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Title: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: EvilClive on February 02, 2018, 02:22:16 PM +0000 The Nurburgring is always a challenge for drivers and cars.
Survival and preservation of brakes for when you really need them will be important around here. The home circuit for the Silver Arrows does not guarantee a victory, although they will enjoy the long straight and the fast sections. Please be aware of your brake condition and respect the cars in front. There have been a few incidents this season that were down to drivers over estimating their ability to slow their car, and taking out a fellow competitor. Moderating has been lenient in this regard so far, but by now we ought to be understanding what is happening and making adjustments to our driving. Big Brother is watching. ;) Race List= IGOR Server= UKGPL_8 IP Address= see IGOR Race date= 06-02-2018 GPL mod= 1955 mod 60fps patch used= 60fpsV2newmod Track= Nurburgring Qualification= 20:45 UK time -> 45min Race= race starts at ~21:30 UK time Race length= ~50 min -> 6 laps Damage Model= INTERMEDIATE Replay= here (ftp://ftp.ukgpl9.co.uk:32122/Season32/Historics/) Password: see above Driver lists and divisional rules can be found on the championship standings page Only reported incidents will be moderated, there is no Red Zone. Handicapping and chassis allocation. This season the 1955's will be using a token system which allows drivers to purchase any chassis of their choice for a given number of tokens as published on the championship standings page. Drivers classed as Amateurs will be allocated an additional 10 tokens. The token allocation will not be managed in SRou this season so (unlike the 67F1 Works and 67F1 Privateer divisions) the tokens available to each driver will not appear in the championship table (when the mouse pointer is hovered over the driver's total). Rather, the available tokens will be published in the race announcement. See below. Available Tokens: Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start. Driver Tokens Status Robert Fleurke 5 EvilClive 9 Ronniepeterson 29 DLogan 7 FullMetalGasket 7 Doni Yourth 15 Clive Loynes 5 Samb 10 MagicArsouille 0 Turkey Machine 1 GregT 13 Carlos Cendejas 5 Cookie 1 Uli 10 Billy Nobrakes 6 maddog 15 bagrupp 0 Geoff65 10 Jeep 10 Gareth 10 Rainier 1 Phil Thornton 2 dave curtis 8 francesco 0 ReiverEcosse 5 Syd Drake 10 Will Tway 15 miner2049er 0 Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: bagrupp on February 02, 2018, 02:24:30 PM +0000 I Just Realised i will miss due to a Business trip :oops: :thumbdown: :no:
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: Clive Loynes on February 02, 2018, 02:49:10 PM +0000 Gordini for me. Wouldn't waste a brass farthing on this place, let alone a whole Thornton Dollar! ::)
That's tough Bastian. Is there no way that you can start the race? Otherwise you will only have ten points for Silverstone. :( Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: Clive Loynes on February 03, 2018, 08:03:50 PM +0000 I see we are in Pro mode again.
EDIT: And this is really bad news for someone who is currently using three cars per lap! Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: EvilClive on February 04, 2018, 08:56:57 AM +0000 Sorry Clive. The race post has been amended. This first season with the 55's is at Intermediate.
Star polishing up all those spare cars ;) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: Clive Loynes on February 04, 2018, 02:13:13 PM +0000 In the '67 cars the Cooper used to be recognised as the slowest of the lot but at least it was a nice thing to drive.
In '55 the Gordini is the runt of the litter and it is an absolute sod to boot. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: EvilClive on February 04, 2018, 02:47:34 PM +0000 ..............................and such a pretty little car too. :whistling:
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: FullMetalGasket on February 04, 2018, 04:19:22 PM +0000 Oi! None of that! The Gordini is the best car in the mod :P
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: Clive Loynes on February 05, 2018, 12:01:49 AM +0000 Oi! None of that! The Gordini is the best car in the mod :P LOL I think it has been devised for aliens! But progress has been made in that I've now managed a three lap AI race on the same set of wheels. :jumpjoy: Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: Cookie on February 05, 2018, 05:40:53 PM +0000 Training server is up,
please test it as it is totaly new, please report any issues :detective: Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: Clive Loynes on February 05, 2018, 06:32:45 PM +0000 Training server is up, please test it as it is totaly new, please report any issues :detective: Just been on with Martin Hunt and, every now and then, his car was vanishing for a few seconds at a time. Don't know it it was him, me or the server. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: Cookie on February 05, 2018, 06:37:31 PM +0000 Martin is with WiFi so his warp is normal...
I looked at your car and it looked ok :thumbup1: Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: Phil Thornton on February 05, 2018, 10:29:02 PM +0000 Joined the server and connection seemed fine but didn't get the chance to circulate with other cars in sight.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: miner2049er on February 05, 2018, 10:54:34 PM +0000 .... didn't get the chance to circulate with other cars in sight. I did and nobody disappeared, other than over the horizon. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: ReiverEcosse on February 06, 2018, 07:25:55 PM +0000 Well I'm looking forward to an fascinating hour of hurling a Vanwall into various hedges. Shift-R and a stop every lap I suspect.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: Clive Loynes on February 06, 2018, 08:23:00 PM +0000 Well I'm looking forward to an fascinating hour of hurling a Vanwall into various hedges. Shift-R and a stop every lap I suspect. I'm hoping that we have a rule regarding there not being enough trips past the pits to fit in all the SnG's that I have accumulated. And I've just watched a replay and made myself feel ill! :surrender: Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: DLogan on February 06, 2018, 08:26:31 PM +0000 ...Shift-R and a stop every lap I suspect. Good news! Only one stop per lap, no matter how many shift-r's used! And yeah, Ima use a lot of em today. Meant to get some practice, sh*t happened, and now Space-X is launching the Heavy for the first time (watch here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbSwFU6tY1c&ab_channel=SpaceX), and space-geek me isn't missing that. So I'll be late today. And unpracticed, with no set-up. ;D Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: Phil Thornton on February 06, 2018, 08:27:36 PM +0000 It's going to take me well over an hour to do 6 laps around here. I dare say the aliens may do 6 laps in 50 odd minutes :scooter:
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: MagicArsouille on February 06, 2018, 10:18:49 PM +0000 Pffff ! I think I will stop this irrealistic brakeless mod ....no fun to race whith out break after 3 turns :/...
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: Cookie on February 06, 2018, 10:54:59 PM +0000 I am with you Tris!
Taking a car with disk-brakes that behave same as any stupid drumbrake makes no fun, so I retired after half lap... Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: FullMetalGasket on February 06, 2018, 11:00:26 PM +0000 Lancia must have built my car out of used tank parts; how I managed to simply drive away from that roll/crash at adenauer forst I'll never know. Although the list of damage and my cars behaviour certainly suggest it was an 'only-just'.
It was a very weird off - I hadn't bottomed out though there at any point in practice on or offline, and qualified on full fuel aswell: Quote 3m37.460s Tim Muttram55 - spotters reporting: medium problems with right rear suspension. minor problems with left rear tire. 3m40.460s Tim Muttram55 - spotters reporting: minor problems with right front tire. minor problems with right rear tire. minor problems with right front suspension. medium problems with left rear suspension. severe problems with right rear suspension I spent the rest of he race fighting the car as much as everyone else - I'm eternally grateful to the drivers who waved me back through, although I also enjoyed the scrap with clive until he pulled over. After successfully managing my brakes for the entire race I finally lost them completely entering Aremburg behind Uli - he was on the left so I fired to the right and hoped he'd seen me early enough to take avoiding action. Unfortunately he didn't so we both danced off into the grass and I had to wait for him to recover before continuing. The fight continued all the way around the track until we reached Arenburg on the final lap - I'd had a small off a mile or so earlier so was much further back than normal but Uli managed to either lock up or simply lost brakes. After all that fighting it was a shame to take first in that fashion but points mean prizes so I pressed on harder as I hadn't been involved ;D Well done to Sam for rounding out the top 3, and Clive for finishing yet again. A big well done to everyone who managed to finish, that was a bonkers crazy hard race. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: Clive Loynes on February 06, 2018, 11:34:26 PM +0000 Well that was an hour and fifty six minutes of absolute HELL!
Not looked at the details yet but apologies to Fran and Donny are probably in order. The Gordini is a pain to get off the line at the best of times but when you have left it in neutral it's even more of a challenge. That put me in real trouble but I was prepared to wait for the inevitable crashes to work my way forwards. Trouble is that there isn't much space for a spun car to sit on this awful track and I found Fran blocking the road on the first lap. I think that I was just about bog last after that and have no idea in what order to list the subsequent collisions. I don't know how accurate the mod is and never will but I think that it may well model what would happen to the brakes of a 1955 car if it were driven like a 2018 car. The brakes are there, up to a point. ;-) You just have to spot it coming! Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: miner2049er on February 06, 2018, 11:53:38 PM +0000 Not sure if I've raced here before but it was fun even though it feels more like a rally than a race.
I bumped the right rear and I think Doni hit me in the same corner. I also barrel rolled but landed on the wheels and continued with no real ill effects but the car behaved quite oddly after that but it was still drivable. Until it wasn't. Unfortunately that happened at short notice under braking so I reset. I blew an engine after slipstreaming Dave down the straight and had another reset. At one point I thought Clive had passed before I reset but appeared to land on top of him so apologies Clive. Looking forward to Silverstone in the Lancia but please run a 65 mod next season. These are fun but not 65 fun. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: Cookie on February 07, 2018, 12:23:02 AM +0000 Server seems to have worked well, but I have troubles uploading the results into the SROU database, so I post the results here provisional.
Code: Track: Nurburg Tue Feb 06 22:39:54 2018 Funny is that the upload to the GH-weekly server worked without problems... Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: GregT on February 07, 2018, 03:25:01 AM +0000 Congrats Tim, Uli, and Sam! Excellent lap times at the front.
The server seemed to work well. I didn't see any problems this time. I was discoed but I suspect that was here or something with the internet. I immediately tried to open my web browser and it took a few seconds to load my home page. I hope somebody's not trying to ruin online gaming between North America and Europe. No time for practicing again. I was pleased where I started. I didn't think I'd get myself in much trouble there. I let Clive through as soon as it was convenient. I didn't want to deny him the opportunity to see if he could keep up with the cars in front of us. I was in no shape to try to battle with anybody. My plan was to finish unscathed and see if could post a decent lap time. My car was still running well even though I bounced off a wall once. I'm getting tired of not finishing races. I didn't think it would be a problem to finish where I was when I discoed. I would have liked to have seen if I could have gained any on Clive and Sam later in the race. I'm like some of the others. I'm not particularly fond of driving without brakes. If I'm not worried about myself not being able to slow down, I'm worried about the car behind me. Take care guys. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: GregT on February 07, 2018, 03:29:44 AM +0000 Oh! and I apologize Sam. I almost ran over you. Had it taken me a fraction of a second longer to figure out where you were, I would have hit you. That would have been shameful. I guess I did get a little bit of good luck. :)
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: francesco on February 07, 2018, 07:19:17 AM +0000 Quote Not looked at the details yet but apologies to Fran and Donny are probably in order. I must say that when you are behind i'm preoccupied.Despite this incident is the first time that a race at Nurb excite me.The brake are a problem in the first curves after the strong braking at the end of straght,anyway this add some taste to the race. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: Clive Loynes on February 07, 2018, 09:36:18 AM +0000 ............... At one point I thought Clive had passed before I reset but appeared to land on top of him so apologies Clive. LOL that explains it. I thought that you were way ahead of me and didn't spot you when I had my own spin. I had just reversed to get the nose aimed in the right direction when you hit me. I was still in a muddle wondering what the hell had happened when Doni arrived. Sorry again Doni, from both of us. ;-) I now think that taking the Gordini was a bad tactical error on a track where there is hardly any room to overtake and the engine lacks enough grunt to take advantage of what few opportunities present themselves. All the bloke in front has to do is drive down the middle of the track, trying not to crash, and it doesn't leave any room on either side to get past him. However, I've saved enough cash to take whatever car I want at Silverstone. Congratulations to Tim, Uli and Sam for the podium and to Evil also on apparently beating Windows10 into submission. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: Samb on February 07, 2018, 09:47:44 AM +0000 Yes, well done to the guys that made it to the flag! That sure was a tough race. Tried as a I might I couldn't match Tim & Uli's pace up front. After a silly spin on the first lap and dropping down the field I managed to work my way to 3rd place and stayed there to the flag. I enjoyed battling with Clive & Greg early on.
Thanks guys, see you at the next one. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: EvilClive on February 07, 2018, 09:59:07 AM +0000 I may have made this race one extra lap too long as it turned into a bit of a marathon. Sorry guys :-\
But, it did make for a fascinating race and plenty of time for small mistakes to affect the results ;). For me another completed race is a bonus and I was keen to avoid wrecking my car so that I could test the stability of my rig and see the finish. Unless I am feeling seriously confident of a podium or possible win at Nurby, I don't really worry about qually or a grid position. There are far too many opportunities for incidents that will allow me to progress up the leader board if I am fast ( and careful ) enough. One or two laps of practice to get myself dialled in and check the gearing is enough. Tim, Uli and Sam were looking very fast and Greg also looked quick in his Merc. so the race was going to be tough. After Tim's early off I was up to 2nd but under no illusion that he would be back. Tim did catch me and I let him pass...eventually ::) and concentrated on getting my car to the finish. Sam also was much quicker and he went past and vanished after I had to do a SnG when my engine blew after a missed upshift...my first blown engine in 55's I think. But with a large gap back to Martin I was able to continue in 4th and complete a lonely second half of the race. Grats to Tim Uli and Sam who were in their own race and deserved the podium places. FWIW and might help those who struggle with the brakes. I found that my brakes were not really a problem, provided that I concentrated on keeping my left foot ( I left foot brake) OFF the pedal unless I needed to slow the car. Driving these 55 cars in the early days after they were released, my brakes never seemed to recover to the green state. It took me a while, but I discovered that on all the other car mods I had got into the habit of keeping my left foot just touching the brake pedal..ready for action. I have my pedals set with zero deadzone so any slight pressure activates the brakes. Not a problem when the brakes don't fade and you have loads of power, but in the 55's it keeps the brakes hot and red. Once I trained myself to move my foot away from brake pedal and to avoid balancing the car through corners using brake and gas, plus only using the brakes when absolutely essential. So check what you are doing with your left foot and try cornering WITHOUT brakes on some of the easier curves, utilising the gears to scrub off speed. You might find that you have more brakes when you really need them. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: Phil Thornton on February 07, 2018, 08:39:51 PM +0000 I've loaded the chassis the drivers used into the token calculator spreadsheet. For the next race the available tokens will be as declared in the table below (the table will also appear in the next race announcement). The calculated values are automated but selecting the cars is a manual process so please check your tokens to make sure I haven't made a silly error. There was no token overspend for this round so no one is disqualified.
Available Tokens: Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: uli on February 07, 2018, 08:44:04 PM +0000 GRATS to you Tim and Sam,
great racing, close and hard fighting :) what irritated me though only was that GREEN bloody fast Vanwall behind me sry, but a GREEN Maserati fells totally strange to me ;) looking forward to silverstone Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: Phil Thornton on February 07, 2018, 08:58:12 PM +0000 I notice several people are not happy with the lack of brakes in this mod but I was very pleased with my race. Maybe I should work on the braking in the other mods, it appears to be my weakness. I seem to do better in the 55s compared with the other mods.
To my surprise I managed to finish just over a minute under the hour. I got a great start, probably because I could see the flag man from my right hand grid position. I settled in quickly and after exchanging places with Tris I managed to slowly reel in Martin. At times I thought I would catch him but Martin drove very well and had the measure of me. In fact he allowed me to get very close on the run in to the line but I'm sure he was just pacing himself and had plenty in hand. I really like this mod, it requires a different approach. More measured and reserved. Patience is rewarded. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: francesco on February 07, 2018, 10:13:20 PM +0000 Quote I really like this mod, it requires a different approach. More measured and reserved. Patience is rewarded. I agree :thumbup1:Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: FullMetalGasket on February 07, 2018, 11:44:23 PM +0000 what irritated me though only was that GREEN bloody fast Vanwall behind me sry, but a GREEN Maserati fells totally strange to me ;) It threw me as well - I thought I had picked the wrong car! Title: Re: UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Nürburgring - Feb 6 Post by: bagrupp on February 08, 2018, 12:25:59 PM +0000 Although i missed it, my business trip brought me to the ring.
I avoided doing a fastlap, having a time schedule with the coustumer and the wrong car with me. |