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Password: see above (#post_event_password) (released 24hrs before the race)

Round 6 - Laguna Seca

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March 21st - Password entry (on day of race)

Practise: 19:30 (45 mins)
Qual: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30   40 minutes

Cars allowed:
Porsche 962 Short Tail

SKINPACK (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=14771.0). Top of driver's list on the opening post.

Track:  Laguna Seca


Live Timing: stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat (http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Weather: Clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: Not required

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=100
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=0
SESSION_TRANSFER=N/a

Damage: 70%

Password: see above (#post_event_password)

PLP App - Not used in this series. Cutting will be monitored on replay and penalties issued for excessive cutting.

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0)
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page


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It's a Mazda MX5 raceway- not Porsche 962!  :D
But.. May be i am is wrong man  :angel:
Just tryed some laps offline with different setup approach and in each of them i found myself mazohist  ;D

This track is quite a bit different from the previous rounds and I'm already worried about my gearbox  :-X

BTW, 692 has a maximum moment of force at 7000rpm, so you don't need to hit maximum rpmsin all cases

Yeah I need to look at my RPM more, is there an app that easily shows the RPM?

The Rev counter?  :D

 ::) Fair enough, but it doesn't show a number, does it?

I might be misunderstanding you then? What do you mean by an RPM app?
The rev counter has numbers on it that are enough to drive to if you want to achieve a set RPM for shifts?

Otherwise for setting gear ratios I just drive and then tweek until happy

Oh the actual rev counter in car...that's so 1980's  ;D. I have the cockpit cam which is the furthest forward, so don't think I can see it  :P.

practise server seemed set to just a practise sesh, then you had to reset it with a 3minute wait...for some reason. it wouldn't progress to qually. Maybe that's how you wanted it setup?

Nice combo, tricky though. :P

Not following you Mark, server should be on the usual 120 min practice, qual and a short race.

I am using a simple RPM meter , which in looks like overlay to AC circled rpm meter and have a simple digits in xxxxx format. No bars and indicators.
But it is a part of my global Baikal HUD app for fixed screen resolution. If you still wants it- i can  separate it to standalone app and give to you.
And there are many other styles in rpm meter exist in AC apps. Just look at RD or AC forum. Ex: http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/raceessentials-v1-4-9.41103/ 

Not sure what was happening earlier but it was definitely not progressing to next session and if I tried to use skip next session it reported a 3 minute wait. But server was fine later in night when I tried it for a few more laps  :)

The solitary red apex kerbs are nasty, can see people getting launched over them in the heat of battle  :o
Please tell me won’t need hards for this race  :(

I tried Race Essentials but the numbers were too small for me  :wheelchair:  ;D

Ok. I separate rpm numbers indication to this small app. Try it, check size and say ok or not ( i can adjust sizes you wants)  :)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/523xy3tbfpb2ukq/MiniRPMv0.1.rar?dl=0
PS. You can easy do it by yourself, just edit in py file:
ac.setSize(appWindow, 40, 16)
ac.setSize(rpmInd, 40, 16)
ac.setFontSize(rpmInd, 13)
to any you want  :) This numbers is a screen pixels.

Wow, popular combo! Look how many laps have been racked up in two days  :o incredible really  8)
Disappointed to already be 2 secs behind the lead guys despite feeling like I was really pushing :'(

Thanks Alexey, I'll try it as soon as possible :).

Server is with password, so no one of external players can join.

It shouldn't be passworded for the Porsche series :).

Sorry, my bad. Server restarted with no password.

Thanks Pete, I don't think anybody has ever joined after visiting the practice server, so I don't think we missed out :D.

Mark, when my this days headache will blow away ( i hope) I will joing to server and there will be three of us!  ;D
If not - i will not joing to race... Spring time frequently brings to me a fxxxg headache season  :'(

Argh, just too much understeer from the front end, and too much oversteer from the back end!

Ride height and shocks Spanner.
Can't be much more helpful yet as still experimenting, I've got at least 2 setups with the same lap time despite being really quite different.
That said the other trials have been half a second or more out so there are obviously some different sweet stops depending on your ability to adjust your driving style.

Only tip that should stay consistent is to soften the rebound on your rear shocks if you keep loosing the rear under braking :)

Dammit matteo!
You didn't even let me sit in virtual pole for 2 hours!  ;D

Anyone can PM me a setup for this mazocombo? This good guy will say, am i in race or not .  :D. I can' drive this ... more than 2 laps in all my setup trying  ;D

Your welcome to try mine Alexey but I’m 2 secs off the car ahead  :'(

1:19 pole time?!... That’s crushing for me  :surrender:

I bet on a mid/high 18 for the pole, and I guess it won't be mine ;)

If I can give you a suggestion, I guess that gearing here is really important. To make that lap I had to risk a lot when accelerating in second gear, but it's the only way to cut tons of tenth. You cannot exploit the torque at low revs on this track, so you have to pull the gears, but at the same time you must pay attention cause a sudden spin is right behind the corner ;) Your right foot must become your traction control, and on this track is not an easy work. My race pace is horrible at the moment.

Presume you mean make the car more ‘revvy’ with shorter gears? I already feel like I’m dicing with danger accelerating out of several corners with my quite short 2nd gear, but get what you mean. Just exiting the final corner quicker can gain several tenths before the sf line. You almost want 1sr out of it but it’s already easy to nose-plant the inside wall in a spin  :P

I thought my 1:20 was pretty cool until he knocked a full second off my time :D

Yeah Mark, you got it right. I will send to you my setup, so you can check gear ratios.  :)

Grazie Matteo  8)

Thanks Matteo for setup but its not helped me.. :-\  Untill the end of this combo let me hate it guys every time i join here and say that is the greatest deepest mazo i ever seen in AC. If this combo was the first i drived in AC than i hate AC and delete this game from the disk  :laugh:
Jeff dont keep in mind but this is the great mazo fucko deepest foolish down's combo i ever seen. Thanks  :P
I want to race it only for respect UKAC community  :)
 

I did a few laps yesterday and I find the default setup pretty good for this track. You only need to slightly adjust gearing.

Lol Alexey, I would recommend watching some real onboard footage to get your bearings. This is a great track / car combo, I could happily lap around it all day if I had time. That’s also why it’s really bugging me I’m still 2 secs off the front pace despite pounding round the most I have done all season (thanks to that weekend snow  ;D ) but...   :'(

Real is not game\sim. Another one reason to fight lover  vs hater ( not to sleep for me next night) Well, well  ;D
BTW agree with Felix- default set is more better to this track logic.

About setups: the default camber/castor always seems way to much. The tyre temps are usually
something like LF 65/72/78  RF 78/72/65
So, I reduce the camber and still the tyre temps hardly change. DO you just leave these settings at default
or do you change them.?

In AC we have the camber func.  According this we can see ideal camber data via apps. So, in 962C we have ideal camber ( grip maximum when in turn) in front tyres when its turned at full left side in setup screen. In rear in this car as i see in telemetry- we have slightly less camber in turn than ideal. So, its better in turn because brings less understeet in turns in. Its in max left position too. So, leave both to max left ( use default) . Any other thoughts guys?  :)
PS. Hate this combo  ;D

There is a good app called ‘camber extravaganza’ on RD, it gives you live camber readings that are colour coded. I took a little less camber off last night and improved by a few tenths.

Brilliant, I was always wondering if there was an app for that.

So, the default works, but reducing it a bit can help. I have reduced to the minimum, and I still get the
tyre inner to be a lot hotter than the outside of the tyre. If people leave it alone mostly, and don't change it
I will ignore it. Thanks

Is it still the same in A.C., front can differ 10 degrees between inner en outer en rears roughly 5?

Not wanting to teach granny to suck eggs or anything, but you're remembering the spool diff and the fact that you must steer using the throttle and brakes?
It helps I've had turbo-charged trackcars for nearly 15 years now, but balancing the car on boost is a tricky technique - doubly so in these buggers!

I'm not enjoying re-learning it at the moment now I have my car back for real, but technique is all the difference here.

Jeff, as i know, in AC this temperature ( inner\outer) differencies is not good way to check when car camber setuping... This functionality is far away from other true sims and reality. In Kunos, tyre pressure and "tyre "core" temperature" is main thing here.. And not overheat the tyre more than 100 -150 C. 

^This!! I've never been able to read the telemetry apps while driving so I'll give this app a go aswell.

PS; loving the combo. Kinda like a mad rollercoaster ride where the slightest mistake will send you into the gravel.  8)

It is an addictive combo for sure. I don’t think I’ve done this many practise laps for a race in a long time (years!) The odd thing with this track is I can be within tenths of my pb with 3 different setups  ??? Yet still can’t get near the 1:20  :'( must be lack of talent/technique  :boat:

Another one hate  ;D
+0.6 sec of my lap time is paddles and not small input lag from my TV. Due that,  i'll drive with 4 gears here for better stability and not to loose time in shifts ( tested and approved).  Be warned, Mark about my gears!  ;)
+0.5 sec is my old age and incoming marazm  ;D 
But +1 sec else is a result of full mazo combo. Absolutely not suited for stabil racing here. All of telemetry data and FFB forcesare  in protest here by all of possible ways  ;D
Extra car power, big turbo moments, short suspention  movement and absolutely blocked diff is making Big Mazo in me  ;D
Anyway i hope in good fight with good guys !  :)

Mazo = Masochism?

Yes. Sorry for my English.. :) All what i said in this topic is like a joke, guys. Bacause i did not see Jeffrey's laps on server  ;D Hope he will be in race  ;D
When i drive this combo i wants some trolling to Jeff   ;D

I haven't done a single lap yet  :P

Did a few tweaks to my qually setup and *just* made it into the 19's (offline). Should have the potential for a mid 19 now given it's warmer in the server and I made a mistake ;)

Just got to figure out how I want to play it in the race now - that's a tricky one here!


I also found that there are a good 2 or 3 ways of making the same speed here with totally different setups -easiest to drive is always the best choice in these instances.

Just tried the combo, feels horrible to me so I see no point joining this one, especially with the splitting headache.

Fernando is faster than me . Deep Mazo is over. Thanks guys for the race.   :)
Get well, Jeff!

I'm pretty satisfy for the race
Qualified 7th, finished 4th. Kept the gap with Thomas 5th, I tried to fight with FMG, but he was 2 or 3 tenths faster than me, and the cars overlapped slow me more.
Great race, great fun and great car here, thanks for the choice and congratz again to podium

Got a pleasing 7th place finish, which was about the best I could hope for behind the fast front group. :)  But it was a fairly dull solo hot lapping exercise once again  :'( I really am stuck in no mans land lately, not quick enough to race the hot shoes but also getting no challenges from behind.
Grid looked fab scuttling through this twisty roller coaster in the first few laps.  8)
Apology to fabri early on who caught me after he fell off. I was trying to encourage you to pass me rather than hold you up but it meant I was getting scruffy in the corners running wide and costing us both time until you took the hint and went past.

Love the combo just wish I had found the sweet spot to race faster.  :-\

Finally my first victory with AC on SROUK.  :o :o

I like a lot Laguna Seca, and I admit that this combo was quite difficult but very exciting at the same time.
Went with the Silverstone setup made by Gavino for the third race in row with some tweaks to gearing and rear wing. A setup good for all seasons I'd say  ;D

Despite FMG's macumba on my meds option before the race start, I was pretty sure to be able to finish the race with a constant pace, because I tried an entire race with meds on the server yesterday, suggesting to use that compound even to Alexey and Mark after my training, but they didn't trust me. ;D Longer stints and less trust in tyre app is my suggestion for the next ;)

My pole laptime was great but Felix was only 17 milliseconds slower, and that was the key for the victory. With my meds I created immediately a good gap during the first laps when Felix and Maikel were fighting each other with their cold hard compund. After some laps the gap was big enough to start some reasoning, saving a bit my tyres for the last laps. At half race circa I noticed that something had happen behind me because Maikel leaved the server and Felix dropped from 5 to 15 seconds behind me.

By that moment the road was open to the victory and I could have lost the race just for my fault, but luckily I stayed focused until the checkered flag.

Hope to be there for the next. See you :)

It was a really great win, congratulation, Matteo!
Let's Gavino's macumba trust continue  with you in ages!
 :)
What rig and ffb settings are you using to be so smooth and in preciseness ?
Can you pm me a replay of your fastest lap for memories?
 
  

Ha, Molte bene per vittoria Matteo, outstanding pace  :notworthy:
It was not a matter of trust in the medium tyres, it was more a matter of knowledge that my driving skills wouldn’t be as good as yours to keep them intact  :P I had tried long runs on the meds but I had yellow rears after 10 laps, so kudos to you for making them work.
I didn’t get time to test your setup sadly as I had technical issues before the race and lost all my practise time  ::) so I ended up with a compromised version of my own race setup that wasn’t as quick as the one I had formulated in all my practise  :wetfish:

Very sloppy race for me. Start was good and managed to keep up with a struggling Felix. Bout halfway through he made a little mistake which allowed me past. A lap later I passed a few lapped cars and saw the gap was already 3 seconds so I thought I could take if a little more easy. Of course right at that time I hit that fat sausage kerb on the inside of that fast lefthander and went wide. I hoped to be back out before the backmarkers but as soon as I hit the tarmac I spun around. Chased after fmg after that but my gearbox was taking a beating and now everytime I shifted I saw it getting redder and redder. So with about 10 minutes left it blew up and that was my race.  ;D

I set off ok, then on lap2? I was up the inside of someone going over the start line when we either made contact
or I drove over one of the marker posts, and somersaulted up into the air, landed on my nose, and went end over end
off the track, I think I may have landed on someone's roof. Gave up after that, not happy.

Having stuck a time in qually I decided it was safer not to stay for the race. Couldn't see me lasting that long before falling off.

Mark, it is your right and duty to protect your position!  :fencing:

My race was compromised on the second lap. I took the high kurb part in the fast right corner and my car "landed" hard, she lose stability and went against the left wall. Car quite damaged and about half a second slower than expected.

Congratulations Matteo, impressive!

That was me who was on your outside. By the looks of it your where victim of a stubborn corner marker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm9AXGeq52o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm9AXGeq52o)
Look here somewhere around the 3 min mark for your quite spectacular crash Matt. This movie is an unedited compilation of some of the action around me during the race. But still entertaining footage i guess.
Unfortunately I didn't get to use the provided setup from my teammate, but still had a decent race.

wow! those cones are "well ard"  :o

I stopped autosaving the replay of the race since I noticed that the file were so big and my SSD space was not enough. You have to ask to some other drivers if they saved it.

About my ffb I started to use this LUT file since I bought a new G29 on black friday week. Here is the guide:
http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/rasmusps-lut-guide-for-g27-29-and-dfgt.16799/ (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/rasmusps-lut-guide-for-g27-29-and-dfgt.16799/)

I use the "NoClipButStronger_Recommended" LUT

I experience some 'rattling' from my wheel when standing still, and now I read that there has been an update on that LUT. Will try in the next days how it feels with 50% FFB strength.
http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/rasmusps-lut-guide-for-g27-29-and-dfgt.16799/updates (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/rasmusps-lut-guide-for-g27-29-and-dfgt.16799/updates)

Remember to save the original files before modifying it, so if you don't like that configuration you'll be always be able to go back to the original ;)

But I see the wheel tethers worked well, although I thought that was a recent F1 thing ;)

That went better than I expected - On Saturday I had high expectations for this round, and then Matteo set his first blisteringly quick time  :o
After that and a few people picking up his setup my hopes dropped as suddenly the field around me got faster while I languished in the mid-20's, so I did some more work on my setup and ended up with a car that would happily run low 20's without much effort (on softs!) and indicated a mid 19.
As I was happy with that I tried to migrate the settings onto my race setup.
Nope, not gonna work.
It was slightly faster but stupidly hard to drive, in the end I decided I'd keep to my original race setup as it was consistent and then concentrate on qually - as it's so hard to pass here  ;)

Even that didn't go well as I couldn't keep it together for long enough to do even one lap that was worthy of my setup, so I started from 5th with only the hope that the guys in front would suffer issues to buoy my spirits!

I got a brilliant start and found myself sneaking past Fabri after running side-by-side from T1 through to nearly T3, then I actually found myself gaining on Maikel and Felix for a couple of laps until their cars warmed up and they slowly pulled away.

After Fabri's off I didn't have to worry too much about the cars behind past about the 10 minute mark, although they were always there somewhere in my mirrors.
Maikels off really woke me up as I suddenly had the worry of a faster car catching me from behind - lucky for me I guess that he killed his gearbox.
I also thought I might nab 2nd for a while, as Felix slowed drastically towards the end, I think I was pulling him in by over .5 of a second a lap in the last 5 minutes - fuel saving I'm guessing, as he was showing as using Hards so can't have had tyre dramas.

Anyway - 3rd is more than I deserved so I'll happily take it ;D
Congrats to Matteo for his stunning pace and also to Felix for 2nd.
Good work to all who finished, it was a hard one - roll on Spa!

Oh I would normally put up a fight but here I knew you front group were about 2 secs a lap faster and it's hard to overtake here without a big risk of both cars ending up in the gravel, so was safer to let you pass than pick a one sided fight  :angel:

Congrats to the podium. Stunning pace  8)

The quali was very close with PorcoRosso. At start he passed me on the inner line at the first corner.
I was always between 0.5 and 2 sec behind him. On the brakes in the last sector I was often able to get closer, but out of the corners he was to fast. Overall I was never that portion quicker to attack him. But it was very entertaining to race. The lapped cars made us a bit slower here and there but nothing serious.

Great race, thanks.

Looking forward to Spa  ;D

Thanks for the info, Matteo.  :)
I already have a replays of races. But here i needed a first person replay because it's containing  telemetry data ( true pedals inputs, suspentions movement and so on)  :)
About rig- i am too have LUT in G27, from first days, but my own, generated and edited. Due i am an electronics engineer, i have a hobby to mod this wheel and pedals ( hall sensors in pedals and so on)
I was just interested of you feelings when you driving LS and 962 )

Hey alex, I've a question for you: how can help the HALL sensor here, on pedals or, idk, steering wheel?
I know as well this tecnology, I've a HOTAS (vkb gladiator mk.I, I think you know as well, with a Thurstmaster throttle) system with the HALL sensors, thats changed my pilot-simlife forever, but I never thought that this tech could be implemented here.
Could help a lot?

Sure, Porco! Electrical contacts free - is a main idea here. No rotating resistors (pots), no electrical noice, no signal loses, no wear, no maintenance needs.  I use magnetoresistors in brake and gas, and hall sensor IC in clutch ( Dont keep in mind why- it's a simple my choice of parts which i had at home) Other thing- i use a standalone USB controller ( buyed from Borada ( VKB owner and friend of mine more than 10 years ago). In G27 pedals it was a fully hand-made in 1 day- simple and easyest way. Here is a some pictures of it:
You can see what happens ( mechanical wear) with pots in G27. Did you see damaged resistor( pot)  compound layer?  ;)
 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ka20o7jrup8d0bm/AACDizKldl0mpXfz9rtc4zf_a?dl=0
G27 wheel no needs to mod here due same ( optical) contact free know how is already used.
PS BTW i have an old and one of very first ( s\n 155) TM HOTAS Cougar flightsim joystick. First  in Russia ::) Aaand.. I ve done a hall sensors here a long time before G27 was buyed. 200 usd economy in hall IC  ;D  Remembering- it was a holy sweet Egle Dinamics   LockOnFlamming Clifs ( nowadays DCS) betatester time  ::)  

Interesting comments about Hall Sensors. I have been thinking about trying a Hall effect  angle sensor for throttle. I have G27 pedals and I currently use a LED/LDR (light dependent resistor) on my throttle and it works a treat. The led and LDR fit inside the G27 plastic plunger so not affected by ambient light. Maybe a thread on this could help some people get rid off the potentiometers as they are problematic after a while.

Indeed DCS is my main platform when I fly :D
Is cool as hell alexy! I've a peddals in plus I will try some experiments! Thanks A lot!