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Title: UKGTL Season 18 Abarth Coppa Mille - Zolder - Sep 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 16, 2017, 03:42:35 PM +0000
Championship Standings here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=573&theme=5)

Grid/server capacity: 22

RACE TWO

Practice/Car change: ~21:00 (5 mins)
Qualifying: 21:05 (10 mins)
Race: 21:15 (10 laps)

Track: Zolder (GTL Standard track)

Cars allowed


Class A
Abarth 1000 TCR Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_abarth1000tcr)
Pirin Fiat Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_fiat850sport)

Class B
Abarth 1000 TC Corsa Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_abarth1000tcCorsa)
Simca 1150 Abarth Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_abarth1150)
 
Car restrictions: Three drives per car, six drives per class. For details click HERE (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wY7XiCpxAm_rd0k-id9LqDrd0PGDRWfKXeX1nvfPpr0/edit?usp=sharing)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: simracing.org Wednesday
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 Abarth Coppa Mille - Zolder - Sep 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 04, 2018, 02:57:18 PM +0100
On me Hols  :boat:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 Abarth Coppa Mille - Zolder - Sep 19
Post by: Geoffers on September 04, 2018, 04:12:43 PM +0100
On me Hols  :boat:

Me too.  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 Abarth Coppa Mille - Zolder - Sep 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 04, 2018, 04:36:46 PM +0100
Shhh........... people will talk  :whistling:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 Abarth Coppa Mille - Zolder - Sep 19
Post by: Geoffers on September 04, 2018, 05:33:56 PM +0100
Shhh........... people will talk  :whistling:

I'm not ashamed!  :helpsmilie:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 Abarth Coppa Mille - Zolder - Sep 19
Post by: phspok on September 18, 2018, 11:53:13 AM +0100
I'm not on me hols, but I am up in Newcastle. Might get back in time, might not.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 Abarth Coppa Mille - Zolder - Sep 19
Post by: S.Cargo on September 18, 2018, 05:13:14 PM +0100
Hello Gents,

I might be able to join you (if this is OK with you), for 1 or both races, but I have a few questions  ???
1. what's a decent time around this track ? (I never really practised GTL nor Zolder except for the last few days, and something like 2'02 seems to be the best I can achieve)
2. I see that the series has sophisticated rules regarding car choice and I don't really get the class A & B part... Based on my very limited skills would it be possible for me to run both races with the same car ? (or is it one race for class A, the other one for class B ?)
3. If I need to use 2 cars, what would you recommend? (I can now handle the Fiat Pirin but struggle with the Abarth  :-[ )

The good point is that I was able to run a few laps on your practice server today, so my setup is OK (that's a starting point  ;)  )

Thanks in advance

Patrick


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 Abarth Coppa Mille - Zolder - Sep 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 18, 2018, 05:55:36 PM +0100
Hello Gents,

I might be able to join you (if this is OK with you), for 1 or both races, but I have a few questions  ???
1. what's a decent time around this track ? (I never really practised GTL nor Zolder except for the last few days, and something like 2'02 seems to be the best I can achieve)
2. I see that the series has sophisticated rules regarding car choice and I don't really get the class A & B part... Based on my very limited skills would it be possible for me to run both races with the same car ? (or is it one race for class A, the other one for class B ?)
3. If I need to use 2 cars, what would you recommend? (I can now handle the Fiat Pirin but struggle with the Abarth  :-[ )

The good point is that I was able to run a few laps on your practice server today, so my setup is OK (that's a starting point  ;)  )

Thanks in advance

Patrick
Hi Patrick and welcome to UKGTL.

Of course you may join any of our events. Your time seems pretty good although some here will always suprise you  :alien:

You can run the same car in both races, run different cars but same class or run different cars, different classes, entirely up to you. Some of our drivers have a limited choice at this part of the season due to their previous selections.

I hope that you enjoy your time racing with us and hopefully we will meet online soon.

Cheers

Tony

PS The next round of the Auto Tuner Cup at Silverstone National promises to be a good night for some close action racing


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 Abarth Coppa Mille - Zolder - Sep 19
Post by: S.Cargo on September 18, 2018, 07:03:32 PM +0100
Thanks a lot Tony  :)

If everything goes as planned I should attend tomorrow 8) and I look forward to it.
The only lap times that could surprise me would be... slower ones  ;) but I do not expect to witness anything like that soon  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 Abarth Coppa Mille - Zolder - Sep 19
Post by: Bob M. on September 18, 2018, 11:31:54 PM +0100
Hi SC
I'm a middle to back of the pack guy and my best time is in the 1000TCR @ 1:56 and 2:02 in the 1000TC Corsa.  These are my choices for the race.  I was always told the key to this track is making a straight line as possible out of the chicane on the fast back straight.  Catch as much grass and sand as possible without getting a cut warning.  Tony is absent so he can't yell at you!

See you at the track
Bob M.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 Abarth Coppa Mille - Zolder - Sep 19
Post by: SpecialKS on September 19, 2018, 06:44:28 AM +0100
Tried the slowest car only (Abarth Simca 1150) and I was able to improve to nearly 2:05.
Will use some other untested for race 2.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 Abarth Coppa Mille - Zolder - Sep 19
Post by: Ziu Bacubacu on September 19, 2018, 08:51:50 AM +0100
Tried the slowest car only (Abarth Simca 1150) and I was able to improve to nearly 2:05.
Will use some other untested for race 2.

...2:05  ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 Abarth Coppa Mille - Zolder - Sep 19
Post by: SpecialKS on September 19, 2018, 09:47:35 AM +0100
Tried the slowest car only (Abarth Simca 1150) and I was able to improve to nearly 2:05.
Will use some other untested for race 2.

...2:05  ::)

LOL

I'm only a human being  ;) :D

"I'm only human after all, don't put the blame on me"


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 Abarth Coppa Mille - Zolder - Sep 19
Post by: S.Cargo on September 19, 2018, 11:58:32 AM +0100
Thanks all for the replies and the tips  :)
I should probably try a bit harder with the Abarth's, but with it I spend to much time "gardening"  ;D
I'll probably stick with the Pirin Fiat for tonight.

See you !


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 Abarth Coppa Mille - Zolder - Sep 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 19, 2018, 01:22:46 PM +0100
Always worth a look if your new to online GTL racing...................https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=13639.msg245804#msg245804


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 Abarth Coppa Mille - Zolder - Sep 19
Post by: S.Cargo on September 19, 2018, 09:49:03 PM +0100
Thanks to all participants for a pleasant "return to simracing" evening.
I hope that the damage I made to the track surroundings will not be unrecoverable  ;D

At least I won the "highest number of spins" award tonight  :-[

Cheers

Patrick


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 Abarth Coppa Mille - Zolder - Sep 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 19, 2018, 11:10:46 PM +0100
Results and replay now posted


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 Abarth Coppa Mille - Zolder - Sep 19
Post by: Erling G-P on September 19, 2018, 11:26:16 PM +0100
Should have been en route to the Alps, but due to excessive workload of one of the other participants, that trip instead got changed to a 'Northern Germany' one, with departure postponed until tomorrow, so could do tonight's races after all. Issues with my car not quite solved yet, but appear of minor nature, so chancing it - please keep your fingers crossed I make it home on my own wheels and not a flatbed...  :)

For once got my tactical choices right.  Joined the server for race 1 in a TCR, finding Ziu in similar car, and a bunch of drivers in TCR Corsas, posting laptimes I should be able to beat with the same car, so decided to switch.  Looked good initially, with only Ziu being quicker, but soon some Pirins showed up, dropping me down the order. Only able to outqualify one of them; Kurt, but he slipped past through the first few corners. He was kind enough to spin at the end of the lap, handing me back 4th - thanks  ;D
Had a decent gap to the rest of the field, while late in the race, I almost caught Clive, recovering from a moment.  A little later, he was having a small tussle with Patrick, who spun off track, allowing me to slip past. Flogged the little Corsa as hard as I could, but knew it would be a tall order to stay ahead of him - until I saw him spin in my mirrors, at the start/finish.  Thus finished 3rd overall, and very chuffed with that - always fun to upstage a few faster cars  :)   Grats to Ziu on win & Clive for 2nd.

Race 2 fairly uneventful. Couldn't shake Bob in the early laps, but when he shortened the gap to less than 2 secs, I concentrated on getting a few quick(er) laps. Gap soon jumped to 4-5 secs, but Bob must have lost time somewhere - I didn't improve all that much  ;)  Rest of the race lonely, after Bob dropped from view.  Grats to him & Clive for completing the podium.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 Abarth Coppa Mille - Zolder - Sep 19
Post by: SpecialKS on September 20, 2018, 09:30:04 AM +0100
Race One was very frustrating as I had two early spins and after I climbed up to fourth place I missed the right gear twice during the last lap
(Thrustmaster shifter with 7 gears is sometimes a bit tricky with only 4 or 5 gears available but imo more fun than driving using the paddles) :(
At least some new pb's and some fun mid race.

Race Two was even more frustrating as I was unable to adapt from the Pirin Fiat to the Abarth Simca in which I practiced on Sunday for about 20 laps without major problems.

But it's all for my pleasure only.

Good to see a new face again. Welcome!

CU next week.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 Abarth Coppa Mille - Zolder - Sep 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 20, 2018, 12:32:21 PM +0100
If Patrick can fill out his driver profile with nationality details we can give him a little flag


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 Abarth Coppa Mille - Zolder - Sep 19
Post by: Ziu Bacubacu on September 20, 2018, 12:49:08 PM +0100
At least on race2 I got a little fun with Matt and Dominick, thanks guys


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 Abarth Coppa Mille - Zolder - Sep 19
Post by: SpecialKS on September 20, 2018, 06:25:25 PM +0100
Result_Race2 (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/Zolder_19092018_R2)

8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 Abarth Coppa Mille - Zolder - Sep 19
Post by: Bob M. on September 20, 2018, 07:26:05 PM +0100
Fun couple of races!!!   R1 I took the TC Corsa along with many others it seemed.  Had  close racing with Matt, Dom at times and Kurt.  We kindof took turns goofing up and going into the weeds or sand boxes.  Matt would have been ahead of me but he went off track and didn't have enough laps to pass me.  All three, Kurt, Dom and Matt were faster than me as usual.
Race 2 I took the TCR and got a good start and followed Erling but knew I had zero chance of overtaking him, dam aliens!!  Clive must have had a bad start because it took him quite a few laps to show up in my mirror.  Was able to keep him at a distant as we were running close to the same lap times.  Then on about lap 8 disaster struck me a I caught a wheel off on the big right sweeper that enters the back straight and into the sand I went. Zoom goes the Evil one by me.  2nd place gone so just drove it home for a very unusual 3rd.  My finishes would have been very different if the missing players would have been on track I'm sure. Take off all the time you need guys, LOL.....See you all at Silverstone in the other little cars, should be fun.

Bob M.



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 Abarth Coppa Mille - Zolder - Sep 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 20, 2018, 09:31:35 PM +0100
Result_Race2 (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/Zolder_19092018_R2)

8)
Thank you Kurt  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 Abarth Coppa Mille - Zolder - Sep 19
Post by: EvilClive on September 21, 2018, 08:59:39 AM +0100
Zero preparation as usual for me, but I knew that I had a couple of Pirin drives left and I remembered that I had a nice setup at Misano...so that would be a simple case of copying it across. Except, on race night there was no setup for the Pirin in my Misano folder????? I have no explanation for that  :-\

Mild panic as I tried to cobble together a working setup for the Pirin in Race 1, which seemed determined to swap ends on the exit of each corner whenever the power was applied. Eventually after much trial and error with diff and roll bars it was at least driveable. I tried to hang on to a very rapid Ziu in the early laps, but that ended in disaster when the handling caught me out. Patrick was showing that he will be a quick contender in future races and he took 2nd spot and a healthy gap.
His appetite for gardening came to my aid and whilst he was tending some delicate flowers at the chicane I was able to regain 2nd spot and hold it to the flag. As I got used to the car it became obvious that my gears were wrong as I did not need 5th gear and was effectively using a 4 speed gearbox  :blink:

Race 2.
 I could have tweaked the Pirin setup and tried again, but I thought that I would try one of the other Fiats.......I must like things to be difficult  ??? The whole of qualifying was spent trying to tame the little beast!! Once again I just could not get to grips with the handling...was it me??

As a result I did not set a decent time and started at the back of the grid, but the final qually lap had felt better and might have moved me up the grid, but time ran out. I committed a cardinal sin and made adjustments to the setup before going to the grid, but I sort of guessed that I had been tweaking in the right direction and took a chance. It worked, fortunately.
My faster car jumped a few of the class B cars before T1, but I had a big gap to close to get at the leader. Erling was the leader, so that was going to be a tough ask. Gradually picked off places until I was tailing Bob, I arrogantly thought that as I had caught him it should be relatively easy to complete the pass and steal 2nd spot......Bob had other ideas and matched my pace to maintain a 3 second gap!!  lol
We were faster or slower at different parts of the track and the gap see-sawed. I got within 1.5 secs by pushing hard but then lost it again with  clumsy braking.  Erling was gone by now and out of reach, I gradually hauled Bob in again and was thinking that maybe 3rd would be the best I could hope for, when he stirred up the gravel trap. I did not need a second invitation and swept through to 2nd place. There were a few moments when I almost lost control of the little buzz box, but I managed to bounce over kerbs and catch some hairy slides to cross the line in 2nd spot ( with 2 Cut Track warnings!!)

Now that the season is ending I am beginning to find the sweet spot with these cars.....the story of my life....too little and too late !! lol
CYA'll at Spa, which promises to be a bit different  ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 Abarth Coppa Mille - Zolder - Sep 19
Post by: SpecialKS on September 21, 2018, 09:32:10 AM +0100
Fun couple of races!!!   R1 I took the TC Corsa along with many others it seemed.  Had  close racing with Matt, Dom at times and Kurt.  We kindof took turns goofing up and going into the weeds or sand boxes.  Matt would have been ahead of me but he went off track and didn't have enough laps to pass me.  All three, Kurt, Dom and Matt were faster than me as usual.
Race 2 I took the TCR and got a good start and followed Erling but knew I had zero chance of overtaking him, dam aliens!!  Clive must have had a bad start because it took him quite a few laps to show up in my mirror.  Was able to keep him at a distant as we were running close to the same lap times.  Then on about lap 8 disaster struck me a I caught a wheel off on the big right sweeper that enters the back straight and into the sand I went. Zoom goes the Evil one by me.  2nd place gone so just drove it home for a very unusual 3rd.  My finishes would have been very different if the missing players would have been on track I'm sure. Take off all the time you need guys, LOL.....See you all at Silverstone in the other little cars, should be fun.

Bob M.

Forgot to mention: sorry Bob for the bump in the opening stages of race 1 !


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 18 Abarth Coppa Mille - Zolder - Sep 19
Post by: S.Cargo on September 21, 2018, 10:15:10 AM +0100
If Patrick can fill out his driver profile with nationality details we can give him a little flag

Done.
However, despite living in Switzerland I'm french, so if I could get a french flag I'd appreciate  ;) (unless it's automatic and based on location...)