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Title: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: EvilClive on January 19, 2018, 01:21:03 PM +0000
The next race in the 1955 series takes us to Reims.
 Reims-Gueux was first established in 1926 on the public roads between the small French villages of Thillois and Gueux. The circuit had two very long straights between the towns, and teams strove to maximize straight-line speed of their cars; many slipstream battles ensued. Race organizers actually felled trees and demolished old houses in order to make the circuit even quicker. International racing came with the first official Formula One event occurring in 1950, the inaugural year of the Formula One world championship. The circuit layout was shortened and changed in 1952 to bypass the town.
There can be little doubt that this track will suit the cars with a high top speed and with only 2 real braking points, slipstreaming will be the name of the game.
Please try and remember that you will have to brake at least twice on each lap, and that with slipstream comes higher speeds and longer braking distances. Add into that calculation that the brake fade might occur BEFORE you have slowed your machine for the approaching corner.

Race List =  IGOR
Server = UKGPL_8
IP Address = see IGOR
Race date = 23-01-2018
GPL mod = 1955 mod
60fps patch used = 60fpsV2newmod
Track = Reims 67 (http://gpltd.bcsims.com/include/downloadtrack.php?&track=reims&track_link=/tracks/reims_gpl.zip)
Qualification = 20:45  UK time -> 45min
Race = race starts at ~21:30 UK time
Race length = ~50 min -> 20 laps
Damage Model = PRO
Replay = here (ftp://ftp.ukgpl9.co.uk:32122/Season32/Historics)

Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Driver lists and divisional rules can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=620&theme=6)

Only reported incidents will be moderated, there is no Red Zone.

Handicapping and chassis allocation.
This season the 1955's will be using a token system which allows drivers to purchase any chassis of their choice for a given number of tokens as published on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=620&theme=6). Drivers classed as Amateurs will be allocated an additional 10 tokens.  The token allocation will not be managed in SRou this season so (unlike the 67F1 Works and 67F1 Privateer divisions) the tokens available to each driver will not appear in the championship table (when the mouse pointer is hovered over the driver's total).  Rather, the available tokens will be published in the race announcement.  See below.

Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver   TokensStatus
Robert Fleurke   
5
Pro
EvilClive
14
Pro
Ronniepeterson
29
Pro
DLogan
12
Pro
FullMetalGasket
17
Pro
Doni Yourth
25
Pro
Clive Loynes
10
Pro
Samb
15
Pro
MagicArsouille
8
Pro
Turkey Machine
1
Pro
GregT
23
Pro
Carlos Cendejas
5
Pro
Cookie
9
Pro
Uli
5
Pro
Billy Nobrakes   
11
Am
maddog
15
Am
bagrupp
2
Am
Geoff65
10
Am
Jeep
10
Am
Gareth
10
Am
Rainier
11
Am
Phil Thornton
7
Am
dave curtis
10
Am
francesco   
10
Am
ReiverEcosse
10
Am
Syd Drake
10
Am
Will Tway
15
Am
miner2049er
5
Am



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 19, 2018, 10:20:39 PM +0000
Just updated the available tokens (I hadn't included the chassis used in Round 7).  Should be OK now, sorry for the confusion, please check you have enough tokens for the chassis you want to use.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: miner2049er on January 20, 2018, 08:16:10 PM +0000
The 69 cars are good fun here.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: Clive Loynes on January 20, 2018, 10:40:39 PM +0000
I think that the Championship Standings link is a bit wide of the mark.  By about eleven years.   ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: EvilClive on January 21, 2018, 09:25:38 AM +0000
I suspect that the standings are a little behind because I have not completed some of the moderating for earlier events. The plan was to catch up after the New Year, but a particularly persistent virus has chosen me as it's host since then and I have not done the work that I should have.

I hope to get the results/moderation updated very soon, so apologies to all but it will get done (hopefully this week).


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: FullMetalGasket on January 21, 2018, 09:39:33 AM +0000
lol, you may want to click the link Clive ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: Gareth on January 21, 2018, 11:25:58 AM +0000
i think the copy and paste bug has struck.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: Clive Loynes on January 21, 2018, 11:37:06 AM +0000
Yep, that must be the virus that he can't shake off!

The dreaded Copy & Paste Virus.  That must be what is giving the NHS such a hard time this winter.  ;-)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: EvilClive on January 21, 2018, 01:58:33 PM +0000
 :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

I thought that Microsoft had sorted all the Copy and Paste issues when they released Win 10!   ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: Clive Loynes on January 21, 2018, 02:08:05 PM +0000
:P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

I thought that Microsoft had sorted all the Copy and Paste issues when they released Win 10!   ::)

It's a PICNIC error.  Problem In Chair Not In Computer!   ;-)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: FullMetalGasket on January 21, 2018, 08:00:12 PM +0000
I may be late for this as I'm at Bedford doing a trackday.
If my brakes are no longer up to stopping the car ( in real life) I should be pretty well practised for the race ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: Clive Loynes on January 23, 2018, 09:15:27 AM +0000
So race day dawns.

No sign of a practice server for this race as yet.  :(  sniff!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: Cookie on January 23, 2018, 10:24:19 AM +0000
Yesterday my server was up...  ::)

I will host Reims 55 practice this afternoon



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: Clive Loynes on January 23, 2018, 01:20:12 PM +0000
Yesterday my server was up...  ::)

I will host Reims 55 practice this afternoon



Thank you.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: ReiverEcosse on January 23, 2018, 02:54:53 PM +0000
I'm well off the pace here.  Running a Lancia.  If you are too, what ratios are you running?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: Cookie on January 23, 2018, 03:23:30 PM +0000
Diff ratio 13/38 - 5th gear 3.90


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: ReiverEcosse on January 23, 2018, 03:47:45 PM +0000
Thanks Cookie!  I'll try those!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: Clive Loynes on January 23, 2018, 05:12:26 PM +0000
Damage Model   =    PRO ?   ???

Is that Evil's virus again?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: Cookie on January 23, 2018, 05:39:04 PM +0000
YES :devil:



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: ReiverEcosse on January 23, 2018, 10:32:16 PM +0000
Astonishingly hard racing at Reims that.

I had a frustrating practice, just couldn't seem to find a tow from anyone but the car felt very good and steady under me.  I got very lucky at the start threading my way through trouble which seemed to affect a lot of other people.

I had a fantastic scrap with Clive and (I think) Doni in the middle of the race, until they dropped me (I hung myself out to dry on the long straight and they were gone).  Then Doni's engine went bang in a big way and I passed him (I felt very sorry for you chief, you were driving a blinder).

The last stage was a scrap with Phil in which he was just plain better and faster, but I was able to hang on to him by my fingertips sweating all the way.  On the last lap he made a small error and I was able to get back into his tow.  The car felt really good under braking so I chose to hang on to him down the long straight, try and pass him under braking and try and outdrag him to the line.  It worked.  Just.  By. THE. Narrowest. Margin.

Delighted with 7th.  Thank you all for such a great race!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: EvilClive on January 23, 2018, 10:40:30 PM +0000
Another Screen Freeze!! This time whilst sitting on the grid
I hope that my car did not cause any probs, and that my freeze also removed me from the server immediately.

If I cannot find the root cause of this problem, GPL looks like a waste of time for me.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: Cookie on January 23, 2018, 10:57:07 PM +0000
I had some strange things happen:
- first my rig lost a screw in practice and I had no more throttle,
   so I had to fix it, lying on the floor like a real mechanic under the car ;D
- there was lots of warp all the time an I read in chat that someone had joined with 36fps!? I will no longer allow joining via IP! :2guns:
  Good was that the server stood this challenge without crash.

- racing was mixed fun as I had big problems with braking in tow...
 Sorry Bastian, but sometimes it is better to not use every chance to pass, as we were slower this way and Tris could catch us...  :P


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: bagrupp on January 23, 2018, 11:09:58 PM +0000
I had some strange things happen:
- first my rig lost a screw in practice and I had no more throttle,
   so I had to fix it, lying on the floor like a real mechanic under the car ;D
- there was lots of warp all the time an I read in chat that someone had joined with 36fps!? I will no longer allow joining via IP! :2guns:
  Good was that the server stood this challenge without crash.

- racing was mixed fun as I had big problems with braking in tow...
 Sorry Bastian, but sometimes it is better to not use every chance to pass, as we were slower this way and Tris could catch us...  :P

Or not hittin me twice in the hairpin, would have a better chance on my third place...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 23, 2018, 11:27:56 PM +0000
I've loaded the chassis the drivers used into the token calculator spreadsheet.  For the next race the available tokens will be as declared in the table below (the table will also appear in the next race announcement).  The calculated values are automated but selecting the cars is a manual process so please check your tokens to make sure I haven't made a silly error.  There was no token overspend for this round so no one is disqualified.

Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver   TokensStatus
Robert Fleurke   
5
Pro
EvilClive
9
Pro
Ronniepeterson
29
Pro
DLogan
7
Pro
FullMetalGasket
7
Pro
Doni Yourth
15
Pro
Clive Loynes
5
Pro
Samb
10
Pro
MagicArsouille
0
Pro
Turkey Machine
1
Pro
GregT
13
Pro
Carlos Cendejas
5
Pro
Cookie
1
Pro
Uli
10
Pro
Billy Nobrakes   
6
Am
maddog
15
Am
bagrupp
0
Am
Geoff65
10
Am
Jeep
10
Am
Gareth
10
Am
Rainier
1
Am
Phil Thornton
2
Am
dave curtis
8
Am
francesco   
0
Am
ReiverEcosse
5
Am
Syd Drake
10
Am
Will Tway
23
Am
miner2049er
0
Am


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 23, 2018, 11:35:52 PM +0000
The car felt really good under braking so I chose to hang on to him down the long straight, try and pass him under braking and try and outdrag him to the line.  It worked.  Just.  By. THE. Narrowest. Margin.
Yes it was close, 14 milliseconds. That's half a wheel at 158mph. Great racing and a deserved 7th place well done.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on January 24, 2018, 07:24:44 AM +0000
Absolute shocker for me. Struggled with car stability under braking & then ran into the corn field which is a cunningly disguised tar pit. 55s are not my favourite at the moment. Looks like Tim & Sam had the Black Night racing version of the Fangio / Moss train at the front. Well done guys.
Clive - I feel your frustration. The last Windows 10 update has generally improved my PC. I am wondering if something went astray when you set up GPL on your new system. Might be worth installing the whole game from scratch, segregate all the old files & see if that works. Quite a few people seem to be running w10 - so it is possible.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: Samb on January 24, 2018, 08:51:43 AM +0000
I had a great race. I knew the Lancia would be outclassed on the straights around here but I felt it's nimble handling through the fast sweepers and relatively decent brakes (for the mod!) might be able to compensate the mighty Merc's straight line grunt.

First half of the race, I had a grandstand seat enjoying Tim, Tris, Axel & Bastian vying for the lead. I was holding back in 5th, content to watch the action. That worked until I lost brakes at Muzon  :o, overshot and nearly lost the tow rejoining! Luckily with the guys battling hard up front I could catch up.

About half race distance, Tris had fallen back due to failing brakes at Muzon. Axel had overshot at Thillois and followed by Bastian getting a poor exit, I vaulted up to second place, but Tim in the SL Merc was almost 200 yards ahead  :-\. I had to drive very hard through the sweepers to try to close that gap. Any larger gap and the tow would have been lost.

Somehow I did manage to catch up, mostly under braking I suspect and that set the scene for me and Tim battling for the lead for the rest of the race. With his slipstream, it worked well enough staying with him, but ducking out of it proved tricky, as I lost all advantage of speed and had to duck back inside the slipstream! I could see I was far better on the brakes, but I just couldn't get close enough and didn't want to risk a lunge in case I made a mess of it and took us both out. Tim would have simply powered past on the next straight anyway.

Tried as I might to harry Tim into a mistake, this is Tim we're talking about, that was unlikely to happen  ;). I inherited the lead a couple of times after he ran wide at Bretelle Nord, but the rate at which he passed me on the back straight was somewhat dispiriting.

On the last lap I was in the lead, but when Tim grabbed my slipstream to slingshot past I was way too far back on the approach to Thillois. Did try to make it up nevertheless and did manage to get alongside, but Tim had the inside covered nicely and powered home into first place. Congrats Tim, very well played.

I hope you can get GPL sorted on your new PC Clive, it would be shame to see you go. As Bill suggests, it is worth a fresh install using the install guide http://gplworld.org/tl_files/srworld/upload_old/downloads/simracing/grand_prix_legends/guides/GPL_Easy_Installation_Guide_ENG_v1.6.1.pdf (http://gplworld.org/tl_files/srworld/upload_old/downloads/simracing/grand_prix_legends/guides/GPL_Easy_Installation_Guide_ENG_v1.6.1.pdf)?

I was thinking of a fresh install myself for my machine at the end of this season at it is running sluggishly these days, but I might stick with Windows 7 as a stop gap measure until I cough up enough coppers for a new PC. I believe Michael Turner was also having issues with his Windows 10 install, but his issues were more to do with his wheel being recognised than screen freezing.



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: Rainier on January 24, 2018, 09:04:04 AM +0000
I read in chat that someone had joined with 36fps!?


It was not me, but very often and particurlarly at the start I was less than 30 fps.

I thought I would not have brakes troubles on this kind of track but it was not the case at all !


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: miner2049er on January 24, 2018, 10:45:26 AM +0000
I was running OK early on but people were disappearing and re-appearing which is extremely off-putting when you don't know what brakes you have anyway.

I was quicker through the sweeps than those I was chasing but couldn't always see them so didn't know how close they were as they disappeared from Prib too.

I got squeezed a couple of times and don't know if it was bad driving or if people couldn't see me so I retired having had a couple of offs.

I didn't drop frames, just other people.

I also definitely joined with the 60fpsV2newmod.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: Cookie on January 24, 2018, 11:32:43 AM +0000
That's the curious thing, normally if you see all others disappearing and reappearing, it must be yourself.
BUT
Last night I saw permanently all cars disappearing and reappearing what couldn't be on my side, as I am sitting next to the server!



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: MagicArsouille on January 24, 2018, 11:57:42 AM +0000
That's the curious thing, normally if you see all others disappearing and reappearing, it must be yourself.
BUT
Last night I saw permanently all cars disappearing and reappearing what couldn't be on my side, as I am sitting next to the server!


....same for me whith some freez of 1 or 2s who cost me to visite out of track :/

....so it was a lonely race after loosing contact to the lead, exept in the last few laps where I can get the podium :)
 
Thx all and thx to the slip stream also for pole and FL  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: FullMetalGasket on January 24, 2018, 12:45:33 PM +0000
That's what I saw too Axel, quite a few other people said they saw the same thing.
That's why I said I thought it might be someone running 36FPS, I vaguely remember it doing something weird like this.

My race was awesome although exhausting - I'd been up since 03:45 that morning as I was at Bedford Autodrome for a trackday (2 and a half hours from home).
Given it was the first in over 2 years in the Nissan and I've played extensively with it, I was effectively having to re-learn to drive. Not helped by a combination of rain and the trail of oil someone left the entire way around the track!

I managed to get home and fed by 8 so jumped on the PC for some last minute practice in the SL.
This left me questioning the choice a bit as it was pretty poor through the sweeping corners, but the top end was so good I felt confident that as long as there weren't too many SL's I could probably steal a podium spot with ease ;D

At the start I was amazed by Tristian's qualifying time - I've no idea who he drafted but he got dragged round pretty fast :angel:
I couldn't find enough of a tow to compete with that, I was showing an indicated 2:21.0 but would always catch people at the wrong point to achieve it.

The start saw me heavily swamped and nearly ended in the cornfield when Bastian, for some reason, chose to make a dive into Courbe Annie Bousquet (T2) while I was trying navigate my truck through it on a normal line. Keeping myself on the black stuff cost another place or 2.
Why he did it I have no idea, it's far more sensible to stay behind an SL there so you can get close and draft them down the next straight - and get a free pass on all the other 'normal' cars in the process. We'd have been an easy 3rd and 4th by the end of the lap that way.

My biggest challenge at the start was getting past Sam and Bastian in their red machinery, as they did a good job of blocking the road while the 2 Mercs up ahead started to eek out a gap. With their mid corner speed I didn't want to risk loosing sight of them.
Once up with them it was easy to keep in touch - I'd loose ground in the corners and braking zones (The SL has pretty poor brakes! :D) but monster back up behind/infront on the 2 straights.

Towards the end of practice I had started experimenting to see where the latest I could brake, experience failure, and still slow enough for the final turn was.
I then purposely didn't use that braking point until I was in the lead and the other 2 Mercs were harrying my for position on the straight.
Axel took himself off before I could use it on him but it seemed to work a treat on Tristan when I finally did it, as he ended up using the escape road matching me which left me almost free of the remaining duo.

I actually thought I'd gained enough of a lead to pull away from Sam after Bastians poor exit, but sadly the Lancia was able to dance through the sweeping turns so fast he managed to just hang onto my draft enough to catch back up again under braking for the final turn (i was now using the latest possible point as a matter of course - I had no advantage in hiding it while trying to escape the pack!), I was having to brake at 350 meters, I seem to remember the Gordini could stop if you lift at 300 and brake around 250/200. So it's no surprise the D50 could make time there.
Sam then latched on and didn't challenge me for several laps - I'm fairly certain this was to aid us in pulling clear of the 3rd place car and and assorted others to at least guarantee a 2nd if he couldn't beat me to the line. There's no question he could have passed me in several spots, but of course it would be pointless against an SL here when on your own!

Around the 3 to go point Sam finally started trying hard to pass me and figure out where he had a chance, luckily (for me) this was in the first sector only. Although as mentioned I did make a small mistake that allowed him through for a mile or 2.
But I still had the ace in my sleeve - I'd noticed we were very slowly catching Greg's' SL and reckoned we'd be close enough for me to draft it by the last lap. Greg was my get out of jail free card - as if I left the final corner within 200 yards of Gregs car Sam would be unable to draft past me under acceleration. And Greg was indeed at the right distance on the last lap 8)

So, thank you Greg for the win!
Well done to Sam on a well fought and clean 2nd, and Tris on climbing back up to 3rd.
Also to everyone else who managed to keep out of the corn field.
Roll on the Nurburgring :o


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: EvilClive on January 24, 2018, 12:58:35 PM +0000
I am glad that others saw cars vanishing, I thought that it was another symptom of my problems. I was definitely running 60 fps which was showing as solid on my screen, about the only thing that is better on this new rig!!  :-\

I have just discovered that Virgin ( my ISP) were doing maintenance works in my area last night, so just maybe  ( grasping at straws here!) my freeze was related to low bandwidth??

When I installed GPL on this rig I did a fresh install, complete with a new GEM/IGOR as well. I then migrated over my track database and setups etc.
Given that there should not be any issues with this virgin GPL, I am assuming that there is something about Win 10 or the functioning of the new internals/processors that simply falls over itself when running GPL.

I am not sure if it is relevant to my problem, but when the screen freezes ( never a disco, always a freeze ) the picture locks instantly and the sound track sounds like a machine gun "dadadadadadadadadadadadadadaddaadadad". There is no way to switch programmes ( alt/tab), the mouse is inoperative and the only recourse is to switch the PC off at wall socket, before allowing a reboot from scratch.
These freezes always appear to happen after approx. 1 hour+ after starting GPL, so I don't think it is GPL itself that is the problem? If it happened very soon after starting GPL, then I could believe that GPL was the problem.

I have a recollection from many years ago when a lot of members were having issues with Screen Freezes and it transpired that these were related to sound card issues ( Soundblaster??)  Does anyone else remember that and what the solution was???

I am certainly no expert on computers as you all know, but this feels to me like either Win 10 is starting something in the background that conflicts with GPL. OR that the PC does not recognise GPL as a running programme ( because it applies such a small load on the processor?) and goes into sleep mode?.
Any ideas would be appreciated as this problem is making my participation in UKGPL more of a pain in the a** than an enjoyable game simulation, and frankly I am losing interest.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: maddog on January 24, 2018, 01:40:23 PM +0000
Unhappy news Clive.  :( You could check for similar problems/solutions at SRMZ, where there is a section for such things.  If nothing seems applicable, give a short, accurate description and hope for someone with an answer that works.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: bagrupp on January 25, 2018, 08:39:58 AM +0000
The start saw me heavily swamped and nearly ended in the cornfield when Bastian, for some reason, chose to make a dive into Courbe Annie Bousquet (T2) while I was trying navigate my truck through it on a normal line. Keeping myself on the black stuff cost another place or 2.
Why he did it I have no idea, it's far more sensible to stay behind an SL there so you can get close and draft them down the next straight - and get a free pass on all the other 'normal' cars in the process. We'd have been an easy 3rd and 4th by the end of the lap that way.

Well, it was not my intention to dive into t2 and give you trouble. I'm sorry. I have a light remembering of maybe slidin more than expected due to cold tires.
Generally, with my slower maserati i have to use every chance. Having lost the tow once, i will never get there again, as it was from lap 10 on when you went up to 4seconds in front.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: Clive Loynes on January 25, 2018, 09:01:48 AM +0000

I am certainly no expert on computers as you all know, but this feels to me like either Win 10 is starting something in the background that conflicts with GPL. OR that the PC does not recognise GPL as a running programme ( because it applies such a small load on the processor?) and goes into sleep mode?.
Any ideas would be appreciated as this problem is making my participation in UKGPL more of a pain in the a** than an enjoyable game simulation, and frankly I am losing interest.


I know that if you add your knowledge of computers to mine you still end up with twice bugger all but I was also thinking sound cards when reading of your woes.

I believe that Axel has some preferred Soundblaster drivers that might be worth a try.  Or perhaps another sound card?

Also, is your PSU up to the job?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: Cookie on January 25, 2018, 09:37:48 AM +0000
The sound problems were gone after XP ;)
MS has lowered the quality of the sound engine, so every cheap onboard chip is able to do the job now.

Afaik it is a strong PC but seems to have problems handling old software...
Clive can you make a snapshot with HWiNFO64 portable (https://www.hwinfo.com/download.php) of your system?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: EvilClive on January 25, 2018, 01:44:24 PM +0000
Yep Clive, our combined computer based knowledge don't amount to whole heap of turnips does it?? Some say ignorance is bliss, but it can also be very frustrating!!!



Thanks for the soundcard clear up Axel. Just a thought? does it matter if I am running GPL in XP compatability mode???

D/loaded the HWINFO64 and I have sent you an email with the screenshot and the report

oops! don't have your email Axel ?? :-\


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on January 25, 2018, 01:55:58 PM +0000
Clive, might not be relevant but have you checked the power saving settings. Could be your machine is set to timeout after an hour. I had this issue several years back.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: EvilClive on January 25, 2018, 01:59:02 PM +0000
Am I being very dumb  ( the answer is probably YES!!) but I cannot insert the screenshot into a post??!! whatever I try does not appear to work?

Thanks for the heads up Bill, I have checked every power saving setting that I can find and either disabled it or extended it to 6hrs or more, so I don't think that is the culprit but..................................maybe there is one that I missed?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: Cookie on January 25, 2018, 02:12:17 PM +0000
You can send it via forums personal messages ;)

Yes the forum software refuses to let you post pictures sometimes...
Not your fault!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: francesco on January 25, 2018, 03:51:02 PM +0000
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The start saw me heavily swamped and nearly ended in the cornfield when Bastian, for some reason, chose to make a dive into Courbe Annie Bousquet (T2) while I was trying navigate my truck through it on a normal line. Keeping myself on the black stuff cost another place or 2.
Why he did it I have no idea, it's far more sensible to stay behind an SL there so you can get close and draft them down the next straight - and get a free pass on all the other 'normal' cars in the process. We'd have been an easy 3rd and 4th by the end of the lap that way.
I have had the same problem with Axel and Loynes.With Axel i have modified my line to avoid an incident but ending into the grain Field ,reset and S&G.With Loynes there was a touch and again into the field,again reset and S&G.After i was frustrated and i have abbandoned.
I can understand that for other car is difficult to overtake an SL but this place is very dangerous.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: uli on January 25, 2018, 09:51:20 PM +0000
I waited about 20 minutes until I felt confident as a first reserve driver to take no place of anyone.
At the beginning I had some brake problems with a full tank. Then a relaxed race followed. 
At last I had a nice duel with Dean (THX for very fair fighting) who was able to catch up me shortly before finish.
I'm looking forward to the next race  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: Clive Loynes on January 25, 2018, 10:48:45 PM +0000
Congratulations to Tim, Sam and Tristan.

My race could have been better.

I made a cautious start and dropped a few places but then on lap two I lost the Lancia under braking at the end of the straight.  Thankfully I managed to go down the escape road without hitting anyone but I was just trying to figure out how to regain the track without collecting another car when someone threw a Connaught at me!  After that I just gunned it out of the slip road and thankfully missed everyone.  Shortly after this I was trying to turn inside Greg at T2 when I touched the brakes and spun.

Later I caught up with a battle that consisted of Alex, Doni, Fran and someone else and managed to get to the front of this group along with Fran at about lap seven.  Fran and I had a great battle that lasted until lap fifteen, when sadly we touched.  I was a wary of my brakes after the first few laps and Fran was doing great things with the SL's brakes and so it was difficult to make a pass that would stick.  It was a shame that it ended as it did but the mods will take a look at it.

After that it was just a matter of getting to the finish.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: Jack O'Ferrall on January 27, 2018, 05:11:48 PM +0000
Is it a requirement to use compatibility mode?  I use administrator mode and no compatibility mode.

I had very similar problems before my extended absence, which were due to the new video card I had acquired- after I returned it and replaced it with a similar secondhand one the issues vanished.  However at the time I was also having trouble with other applications, if yours are confined to GPL then hardware won't be the issue.  I'd run a memtest check anyway to be sure, it is very likely some sort of memory issue as you can run it for some time before the freeze.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: francesco on February 02, 2018, 05:40:24 PM +0000
I read that the incident with Loynes is classified racing incident byt from the replay is clearly visible that the Lancia lose the rear.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: bagrupp on February 05, 2018, 01:07:51 PM +0000
this seems more difficult than i remeber .
i'm excited to watch it later


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: miner2049er on February 05, 2018, 03:39:47 PM +0000
If this is the incident I watched live after retiring my own car, I thought at the time that Clive was squeezed but I would need to watch it again.

If you want to see the definition of squeezed, watch my race. At one point I was sandwiched.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Reims - Jan 23
Post by: francesco on February 05, 2018, 05:39:29 PM +0000
I have seen Clive at the last minute.Previously i have had the same with Axel but i have seen the nose.Despite a correction of the line there was a little touch but seem more a warping.The result,in both case,was to finish into the grain field that i have not understod why becomes a trap where is impossible to exit.To reset with S&G.
To me the incident with Clive seem due to the rear lost by the Lancia.What  made me lose my patience was the damned grain field.
Both could be 2 normal exit in other track(probably), with the possibility to regain the race.