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Title: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Silverstone - Jul 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 16, 2017, 01:15:05 PM +0000
Championship Standings here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=575&theme=5)

Grid/server capacity: 22

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (34 laps)

Track: Silverstone GP 70's Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg109873#post_silverstone70)

Cars allowed

AC Ace Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_ac_ace)
Aston Martin DBR1 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_aston_dbr1)
Aston Martin DBR2 (includes GTC-65 class fix) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_aston_dbr2)
Austin Healey 100 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_healey100s)
Ferrari 250 Testarossa Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_ferrari_250tr)
Ferrari 375+ Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_ferrari_375plus)
Jaguar D-Type (1955) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_jag_dtype)
Jaguar D-Type (1957) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_jag_dtype)
Maserati 450S (4.5) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_maserati_450s)
Maserati 450S (5.7) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_maserati_450s)
Mercedes 300SL (LM55) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_merc_300sl_lm55)
Mercedes 300SL (Gullwing) Download this (http://www.mediafire.com/file/ywer47ui7h0c7jz/gamedata.zip)
Mercedes 300SLR Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_merc_300slr)

Car restrictions: The most popular model used at this event will be dropped from the list of cars available for future races. If two or more models tie for most popular, then the highest finishing model will be dropped. The final race of the series will be "free choice" and all car models will be available.

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: 2x
Pit stops: Required

Server: simracing.org.uk Mondays
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Silverstone - Jul 9
Post by: SpecialKS on July 03, 2018, 06:23:09 AM +0100
A kind of a teaser:

https://www.automobilsport-magazin.de/en/automobilsport.html (https://www.automobilsport-magazin.de/en/automobilsport.html)

 8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Silverstone - Jul 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 03, 2018, 11:56:36 PM +0100
IMPORTANT

Race length reduced to 34 laps.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Silverstone - Jul 9
Post by: johnw on July 05, 2018, 11:00:07 AM +0100
Hi guys, mind if I join you for this one?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Silverstone - Jul 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 05, 2018, 11:03:46 AM +0100
Hi guys, mind if I join you for this one?
Yes, we absolutely would mind!  ;)

Only joking, anyone can join our races as long as they are registered to this site. Try to encourage your mate's from NG to join us. We are really nice  :-*


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Silverstone - Jul 9
Post by: BillThomas on July 05, 2018, 11:53:17 AM +0100
Hi guys, mind if I join you for this one?
Yes, we absolutely would mind!  ;)

Only joking, anyone can join our races as long as they are registered to this site. Try to encourage your mate's from NG to join us. We are really nice  :-*

Hear, hear!  :rockon:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Silverstone - Jul 9
Post by: SpecialKS on July 05, 2018, 01:39:31 PM +0100
Hi guys, mind if I join you for this one?
Yes, we absolutely would mind!  ;)

Only joking, anyone can join our races as long as they are registered to this site. Try to encourage your mate's from NG to join us. We are really nice  :-*

 ;D ;) 8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Silverstone - Jul 9
Post by: seniordan on July 06, 2018, 06:33:00 PM +0100
I am still on the coast, working on my suntan but I'd like to have a go when we're back. May take another few weeks though.

Cheers, Dan


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Silverstone - Jul 9
Post by: lovegtl on July 09, 2018, 07:08:50 PM +0100
hi guys is it ok to join for a race tonight thanks


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Silverstone - Jul 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 09, 2018, 08:03:48 PM +0100
hi guys is it ok to join for a race tonight thanks
yep, no probs mate


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Silverstone - Jul 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 09, 2018, 09:54:42 PM +0100
Result and replay now posted.

Welcome John and hard luck LoveGTL. Please join us again soon.

We lose the Jaguar D-Type (1957) for future races.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Silverstone - Jul 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 10, 2018, 09:19:46 AM +0100
Could LoveGTL please post to let us know what happened to him last night. Hopefully it is something we can solve?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Silverstone - Jul 9
Post by: phspok on July 10, 2018, 11:22:38 AM +0100
Was a good event, spoiled for me by taking the wrong car. I liked the Jag 57 and although it had a tendancy
to dive off the track under braking howeer I set the bias it seemed like a good fun choice. It was at 1st, and had
great fun dicing with Clive, but as the tyres started to go off the thing would snap sideways under braking
and throw itself accross the grass. and after the 3rd stop and go, I got fed up, so killed the dam thing.

Were you on the vintage tyres Clive?   (Coomb again on the 28th July if you have nothing better to do.....)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Silverstone - Jul 9
Post by: BillThomas on July 10, 2018, 11:25:28 AM +0100
Apologies Tony, had Grandson and partner down for long weekend, followed by a late morning Funeral of neighbour’s father and wake. Combined with the hot weather I was too knackered to race, was in bed before Qualifying started. Don’t think I’ve slept for so long for ages - must be getting Old!  ::)  :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Silverstone - Jul 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 10, 2018, 11:49:16 AM +0100
Apologies Tony, had Grandson and partner down for long weekend, followed by a late morning Funeral of neighbour’s father and wake. Combined with the hot weather I was too knackered to race, was in bed before Qualifying started. Don’t think I’ve slept for so long for ages - must be getting Old!  ::)  :laugh:
No probs Bill. I played golf in the morning and did some heavy pruning in the garden in the afternoon and I was ready for my bed last night.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Silverstone - Jul 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 10, 2018, 01:01:03 PM +0100
Great race last night with good racing with Clive and Kurt in particular. Very enjoyable. Did have one moment when following Clive he braked earlier than I had anticipated and as a consequence I had to go full anchors which mean't I lost control and span off. I rejoined and was narrowly missed by Kurt, good reactions mate!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Silverstone - Jul 9
Post by: Bob M. on July 10, 2018, 02:13:06 PM +0100
Grats to the podium. 
will try to race with you guys again the 23rd at Brno.  Bill the heat kills me also, it's a age thing I'm sure.  It's been around 95*F (35C) with high humidity here daily.  My oldest son and myself have been cleaning the garage and such outside getting ready for the move and it really saps the old body....

See you all later
Bob M.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Silverstone - Jul 9
Post by: BillThomas on July 10, 2018, 02:43:22 PM +0100
Grats to the podium. 
will try to race with you guys again the 23rd at Brno.  Bill the heat kills me also, it's a age thing I'm sure.  It's been around 95*F (35C) with high humidity here daily.  My oldest son and myself have been cleaning the garage and such outside getting ready for the move and it really saps the old body....

See you all later
Bob M.

Yes it was trying to keep up with a pair of 26 year olds. The  grandson has spent many summers with us and was trying to show his partner as much as he could eg all of Weston super Mare prominard, Pier and town in 32 degrees with a cloud less sky! Real stamina sapping weather.



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Silverstone - Jul 9
Post by: Erling G-P on July 10, 2018, 05:05:05 PM +0100
Very hard race yesterday.  Knew it would be a tough one when Johnw signed in, so absolutely needed the fastest car for me, which was the 375.  Never liked it; can't dial out its vices via setup, so just had to work around them.  Had to exceed myself to claim pole, getting into 1:37 for the first time.

Crappy start, losing several places, but made them up on L1, to claim the lead.  John right up my chuff, in relentless pursuit. Any mistake was punished immediately, with the distance shortened.  At one point he went slightly off, giving me a 3-4 secs gap.  Should have been a small breather, but I made small mistakes myself, and then caught traffic in very awkward places, costing me more time than John, so he was soon breathing down my neck again. 

Thus the first 30 laps was more sprint than enduro. When John went for the pits very late in the race, the gap was around 7 secs.  Had tested offline that I could do 31+ laps, so planned to pit on L30. Fight with John must have eaten more fuel though - if I had waited to L30, I couldn't complete another lap, in case I missed the pits, so moved it ahead to L29 instead.  Executed it as fast as I could, and probably looked more in my mirrors than ahead for the first lap after.

When I passed the pits after that lap, the board showed a 12 secs gap, and with 4 laps to go, I could finally relax a little.  Caught some traffic on the final laps, but tried to stay far enough back so I wouldn't interfere with the battles going on.

Apologies to Clive, if I inadvertently held you up at T1 after finishing the race. Stupidly didn't consider that you had one more lap to complete :oops:  I know you ran out of fuel, but still shouldn't have been so thoughtless.

Thanks to John for a very hard fight, and congrats to him & Roger for filling the podium.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Silverstone - Jul 9
Post by: EvilClive on July 10, 2018, 07:16:35 PM +0100
Grats to Erling and John (in the 55 D-type!!)  and Roger who had their own race out front. I was hoping that by taking the 57 Jag it might remove the car from the list as I could never seem to find the sweet spot, or master that 4 speed gearbox. Practice and qualifying were spent trying to tame the wayward braking, that Matt was also fighting.
I opted for the vintage tyres as they looked like they might last longer, but the only way that I could make the setup work and keep control was to brake early and gently ( sorry Tony  :o ), then almost 4 wheel drift the car through the apex as I poured on the gas. FWIW I found that I really could not brake into the apex, because the car just would not turn if my foot was anywhere near the stop pedal, but it was very stable under smooth acceleration ( no wheelspin!). By the end of the race I had dialled into the car and just when I was feeling really confident...I ran out of gas  :-\.lol

Just a little miffed that I did run out of fuel on the last lap, but probably no more than I deserved after zero practice and simply guessing how much fuel was needed at the pit stop.

I had intended to just refuel and keep the old tyres for the whole race, as they were only 50% worn and just 6 laps to go?? Should've been OK and kept me comfortably in 4th......but I am still wrestling with the panic and process at pit stops. Had to back up twice to get the pitboard up and then forgot to cancel the tyres  :-\ :-\ what a numpty!! When I did eventually emerge from the pitlane Tony swept past to claim 4th, but I was reasonably confident that I could outpace his car, having done exactly that earlier in the race. I had just made the pass and pulled a safe gap when i realised that I could not make the full race distance.
I wanted Erling to pass me before the S/F line and save me having to do another lap, but Tony was too close and Erling was too much of a gentleman to push past us :(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Silverstone - Jul 9
Post by: SpecialKS on July 10, 2018, 08:58:04 PM +0100
Result (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/70Silverstone_09072018)

8)

Less competitive than desired, but fun. Thought that we already raced here in these cars but couldn't find a setup.
What a pity LoveGTL left before the start - I assume he was confused about the mismatch notification.
Not quite sure concerning the correctness of Matt's result which I posted. As far as I remember he completed at least 30 laps
and I passed him only towards the end of my 31st lap (cannot watch the replay atm as I'm on Linux)

Thanks for organizing


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Silverstone - Jul 9
Post by: phspok on July 10, 2018, 09:19:43 PM +0100
I was 2 or laps down Kurt, doesnt matter about accuracy  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Silverstone - Jul 9
Post by: Erling G-P on July 10, 2018, 10:33:44 PM +0100

I wanted Erling to pass me before the S/F line and save me having to do another lap, but Tony was too close and Erling was too much of a gentleman to push past us :(


Sorry about that Clive; it's never easy to know what to do.  I would hate to break up someones battle, by forcing a pass I really didn't need - maybe you should predefine a message saying 'Pass me you idiot!!'  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Silverstone - Jul 9
Post by: johnw on July 11, 2018, 09:22:54 PM +0100
That was fun while it lasted :) I seemed to have a bit of an advantage on grip over Earling in the first few laps, but once the tyres had gone off a bit I wasn't able to fully commit in the fast stuff like Abbey for fear of losing it  :o

As Clive and Matt have already said - the brakes are a bit of a handful, I think I had the balance set a bit far back for a long race, it was fine for the first half, but then increasingly wanted to swap ends on the way into the corners. Little mistakes started to creep in and once I'd lost the tow I couldn't stay close enough to put any real pressure on.

Thought about changing tyres halfway, but it never seems to be worth it given the extra time taken. I went with the vintage tyres as they seemed to have more grip overall, but weren't anywhere near as progressive as the modern ones, which didn't help with the braking situation.

I briefly thought Erling might be running out of fuel at the end, but didn't realise he was just being gentlemanly.

Grats Erling, good racing :thumbup1:



then almost 4 wheel drift the car through the apex as I poured on the gas

That's the fastest way, Clive!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Silverstone - Jul 9
Post by: Clive Loynes on July 11, 2018, 09:57:48 PM +0100
............. what a numpty!!


Excuse me!  No call for that sort of thing.   ::)


@JohnW  Well done that man!  Keep the soggy flag flying!   :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Silverstone - Jul 9
Post by: Erling G-P on July 11, 2018, 10:02:46 PM +0100
Grats Erling, good racing :thumbup1:

Thanks John, it was indeed.  Looked at the replay and must say I'm impressed at the way you were attacking the corners in that D-Type late in the race. Had I known at the time I was being chased like that, it would have made me nervous..  :o


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Silverstone - Jul 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 11, 2018, 10:12:43 PM +0100
the brakes are a bit of a handful, I think I had the balance set a bit far back for a long race, it was fine for the first half, but then increasingly wanted to swap ends on the way into the corners.
I believe that GTL will let you alter brake balance in car.

EDIT: Just checked and the default keys are "[" for front brake bias and "]" for the rears. Never bothered myself so I have no idea if/how it works.