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Title: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: Jeffrey on October 09, 2017, 01:56:48 PM +0100
Password: see above (#post_event_password) (released 24hrs before the race)

Round 4 - Donnington Park 1938

(https://s1.postimg.org/5pg7ox88db/Screenshot_ks_lotus_25_donington1938_29-9-117-10-0-18.jpg)

November 8th - Password entry (on day of race)

Practise: 19:30 (45 mins)
Qual: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30   30 minutes

Cars allowed:
Lotus 25

SKINPACK (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=14558.msg265319#msg265319). Top of driver's list on the opening post.

Track:  Donnington Park 1938 (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/donington-park-grand-prix-circuit-1938.17313/)
Trackpack (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=14558.0) Opening post


Live Timing: stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat (http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Weather: Clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: Not required

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=100
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=0
SESSION_TRANSFER=N/a

Damage: 70%

Password: see above (#post_event_password)

PLP App - Not used in this series. Cutting will be monitored on replay and penalties issued for excessive cutting.

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0)
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page

(https://msmproduction.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/circuits/versions/Donington%20Park%20294.svg)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: Jeffrey on October 26, 2017, 08:53:44 AM +0100
There has been an update for this track:

Hey Everyone, this is just a quick small fix as i noticed the groove was not working, apologies if this is not important, please skip this download. more updates to come soon

I'll wait with updating the trackpack till this event is next.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: picnic on November 02, 2017, 08:20:04 AM +0000
Is this update available yet? Need to get the server sorted.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: Jeffrey on November 02, 2017, 08:27:04 AM +0000
Is this update available yet? Need to get the server sorted.

Trackpack is updated,  but the track download link is always available :p.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: Mark J on November 02, 2017, 09:31:51 AM +0000
I'm back from my Nordic adventures  :) looking forward to this round, love that pic, do we get to race through a castle gate?  :o


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: Jeffrey on November 02, 2017, 09:40:15 AM +0000
I'm back from my Nordic adventures  :) looking forward to this round, love that pic, do we get to race through a castle gate?  :o

It looks more like a bridge or aquaduct. There are other narrow passes tho ;D


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: Fred Joseph on November 02, 2017, 09:47:23 AM +0000
Hello guys !

Long time no see  :D

ChrisR put me in your direction..  I might join you guys for next race if all goes ok with my timetable !  :angel:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: Jeffrey on November 02, 2017, 01:38:50 PM +0000
Hello guys !

Long time no see  :D

ChrisR put me in your direction..  I might join you guys for next race if all goes ok with my timetable !  :angel:

Welcome back  :).

Let me know if you can make it and please send me your steam GUID then and optionally a skin of choice.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: Fred Joseph on November 02, 2017, 01:47:52 PM +0000
Hello Jeffrey,

Here's my ID  : 76561197971028428  (Steam Name is Rust Cohle)

89% sure I can make it. I'll fire up the game later and let you know about the skin.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: Jeffrey on November 02, 2017, 01:59:35 PM +0000
Hello Jeffrey,

Here's my ID  : 76561197971028428  (Steam Name is Rust Cohle)

89% sure I can make it. I'll fire up the game later and let you know about the skin.

Thanks, I'll add you to the list :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: Sutol on November 02, 2017, 05:52:20 PM +0000
Ha ha this track is insane but it could do with a resurfacing. I've had to turn FFB right down as my rig was shaking the house so much especially the section down to the hairpin. This is going to be very interesting.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: Fred Joseph on November 02, 2017, 07:49:24 PM +0000
So much fun this track !!  and yeah, I just woke my little baby just by the sound of the FFB  :angel: :angel: :angel: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: Jeffrey on November 02, 2017, 07:58:53 PM +0000
It's bumpy indeed  ;D


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: Fabri Fibra on November 02, 2017, 08:24:48 PM +0000
Insane track!
I really hope don't destroy my steering (G27) with these tests and race.
Many vibrations and deafening noises. I tried to lower the ffb to 75%, effects to 0. Result is to have a lightweight steering wheel like be in a Fiat Panda, but always feel a lot of mess (huge "bordell"), especially before the hairpin.
Hopefully that will not break anything ... :angel:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: Mark J on November 02, 2017, 10:16:58 PM +0000
Ha this track is pretty cool. The first two sectors feel more like a rally special Tarmac stage  ;D

Such a shame all these old circuits lost so much of their character over time, you are lucky if you spot a tree at a circuit nowadays.

My poor mechanics had to replace quite a few front wishbones and nose cones  :-[

No problem with Ffb for me, are you guys using the ffbclip app? Well worth having.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: PorcoRosso86 on November 02, 2017, 10:48:55 PM +0000
I like the track. Yep, maybe is a bit bumpy, need to decrease ffb, but I haven't problems here.
Really hard, especially the first sector, need to drive very well, every corners at the limit of your capabilities, at least is really dangerous
Fortunately we are in a simulation  :angel:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: ChrisR on November 05, 2017, 03:24:25 PM +0000
crap quality but may help some.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAq0noCwHtM&feature=youtu.be


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: phspok on November 05, 2017, 04:58:38 PM +0000
Thanks Chris.

There is a chance I might make this one, please could you include me in the list?

Ta


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: Mark J on November 05, 2017, 05:09:55 PM +0000
Nice lap Chris, cheers. Anyone found certain setup tweaks that really help here? I tried a range of softer springs or Arb settings to suit the bumpy surface but they all made the car slower over a lap or wash out in understeer so I'm sticking with my Brands setup.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: ChrisR on November 05, 2017, 05:18:19 PM +0000
just in case its not seen, i have uploaded my skin into the championship thread. :D


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: Maikel K. on November 07, 2017, 11:56:12 AM +0000
Fun track, though I'm guessing for the race I'm about to get a free spinning class  ;D

Poor wheel doesn't like the long bumpy straight aswell 8)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: Mark J on November 07, 2017, 09:51:26 PM +0000
Not had any chance for some proper practise for a few days  :'( shocked to see I'm now 5 secs off the pole pace now  :o :( worst for a long time.

On a positive note, this car looks blinking good in PC2, especially with VR  :o
https://youtu.be/5vpFBJ8eNJA (https://youtu.be/5vpFBJ8eNJA)
 8)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: ChrisR on November 07, 2017, 09:55:55 PM +0000
thats a L49 mark. :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: Fabri Fibra on November 07, 2017, 10:54:48 PM +0000
I saw this video yesterday, what shit!
It is a Lotus 49, of course.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: Mark J on November 08, 2017, 02:23:25 PM +0000
Of course I knew it was a 49  :whistling: :-[

 ;D.  Damn phone surfing


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: phspok on November 08, 2017, 02:42:09 PM +0000
I am hoping to do this one, it means quite a bit of commuting  :o
If anyone nerfs me off into the scenery, or if I do it myself
I will be making little dolls and sticking pins in them,  ::)
after all the effort  :angel:  :cursing:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: frex on November 08, 2017, 02:48:14 PM +0000
Sorry, probably won't make it again - not much spare time right now. Have a good one.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 08, 2017, 05:20:03 PM +0000
Not had any chance for some proper practise for a few days  :'( shocked to see I'm now 5 secs off the pole pace now  :o :( worst for a long time.

On a positive note, this car looks blinking good in PC2, especially with VR  :o
https://youtu.be/5vpFBJ8eNJA (https://youtu.be/5vpFBJ8eNJA)
 8)

This is a great advert for VR, but can't say it sells me on PC2.
The new Spa '67 for GPL is still beautiful enough for me!

Would love to try an Oculus in AC though...


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: ChrisR on November 08, 2017, 05:21:41 PM +0000
its ace :D

You can really see those kerbs so allows you to get seriously close :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: dave curtis on November 08, 2017, 05:49:02 PM +0000
On a positive note, this car looks blinking good in PC2, especially with VR  :o
https://youtu.be/5vpFBJ8eNJA (https://youtu.be/5vpFBJ8eNJA)
 8)

This is a great advert for VR, but can't say it sells me on PC2.
The new Spa '67 for GPL is still beautiful enough for me!

Would love to try an Oculus in AC though...

Did receive an email in the last day or so from Scan advising of free PC2 with some MSI motherboards.
[although I guess the cost of the VR kit would somewhat eradicate any apparent saving!]

However, I'm happy enough with my prehistoric model which is currently not costing me any extra at all!

But yes, would be interesting to sample some VR delights.  It still looks like a big expensive gimmick;  but that footage admittedly does make the experience look most excellent [although I did not watch *all* 15 mins of it].

It looked downright frantic out there;    however - I'd have liked to have seen spins & tree-hitting. You know - things I can identify with very well...

Roll on tonight.  I will be!


Cheers,
Dave.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: Bob on November 08, 2017, 08:01:01 PM +0000
 >:( under the weather will give it miss have fun all.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: Manteos on November 08, 2017, 09:05:03 PM +0000
I apologize with Fabri or PorcoRosso, forgot which of the two I tapped. Then I decided to wait the for the other driver lifting the throttle on the exit of the corner, when usually the other guys are full gas. Nothing to say apart from sorry and that was my fault.
I guess it's better to take a break with these cars for me. They're really fun, but I don't feel in control of the situation when I have some cars near me. In this case I just opened the gas before the car in front of me and in two milliseconds I was on his back causing him a spin. Can't take the measures with these beasts... I'm only adanger on track.

See you :)



Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: Fred Joseph on November 08, 2017, 09:14:31 PM +0000
Goal before the race : stay on track.
Goal achieved : Top 10

(in front of ChrisR  :P :P :P)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: Walter Conn on November 08, 2017, 09:17:02 PM +0000
I spent all of practice making big set-up changes, but for qualifying, I decided to go back to what I had before hand. I qualified dead last, but it was with full fuel, and I was still making setup changes.  ;D

The race start felt a little crowded so I slowed down a bot just to fall in line for the first lap. I slowed down again to allow other drivers to rejoin the track. Then I had a really solid race until the last ten minutes when my game froze. I suspect that it could have been my internet. I might unplug or turn off a few devices on my network before the next race.  

Good race all,
Walter


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: Maikel K. on November 08, 2017, 09:18:48 PM +0000
Yeah, that was me Matteo  ;D

Wasn't to bothered with the spin, but then I was eager to get back so I though I'd squeeze through the castle gate/bridge thingy 2 abreast. I thought I had room enough but apparently my rear tyre hit the fence causing me to spin around again with some pretty massive damage ( after watching the replay there was still a good half a meter of space there, stupid hitbox  ::) ) I had fun moving through the pack and catching up to Mark after a while. The top 3 were to far ahead but I had a pretty good 4th place, until I lost it with the braking at the corner before the long straight ( was working on a killer of a lap  8) ) which caused me to understeer like crazy unto the little hill/mountain. Got back on track and noticed that my left front tyre was facing a 90 degree angle inward  ???  Oh well, if it were a crash in real life it would've destroyed the car aswell. Still enjoyed the track, really suits these cars very well.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 08, 2017, 10:24:40 PM +0000
I apologize with Fabri or PorcoRosso, forgot which of the two I tapped. Then I decided to wait the for the other driver lifting the throttle on the exit of the corner, when usually the other guys are full gas. Nothing to say apart from sorry and that was my fault.
I guess it's better to take a break with these cars for me. They're really fun, but I don't feel in control of the situation when I have some cars near me. In this case I just opened the gas before the car in front of me and in two milliseconds I was on his back causing him a spin. Can't take the measures with these beasts... I'm only adanger on track.

See you :)



I helped there too, couldn't miss you when you lifted so tapped you - then got clobbered from behind and properly hit you.
Sorry  :(
Sorry also to Chris Thorpe who I must have scared half to death into the Hairpin - totally not an attempt to pass you but I suffered a major lock up and had to pick a side to pass you on. Choose the insode as I was already slightly to your right and just let go of the brakes enough to fire up the inside before you could turn in  ;D
Looks cool on the replay at least...

Aside from those two incidents I had a very tidy race, I greatly enjoyed the fight back up to 4th from 13th.
I seem to be working out some useful settings for these now, last week was a waste of time as I was so exhausted come race time.

Thanks for the racing guys  :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: Mark J on November 08, 2017, 11:19:36 PM +0000
Reasonably decent race for me. Feared the worst based on the stracker times but actually improved my pb's tonight getting into the 59's.

Race start was intense with 4 cars abreast and a swarm heading into t1  :o but it all looked clean for the most part other than a couple of cars falling off up ahead.
I spent most of the race in 4th until Maikel demoted me for a short while, but he fell off and I stayed 4th until 8 mins to go. But I got a wheel off in the tricky woods and ran wide losing 6 seconds  :( big shame as it gave Fmg a free pass to close right up and he pretty much breezed past as I was hot and flustered from the off. I chased for a bit only to clip a fence and lose a further 8 secs  ::)

Other than those two schmuck moments I had a clean race and got a well earned 5th on a very tough track.  :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: PorcoRosso86 on November 09, 2017, 10:27:20 AM +0000
A good race for me, at least.
Qualify 4. Had the pace to do a better time, but yesterday I had no chances to do a clean lap
Good start, but lost my rpm when I put the second gear. I saw some contacts on my mirrors, and Matteo, isn't necessary to apologize, I hadn't any contact from you ;D
Stayed flanked with ChrisR for 2 or 3 corners, and taked the lead the next lap.
After some laps (1/3 of race circa) I went along on first corner, lost my lead to Felix and until the end try to manage my gap from the third. After the bad result on Zand, I needed a good place on Don!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: ChrisR on November 09, 2017, 12:36:44 PM +0000
Utterly, utterly poor performance from me tonight..

Started by rushing home, burn my tea, shower was ice cold! Then by the time i gof on (5 mins left of practise) the rift kept steaming up so couldnt see, my qualify was done with one eye totally blurred. :/ then the mother of all cock ups, i clicked the wrong setup for the race!!

Car was all over, at the start it didnt seem too bad as i was taking it easy but as i started to push the car didnt want to know.. tired, confused and half blind i missed a brake marker and that ended my lead, then i miss shifted hurtling me into them ramps, both left side wheels were 90degrees off what they should be!

Tried to limp it home but in the end just returned to pits.. i should of stopped there really but i carried on hoping to make sone spots back, got tangled up with the leaders which i wanted to avoid, so appologies if i messed anyone's laps up,

Putting tgat race behind me!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: phspok on November 09, 2017, 12:48:30 PM +0000
Enjoyed that, even though I managed to bend suspension and steering with an off at the final hairpin half way through
Was having a good dice with Simon, but after the off I was way too slow, took a few laps to relearn how to
drive the car that wanted to go left all the time, and scared Fred and Walter a bit perhaps, sorry for that
I was not entirely in control of where the car went  ::)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: Felix Simoes on November 09, 2017, 02:23:55 PM +0000
Looking at the end result one might think I had the perfect race, but that couldn't be further from the truth.

During qualify my mouse fell on the floor hard. Didn't worry too much as I wouldn't need it until the end of the qualify. When the end come and I picked up the mouse (wireless by the way) it wasn't working any more... Now you can imagine the stress I felt with the race start coming fast and I had no way to click on the start button. Had to call out for my son for him to bring me his mouse so that I could join the race. ;D

Then when the race was about to start I had the missing start light bug. Because of that I had no idea when to I could start. So what I did was wait and only start when I saw the other cars moving. That meant I lost a lot of positions immediately. I apologise for causing a bit of a confusing with Sutol having to do an emergency move to avoid my almost stoped car.

As usual I was trying to be careful in the first corner but I got a bit of a tap which almost made me spin. Luckily I managed to save it, but I think I lost another position with that. Then a few corners ahead a few car tangled up and I rear ended someone that had dropped speed drastically (probably because of having rear ended someone else). Again I was lucky for not sustaining too much damage and could keep up my race pace.

I think because of all that confusion, I experienced another weird bug. My front wheels were - visually - static. Did not rotate, steer or move up and down on the bumps. It had no implication on the car stability but created a weird feeling while driving. I felt like going back 20/25 years where racing games did not have all this fancy animations of today's games.  :D

A few laps after that I went up to second when Chris went off and pushed to try to get PorcoRosso. I was faster a few tenths a lap and I knew I could catch him. But I wasn't too sure about passing and keeping in front of him. But he also went off on T1 and I got the first position. After that I gradually increased my distance and it could have been a quite race until the end.

By that time ChrisR was back on track and right behind me. So I engaged in a bit of a fight pushing to keep him back. It was fun with a couple of scary moments.  ;D



Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: Fabri Fibra on November 09, 2017, 05:04:26 PM +0000
A stage very tricky. My first thought was to get to the end without dying.

A track that i didn't know and i struggled to understand. I went very slow during the practice, but yesterday i pulled out from the cylinder (hat) a good feeling and i managed to make good qualifying laps, getting a 2nd place on the grid.

I started pretty badly, and i had a slight contact with Felix, which made us lose several positions. Before the grove it happened a huge accident involving few cars, but i passed unscathed. The lap after, Chris made a long and came back behind me. We fought a couple of times until he took advantage, but after few corners he did a mistake and went out.
After being quite far from Porco, i preferred simply administer the position.
In the last two laps i had great panic-moments, reviewing the red lotus of Chris, who was going like frenzied. I was really scared. :o

A nice race, hard and raw.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: Sutol on November 09, 2017, 05:47:30 PM +0000
@FMG yes I did think that it was a 'brave' move but you got away with it, then I don't know what happened but I ended up in front of you again. Then you tried the same move aqain!! but this time I held you off. Next lap I covered the rhs to stop your kamikase dive, so you decided to go round the outside lol and made it stick - well done.

My race was scuppered right from the start when I missed my brake point on the first lap whilst trying to avoid some swerving cars in front of me. Went head long into the concrete hay bales ffs. Ended up with a highly modified nose!!

Still enjoyed the race but a little disappointed that I didn't finish higher up the order.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: Fred Joseph on November 10, 2017, 07:41:38 AM +0000
and scared Fred and Walter a bit perhaps, sorry for that
I was not entirely in control of where the car went  ::)

Yes you did  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Donington Park 1938 - Nov 8
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 10, 2017, 02:41:56 PM +0000
@FMG yes I did think that it was a 'brave' move but you got away with it, then I don't know what happened but I ended up in front of you again. Then you tried the same move aqain!! but this time I held you off. Next lap I covered the rhs to stop your kamikase dive, so you decided to go round the outside lol and made it stick - well done.

My race was scuppered right from the start when I missed my brake point on the first lap whilst trying to avoid some swerving cars in front of me. Went head long into the concrete hay bales ffs. Ended up with a highly modified nose!!

Still enjoyed the race but a little disappointed that I didn't finish higher up the order.

On the 2nd occasion that was roughly my normal braking point, I was possibly slowing earlier than usual as I didn't think I could pass you from that far back  :)
Watching the replay I see you opted for braking more gently to avoid the risk of lockups on the bumps. There's a lot of time to be had in trying to balance the braking across the bumps although the risk - as you saw from my unintentional divebomb - is fairly high.
Ironically I discovered the absolute leftmost edge of the track is actually pretty flat and smooth when I went around the outside of you.
I changed my line for most of the remaining laps  ;D