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Title: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Solitude - Nov 21
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 16, 2017, 01:25:45 PM +0000
Championship Standings here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=575&theme=5)

Grid/server capacity: 22

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (14 laps)

Track: Solitude 1964 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg249198#post_solitude_1964).

Cars allowed

AC Ace Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_ac_ace)
Aston Martin DBR1 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_aston_dbr1)
Aston Martin DBR2 (includes GTC-65 class fix) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_aston_dbr2)
Austin Healey 100 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_healey100s)
Ferrari 250 Testarossa Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_ferrari_250tr)
Ferrari 375+ Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_ferrari_375plus)
Jaguar D-Type (1955) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_jag_dtype)
Jaguar D-Type (1957) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_jag_dtype)
Maserati 450S (4.5) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_maserati_450s)
Maserati 450S (5.7) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_maserati_450s)
Mercedes 300SL (LM55) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_merc_300sl_lm55)
Mercedes 300SL (Gullwing) Download this (http://www.mediafire.com/file/x24qm4qekj4mz15/mercedes300slCoupe.zip/file)
Mercedes 300SLR Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_merc_300slr)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: 2x
Pit stops: Required

Server: simracing.org.uk Wednesday
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Solitude - Nov 21
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 16, 2018, 10:42:09 AM +0000
IMPORTANT

No. of laps increased to 14.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Solitude - Nov 21
Post by: Erling G-P on November 17, 2018, 02:33:08 PM +0000
Wonderful track!  :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Solitude - Nov 21
Post by: Bob M. on November 17, 2018, 03:05:23 PM +0000
Hope I can make this one, depends on the when the "boss lady" wants to depart on a short road trip to see family a couple of hundred miles away for our Thursday  Thanksgiving day get together.  Learned after over 50 yrs together as they say, "A happy wife is a happy life".

Bob M.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Solitude - Nov 21
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 19, 2018, 12:17:33 PM +0000
Please take a look at a new poll and add your vote. https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=15205.msg277509#msg277509


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Solitude - Nov 21
Post by: Bob M. on November 21, 2018, 06:17:55 PM +0000
Won't make this race as we are going to be on the road shortly.  Wife wan'ts to leave this PM so she can spend more time with the kids and grand kids.  Myself and my daughter know the real reason is she wants to be there when the cooking starts early in the morning.  Somebody has to be the supervisor.....
Have fun all!!!

Bob M.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Solitude - Nov 21
Post by: Erling G-P on November 21, 2018, 06:21:17 PM +0000
Won't make this race as we are going to be on the road shortly.  Wife wan'ts to leave this PM so she can spend more time with the kids and grand kids.  Myself and my daughter know the real reason is she wants to be there when the cooking starts early in the morning.  Somebody has to be the supervisor.....
Have fun all!!!

Bob M.

A shame Bob, but hope you'll have a nice time anyway!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Solitude - Nov 21
Post by: Ziu Bacubacu on November 21, 2018, 09:48:47 PM +0000
Grats Geoffers and Fulvio. Since second lap my car was with a suspension damaged I had a problem overtaking Fulvio but battles sometime are so. It has been a race incident. Without any problem I could have a battle with Geoffers until last meter...


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Solitude - Nov 21
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 21, 2018, 10:00:48 PM +0000
Results and replay now posted.

I hope Marco enjoyed our event and will join us for some more racing soon. Could he fill in his country under Profile/Driver details please.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Solitude - Nov 21
Post by: Geoffers on November 22, 2018, 09:57:20 AM +0000
Wonderful track!  :)

Yes indeed Erling one of my favourites. Was lucky enough to go to the Revival event there last year when we were on our way back from holiday. Being a racing mad youngster in the 1960s I read about these old road circuit events, they always seemed to be very atmospheric & pictures showed they were attended by huge crowds. Of course we could not afford to go to any of these events in far away places back then, just the odd meeting at Silverstone, Goodwood or Brands Hatch. Often think it would be great to be transported back to that era & be part of the theatre of these great old circuits.

Anyway enough of that. Really did not expect this result, I thought Ziu's recent experience with the Mercedes would see him disappear into the distance, but he got a bad start & I was able to grab the lead. Lost it momentarily on the long straight when Fulvio drafted past & he was half a car length in front approaching the braking zone at the end, was not going to contest the corner this early in the race & risk a collision so lifted off early only for Fulvio to lift even earlier so I regained the lead almost by default!  :o
Pulled away a little through the twisty sections & by the straight on lap 2 I was far enough ahead not to be slipstreamed. There seemed to be a close fight behind between Fulvio, Ziu & Clive which allowed me to get further ahead & by the time Ziu headed for the pits I was 11s ahead. Continued to lap 8 before pitting, went ok with just fuel but messed up cancelling the pit limiter when leaving, thought it hadn't disengaged when it had, so cancelled it again which of course re-engaged it, so I was nearly at the first corner by the time I had sorted it out ::).

Had 20s over Ziu by now but that was halved when I braked too late at the end of the long straight & got stuck against the straw bales, had to reverse to get going again. Regained the lead when Clive pitted & was set for a careful drive to the finish, things got a little tense when I had a spin through the twisties along by the river, luckily ended up facing the right way & carried on only losing 3-4s :oops:. Took it very easy on the last lap & brought it home.

Congrats to Ziu & Fulvio  :clap: :clap: well done all finishers & welcome to Marco, hope you join us again :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Solitude - Nov 21
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 22, 2018, 12:39:21 PM +0000
Nice to actually finish a race on this track for a change. In the past I have normally binned it at the twisty section near the end of the lap. Didn't actually race anyone for most of the event but I did enjoy the Merc on this track. Not much more to add but it was quite exciting when I came bombing around a turn to see a black rectangle lying across the track which as I approached turned into the upturned car of Seniordan running down the track on his roof! Managed to just avoid his wreck but it was hard to judge which side to pass him on.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Solitude - Nov 21
Post by: Dominick on November 22, 2018, 01:32:13 PM +0000
I'm more than pleased to end 5th here. As always the aliens were well out of reach but being the first of the humans should merit a reward in itself  ;) I don't think -at least I don't remember- ever having raced this track before and it's a good thing I took the LM55 Merc out the night before the race to get my bearings. Tracks like this are all about getting into a nice groove or flow and I managed that after many many mishaps. On race night I intended to just stay in that flow without worrying about being first or last. And that's just what I did. I resisted the temptation to try and keep up with the Alpha Centaurians which would have ended in tears anyway and nobody came challenging me from behind so all I had to do was keep my head which worked for once.

All I wonder about now is why I've been driving the Gullwing until now. It's so much slower. Just because it's pretty? :blink:

Looking at the Championship one has to wonder whether Geoff isn't secretly German. Three in a row! Congratulieren, Herr von Geoffers.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Solitude - Nov 21
Post by: marco capacci on November 22, 2018, 02:40:03 PM +0000
Thank you for all for the nice evening and I hope to run here again with you


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Solitude - Nov 21
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 22, 2018, 02:42:48 PM +0000
Thank you for all for the nice evening and I hope to run here again with you
Nice to have you with us  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Solitude - Nov 21
Post by: Geoffers on November 22, 2018, 02:45:17 PM +0000

Looking at the Championship one has to wonder whether Geoff isn't secretly German. Three in a row! Congratulieren, Herr von Geoffers.


Yeh I noticed that I had won all three German races  :blink: I guarantee I won't win the finale at Le Mans, just cannot drive those big Massers, completely uncontrollable, I will be in a Fezza or Aston there I think.  :surrender:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Solitude - Nov 21
Post by: Erling G-P on November 22, 2018, 03:41:44 PM +0000
Having secured the Championship earlier, I had the luxury of not having to care about the result.  Thus could drive any car I liked, and decided I should run the beautifully modeled, great sounding, but agonizingly slow Gullwing at least once.  Was a nice drive and would like to use it in a more competitive role; maybe it's a good candidate for a single make/model? - there's lots of liveries available, so each driver could pick his own.

Goal was not to finish last, and with luck upstage a couple of faster cars.  Probably good I picked this car and not its big brother or the D-Type - in their respective cars, Ziu, Geoffers & Clive were each around 7 secs faster than me  :o   Granted, I didn't practice too much with them, but can't conceive of a way to gain that much time.  Apologies Clive; I robbed you of a supreme opportunity to truly humiliate me..  ;)

Got an ok start and kept my place - even slipped in front of Tony when he was held up at T1. He went past at the first straight section, only to go bothanizing a few corners later, so I got back in front of him. Expected him to pass me on the straight, but we approached the braking area and he held back.  He didn't appear faster through all those S-bends, and only got past early on L2.  Shortly after, I spotted something resembling a miniature 2001 Monolith drifting across track.  As Tony mentioned, it was the bottom of Dan's upturned AC.  This was interesting for me - he was decidedly quicker, but if prone to going off, maybe I could hope to compete with him yet ?

Gap to the car behind was 9 secs and holding over the following laps, but didn't know who the chaser was.   Was on a super lap - 1.7 secs ahead at the first split, when I caught a slow and seemingly crippled Tony in the twisties.  He waved me through, but I still went off, losing time and lost the lap - never imagined I could be unhappy about gaining a place..  ::)  Tony went for an early pit and I didn't see him again.  Rest of race lonely except for a brush with Roger as he exited the pits.

Grats to an unstoppable Geoffers and the rest of the podium.  Loved both car and track, and wouldn't mind seeing both again  :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Solitude - Nov 21
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 22, 2018, 03:47:37 PM +0000
I should run the beautifully modeled, great sounding, but agonizingly slow Gullwing at least once.  Was a nice drive and would like to use it in a more competitive role
Pleased to say it will feature in one of the Season 19 series  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Solitude - Nov 21
Post by: Erling G-P on November 22, 2018, 03:52:58 PM +0000
I should run the beautifully modeled, great sounding, but agonizingly slow Gullwing at least once.  Was a nice drive and would like to use it in a more competitive role
Pleased to say it will feature in one of the Season 19 series  ;)

 :jumpjoy:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Solitude - Nov 21
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 22, 2018, 03:53:59 PM +0000
We are still slightly adrift from our quarterly target, so if you haven't contributed yet, please don't forget to do so  :helpsmilie:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Solitude - Nov 21
Post by: EvilClive on November 22, 2018, 04:13:43 PM +0000
Grats to Geoffers Ziu and Fulvio on making it a clean sweep on the podium for the Silver Arrows. I tried my best, but was just a little too slow to upset their party  :-\.

There seems to be a pattern developing in my car choice...... Whenever I think I have selected the best car for a particular circuit and expect to racing against similar machinery, I seem to be on a grid where I stand out like the proverbial sore thumb!!!

Last night's race was a demonstration of my flawed thinking. In my head, I had somehow reasoned that the D-type was THE car for this track and I remembered that Erling had demonstrated how quickly it could be made to go. TBH I fully expected to see Erling in a D-type!!  ::)

So I found myself on a grid surrounded by Mercs and wondering how I had got it so wrong ???  :-\ I knew that I should be able to get to 10 laps on a tankful of fuel, and the plan was ( there is always a plan, but it does not always work lol ) to go easy on the tyres and just stop for a couple of gallons of fuel to get to the finish.
The problem was that although Geoffers cleared off into the distance, Ziu and Fulvio stayed tantalisingly within reach for many laps and I was sucked into a battle that did not help my tyre wear  :-\

Ziu stopped quite early and the Geoffers and Fulvio pitted, so I found myself in the lead at around lap 9. I guess that all the early slipstreaming had saved a little fuel and I was able to comfortably get to the start of lap 12 before I needed fuel. As I approached the pits I had a dilemma, the tyres had suffered more than I had anticipated, but they were not yet into the red zone.......change or not change???
A quick look at HUD decided that problem. I might just get out in 3rd if i did a quick, fuel only, stop. I was just trundling out of the pits when Fulvio swept past in 3rd spot... :wetfish: and it soon became clear that on my worn tyres I could not match his pace without risking a major off.
Of more immediate concern was Dominick, who was using the cloaking device fitted to his car to hide his position on HUD!!! On my display he was listed as 5th but DNF, so I was shocked to see a car in my mirrors as I left the pits!!! I had to run the D-type on a knjfe edge of grip  for a few lpas until I could no lomger see him behind and the last 2 laps I was able to concentrate on keeping an increasingly skittish Jag on the tarmac.
4th was far better than I expected when I saw the grid full of Mercs, but the bonus was completing a pitstop without any screw ups!!!! woohoo :jumpjoy:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Solitude - Nov 21
Post by: SpecialKS on November 22, 2018, 09:12:45 PM +0000
Result (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/Solitude64_21112018)

8)

Another mysterious event for me.  ???
According to the result it looks like I didn't start the race.
In fact from my side I had to leave the race in lap 6 or 7 after I crashed and destroyed the engine.
After lap one when in 9th place with Dan and Marco behind I was wondering why the chart showed 11th place for me
and during lap two both crashed into me during passing like they could not see me  ??? Strange.
Have to check the replay.

Took the 300 SL as I never finished a race here and especially choose the "Steel" version due to the far better sounds than the lighter "Alloy" version.
As far as I remember at least I was able to set a new pb.  :P


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Solitude - Nov 21
Post by: Dominick on November 22, 2018, 11:12:59 PM +0000
Yeh I noticed that I had won all three German races  :blink: I guarantee I won't win the finale at Le Mans, just cannot drive those big Massers, completely uncontrollable, I will be in a Fezza or Aston there I think.  :surrender:
OOooh. I was thinking 'Aren't the Mazzas out?' but your remark made me check and then I saw the last race is free for all.  Oooohhh, Mazza is available.  :drool: <having a moment>

We are still slightly adrift from our quarterly target, so if you haven't contributed yet, please don't forget to do so  :helpsmilie:
I hope you don't mind small contributions. I'd love to do more but with the medical issues, hospital and pharmacy bills and all it just can't be done at the mo  :-\

Of more immediate concern was Dominick, who was using the cloaking device fitted to his car to hide his position on HUD!!! On my display he was listed as 5th but DNF, so I was shocked to see a car in my mirrors as I left the pits!!! I had to run the D-type on a knjfe edge of grip  for a few lpas until I could no lomger see him behind and the last 2 laps I was able to concentrate on keeping an increasingly skittish Jag on the tarmac.
You must have telescopic around-the-bend mirrors. Whatever entity was in them, it wasn't me. I was miles behind, some 20 seconds. A shame really, if I had been on your tail with you having worn tyres, I'd definitely have gone for it.  :yes:

Another mysterious event for me.  ???
According to the result it looks like I didn't start the race.
I was just watching the server replay and had a look. Indeed, your car is just standing around on the starting grid, idling  :-[
By the way, thanks for those results you always post. I've always loved those.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Solitude - Nov 21
Post by: Erling G-P on November 22, 2018, 11:17:31 PM +0000
Result (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/Solitude64_21112018)

8)

Another mysterious event for me.  ???
According to the result it looks like I didn't start the race.
In fact from my side I had to leave the race in lap 6 or 7 after I crashed and destroyed the engine.
After lap one when in 9th place with Dan and Marco behind I was wondering why the chart showed 11th place for me
and during lap two both crashed into me during passing like they could not see me  ??? Strange.
Have to check the replay.

Took the 300 SL as I never finished a race here and especially choose the "Steel" version due to the far better sound than the lighter "Alloy" version.
As far as I remember at least I was able to set a new pb.  :P


It is really weird Kurt.  I saw the message that you left well into the race, while my replay shows you never leaving the start line, like Dom said about the server replay too.  Didn't see your stationary car on the start line in the race though.   - And thanks for those results from me too  :yes:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Solitude - Nov 21
Post by: seniordan on November 23, 2018, 01:27:24 PM +0000
I seem to remember that the problem of being in an invisible car can be solved bij entering the game twice. So join,leave and rejoin.
Worth a try Kurt  and sorry for smashing your invisible car.

As for my race. The AC wasn't any good on this track , at least not in my hands. My roll and long upside down slide in lap 1 or 2?,sorry for being in anybody's way, proved to be the least of my worries. Had to fight tons of understeer and the constant urge to quit, which I hate doing. Twenty years of simracing (when did we start GPL online?)and still not acquired real skill in setting up a car and very often too little time for thourough practise, have made it quite clear that i ll have to make some effort to be able to keep up with you guys. In the end of the race I decided to sit out another lap just before the start/finish line and bring the AC in after Geoffers had crossed the line. Saved me a splash and dash stop and another tedious lap.

Dom, would really love to join your little Maserati squad.

Cheers, Dan


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Solitude - Nov 21
Post by: EvilClive on November 23, 2018, 01:48:06 PM +0000
I did try the AC Ace offline Dan, and after a little fiddling with the setup, it was by far the easiest car to drive for me, the only problem was that it was lacking in outright speed and the best laptime was around 4:05. Which was why I selected the 55 D-Type for the race.

I will upload my Ace setup to the on-line repository for Solitude this evening if you want to try it Dan.

Edit   My AC Ace setup should be in the on-line directory for Solitude 64  "AC Ace 3" if anyone is fool enough to try it  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing - Solitude - Nov 21
Post by: seniordan on November 23, 2018, 09:32:20 PM +0000
Thanks Clive. I am certainly going to try your setup. What this track needs, especially the section with all the beautiful bends flowing like a river towards the start/finish line, is a nice throttle on/ throttle off controlability which makes the car dancing through this wonderful series of bends. Maybe not the ultimate solution time wise but it would absolutely maximise driving fun and that's the point isn't it?


Off to Solitude….


Dan