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Title: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Billy Nobrakes on January 03, 2018, 10:31:33 PM +0000 Inter League Race – 55 Mod at Zandvoort – 7 Januray
This is the official race post for the Inter League Race between GPL Racer & UKGPL. The event will take place on the original Papyrus track at Zandvoort, which staged the Dutch GP in 1955. Teams have already been organised & UKGPL drivers are allocated below. There will be two servers – check this post for an update about which server to join. IMPORTANT – both race servers will run at 36 fps. UKGPL drivers used to running 60fps will need to uncheck the 60fps option in GEM. Also please note this event will start 30 minutes earlier than usual UKGPL races. The races will run on intermediate settings. Each driver is allowed a maximum of 2 resets. (Special rule for the 55 mod to compensate for the brake fade.) In the event of a reset, irrespective of fault, a stop & go must be performed in the pit lane within 2 laps. Stops may be carried out in the pit lane, it does not have to be in your own pit stall. If you require a reset on the last lap you should complete the lap as normal & 15 seconds is added to your time. UKGPL Teams; GRID A FMG - Connaught, Jethro - Ferrari 625, Doni - Ferarri 555, Jeep - Maserati, Phil - Lancia, Billy - Mercedes. GRID B Tristan - Ferrari 625, Evil - Connaught, AnGex - Maserati, Miner2049er - Lancia, Fran – Mercedes, Sean Logan - Ferrari 555. Points Scoring (per grid): For positions 1-19: ------------------------------- 30 - 25 - 21 - 18 - 16 - 14 - 13 - 12 - 11 - 10 - 9 - 8 - 7 - 6 - 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 1 Extra Points: ------------- 3 Extra Points for each driver who can finish the race, provided you do not finish more than one lap down. You have 2 resets – they are worth using to score team points. The results of both grids will be combined to produce the overall winners (points from Grid A + Grid B). If we have an uneven number of drivers from each team the numbers will be evened up after the race. E.g. if we had 10 UKGPL and 9 GPLRACER drivers the last placed UKGPL'er won't count. Race List = iGOR Server = TBA IP = see iGOR Race date = Sunday 07-01-2018 Time = 20:30 UK time / GMT. 30 minutes Qualification Track = Zandvoort – Papyrus original. Race length = 26 Laps Variant = 1955 Race will run at 36 FPS Damage Model = Intermediate UPDATE - Grid A - will run on UKGPL4. Grid B will run on the GPL Racer Server. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: DLogan on January 04, 2018, 02:59:17 AM +0000 ...Sean Logan - Ferrari 555... All complaints about my ineptitude can go to this "Sean" character. :D Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: francesco on January 04, 2018, 07:59:05 AM +0000 2 reset but with S&G in the box or not?
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: FullMetalGasket on January 04, 2018, 05:42:12 PM +0000 You missed the rule about not knocking the Gordini off the qualifying record spot! :P
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Billy Nobrakes on January 04, 2018, 08:42:36 PM +0000 Don't worry Tim, I have decided not to take the Gordini myself so your record is safe. ;)
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: FullMetalGasket on January 04, 2018, 09:49:20 PM +0000 No, I mean nothing is allowed to sully it's great name ;)
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: francesco on January 04, 2018, 10:31:14 PM +0000 Billy,is important to know
Quote 2 reset but with S&G in the box or not? Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Billy Nobrakes on January 05, 2018, 07:12:58 AM +0000 Fran, stop & go should be taken in the pit lane, not necessarily in your own pit box. Just noticed I missed out the reset rules - now updated above.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: bagrupp on January 05, 2018, 09:25:18 AM +0000 30 Min of Qualy starting at 20:30 UK, 21:30 German time ?
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Clive Loynes on January 05, 2018, 09:51:50 AM +0000 No, I mean nothing is allowed to sully it's great name ;) LOL Well I'm not going to trouble it! Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Billy Nobrakes on January 06, 2018, 11:17:47 AM +0000 30 Min of Qualy starting at 20:30 UK, 21:30 German time ? CorrectTitle: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Billy Nobrakes on January 06, 2018, 11:20:24 AM +0000 Update.
GRID A drivers should join the UKGPL4 server Grid B drivers shoudl join the GPL Racer Server. Servers should open no later than 20.30 GMT / 21.30 European time with 30 minutes qualification. PLEASE DO NOT FORGET TO TO UNCHECK THE 60FPS BOX in GEM - BOTH SERVERS WILL RUN 36FPS. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Phil Thornton on January 06, 2018, 12:17:57 PM +0000 Practice server for Grid A is up on IGOR. Please try out your connection as we haven't used 36FPS for some time, I want to be sure I've set everything up OK.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Gareth on January 06, 2018, 06:32:49 PM +0000 No chatting during practice. GPLracer don't like it! LMAO ;D
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Clive Loynes on January 07, 2018, 01:00:56 PM +0000 No chatting during practice. GPLracer don't like it! LMAO ;D T'was ever thus: https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/online Or has UKGPL gone lax in this aspect? I think that any decent racing league will operate this rule. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: dave curtis on January 07, 2018, 03:36:24 PM +0000 T'was ever thus: https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/online Or has UKGPL gone lax in this aspect? I think that any decent racing league will operate this rule. I read that as applying to qualification/race sessions of UKGPL league races, not necessarily non-event practice sessions. But maybe there are better times/methods of having a full-blown conversation anyway? However, I guess respect the others on the server where possible. And that should not be a 1-way thing either. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Clive Loynes on January 07, 2018, 04:44:36 PM +0000 T'was ever thus: https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/online Or has UKGPL gone lax in this aspect? I think that any decent racing league will operate this rule. I read that as applying to qualification/race sessions of UKGPL league races, not necessarily non-event practice sessions. Agreed Dave. Perhaps some confusion somewhere because GPL Practice is actually Qualifying? Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Robert Fleurke on January 07, 2018, 04:47:42 PM +0000 Well said Dave. However to me you can chat in non-official quali/race sessions. Also ppl can turn off their in-car chat while driving (I do). But for some, logging in/out and chatting will cause hick-ups or stuttering, and there might come in some frustration. Not sure if it's a graphics card issue, or rasterizer.
I've raced in both UKGPL and GPLRACER and both are great leagues with good ppl. ;) Good luck to all tonight and have fun! :) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: FullMetalGasket on January 07, 2018, 05:49:51 PM +0000 I've finally taken the Connaught out - it feels like a rocket ship compared to the T16 ;D
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: DLogan on January 07, 2018, 09:24:32 PM +0000 Sorry to all for
No chance for practice last few days, missed that race was starting earlier so no chance to even get set-up work done. Every lap was "ok, brake even earlier for T1 this time" and still end up in the kitty litter, so got frustrated and quit before mucking with the leaders lapping me. And I had a few encounters (Fran, maybe?) in that short frame. Don't think I was terribly guilty (maybe a bit aggressive) in either, but sorry anyways. See ya in cars with actual freaking brakes sometime. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: EvilClive on January 07, 2018, 09:50:55 PM +0000 I will apologise for my PC as it refuses to admit that either it, or Win 10, is guilty.
Running 4th and quite happy....a few graphic stutters and.......................SCREEN FREEZE and complete computer lock!!!!!! Sorry guys, was hoping to bring home a few points for the team :-\ Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: francesco on January 07, 2018, 10:03:29 PM +0000 Quote And I had a few encounters (Fran, maybe?) in that short frame. Yes ,you was my biggest problem in this race.After this i have had smoke from engine and one freeze in curve luckely without big consequence.Anyway i was able to finish.Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Phil Thornton on January 07, 2018, 10:10:33 PM +0000 Results for Grid A uploaded to this thread. Grats to all finishers.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: StefanRoess on January 07, 2018, 10:14:43 PM +0000 GRID B - SERVER REPLAY
http://gplracer.eu/replays/fun/UKGPL_GRID-B_GPLRACER__.2018.01.07.22.52.7z GRID B - RESULTS Code: Track: Zandvort Sun Jan 07 22:52:32 2018 Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Phil Thornton on January 07, 2018, 10:16:41 PM +0000 I had quite a bad framerate during that race. No idea why, the PC has been rock solid on 60fps? Anyway I was driving well as Doni's wing man when I had a silly lapse in concentration and spun off loosing two places to GPL Racer. Sorry guys, hope it didn't loose us the race ::)
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Phil Thornton on January 07, 2018, 10:24:16 PM +0000 GRID B - SERVER REPLAY Hi Stefanhttp://gplracer.eu/replays/fun/UKGPL_GRID-B_GPLRACER__.2018.01.07.22.52.7z Thank you. Grid A results are posted above. The exports and server replay are here (ftp://ftp.ukgpl9.co.uk:32122/Season32/Fun%20Races/). Thanks for the race. Regards Phil Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: EvilClive on January 08, 2018, 08:58:52 AM +0000 I had quite a bad framerate during that race. No idea why, the PC has been rock solid on 60fps? Anyway I was driving well as Doni's wing man when I had a silly lapse in concentration and spun off loosing two places to GPL Racer. Sorry guys, hope it didn't loose us the race ::) Thanks for organising the race and posting the results etc Bill, Phil and Stefan, despite my PC/Windows 10 issues I really enjoyed this challenge and I hope that we can do more of them. :thumbup2: Interesting that you noticed frame rate issues Phil, because my new PC which is rock solid on 60 fps (even with a full grid of GT's or CAn Ams) was dipping into the 20's whenever I pulled myself close to the leading trio. I found that sitting about a second or so back improved things, but still did not give me a steady 36fps??? Very strange, as I would have thought that at 36fps the frame rate would be absolutely stable. I was actually thinking that it was my rig and that something was working in the background to interrupt my graphics and that was what caused the eventual crash. But now that I hear others were having frame rate issues, I have to look at what actually caused the freeze at 21:22.52secs........yes I spent some time looking at the logs to see what the heck was going on after I re booted. Did not find any obvious culprits, just confirmation that the PC shutdown unexpectedly, thanks Win 10 for telling me something that I had already worked out for myself :-\ Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: StefanRoess on January 08, 2018, 10:10:59 AM +0000 @Evil: A pity that you had a freeze. :-[
I was hoping for some fighting with you after you had a spin. After your freeze it was a very lonely race. No chance to catch up with the guys on top. Then I just tried to drive it home without loosing concentration. @Phil: Thx for the replay link and for hosting! @Billy: Thx for organizing! I am looking forward to the results. I was great to race with you all after a long break. I hope we will not wait another 6-7 years to repeat this league vs. league race. :D And thx to Robert for your post. Very well said. ;) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Clive Loynes on January 08, 2018, 11:20:56 AM +0000 @Evil: A pity that you had a freeze. :-[ I was hoping for some fighting with you after you had a spin. After your freeze it was a very lonely race. No chance to catch up with the guys on top. Then I just tried to drive it home without loosing concentration. I was great to race with you all after a long break. I hope we will not wait another 6-7 years to repeat this league vs. league race. :D If we wait another 6 years Evil may just about have Windows10 sorted! ::) Sorry to hear that you are still having issues me old mate. My system is living on borrowed time and I dare not change anything in GEM in case it all falls over again. Last night was Simon's first race without sound card issues too. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: bagrupp on January 08, 2018, 11:50:27 AM +0000 Many thx to the organizers on both sides for that nice event.
I was leading A Grid when i touched the grass end of tunnel ost and jumped over the right dune, flipped several times and came to a hald middle of panorama bucht. I was recovering from 10th to 5th, then i would have needed some more laps to figth john and roman Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Jeep on January 08, 2018, 12:42:15 PM +0000 Really enjoyed myself at this one.
Was disappointed to find myself in the Yellow Mazza as everyone knows the brakes on that one are a lot worse then the red one. ;D Qualified in 4th behind Paul S, FMG and Bastian, Got a good start maintained position and as the race unfolded both Tim and Paul were caught out by the brakes at Tarzanbocht and Bastian was through until he put a wheel on the grass and attempted to launch the Merc into low earth orbit Re Entry landed him right in the middle of Panoramabocht and I had to breath in to slip past on the inside. Although in quite exalted company I actually managed to keep the front 2 in sight and even reached the heady heights of 2nd at 1 point when Paul took another look at the shrubbery. But by around Lap 10 I was starting to struggle as they moved it all up a gear. Meanwhile Roman was closing fast from behind and we had a great battle for 6 or 7 laps, with him passing me into Tarzan and me returning the favour a few laps later. But by lap 20 he was back through and made the pass stick. There was no doubt I was the slowest of the font runners by this stage and I did try to stay with him but he was about 3s ahead by the flag. Meanwhile I was watching the gap back to a hard charging Bastian and knew that even a small off would put me deep in the mire. Fortunately I managed to keep him about 5s behind at the flag. Thanks all for organising. It was great. :thumbup1: TTFN John. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: bagrupp on January 08, 2018, 01:46:42 PM +0000 ... and Bastian was through until he put a wheel on the grass and attempted to launch the Merc into low earth orbit Re Entry landed him right in the middle of Panoramabocht Nice Compare ;D ;D ;D :laugh: :P Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: GregT on January 08, 2018, 04:44:23 PM +0000 Phil and Clive, I had the same problem. I joined in the last seconds and forgot to run an extra program I use to get my GPU into 3d mode. GPL 36fps is such a small load on most GPUs now that they can often stay in desktop (2D) mode. With my AMD Radeon GPU, I use an extra program called ClockBlocker. With Nvidia GPUs I think you need to make sure that "prefer maximum performance" is set in the Nvidia software.
I noticed lately that Furmark, a good GPU stress test program, will get my GTX into 3D mode without actually running the stress test. Just having the program open gets my GTX 1050ti into 3D mode. I just checked. Furmark doesn't get my Radeon to go into 3D mode unless I actually run the stress test. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Cookie on January 08, 2018, 07:54:49 PM +0000 Greg is right,
- another idea is to not set "disable intel speed step" in GEM+ , I tested with i5 and it gets hot running allways full throttle! Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Fabian on January 08, 2018, 08:01:21 PM +0000 Thanks for organizing.
Grats podium & arrivers. Good event. :) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Pedro vd Berg on January 08, 2018, 09:04:36 PM +0000 Super event!!!!!
Long time not been here (shame on me) Super event!! Thanks all involved, hope we can do this more often. With the (slower) Ferrari 625 My UK-Competter was Jethro. 8 laps before the finish I see him being (easely) lapped by his fellow UK drivers I hunted. I thought he would let me by on the straight, but he ignored the blue flags. (hé, it's compettition ;) ) In the breaking zone I lost the rear and bounce into him, losing 2 or 3 places :( sorry for that! Never the less, It was great Fun! Big driver field, competitive committed drivers and horky 55's ;) Thanks admins! And thanks for making me smile reading some comment's! Cu next time. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: uli on January 08, 2018, 10:13:30 PM +0000 Great event!
after all, 25 drivers from 10 nations at the start! THX to our admins Billy, Stefan and all others who made it possible. My races was great After a new pB, surprisingly pole with the Connaught and a bad start I had a close fight with Charles and Tristan for more then 22 laps … That hotlaping exhausted me and a fault in the Tarzan was the end of my victory hopes. Against Tristan there was no realistic chance anyway. Charles made a mistake in the Scheivlag and gave me P2 back. BIG FUN - the Connaught went very well on this track. TOTAL RESULT after race time maybe interessant: Pos Driver Team Nat Laps Race Time Diff 1 Tristan Bot Ferrari FRA 26 43m51.582s 2 Uli55 Hofmann Conaught GER 26 43m57.839s 06.257s 3 Paul Skingley (Grid A) Lancia GBR 26 43m58.694s 00.855s 4 Tim (Grid A) Conaught GBR 26 44m00.971s 02.223s 5 Charles Young Lancia BRA 26 44m06.484s 05.513s 6 Roman55 Zherebtsov (Grid A) Ferrari IRE 26 44m12.320s 05.836s 7 Jeep (Grid A) Maserati GBR 26 44m15.411s 03.091s 8 Bastian Grupp (Grid A) Mercedes GER 26 44m20.346s 04.935s 9 Clive Loynes (Grid A) Vanwall GBR 26 44m31.744s 11.398s 10 Stefan Roess55 Ferrari GER 26 44m33.482s 01.738s 11 Andreas Gebhardt Maserati GER 26 44m42.764s 09.020s 12 Doni Yourth (Grid A) Ferrari CDN 26 44m50.048s 07.284s 13 Fabian Casula (Grid A) Conaught SUI 26 44m58.150s 08.102s 14 Greg Taber (Grid A) Conaught USA 26 45m03.984s 05.834s 15 simon loynes Mercedes GBR 26 45m04.504s 00.520s 16 Phil Thornton (Grid A) Lancia GBR 26 45m07.347s 02.843s 17 Mike James55 Lancia GBR 26 45m13.592s 06.245s 18 Pedro vd Berg (Grid A) Ferrari NED 26 45m19.524s 05.932s 19 anders ostlund 55 Maserati SWE 26 45m20.380s 00.856s 20 Billy Nobrakes (Grid A) Mercedes GBR 25 44m07.037s 1 lap(s) 21 fran55 Molteni Mercedes ITA 25 45m56.163s 1 lap(s) 22 Turkey Machine (Grid A) Ferrari GBR 23 42m35.827s 3 lap(s) 23 55evil Conaught GBR 9 15m20.563s 17 lap(s) 24 Dean Logan 55 Ferrari CAN 8 14m31.683s 18 lap(s) 25 J. JonnyO Vanwall BRA 1 1m56.431s 25 lap(s) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Billy Nobrakes on January 08, 2018, 10:41:43 PM +0000 Chaps,
I have done a quick tally of the results. Using the scoring system; GRID A - GPLRacer won 103 points to 88 points GRID B - GPLR Racer won by 90 points to 80 Equal number of drivers scoring on each grid, ignoring the late entries from UKGPL who did not register to participate. There were additional points for finishing within one lap of the leader, but GPL Racer scored even better there. I will need to check the Mechanical reports to confirm the Stop & Go rules were complied with, but I think we can safely declare GPL Racer the winner. Congratulations to Paul & Trsitan for winning the individual heats. Many thanks to all those who took part. Special thanks to Stefan for his considerable assisantance organising the whole event. We will try & do this again sometime. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Clive Loynes on January 08, 2018, 11:08:20 PM +0000 Many thanks to BillyNB and Stefan.
It was a great event. Perhaps with more warning the field could be bigger still? Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: miner2049er on January 08, 2018, 11:34:06 PM +0000 Really, really enjoyed this one. Qualified 8th of 12 and gained a few places with spins and then spent the first half of the race with 3 GPL Racers right on my gearbox. 2 made passes after some very close and clean racing and I gave a place away to Loynes Jr when I almost got a tank slapper.
Spent the rest of the race chasing him but the gap stayed pretty constant as did the gap behind to a recovering Anders. Pretty happy with the 7th place apart from the mistake that cost a place. Great fun and well worth the pain of organising it. The 55s do seem to present good racing throughout the grid. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Phil Thornton on January 09, 2018, 12:02:22 AM +0000 Many thanks to BillyNB and Stefan. Yes thanks gents, a great event. Hopefully we can run a few more of these, format seems to work well.Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: francesco on January 09, 2018, 07:31:40 AM +0000 Quote - another idea is to not set "disable intel speed step" in GEM+ , So is better to "untick" this option in GEM Axel?I tested with i5 and it gets hot running allways full throttle! Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: StefanRoess on January 09, 2018, 09:03:14 AM +0000 Then he, Anders Ostlund, stood in my way for the complete Lap. At Hugenholtzbocht the Scandinavian Troll drifted to the outside, so I went inside. But he came sideways and I shot him away. ;D Towards the End of the Race I was gaining to the fourth spot, but there were not enough laps left. :dots: So you think it was Anders fault and not yours? ??? A really strange point for view, but we had that already when you raced with GPLRACER. ::) If you wouldn`t have hit Anders at the beginning we three could have had a nice fight and you might even have finished in front of me. After you and Anders where gone and Evil had his freeze I had a very lonely and boring race. At the end I was not pushing at all anymore. I just drove it home to get the team points. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: MagicArsouille on January 09, 2018, 10:37:19 AM +0000 grid B....I take a perfect start from the 3rd place on the grid to take the lead at turn one....then it was a hot race under pressure to the finish....the Ferrari 625 is not bad , but not the best and I have to stay realy focus till the end to resist to the followers who was not sleeping ....
...happy to wind for UK team whith the 55 mod whith those irrealistics breaks !!.... thx all , ready for the next one ... waiting for final result of this event...;) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Cookie on January 09, 2018, 10:45:38 AM +0000 After all this good racing...
My 2pence: I have driven with all these GPLRACER drivers on 60fps servers! So I do not understand why we had to fall back to 36fps? I had tested it and had problems, so I did not join... Maybe the next time ;) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: StefanRoess on January 09, 2018, 12:09:02 PM +0000 My 2pence: I have driven with all these GPLRACER drivers on 60fps servers! So I do not understand why we had to fall back to 36fps? I had tested it and had problems, so I did not join... Maybe the next time ;) GPLRACER would also have done 60 FPS. In the end it was up to Billy to decide. We just had to decide for 60 or 36 FPS. Running the two server with different FPS settings might have led to confuisions in case we would have had to change drivers on the grids last minute. Strange, that you and others had FPS problems running on 36 FPS. I thought 60 FPS would more demanding on the system? How can that be? Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: StefanRoess on January 09, 2018, 12:10:17 PM +0000 So you think it was Anders fault and not yours? ??? A really strange point for view, but we had that already when you raced with GPLRACER. ::) If you wouldn`t have hit Anders at the beginning we three could have had a nice fight and you might even have finished in front of me. After you and Anders where gone and Evil had his freeze I had a very lonely and boring race. At the end I was not pushing at all anymore. I just drove it home to get the team points. Wat? Wer bist du denn? Ignore-Button ON! :ban: :-* :) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: bagrupp on January 09, 2018, 12:13:44 PM +0000 My 2pence: I have driven with all these GPLRACER drivers on 60fps servers! So I do not understand why we had to fall back to 36fps? I had tested it and had problems, so I did not join... Maybe the next time ;) GPLRACER would also have done 60 FPS. In the end it was up to Billy to decide. We just had to decide for 60 or 36 FPS. Running the two server with different FPS settings might have led to confuisions in case we would have had to change drivers on the grids last minute. Strange, that you and others had FPS problems running on 36 FPS. I thought 60 FPS would more demanding on the system? How can that be? As i already stated at GPLRACER i know this issue and was voted heavily for 60 FPS for the last season's start. We have not more disco / freezes here and the game runs faster. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Cookie on January 09, 2018, 12:33:29 PM +0000 IMO the problems with 36fps are described well by GregT Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Gareth on January 09, 2018, 12:35:04 PM +0000 So you think it was Anders fault and not yours? ??? A really strange point for view, but we had that already when you raced with GPLRACER. ::) If you wouldn`t have hit Anders at the beginning we three could have had a nice fight and you might even have finished in front of me. After you and Anders where gone and Evil had his freeze I had a very lonely and boring race. At the end I was not pushing at all anymore. I just drove it home to get the team points. Wat? Wer bist du denn? Ignore-Button ON! :ban: http://forum.gplracer.eu/archiv/topic_2012.html No bad language was by me. Abuse and shouting by them for leaving the pit at the start of qually! Then a fictitious report intimating bad language by me. Lies! Lets have the transcript! :ban: Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Cookie on January 09, 2018, 12:48:43 PM +0000 Please guys calm down,
every racer has the right to choose the league he is racing with, but he allways has to respect the rules. We are all humans and no AI's! So we can do mistakes... Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: StefanRoess on January 09, 2018, 02:16:02 PM +0000 So you think it was Anders fault and not yours? ??? A really strange point for view, but we had that already when you raced with GPLRACER. ::) If you wouldn`t have hit Anders at the beginning we three could have had a nice fight and you might even have finished in front of me. After you and Anders where gone and Evil had his freeze I had a very lonely and boring race. At the end I was not pushing at all anymore. I just drove it home to get the team points. Wat? Wer bist du denn? Ignore-Button ON! :ban: http://forum.gplracer.eu/archiv/topic_2012.html No bad language was by me. Abuse and shouting by them for leaving the pit at the start of qually! Then a fictitious report intimating bad language by me. Lies! Lets have the transcript! :ban: Hello Gareth Why do you dig out that old stuff now? That has nothing do do with my post regarding the crash at Zandy between Andreas (AnGex) and Anders Ostlund. I did not use any rude language towards Andreas Gebhardt (AnGex). I just wrote my point of view of the crash that he had in front of me with Anders. I didn`t know that is not permitted here. ;) I didn`t use any offensive words. "Troll" was written by Andreas Gebhardt not by me. Also "Wer bist du denn?" = Who are you, then? But here you go... I just had a re-read in the GPLRACER admin section on that REKO (= race commission) topic of the GPLRACER 69x cup race at Rouen on 28.07.2013 as I didn`t participate in that race. I just re-read the chat that has been noted down that was going on between you, Paul Skingley and Anders Ostlund before the race on 28.07.2013. The whole thing started with a GPLRACER admin writing in chat "No qualification before 30 min. Back to the pits NOW." In case a UKGPL admin (Coockie, Billy, Phil, whoever) would write that to me in GPL chat at a UKGPL race, I would not start an endless discussion with the admins, especially when I don`t know the rules of the new league, because I haven`t red them. I just would write "sorry" and leave the track and wait in the pits as I have obviously done something wrong, well at least not according to the leagues rules. But everyone is different. "NOW" might have sounded harsh to you, but do you really expect a long sentence like "dear driver would you please be so kind and leave the track...." or something like this? How would an UKGPL admin say? All the chat afterwards sadly led to rude words on both sides. In retrospective I think you all could have done better. But IIRC you never got banned, don`t you? We (and I guess also UKGPL) do not ban people so easily. Peace guys. I hope we can burry that old stuff finally now or whenever you are ready to do so AnGex and Gareth. Please guys calm down, every racer has the right to choose the league he is racing with, but he allways has to respect the rules. We are all humans and no AI's! So we can do mistakes... All fine with me. I never was excited or upset. I just posted my point of view on the crash that happened in front of me respecting the chat and forum rules here. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: EvilClive on January 09, 2018, 03:12:54 PM +0000 Phil and Clive, I had the same problem. I joined in the last seconds and forgot to run an extra program I use to get my GPU into 3d mode. GPL 36fps is such a small load on most GPUs now that they can often stay in desktop (2D) mode. With my AMD Radeon GPU, I use an extra program called ClockBlocker. With Nvidia GPUs I think you need to make sure that "prefer maximum performance" is set in the Nvidia software. I noticed lately that Furmark, a good GPU stress test program, will get my GTX into 3D mode without actually running the stress test. Just having the program open gets my GTX 1050ti into 3D mode. I just checked. Furmark doesn't get my Radeon to go into 3D mode unless I actually run the stress test. Thanks Greg. my PC freezes are definitely linked to GPL and how it works, as I do not get issues with other programmes. Even GTL, which is getting quite old, works fine but that can run up to 120fps and that probably keeps the GPU occupied. My Nvidia was set to max quality, so I have changed that to max performance and will maybe try that at Nurby this evening before going to Clockblocker..... ;) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Cookie on January 09, 2018, 03:54:00 PM +0000 Clive
can you try how it works with the "disable intel speed step" setting in GEM reversed! My intel i5 got very hot with this option checked, it is maybe not necessary for the modern intel CPU's wich have enough power without it! Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Clive Loynes on January 09, 2018, 04:05:14 PM +0000 Clive can you try how it works with the "disable intel speed step" setting in GEM reversed! My intel i5 got very hot with this option checked, it is maybe not necessary for the modern intel CPU's wich have enough power without it! So should my tired old pc have this checked? It isn't at the minute. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Cookie on January 09, 2018, 04:17:36 PM +0000 So should my tired old pc have this checked? It isn't at the minute. Yes! this is very important, you should try it! Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: GregT on January 09, 2018, 11:12:44 PM +0000 Clive, Clockblocker only works with AMD Radeon GPUs. Letting Furmark idle in the background may keep your Nvidia GPU at a higher voltage and frequencies it needs when running games. I have no idea if Furmark will do that with all Nvidia gpus but it does with my Nvidia GPU. "Prefer Maximum Performance" in the Nvidia software might get to run 36fps properly, if not Furmark might work for you.
I use HWiNFO64 to check what frequencies and voltages my cpus and gpus run. My Radeon runs at 300 MHz and 0.85 volts in 2D (desktop) mode. Games need it running at 1100 MHz and 1.2 volts, which is 3D mode. Those values vary with different GPUs. GPL 36fps is such a light load it doesn't realize it actually needs to be running in 3D mode. 60fps will get it to run in 3D mode. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Clive Loynes on January 10, 2018, 09:26:23 AM +0000 Crivens!
Don't know about you, Evil, but this lot is passing so high over my head that I can't even see it! Thanks Axel. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: EvilClive on January 10, 2018, 01:30:07 PM +0000 @ Clive I have reported these UFO's buzzing about, but the authorities tell me they are just weather balloons ??? ???
So, first @ Axel. Just to be clear....are you suggesting that I should have a tick in the "disable intel speed step" box? or that I should remove the tick? Currently I have the box "ticked" so that Speed Step IS disabled. @Greg. It was unusual to run 36fps on Sunday as all of our races in UKGPL are 60fps and that might have highlighted the problem. Having said that, I have also had freezes and discos in our own 60fps races. It is never at the beginning of a session, but usually after around 60minutes and the time element is not a constant. So whatever adjustments I make, the only way that I am going to know if I have cracked this problem is by joining races and surviving ( or not!). If a month passes and I have not experienced any freezes I can relax. I guess there will always be the random glitch within the Interweb that will throw me out, but that should be rare. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Cookie on January 10, 2018, 03:21:44 PM +0000 Clive, as you have allways the problems after a while, I think maybe your CPU gets too hot.
I think that your CPU is such strong that it does not allways needs to run in full speed. So you should try it and remove the tick and enable intel speed step. I did tests with an i5 with a full AI grid and it ran fine with speed step, it got very hot without. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Clive Loynes on January 10, 2018, 04:26:50 PM +0000 Hi Axel,
I have ticked the box and tried an outing at Spa67 at 60fps. Whilst I din't ever reach 60fps it was perhaps a tad better over the lap. The bit behind the pits only dropped to around 39fps, which I think is an improvement. You would be amazed by how many crashes I had whilst looking at the fps numbers! Also, could you please give me a link again to the files that you said would give me a quiet pits at Buenos Aires? The link is now dead and I seem to have lost the files. :( Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Cookie on January 10, 2018, 04:45:53 PM +0000 With an "old" intel CPU it should work better ;)
Here are the soundfiles that make every track quiet: https://www.sendspace.com/file/h14els Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: Clive Loynes on January 11, 2018, 03:37:24 PM +0000 Running 4th and quite happy...................... LOL Anders thought that you were experiencing handling problems with the Conaught but I've set him straight. ;-) Told him that when following you it was quite normal to be treated to views of both sides of your car in any given corner! T'was ever thus. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) - Zandvoort - Jan 7 Post by: miner2049er on January 11, 2018, 03:59:36 PM +0000 Told him that when following you it was quite normal to be treated to views of both sides of your car in any given corner! If in doubt, back end out. |