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Title: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: Jeffrey on October 09, 2017, 02:23:08 PM +0100
Password: see above (#post_event_password) (released 24hrs before the race)

Round 8 - Thompson

(https://s1.postimg.org/4oowkiotbj/Screenshot_ks_lotus_25_thomson_9-10-117-15-14-49.jpg)

December 6th - Password entry (on day of race)

Practise: 19:30 (45 mins)
Qual: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30   30 minutes

Cars allowed:
Lotus 25

SKINPACK (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=14558.msg265319#msg265319). Top of driver's list on the opening post.

Track:  Thompson (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/thomson-road-grand-prix.13694/)
Trackpack (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=14558.0) Opening post


Live Timing: stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat (http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Weather: Clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: Not required

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=100
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=0
SESSION_TRANSFER=N/a

Damage: 70%

Password: see above (#post_event_password)

PLP App - Not used in this series. Cutting will be monitored on replay and penalties issued for excessive cutting.

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0)
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Thomson_Road_Circuit.svg/260px-Thomson_Road_Circuit.svg.png)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: Bob on December 01, 2017, 04:20:26 PM +0000
 :thumbup2: Shouldn't have the Longford first lap problems here. A lovely wide track but a bugger to learn.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: ChrisR on December 01, 2017, 04:25:53 PM +0000
Show of hands....

How many people missed the last turn and drove striaght into the pits on their first try?

Lol


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: Bob on December 01, 2017, 04:33:00 PM +0000
Plus one.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: Jeffrey on December 01, 2017, 05:47:04 PM +0000
Show of hands....

How many people missed the last turn and drove striaght into the pits on their first try?

Lol

Who would do such a silly thing  :whistling:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: Mark J on December 01, 2017, 08:45:42 PM +0000
For anyone who hasn't tried it yet, you will be pleased to know its a 'proper' race track, allowing at least 3 cars side by side I expect  :) and it only takes a few laps to learn it, always a bonus, but of course, more to master  :scooter:  The last sector is the trickier part with a  series of left-right sweeping corners  but its wide enough to shrug some speed off if needed before you go picking cocunuts  :D

Liking the Burma jungle feel about it. Half expecting a Jap to pop up out of the bushes  ;D

Nicely done circuit that I had never heard of, and should make for good racing. :yes:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: Fabri Fibra on December 01, 2017, 10:12:39 PM +0000
(https://store.hmv.com/app_/responsive/HMVStore/media/product/435667/01-435667.jpg?w=500)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: Bob on December 02, 2017, 12:25:33 PM +0000
Anyone run into the hot air balloon yet?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: phspok on December 02, 2017, 12:46:41 PM +0000
Sure I've done a version of this in GTL or P&G in the past, but I don't recognise it.
Am banished to London this week, so will miss it  :(

Pau does not seem to be in the L25 series bundle. I will go hunt for it, but could do with
knowing who's/which version we will be using. Of course there may be only one  ::)

Umm , I seem to have Pau67 already there. ok, I wil go get my sensible head out of the cupboard


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: Jeffrey on December 02, 2017, 12:56:05 PM +0000
Pau 67 is the right one, but I'll need to check the trackpack,  but it's the last add on track, so no real reason to download that pack.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: phspok on December 02, 2017, 01:18:30 PM +0000
Ok, Ta
Cracking track, this one I sort of remember.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: Jeffrey on December 02, 2017, 01:22:25 PM +0000
Ok, Ta
Cracking track, this one I sort of remember.

Pau 67 is in the trackpack, but if you haven't downloaded the pack yet, might as well just download the track individually. Trackpack is pretty much only for the start of the season, as a 1 time download to be sorted for the rest of the season.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: Maikel K. on December 04, 2017, 07:25:54 PM +0000
Show of hands....

How many people missed the last turn and drove striaght into the pits on their first try?

Lol

Who would do such a silly thing  :whistling:

Even though I knew of it and was expecting it, I still sailed right into the pits the first go.  8)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: Mark J on December 05, 2017, 08:30:37 PM +0000
how the heck am I 4.7 secs off the lead time here?  ??? its not that long a lap!  :-[

all I'm getting is heaps of understeer  :-\


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: ChrisR on December 06, 2017, 12:30:36 PM +0000
how the heck am I 4.7 secs off the lead time here?  ??? its not that long a lap!  :-[

all I'm getting is heaps of understeer  :-\

your basically not putting the power down soon enough or controlling the power oversteer well enough.. your not carrying enough speed through the twisty bits, it also doesnt look like you are flat out over the hump on the s/f straight and your exit to the last corner is compromised somewhat because your terminal speed up to that hump is slower. there are 2 fast left handers and it looks like your lifting on the second one, you take both these corners flat out and brake just as you exit the second but you must control the brake oversteer into the tight left hander.



Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: Jeffrey on December 06, 2017, 12:50:46 PM +0000
your basically not putting the power down soon enough or controlling the power oversteer well enough.. your not carrying enough speed through the twisty bits, it also doesnt look like you are flat out over the hump on the s/f straight and your exit to the last corner is compromised somewhat because your terminal speed up to that hump is slower. there are 2 fast left handers and it looks like your lifting on the second one, you take both these corners flat out and brake just as you exit the second but you must control the brake oversteer into the tight left hander.

To summarize, you seem to exit the pits very well  :P


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: ChrisR on December 06, 2017, 03:09:28 PM +0000
i dont think i'm going to be able to race tonight, i have to get this radiator mounted in the living room and its got to be done tonight at 7:30, so chances my chances of getting on are nearing zero.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: phspok on December 06, 2017, 03:57:24 PM +0000
I can't race tonight either as I am banished to London.
Should be running for the next two weeks though  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: Mark J on December 06, 2017, 04:34:14 PM +0000
how the heck am I 4.7 secs off the lead time here?  ??? its not that long a lap!  :-[

all I'm getting is heaps of understeer  :-\

your basically not putting the power down soon enough or controlling the power oversteer well enough.. your not carrying enough speed through the twisty bits, it also doesnt look like you are flat out over the hump on the s/f straight and your exit to the last corner is compromised somewhat because your terminal speed up to that hump is slower. there are 2 fast left handers and it looks like your lifting on the second one, you take both these corners flat out and brake just as you exit the second but you must control the brake oversteer into the tight left hander.



Other than that it’s the perfect lap  ;D :laugh:

Thanks Chris. Regarding the sector 1 hump I’ve tried all sorts of setup tweaks to not have to lift there but I end up in the trees on the left if I keep my foot in  :o
Aforementioned understeer is related to not being able to take some of the corners flat  :-\


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: phspok on December 06, 2017, 04:50:12 PM +0000
I watched a replay of my laps at the T1 hump, and the cars do take air  :o
Hard to steer with yer wheels waggling in the wind


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: ChrisR on December 06, 2017, 05:11:02 PM +0000
how the heck am I 4.7 secs off the lead time here?  ??? its not that long a lap!  :-[

all I'm getting is heaps of understeer  :-\

your basically not putting the power down soon enough or controlling the power oversteer well enough.. your not carrying enough speed through the twisty bits, it also doesnt look like you are flat out over the hump on the s/f straight and your exit to the last corner is compromised somewhat because your terminal speed up to that hump is slower. there are 2 fast left handers and it looks like your lifting on the second one, you take both these corners flat out and brake just as you exit the second but you must control the brake oversteer into the tight left hander.



Other than that it’s the perfect lap  ;D :laugh:

Thanks Chris. Regarding the sector 1 hump I’ve tried all sorts of setup tweaks to not have to lift there but I end up in the trees on the left if I keep my foot in  :o
Aforementioned understeer is related to not being able to take some of the corners flat  :-\

Turn in sharp and as far to the right as possible.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: Felix Simoes on December 06, 2017, 06:04:22 PM +0000
Here’s my fast lap video

https://www.facebook.com/felixssimoes/videos/10212259071250205/ (https://www.facebook.com/felixssimoes/videos/10212259071250205/)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: PorcoRosso86 on December 06, 2017, 07:32:23 PM +0000
Thanks a lot, felix. Excellent lap, will be hard for us to mantain your pace.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: PorcoRosso86 on December 06, 2017, 10:20:47 PM +0000
Decent race in a very hard track for me
Started 5th after a quite qualify, I knew that with my pace haven't any possibilites against the fantastic four, I had around 2.07.6, the others was below the 2.07.
Start! I saw in front me ChrisR that had some difficulties with the throttle. I decide anyway to be calm after Longford things, I tought "5th could be a good result after Longford".
After two or three cornes I saw ChrisR hit a poles and him hit fabri after and I managed to avoid them for little! Catched the 4th. Fmg for the first laps pushed very hard, and I was really slow because I had brakes and tyres cold yet. After some laps  I never more saw him on my mirrors, I think that him made a mistake.
Around half race, I saw Fabri and Maikel swing on the track! They was over 15 second on me! Catched the 3rd! But Maikel was there, so near! Try to push so hard, but him was really really fast, much more pace then me.
Ended 3rd, as always the race end at last corner, not at first.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: Mark J on December 06, 2017, 11:24:52 PM +0000
Bah disastrous race for me and my chief rival ChrisT bagged a load of useful points over me  :(
One minute I’m fighting him hard for 5th and enjoying it only to get a weird braking spin on the outside edge of the chicane that drops me to 11th and last  >:(
I then had two awful laps in a row losing over 9 secs per lap as the car just kept under steering into the scenery  ::) this was compounded by clashing with Bob who weirdly seemed to brake or slow dramatically right in front of me  :-\ this lost me more time and further car damage  :'(
I eventually got back into a rhythm and set decent lap times to catch Stefan with a few laps to go, closing him down but I stupidly then had a bad lap and smashed my right rear wheel on a lampost. To add insult to injury Chris r caught my wounded crabbing car on the last lap and I lost another place  :taz:
Seriously a race to forget.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: Fabri Fibra on December 06, 2017, 11:51:15 PM +0000
Terrible race also for me, really terrible.
I hope do better next race.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: Bob on December 07, 2017, 08:27:12 AM +0000
@MJ, damaged car and trying to get to pits, tried to keep out of way but car had other ideas, apologies.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: ChrisR on December 07, 2017, 09:21:08 AM +0000
Started ok, lost out to felix by the first corner, then had a moment where my brain switched off so i ran a little wide and left in 3rd which meant peeps behind caught up, maikel contacted me and i ended up dead last with a busted wheel.. managed to get it repaired but was about a minute behind 1st place.. 30secs behind 2nd to last..

Just put my head down, as mark mentioned i managed to gain a spot in the last section.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: Felix Simoes on December 07, 2017, 09:40:41 AM +0000
The qualification didn't went that well. I couldn't make a clean lap without a mistake, which meant I had to settle with 4th position on the starting grid.

I had a very good start and managed to get to the first corner in first place. Then I saw that something happened behind me and suddenly I was over 3 seconds ahead of the second place car. I relaxed a bit but not for long. Maikel started putting some really fast laps and I had push hard to keep my gap for a few laps. Then something happened and I was ahead by a few more seconds. After that it was a pretty uneventful 2/3 of the race. I tried to have some fun pushing for fun but careful enough to not over push and do some mistake.

Wining this race putted me in a good position for the rest of the championship, specially because I know that I won't to very good at the Nurburgring.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: Sutol on December 07, 2017, 10:30:29 AM +0000
@Mark, yes indeed bonus points for me. You flew past me on the jump and I thought that's the last i see of him. Then on the 2nd to last left you went a bit wide which allowed me to catch up and then of course there was your peculiar spin on the last corner which gifted me the place. Then on the penultimate lap, what i thought would be the last lap, fmg got past. Fmg must have hoped it was the last lap cos on the actual last lap he crawled to a snails pace, presumably conserving fuel, and i managed to get the place back.

So a 5th place, my highest this season, more by luck than by judgement  ;D


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: Mark J on December 07, 2017, 11:28:07 AM +0000
Total nightmare  :( that’s put an 8 point lead in your favour Chris in our season long fight over 5th in the championship, we were about 1pt apart before this race  :'( gutted.
With only 2 rounds remaining I don’t think I can gain enough points over you to overhaul you for 5th overall.  :surrender:

I managed to find an extra 2 secs lap pace last night so a good improvement over my practise times but still a shocking 3 secs off the front few guys  :o :( quite painful.

@bob, no worries assumed you must have been wounded by the sudden erratic loss of pace. Car damage really hurt here, I was 6 secs a lap slower with my crabbing rear wheel at the end  :o


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: Maikel K. on December 07, 2017, 11:41:13 AM +0000
It was a good and bad race for me.

I was kinda suprised at the extra pace I found all of a sudden, managed to quali 2nd. First corners were good, trying to take it easy. Apologies to ChrisR for the nudge, I just completely misjudged the distance between our cars. Thought I was following close behind and try for a better exit. But either my nose is longer or those exhaust are sticking out quite abit  :P

After that I had fun trying to catch up to Felix. I managed some good laps until I, of course, pused to hard and spun. Had a little run in with Fabri aswell, but oh well, shit happens and I wasn't going to catch Felix anyway anymore  ;D

Still had quite some fun with these cars. Finally seem to be getting the hang of them.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: Sutol on December 07, 2017, 11:58:13 AM +0000
Thing is Mark I have to rely on others failings - you don't!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: FullMetalGasket on December 07, 2017, 01:11:22 PM +0000
.lThen on the penultimate lap, what i thought would be the last lap, fmg got past. Fmg must have hoped it was the last lap cos on the actual last lap he crawled to a snails pace, presumably conserving fuel, and i managed to get the place back.

So a 5th place, my highest this season, more by luck than by judgement  ;D

Nope, it was worse than that!
I made my 2nd mistake of the race and outbreaked myself - clobbering a fence as a result.
This was only because I was pushing hard to make sure I could keep a decent gap back to you.
I'd had an arguement with a telegraph pole just before you passed me (I lost), and had lost so much speed I was. 5 secs down each lap by the time I reached the first hairpin!

It took me ages to set up that pass on you and I was dead chuffed, then I washed out and massively bent my steering. I had 90 degrees lock on just to drive straight after that - if I'd tried to battle you i'd just have crashed into you so I tried to make it easy.

Pleased to hold onto 6th of I'm honest, still up a couple from my qualifying position so can't complain I guess.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: frex on December 07, 2017, 01:18:45 PM +0000
Dangerous but fun track to drive, and enjoyed some good battles. As always in AC though I struggle to get enough lock on to get around the tight corners and was really losing time at the hairpins, especially the last one. I don't think AC works well with low rotation wheels like mine; either that or I don't have it set up correctly (Driver's excuse #124)..!

Still a fun race, although far too many mis-shifts this time and my gearbox eventually gave out. Congrats podium.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25 - Thompson - Dec 6
Post by: Jeffrey on December 11, 2017, 09:15:30 PM +0000
Forgot to ask, did anybody find any bugs on this track. Like invisible walls or falling through the ground?