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Grid/server capacity: 19

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (30 laps)

Track: Aintree Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg109873#post_aintree)

Cars allowed

AC Ace Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_ac_ace)
Aston Martin DBR1 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_aston_dbr1)
Aston Martin DBR2 (includes GTC-65 class fix) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_aston_dbr2)
Austin Healey 100 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_healey100s)
Ferrari 250 Testarossa Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_ferrari_250tr)
Ferrari 375+ Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_ferrari_375plus)
Jaguar D-Type (1955) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_jag_dtype)
Jaguar D-Type (1957) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_jag_dtype)
Maserati 450S (4.5) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_maserati_450s)
Maserati 450S (5.7) Contained in Maserati 450S download pack (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_maserati_450s)
Mercedes 300SL (LM55) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_merc_300sl_lm55)
Mercedes 300SL (Gullwing) Download this (http://www.mediafire.com/file/ywer47ui7h0c7jz/gamedata.zip)
Mercedes 300SLR Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_merc_300slr)

Car restrictions: The most popular make used at this event will be dropped from the list of cars available for future races. If two or more makes tie for most popular, then the highest finishing make will be dropped. The final race of the series will be "free choice" and all car makes will be available.

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: 2x
Pit stops: Required

Server: simracing.org.uk Mondays
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: Use countdown for this race please. Cars at the front of the grid may not see the start lights.

IMPORTANT

Late car addition (sorry). Mercedes 300SL Gullwing. Get download link in first post.

Not a quick car but it is such a nice mod it deserves to be included.

Tony, I do not want to open yet another account. Where else can I get this download from please?

I get this:  ???

You've reached a 1-Time link to a file that has expired or has already been used. Please contact the owner of the file if you believe you have arrived at this link in error.

I assume, what you mean with "Gullwing" is Butch's mod?
Since www.racingfr.com has been closed and their download section is down and also trippteam.servegame.com
server cannot neen found, there seems to be only the download at ABB left.

It's a real shame that GTL resources decrease more and more  :(

Do you need an account? I'm a fully paid up user of Mediafire so you should be able to get the download from the link I supply here.

Sorry for that. I must of set up something that restricts the number of downloads. I'll provide a new link then post here again.

Good job it's on my hard drive  ;)

New link http://www.mediafire.com/file/ywer47ui7h0c7jz/gamedata.zip

Thanks Tony car now installed and working.  ;D

Wrong, I have a problem Tony! Everything works OK offline but online I can only get a Merc Gullwing car when I have selected the Merc SLR  ::) ??? I have had a number of goes without success. I will go back and try using some other cars  online.

I'm currently backing up my race PC hard drives but when it's finished I'll see what happens when I try to use the SLR online and report back.

Thanks Tony. The AC Ace, AH100S and 250TR all work online OK but noticed that I  had omitted to download the Merc 300SL.  :o :wetfish: My Norton AV will not let me install the file, it has advised me that it is a Threat - WS Reputation.1  ??? It also records only 5 downloads from this Link. Is that all who are going to race in this Series? Any suggestions Please?

There are so far 10 downloads from the link. Please put Norton in your nearest dustbin. It is complete CARP. I hope you don't pay for it.

I have gone online with the Merc 300SLR with no probs. You need to tell me if there are other cars that do not appear (or use another car) online.

Check you have the original GTL Mercedes installed in your Fifties Endurance GTL Install.

I have used Kaspersky Internet Security (a proper anti-virus software) to scan the download file and it reports it to be clean and free from any nasties.

Disagree with regards to Norton; have been using it for years and very happy about it.  Norton of course can't know how many have downloaded that particular file in total; they only know how many Norton users have done so.  I get that same warning on most of the tracks/cars I download, and simply verify that the reason for the warning is the 5 users or less, and then select the option to run it anyway.

Yes Erling that's what I usually get also but in this case when I select the option to run it anyway it runs it but then removes the file with the warning I recorded in my earlier post.

I am unable to see how to get around this problem unfortunately and can not download the LM55 300 SL from the given link.

Yes Tony I have the original GTL Merc 300SL but can't use it as it shows up when I try and use it online as "Car Not Installed" I don't know if the lack of car will cause a problem when other drivers are on line.  Assuming it doesn't then I will only be able to race the Gullwing Merc and all the other cars. I can live with that if when I used up all the cars I can drive a couple of them again.  (Hope that makes sense.)

Can you not temporarily disable Norton? Then download the file.

I asked about the original Merc as most LM55 cars require it to be installed. I thought this may be part of your problem. You will not see it online as it is not required for racing.

If you try and join an online race and you do not have the Merc Gullwing installed you will definately have a problem.

If it's the LM55 300SL, I have that file downloaded from earlier, and Norton reports no problem when scanning it.  Can send it to you Bill, if that might solve the problem.

FYI
Aintree - Country/VIllage/Canal Turn  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNUX0883MEI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNUX0883MEI)

Yes please Erling, would you email it to me? ;D

File is sent; please let me know if you received it ok.

I did go through the download procedure for the Mercs and I too had to override Windows Defender which thought that these files were dangerous.
I noticed that the Gullwing comes in its own "gamedata" folder and that it wants to put this particular car in the GTC65 group? So I allowed it to do its thing. Is this correct Tony, or should it go in the LM55 group and could this be why some members are not seeing the gullwing option?

I have not had a chance to actually test out the installs yet, to see if all the cars are actually OK. I have most of the car files already there in my monster GTL installation, so if there are issues I would only expect them with the new Mercs.  ;)

That is the correct location. This car isn't really part of the LM55 car set.  :thumbup1:

Tony I now have the 300 SL LM55 cars installed and working online, the only remaining problem is I can't drive the 300 SLR which I can live with!

All working fine her - tested the 57 D-Type, the small Maserati and all versions of the Mercedes online
(the Gullwing is a smooth but slow drive - best 2:06.2 so far) and the DBR1 offline.

Miraculously the fastest and the only car under 2:00 for me is the 57 D-Type  ???

And the second miracle is: I'm testing on two separate GTL installations at the moment, my regular UKGTL online install
using G25 shift pedals (I destroyed two G25 shifters a long time ago) and a "testing" installation trying
my new Thrustmaster TH8A shifter (H-pattern). I found out that with the latter I'm nearly 2 seconds faster (D-Type)
than using the pedals  ::).

Thinking about using the TH8A on Monday as an experiment.

Online with Matt and Bill an hour ago.
Went to the pits and wanted to come back on track but couldn't as it looks like Bill was blocking  ???
Then killed and restarted the game but couldn't rejoin due to the same reason.
No idea whether it was my install or a problem on Bill's side.
Bill, which car did you drive?

Still faster by using the Thrustmaster shifter in the D-Type, only a slight difference in the Gullwing (new pb 2:05.9)

 8)

Hello everyone, tomorrow begins a new season, the third for me here in UKGTL and I take this opportunity to wish everyone to have many beautiful fights and fun and secondly to get many beautiful podiums, but for this we must be faster than Geoffers , Erling and Clive, means that someone will have to extract some rabbit from their cylinder, in my case some turkish rabbits (rare products), however what matters is to enjoy the privilege of having a steering wheel in your hands.

I want to thank Tony for having accepted my proposal to create a whole series dedicated to the Abarth "Coppa Mille" (Geoffers you are a magician with these small cars and I'm sure you will entertain us all). Why Abarth? In Italy and abroad, Abarth is a tradition that means preparing small cars like the Fiat 600 and the Fiat 850 in order to make them real racing cars on all tracks, without neglecting the Simca Abarth 1150 ss.

Thanks to Tony for having created a new system for the allocation of points, as you all know, all the races in the program is almost prohibitive and in the past it happened that due to illness, holidays or problems with the Server or AV someone lost the opportunity to fight until the last race for the victory or the podium in the various championships, well this season thanks to Tony we will not have this handicapp anymore, this will allow you to have exciting and uncertain championships until the end, and maybe with some surprise winner.

I take the time to apologize to Erling for the episode that occurred between me and him at Thermalito, in the future I will be more careful even I am a human (it is already a lot for me that someone considers me a driver, I am just an amateur with so many things to learn from you, I can barely hold a steering wheel in my hands) and I can make some mistakes.

In the end I apologize to Tony for all the times I broke his balls with my PM full of protests and dirty words in 2017, I will try to avoid this in 2018, thanks for the patience Tony.
With Erling and me in the Xmass event UKGTL would have lost the challenge with NGR, but for me it is an honor to be part of this wonderful group of people who are here in UKGTL, even if I am full of flaws and imperfect (no reference to my arm), who knows maybe it is the time that really to a donkey like me the wings snack ............................ ::)

I know that what I wrote is off topic, but I was different time without writing a post and this is my first post of 2018, however, I apologize to everyone for this, thanks and best wishes !!

Bill was in the AH100, I had the same issue, because, no idea why, but I didn't have the AH100 installed
it was the only one I didn't have.

Hmm, I can get a couple of Lancashire rabbits having a cuddle
(https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/533970701.jpg?w=620&h=431&crop=1)

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

Use them for the ragù sauce

Thanks Matt - could be the same reason with me. I'll check that.

Hope to give you some sort of challenge this season Ziu, but I am struggling to get used to my new G29 wheel. I am nearly as quick as with my old DFP, but I keep falling off the track. May stick to the DFP for this race, see how I feel tomorrow. Cya all there.

I m very sorry Geoffers,  I was waiting new season to challenge you on the track. 2017 has been poor,  few battles between me and you.  I hope that you solve this issue soon. At least when will come the moment to replace my g27 I will ask some advice to you

In the past, forgiven and forgotten, but thanks anyway  :)

That was it - forgot to install the AH100  ::) . Thanks again. Looking forward to tonights race, using the Thrustmaster shifter.

Thanks Ziu for your kind words. See you on track however on the other end of the grid  :laugh:

Hi Tony no server running at moment?

Odd, I was on it this morning and the server says it was running just now but I checked and it wasn't. Re-started now with usual race password.

Thank You Tony

Pressed a wrong button just after the start and knocked me out of the race. Sh.. happens.
Hours of practice in vain  :P

@ Erling: I'm quite sure that you missed to install one or more cars, for example the AH100 and/or the AC  :(

Really !"£$ing annoyed, Had seen a few 1:54's in practice felt really good coming into this and internet went down 3 times in practice and again waiting for the grid to form. !"£$ ing BT.

Bad luck Erling, Kurt and Jeep. Put it new PB in Qualifying and again in race - got too cocky  ::) and smashed into that little wall on exit of T1 and wrecked the engine, early bath!  :oops: :rockon:

Thanks Kurt, but I have both the AH100 and AC; have used them several times before. 

Would really like to know what could earn me a DQ before even joining the grid  ???

Was no fun without you. Geoff and I had a good battle, would have been a good 3 way
Ziu  :alien: was somewhere in Fazackerly, was not on the same track as us mortals  :tank:

Grats to the podium guys and to all finishers, and apologies to anyone who was compromised by a wild Ferrari in the first 50% of the race.

Perhaps Mabel and Arnold were involved Erling because there was precious little attention to detail in my pit!!?  It might explain why some dimwit fitted Vintage tyres on a car that was set up to run on Dunlops!!! The first half of my race was a nightmare with a car that would spin without warning or provocation...ask Bob M he must have been laughing so much that his seat is wet!!!
Almost quit in disgust but thought that I would at least get as far as the pitstop and see if my practicing had improved my technique. So pitted at the earliest I could, even though it meant carrying too much fuel ( I was too stressed to work out the revised amount!). I was just going to fill up and go, but it was then that I spotted those vintage tyres  :o :o :o so did a tyre swap too. OOOOh bliss  ::) a car that was not trying to kill me or wrench my arms out of their sockets.
Second half of race was much better but I was simply hot lapping with no chance of any champagne....should've taken the big Mazzer  :shifty:

I was nearly two seconds faster with the Vintage stangely.
I tried the 250, and was faster in it than the 375, but though I normally find it a
nice easy drive it was a slippery snake in Scousland

Results and replay now posted.

Aston Martin DBR2 will be dropped for all further races (not the final race).

I would have liked to join this series, but after have installed all the cars I am always in the Merc 300 SL LM55 even if I select any other car. Same problem I have when I install the Mini 1275.
If I deinstall the Merc LM55, all others cars work fine.
Plus I keep loosing the online key every time I join a server in Multiplayer.
No fun  :(

Hi, are you on Windows 10?
Is your GTL from Steam?

I'm really sorry for the misadventures that have struck both Erling and John, every victory has a value for me but when one wins and two important opponents do not even take the start una vittoria is worth little, even less if a driver like Geoffers, the best among us, have problems with his new steering wheel and anyway grats to Matt and Geoffers for their podium.

Despite my advantage both in qualifying and in the race was not easy, in qualifying I did not get my ideal time, I could do 0.4 seconds less because my first fastest lap 1: 54.1 had the best 2 sectors, when I did 1: 53.9 the first sector was +0.218 and the second +0.007 and I closed the lap with about -0.2, this means that it was possible 1: 53.6 at least. In practice I never went below 1:54 I always turned thinking about the race, the most comfortable choice was the Aston Martin DBR2, already after a few laps in practice I could do easy 1: 55 with a suitable setup 1:53 was sure, but when I can choose a Ferrari I do not think it can be fast or slow, I just take it because it's FERRARI.

In the race I did everything I could to make no mistake, the Ferrari 375 is a bit difficult to manage out of corners especially in the last few laps with little fuel and worn tires, although it is true that here the tires consumption was the last problem.

In the end I want to say to Erling and John that it's like we're all starting from scratch the next race with this scoring system, so nothing is lost

As I mentioned in an earlier post I have purchased a G29 wheel to replace my aging DFP & am still getting used to it. I did think about using the DFP for this race as I was a little quicker with it & more consistent, but in the end I decided it was best to use the new one. I wasn't too confident of finishing though as I was having problems getting acquainted with the new pedals. Now have 3 instead of 2 & in the NG race on Sunday, I only lasted until the first corner. As I left foot brake I have to remember to move my foot after starting & as I discovered on Sunday, the car doesn't stop too well if you use the clutch pedal instead of the brake! ::) Also with the G29 you need to use a lot more pressure on the brake pedal than with the DFP & I am finding myself not braking hard enough & overshooting corners. So at the moment I am having to think about what I am doing rather than it being natural & with my limited brain power that means lots of mistakes!  :o

Anyhow last nights race went better than I expected, although it wasn't mistake free. Actually went quicker in qually than I had managed with the DFP so quite chuffed with that & started 2nd on the grid. Didn't fancy trying to duke it out with Ziu at the first turn so lifted early to let him have the line, but a slight bump & me forgetting to change down a gear meant I slithered wide onto the grass & everyone shot past. Regained a few places, mainly due to the Aston's straight line speed & when Ziu made an early stop I was up to 2nd behind Matt. We were lapping about the same pace & the gap only changed just before half distance when Matt must have made an error.

Pitted at half distance & somehow managed to come out in front of Matt only to forget to re-engage the limiter exiting the pits & pick up an S/G. Pitted again next lap & was surprised when Matt did also, so still hung on to 2nd place with Ziu now miles ahead. All looked good for 2nd place with Matt about 4s behind until I messed up my pedals approaching the Melling Crossing, putting my foot half on the brake & half on the clutch, & before I knew it I was attempting the first fence on the GN course!  ::) Fortunately it wasn't solid & I drove straight through it but had to carry until after the pits before I could get back on the track, by which time not only had Matt gone past but Rog had too & I'd also been lapped by Ziu. Used my straight line advantage to retake 3rd from Rog & followed Ziu for the remainder of the race.

All in all though I was happy to get to the finish & a podium was a bonus.

Congrats to Ziu & Matt  :clap: :clap: & bad luck to Erling for not being able to get on the grid. :thumbdown:

Yep, Win10 and Steam. I have copied the fresh install out of Steam and result is the same installing those cars, plus online the engine sound is worst than offline with the stand-alone install.
Ciao

You need to apply admin rights to all the .exe files e.g. GTL.exe and the graphics config file which I think is called 3dconfig.exe

Look at this thread for details of Steam related problems and possible fixes https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=12190.0

Couldn't help smiling when reading about Geoffers' G29 problems - I made the exact same error when I went from a DFP to a G27; forgot to move my foot from the clutch to the brake, which I discovered at the first corner..  Have also released the clutch at the start, with a wildly revving engine, but going nowhere since I had forgotten to put the car in gear..  ::)

Would still like to find the reason for my DQ yesterday.  We have used all these cars before, bar the Gullwing Merc, but I verified earlier that it and the other Mercs were working online.  Don't particularly fancy practicing for hours again, if it's going to happen in the next races too.

Erling, Am I correct to assume that when the countdown started to join the grid, you couldn't?

Didn't someone else have that problem a while back and someone else posted a fix?

Sorry but I'm struggling to remember who or when it was but I'm sure such a conversation happened.

I hope it doesn't happen again as I can fully appreciate the total frustration you must of had. Fingers crossed.

Yes that's exactly what happened Tony - when the countdown started, the join button was immediately greyed out and there was basically nothing I could do.  Got some mismatch messages with Ziu during practice and qual, but we see these so often, without it having this effect.   Can't recall the conversation and fix you mention, but then my memory isn't what it used to be..  :-\   

I had some curious 'gdb' mismatch messages at the Xmas races, presumed it was some track related thing, but when trying the server the other day I still had them. An investigation showed that I had mistakenly installed the LM Classics (late 60s) cars to my main UKGTL install before realising they needed a separate installation of GTL. Although I had removed them it had still left a 'LMClassics' folder in 'GameData/Teams', when I removed that I didn't get the mismatch. However it didn't stop me joining races, so that was probably not the cause of your problem.

Don't quote me but I think someone said if you hit the ESQ key it fixed the greyed out button?

@ Matt.
It might well be the case that the Vintage tyres are faster, I believe that Erling feels the same. But, and a big but, I have discovered that the different tyres require different pressures ? Which is why I just could not understand why the centre line temp was approx. 15 degrees higher for the first half of the race  ???....Vintage tyres obviously need a lower pressure!! I think the unavoidable error ( Arnold says that it was NOT a mistake) came about because I did try the vintage option in pre race practice just for a few laps and decided that I preferred the "feel" of the Dunlops......maybe I should give those vintage rubbers some more serious testing if they are worth 2 secs a lap!!!!!????

DOH!!  That would be the last button I had dared to touch, but at that point, I had nothing to lose, so could have done it.  ::)  Shame we can't test it, but will try to remember, if it happens again.

Clive: Yes I'm normally faster on vintage. Can't explain it though, as it mostly feels like driving on ice...

After all these disussions, simply the results for last nights race:

Results (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/Aintree_08012018)

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Looks like it was a very interesting one  :(

I have the same problem pointed in that thread with the online Keys and mandatory cars. I had already set compatibility XP and admin rights time ago when I hadn't the key problem. In the meantime I had updated win10 to last ver. and one Steam update.
I have the right CD key in registry under Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\10tacle Studios\GTL\Keys but it point on the standalone install in E:\GTL but it ask for a key every time I exit from Multiplayer.
Thx for your help

Did you read the post about leaving the "-"'s out of the online code? Also CD Key is not Online key but if you received GTL from Steam I think this is just a case of wrong terminology.

Yep Tony, I have the CD key from Steam and I can copy and past it in GTL when it ask for that after registration (without "-" ) and then I can join multiplayer, but it doesn't save it so when I exit multiplayer I have to do registration again. Very strange, multiplayer worked fine for two months since first installation, but now anymore.
Ciao

Did you already have a GTL account at Altbierbude in the past?

If so that would possibly cause the problems you are experiencing.

Look at post #2 in this thread http://www.nogripracing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=184088

You need to tell the admin at Altbierbude to delete your old account details so that you can start again.

No, I didn't have, but I'll have a look.
Thx