires is only (except for unlucky cases) if the pilot tries to cut the chicane in "smart manner". With the risk to hit a solid thing, pilots 'll go in the chicane at the correct speed.

Honestly i feel more uncomfortable in having to calculate how much i can cut into chicane, than have two big and good obstacles that delimit it.
Probably i'll be the only one to think so ...


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: ChrisR on October 22, 2017, 11:28:42 AM +0100
https://www.facebook.com/chris.redman.9/videos/10155773115632731/


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Jeffrey on October 22, 2017, 01:10:46 PM +0100
Jokes aside, putting solid tires, if one should make a mistake, he doesn't to hit against them is enough to avoid them going into the sand (and then returning to the track) losing the right time.
The chance to hit the solid tires is only (except for unlucky cases) if the pilot tries to cut the chicane in "smart manner". With the risk to hit a solid thing, pilots 'll go in the chicane at the correct speed.

If I want a more strict anti cutting method, I'd rather go back to PLP as that gives some margin for error. These cars are very hard to drive accurate every lap and getting a bit more sideways is easy to achieve and hitting solid tyres is race over. And when you are leading a pack, it's just carnage.

Honestly i feel more uncomfortable in having to calculate how much i can cut into chicane, than have two big and good obstacles that delimit it.
Probably i'll be the only one to think so ...

Just treat the tyres as solid, then you don't need to calculate ;). I trust the group of drivers here not to abuse the lack of anti cutting methods. It has worked for the last few series, so I hope it stays all fair. Because we had this discussion well in advance, everybody should be aware of what is allowed and not and what the consequences will be.

Accidental cutting is fine, just make sure you never gain anything by it.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: ChrisR on October 22, 2017, 02:23:39 PM +0100
I can quite easily use the dev apps to move the camera around and i can make a tally chart for everyone who cut that first chicane (based on Jefferys post) each lap..



Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: FullMetalGasket on October 22, 2017, 02:35:31 PM +0100
How tricky are these apps to use in order to make new camera sets Chris?
There are a bunch of tracks I'd love to make better cams for..


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Jeffrey on October 22, 2017, 02:52:45 PM +0100
I can quite easily use the dev apps to move the camera around and i can make a tally chart for everyone who cut that first chicane (based on Jefferys post) each lap..



That would help. I also have dev apps enabled, so I'll need to look into that to have a fixed camera.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: ChrisR on October 22, 2017, 06:35:06 PM +0100
Press F7 and then you can pan the camera around with your mouse, arrow keys to move it, you have totally free reign over where you put it.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: ChrisR on October 23, 2017, 10:18:24 AM +0100
How tricky are these apps to use in order to make new camera sets Chris?
There are a bunch of tracks I'd love to make better cams for..

I dont know how to make cameras etc. Thats a little bit out of my league i think.

The F7 camera, which you can only enable through dev apps is just a free roam camera but it does make it much easier to check stuff like the forst chicane here.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Jeffrey on October 23, 2017, 11:14:29 AM +0100
I dont know how to make cameras etc. Thats a little bit out of my league i think.

The F7 camera, which you can only enable through dev apps is just a free roam camera but it does make it much easier to check stuff like the forst chicane here.

Thanks, so it's basically like the photo mode :).


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: ChrisR on October 23, 2017, 11:35:09 AM +0100
I guess, i dont use photomode lol, only F7.

Shift + arrow keys is slow
Ctrl + arrow keys is super fast.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on October 23, 2017, 02:51:02 PM +0100
Corner cutting seems to be a rather hot topic these days. Max Verstappen won't stand a chance if he would be racing sim cars here at srouk!.. ;D :P ::)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Jeffrey on October 23, 2017, 03:05:30 PM +0100
Corner cutting seems to be a rather hot topic these days. Max Verstappen won't stand a chance if he would be racing sim cars here at srouk!.. ;D :P ::)

I'm not Garry Connoly,  so I'm not a biased  :dots: when it comes to moderating :p

And there are no Ferraris on the grid that needs FIA 's help ;D


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Manteos on October 23, 2017, 05:57:21 PM +0100
Corner cutting seems to be a rather hot topic these days. Max Verstappen won't stand a chance if he would be racing sim cars here at srouk!.. ;D :P ::)

I'm not Garry Connoly,  so I'm not a biased  :dots: when it comes to moderating :p

And there are no Ferraris on the grid that needs FIA 's help ;D

The penalty inflicted to Max is correct. The trouble is when during two days of practice, nobody said nothing about what is considered cut on Austin track, with cars going everywhere exceding track limits. F1 is becoming a farce.
I could say the same about the FIA rule that limited the oil use, but not for the thermal engines omologated before Monza's race. Ferrari could have reacted before, like Mercedes, but changing a rule like this during a championship is simply not serious. The championship is changed by that race.

However, I can say that after the overtake suffered by Kimi at the last lap, if I was the Team manager, I would have sacked him on the spot, regardless the penalty inflicted to Max.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: dave curtis on October 23, 2017, 06:14:49 PM +0100
Max Verstappen won't stand a chance if he would be racing sim cars here at srouk!.. ;D :P ::)

I guess he needs to install the appropriate app?  :)


The penalty inflicted to Max is correct. The trouble is when during two days of practice, nobody said nothing about what is considered cut on Austin track, with cars going everywhere exceding track limits. F1 is becoming a farce.

Maybe they need the server-side app installed? :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on October 24, 2017, 08:24:55 AM +0100
What an amazing pace you guys are running. I changed about every setting yesterday evening, but I'm still not able to get below the 1.35,5s mark. Looks like i am gonna be on my own for most of the race.

I do like the track with these cars. Feels like a non-Tilke product. Very refreshing.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: ChrisR on October 24, 2017, 11:48:37 AM +0100
Try watching the videos felix and myself posted, it may help you spot something your doing, or not doing. :)

The biggest help to decent laptimes in this car is finesse.. be smooth and allow the car to slide around. When you brake for a corner if your not applying a little opposite lock then your braking too early.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Jeffrey on October 24, 2017, 12:46:48 PM +0100
Try watching the videos felix and myself posted, it may help you spot something your doing, or not doing. :)

Your Facebook video isn't working for me.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on October 24, 2017, 01:05:46 PM +0100
Try watching the videos felix and myself posted, it may help you spot something your doing, or not doing. :)

The biggest help to decent laptimes in this car is finesse.. be smooth and allow the car to slide around. When you brake for a corner if your not applying a little opposite lock then your braking too early.

Thanks for the tip. Will do so.
And if you see me going hard left at the first corner at the start, i am applying opposite lock.  :P


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Manteos on October 24, 2017, 01:39:29 PM +0100
Sorry chaps but I won't be able to race tomorrow. Another friend's birthday dinner that I forgot. Hope to see you for the next:)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Jeffrey on October 24, 2017, 02:27:53 PM +0100
Sorry chaps but I won't be able to race tomorrow. Another friend's birthday dinner that I forgot. Hope to see you for the next:)

At this rate, everybody will get on the podium  :P


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: ChrisR on October 24, 2017, 03:34:25 PM +0100
Try watching the videos felix and myself posted, it may help you spot something your doing, or not doing. :)

Your Facebook video isn't working for me.

Try now.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Bob on October 24, 2017, 06:27:34 PM +0100


At this rate, everybody will get on the podium :clap: Chance would be a fine thing, did I just see a pig fly by. :yes: :yes:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Fabri Fibra on October 24, 2017, 07:01:06 PM +0100
Stefan aka Postal, try use 37-39 psi of tires-pressure.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on October 24, 2017, 08:52:29 PM +0100
 :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Mark J on October 24, 2017, 10:36:08 PM +0100
Looking at stracker this series generates more practise laps in one round than the whole Glickenhaus series  :o

I've sneaked into the 34's but as usual can't see where I can make up the extra 2 secs you quick guys are doing  :'(


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: goldtop on October 25, 2017, 05:46:11 PM +0100
High 37s with race fuel here. Admittedly only had half a dozen laps so far but if I'm that far behind MJ I must be doing something wrong  ;)  :angel:

I probably won't race this series as I'm likely to miss more through work than I can make. Have fun  :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: picnic on October 25, 2017, 09:08:15 PM +0100
Damn these 3rd party tracks, spun in to the pit entrance and disappeared through a hole in the scenery. Then of course the stupid game won't let you quit to the pits as the car isn't, and can never be, stopped.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: PorcoRosso86 on October 25, 2017, 09:16:45 PM +0100
Congrats all, funny race guys, compliments to ChrisR, impressive race pace, 30 minutes of qualify times!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Mark J on October 25, 2017, 10:28:00 PM +0100
Great race again, really enjoyed it.   8)

Quallied 5th behind the 4 aliens  ::) :)

Got a decent start but Frex got a better run down to the chicane. From then on until 2 laps from the end I was stuck to his gearbox, trying to get past but he drove a good clean race and defended well. Fabri joined the fun for a while after a spin ahead but he soon got back past both of us.
Then with just two laps left and me piling the pressure on as much as I dared, Frex ran wide at the tightening apex right, just before the final chicane and I was finally through for a well earned 5th place.  :fencing: great fun!
Love the close racing and controllable sliding with these cars  8)
Shame the grid was a lot smaller this week but guess it's half term holidays  :-\ shame I'll miss next week  :'(


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: ChrisR on October 25, 2017, 11:19:05 PM +0100
Lonely race for me.. so i just kept my head down and tried to be consistant.

Zandvoort is my achilles heel so im going to have to practise.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: frex on October 26, 2017, 09:38:59 AM +0100
Super race with MJ, lasted almost the entire distance. He was getting closer and closer towards the end, although it looked like I might hang on to the place, but then ran wide just before the last chicane and he was through. Bit annoyed with myself for not at least making him work for a pass, but to be fair it was well deserved as he was quicker throughout. Thoroughly enjoyed it though!

I'm only 50-50 (wedding anniversary!  :o ) depends how brave I feel  ;D

I guess you were feeling brave! Hope Mrs Jonzo understands..  ;D

Congrats podium.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Mark J on October 26, 2017, 11:48:12 AM +0100
Hehe yeah she was very understanding  ;D sure I will get payback at some point, you know how they like to keep a record of these things  :D

'Bit annoyed you didn't make me work for it' ...ha are you kidding ?! It took 30 minutes of concentration to stay that close and try and find ways past you  :sweatdrop:
My gearing was a tad longer than you so I was always getting a head of steam down the back straight but you made sure your car was sufficiently wide enough to not let me past  ;D was also hard not to stuff you up the gearbox in the two chicanes  :D
Some tyre rubbing was as intimate as it got  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Fabri Fibra on October 26, 2017, 02:36:30 PM +0100
Great Chris, absolutely perfect race, Jim Clark style. Total dominion!

I had serious difficulties on this track, especially yesterday. Perfect bad day. I tried to drive a bit the real car before race, and i was slow also with her.  >:(
A bad day, with also a nice 360 degrees. I had some fun with Mark J and Frex, then i managed to pass them, back to my fourth position.

Ultimately, few aggressiveness, poor concentration, no speed. Difficult to do worse.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Jeffrey on October 26, 2017, 03:12:36 PM +0100
Why doesn't Thomas race here? He's been doing more race distances in practice :P


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Fabri Fibra on October 26, 2017, 10:18:36 PM +0100
He has trouble staying more than 15-20 min consecutive because of the VR, it creates too much heat in the face.
For me the 30 minute race is too short, but i haven't the VR.

Thomas is really strong, also very constant. The fact that he does not race is a real loss for virtual motorsport. :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: Jeffrey on October 27, 2017, 01:28:44 PM +0100
I've reviewed the chicane and first lap. Results are underneath the results table. If you disagree, feel free to PM me and it will be discussed with other moderators :).


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Salzburgring - Oct 25
Post by: PorcoRosso86 on October 27, 2017, 05:02:17 PM +0100
Ouch, tried to find the limit, never saw that I was over this limit :) My fault