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RACE ONE

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (10 mins)
Race: 20:30 (20 laps)

Track: Ingliston (Long) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg187122#post_ingliston)

Cars allowed: Mini Cooper 970S Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_mini_cooper_970_s) Note: Not including '69 Mini.
                       Hillman Imp Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_hillman_imp) Note: Car #'s 131 and 171 only
                       Sunbeam Imp Note: All cars
                       Ford Anglia Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_ford_anglia) Note: Car #20 only
                       Extra skins for Ford Anglia Download this (http://www.mediafire.com/file/1r68iywid767p73/Ford_Anglia.zip) Allow to overwrite existing files
            
                    
Car restrictions: One drive maximum per make/per night. You decide which race you enter which make in. For the purposes of this Championship the Hillman and the Sunbeam are considered as one make.

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit stops: Not required

Server: simracing.org.uk Monday
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: Note early race start.

Just to clear up any possible confusion...............

The Auto Tuner Cup is a three race per night event. On each night you must race one car from each make once only.

Example In Race 1 drive the Mini, Race 2 drive the Imp, Race 3 drive the Ford. It's up to you to decide which make you drive in which race.

Hi Tony,

Making a new install for season 2018.

Just a short question concerning the Anglia:

Over at NG there is a newer V1.0 of the Anglia (from 2015) - http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=42823 (http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=42823) -
with some fixes, new wheels and additional cars (for example John McDonald's 1ltr BRM engined car).

Did you have a special reason to use the older version 0.9=

Thanks for clarification.

Cheers.

Kurt

Hi Kurt, we only need one car from the Anglia set (1200 Engine) and it's the same in both revisions so no need to use the most up to date. That's why I have included some extra skins to bump up the Anglia quota.

This series was difficult to setup as I wanted the various makes of cars to be quite close in terms of overall performance. With the help of some very talented  :alien:'s I think it's as good as I could get it. Unfortunately the #50 Anglia was the only one in the carset that had compatable performance with the other makes selected.

Thanks for clarification, Tony  :thumbup1:

Belated HNY all :)  When I downloaded Ingliston, there were two folders in the zip, one with the track folder in it, the other with a single file, a DLL "system".  What's that for, and where does it go?     Should be an interesting series. Cheers

The download is a self extracting file. Don't examine it. Just follow the instructions e.g tell it where your GTL main folder lives then leave it to do it's stuff.

I downloaded the track and have just downloaded the cars. I can’t see Hillman Imp or Sunbeam # 171 Tony. Is it my files and are these the numbers were supposed to use?

Just as a follow up to Misnoimis's post above...

I see the #171 Imp in the Icons but the actual car displayed is #172.  ???

Is this one of the cars we can use?

Thanks in advance

TTFN
John.

Please explain "can't see" ?  In the folder or in game?

These are the exact same downloads as we used in the recent 1971 RAC BSCC. I have not messed with them.

It's an error by the modder designed to mess with your head. The #171 car is actually #172 in game and in showroom. And yes you should use it.

It succeeded, Thanks Tony.  ;D

Is this resolved now? Or was it just a question about the #171(172) car?

resolved  :thumbup1: yes a question about the #171(172) car?

Ok  :thumbup1:

Best time so far in race trim is a 0:54.6

IMPORTANT

One of the Ford Anglia skins (#3m) is being a bit shy on the server. Please do not select this car. Sorry.

Ok, I know I'm being a bit thick here but I'm confused.  ???

In the 1st post it says. . .

"Ford Anglia Download this Note: Car # 50, only"

So what are the extra skins for? and why the comment above "One of the Ford Anglia skins (#3m) is being a bit shy on the server. Please do not select this car. Sorry."

Can we choose other Anglia's other than car #50? If so which ones?

Thanks in advance

TTFN
John.

The Anglia carset contains cars with differing engines/power/weight. The #50 car is the best match to the selected Imp's and Mini's. Unfortunately the Anglia modder only made one car with the combo we need. So I added some extra Anglia's with the same characteristics to make the grid a bit more interesting.
If, by mistake, you select any other Anglia you will booted from the server with a car not found message.

Ah ok thanks, so basically anything which does 92mph and I'm good to go.

TTFN
John.

Hello all, been working on the Anglia setup some and am kindof stumped on what to adjust to get the car to turn good in mid corner and off at higher speeds..  Have the front roll bar all the way to min. and it still understeers badly and sounds like the front tires are being shreaded, maybe it's the nature of the car, fun little ride though and I'm able to run low 54's but feel it could be better maybe.  Also Tony,,,are you going to allow some nibbling of the corners as long as we keep one side of the car on the tarmac??  Should be a great series

See you all Monday
Bob M.

Bob, I'll send you my setup tomorrow, can't promise it will help, but it may do?
Yes nibble the corners, I will be. Just make sure in practice sessions to check for the cut police.
And if your doing low 54's I think I need your setup!

BTW it was due to a comment you made in one of your BSCC race reports that gave me the seed of an idea for this series so basically it's all your fault. :P

IMPORTANT

I have become aware of a small cock-up on my behalf regarding the Ford Anglia skin pack that I have provided.

It contains car #50 with a modified engine. This should replace the original car #50 contained within the main Ford Anglia car set.

To check that you have the right cars installed, cars #50, #251, #252 should have a stated speed of 92mph.

Additionally, as a test, I am allowing car #20 to take part in these races.

I will revise the race announcement to reflect this.

Sorry for these frequent messages, who would be in race Admin  :no:

20 says not present on server, and off line for me it's about a second slower.

Thanks Matt, I hadn't changed the server. I'll do that now.

Matt is right Anglia 20 not is enough fast

After a number of uninstalling my Anglia folder and reinstalling it unsuccessfully I think I've sorted out a "work around" it. I unzipped my Anglia Zip file in my Season 18 Cars file and copied the Anglia Folder and put in place of the Anglia Folder in My Season 18 Installation,  I can now access the cars # 50, 251 and 252.

I've been online and the selected new car #251/2 works OK so I think I now set to GO.  Need to check in next couple of days with someone else online with me!! ;D

Been online and there was a problem when Clive joined so I assume my "work around" Has caused the problem so will try again to follow Instructions.

Sorry Clive for inconvenience.

No probs here Bill. I think that it was my G25/Logitech software being dysfunctional. I just had to re-assign the controls and all was OK....other than my laptimes in the Mini!!

Now sorted out installation OK and driven all three makes of car online with Clive and Matt. Ready to race.

And what would they be ?  :whistling:

Have to agree Clive. I like Minis but this one is just terrible around here, huge amounts of understeer everywhere. :(

Anglia is not much better, but the Imp is superb. I could probably get more out of the Anglia, but just can't get enthusiastic about doing lots of practice, so what I've got will have to do.

Matt was witness to a PB of 55secs, other laps were not so good, by quite a margin!!!  :-\


Like Geoffers I just could not get around the understeer and as always with the minis trying to use power to "pull" the nose into the corner just feels instinctively wrong.  :-\ My brain to muscle communications refuse to press on the gas when my natural instinct is to lift  ??? Which of course just makes things worse  :(

Thanks for the openness  :)   In that spirit, feel I should post mine too; a 54.5, but that was a banzai lap, halfways out of control and not easily repeated..

Ohi Ohi.......

Oh no, you guys are making me look silly, moaning about the understeer. I'm doing low 53s in the Mini & Anglia & low 52s with the Imp! ::)

Silly ?  I would be happy if I could match your times..  ;)

It s a good news, Geoffers !  

OH Whoopidoo!!!  :-\ :wacko:

I just hope that my man flu subsides a little overnight, and I can find some time to search for the shortcut!!!

I managed a mid 53 in the mini, mid 54s in the Imp fairl easily and less often in the Anglebox

Well, while we are telling lap times. . .

Imp 53.1
Mini 53.7
Anglia 54.2

I'm hoping for mid pack at best with those.  ::)

TTFN
John

Under 52 seconds with Hillman on qualy lap mean to go on same seconds as Ford Escort 1300 GT or Alfa Junior GTA.  We will see if will be possible do it.  I m curious,  enough extrac some good rabbit.  I hope that my cylinder It has not remained empty since the last race, if it was so i hope that Matt can give to me some new rabbit. This time beat Geoffers will are very hard !  But already I knew this

Is that a rampant rabbit?

I am confident that Ziu will produce some high speed rabbits out of his cylinders

(http://www.campaignbrief.com/assets_c/2010/06/Screen%20shot%202010-06-29%20at%2011.15.19%20PM-thumb-300x131-29470.png)

Thanks so much Matt !!! It was what i was looking

Nothing under 55 secs for me I'm afraid, in any car, doesn't matter how many laps I do.  :-\

I hope to make tonight’s races.  I have had PC problems all week but hope to get round them for tonight. I think it’s the back-up battery, will get it fixed tomorrow.  Hardly any practice, will have to use the default set up with 20 laps of fuel. Best lap time about 56 seconds in the Anglia so will be at the back.  :wheelchair:

I don't think that I will be racing tonight guys. Man flu has knocked me sideways.

I cannot stop coughing for more than a minute, so attempting to drive cars in close company probably won't end well for anyone.

Have fun guys, I trust that I will be restored to health for next week.

Hope you recover soon Clive. Drink plenty of liquid e.g. Whisky

ok, reluctantly admit I'm giving up. Another disconnect tonight, I only seem to have this issue when running with UKGTL and strangely it's the most local server to where I live.

I just can't afford the practice to keep having only a few laps sorry guys enjoy the rest of the series.

 

Race 1 was fun although I was slow. Race 2 – A stupid big distraction leading to a stupid big accident. Race 3 - I was unable to get the imp to load on-line, I just got the message “Nothing” in the CAR DATA BOX. I think my racing evening just got worser and worser.  Grats to winners and podiums. :clap: Good series Tony.  :thumbup1:

Results and replay now posted.

I'm sorry John, I hope our contact didn't help your early retire.  :(

First race Anglia was confortable 5th after all the world passed me first lap.
Second race a gourgeos Sumbean gave me the win. ( While racing I was thinking if the car was too fast)  ???
Third race got 3rd in the Mini after a long battle with the wheel steering  :D

Anyone found that these cars eat only about half liter a lap?  :)

Next one, I hope.

Sorry mate , not going to let you get away that easy. Can you check something for me please? On the lobby screen, Middle bottom, there is a setting for Data Rate. What is yours set to?

First of all a get well soon to Clive - we missed you last night.  Also very much hope John can get his issues fixed - you would be missed in future races!!!  :o

Enjoyed the races last night.  Great track for these cars; especially the Mini & Imp were huge fun to thrash around here  :)

Race 1:
Surprised to be 3rd on grid with a Mini.  Got an ok start for a Mini, but a given I would lose places to RWD competitors. Got off easy with only one place lost, to Matt, but he was so fast I never saw him shoot past - all of a sudden I just had 3 cars ahead instead of 2  :blink:   Entire race was a long chase of Geoffers, but he was too fast and gradually opened a gap. Traffic bunched us up again towards the end, but had to settle for 4th.  Grats to the podium :clap:

Race 2:
Fully expected a qualy session, so thought it was a mistake when we went straight through 2 votes and on to the race.  Behind Geoffers again, with our car selections switched.  As everyone knows, he's one fast Mini driver, so he still had the advantage. The Anglia is the most nervous of the cars for me, and trying to keep up with Geoff had me on the ragged edge of losing control.  Grazed the barrier when Fulvio caught me in his Imp. Partially lost control, first slowing him, but then letting him past as I slid on to the grass - great job avoiding contact Fulvio  :thumbup1:     That lost me time, and later traffic cost me dearly, so any hopes of catching Geoffers were quashed.  Grats to Fulvio & Geoffers  :notworthy:

Race 3:
Now learned that the missing qual was intentional, and that grid position wasn't random, but practice lap times actually counted. Had already set a time, but didn't dare leave to have it reset, as I was afraid I might not be let back in.  Got the impression we agreed to a 5-min qual session and figured problem solved, only to have another double-voter and going straight to race. Only just managed to load race setup in time to join grid, now in a wholly undeserved pole position.   Figured I might as well make the most of it, not that I had been gifted it, so gave it my best when the flag dropped.  A tenacious Matt hung on over the early laps, despite my best efforts to shake him.  Eventually got a small gap though, but couldn't relax - fully expected Ziu & Geoffers to come storming through the field at any moment.  Thus very surprised to be catching them towards the end, but replay revealed I had missed a lot of midfield drama, which had slowed them considerably.  Grats to Matt & Fulvio  :thumbup2:

Great fun last night, slower cars always seem to produce good racing, easier to drive I guess so the gap between the fast & not so fast is less.

Decided to drive my slowest car, the Anglia first, but as it turned out I managed to go quite a bit faster with it & lapped quicker than I could in the Mini. Could not stay with Ziu & Matt in their Imps & had Erling not too far behind in his Mini for most of the race, so quite intense from start to finish.

Second race in the Mini, I got to start from pole, due to getting in a fast practice lap. Not intentional, & I made up for it by deliberately not doing so in race 3. Anyhow got the lead at the start & gradually eased away from Erling's Anglia. I expected Ziu to come through later in the race but it was Fulvio in his Imp who proved to be the fly in the ointment & after passing Erling he quickly caught & passed me & drove away to an easy win.

Third race did not go so well. As I said I deliberately didn't set a practice time, so started midfield, got away quite well & was around 4th going into the hairpin. Unfortunately my new G29 caught me out again as I trod on the clutch instead of the brake & promptly ploughed straight on into the barriers  ::). As I bounced back onto the track I collected a Mini, Ziu I think, so apologies if I wrecked your car. Chased back & regained a couple of places before spinning off, which started a sequence of gaining places then making a mistake & losing them again. Eventually ended up 5th which was much better than I deserved.

Congrats to all the winners & podium places.  :clap: :clap: :clap:

Bad luck to John, I'm sure the answer is there somewhere, & get well soon Clive.

Results (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/InglistonR1_15012018)

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Choose the Imp for the first race as it was the only one I practiced with. Funny race - especially the last few laps  :o
In the 2nd and 3rd race with cars in which I neither practiced nor had a suitable setup I was really content to see the
chattered flag.

Would also prefer a kind of a 5 min quali for the future races.

Get well soon, Clive! I hope you'll change your mind, John, and a solution of your problem can be found-

CU on track

It s clear that Hillman has the same speed of Escort 1300 GT, Alfa Junior GTA  with a good setup on tracks where one lap is sub 1 minutes and already we see that on BSCC, it s clear also that on Brands Hatch the lap is 1:52 - 1:51 and here Class C cars take they natural advantage.
I jocked with Matt but already i knew that 51 seconds was possible and i cannot hidding that Hillman is one of my prefered car.

Not is a surprise that we had the record laps during the race and not on qualy for me and Geoffers, because need several laps to have a good warmth on the tyre,  on this series qualy is short and it s difficult to have a perfect package

I not have any comment to race2  i need to understand better (i hope it happen) Anglia, the problem is on rear expecially setting the coast, anyway i did 52,8 on practice but onestly i dont know if i can repeat 52,6 of Geoffers

Race3 bad place but good test also if i drove 19 laps with a suspension breaked because a collision with Geoffers, it has been an race accident.......race are also this.
Anyway i m positive with Mini 970s because without the problem of my suspension i could get the laptime of Geoffers.
Geoffers is the Master of Mini (not only) and i m slow than Geoffers but i think that the layout of the track helped me.

Hope the next time to see another qualy system because yesterday it was a big confusion.

Grats to Fulvio and Erling

It missed to much Clive, i hope that you will are fine soon. For sure with Clive on the ring my Anglia could get more damage (i m jocking  :lol:)  

Overall good fun in these little cars on a grear track for them.
R1--I was my own worst enemy in this one.  Drove the Mini because I dont seem to adjust from RWD to the FWD cars.  Was plagued with muscle spasm because of my lower back/nerve problem.  Plus I think I was too aggressive and put myself in bad situations.
R2--Took the Anglia which I'm still not confident in.  Just can't seem to get a good setup for me or maybe it's me and just one of cars that I'll never be happy driving.  Finished OK and about were I expected.
R--3 Ahhh the most fun I have had in a long time.  Both Huggy and I were in the Imp's and we (or at least myself) had a great time.  This track has very few places that I could safely pass so dogged him for almost half of the race trying to get past him.  We had a few slight touches and some paint scrapes but nothing serious, just clean side by side and rear bumper nudges.  About half race we were joined by Ziu and Geoff who had trouble early,  we did our best to keep them behind us and must say gave them a hard time on this quirky little track.  I know they were both in injured cars, but still enjoyed it.  Finally got past Huggy and then just drove the track and watched my mirror for his car to show.
All in all finishes were my usual middle of the field and good fun.  My feelings on the race start would be a very short Qualify time maybe enough to do 4 or 5 laps.

Bob M.

I'm with Bob, race three's dice was great fun, the closest race I've had for a while. Loved the track, and the three car three race format is great, far better for me personally than one very long race. The Anglia does seem to lack a bit of pace compared to the other two, but is quite nice to drive; the contrast between the three makes it interesting!