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Title: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Phil Thornton on May 15, 2018, 11:59:24 PM +0100
1955 Grand Prix - Round 1 – Spa-Francorchamps

The first race in the 1955 Grand Prix series takes us to Spa-Francorchamps in Belgium.  Designed in 1920 the original triangle-shaped course used public roads between the Belgian towns of Francorchamps, Malmedy, and Stavelot. The track was intended to have hosted its inaugural race in August 1921, however the first car race was held at the circuit in 1922. Spa was the fastest road circuit in Europe at the time, and it had a nasty reputation for being dangerous and very fast- it was a circuit known to be one for the brave, and most drivers were frightened of it. The old Spa circuit was unique in that speeds were consistently high with hardly any let-up at all for 3–4 minutes. This made it an extraordinarily difficult mental challenge (& ridiculously easy to crash).

Carefully read the rules on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=639&theme=6).

IP =  188.104.209.14

Race listiGOR
ServerUKGPL_8
IP address188.104.209.14
Date20-05-2018
TrackSpa '67 (http://srmz.net/index.php?s=448c71de31d5af327ee46f7dfc1fde15&showtopic=10443)
Mod55F1 with 60fpsV2newmod
Damage PRO long
Race time~ 21:30 UK time
Qualifying 20:45 UK time - 45 minutes
Race length12 laps
Replay here (ftp://ftp.ukgpl9.co.uk:32122/Season33/55GP)

Please restrict chat to emergency messages only including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Password: see above (#post_event_password)
Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=639&theme=6)

Handicapping and chassis allocation.
This season the 1955 Grand Prix cars will be using a token system which allows drivers to purchase any chassis of their choice for a given number of tokens as published on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=639&theme=6). Drivers classed as Amateurs will be allocated an additional 10 tokens.  The token allocation will not be managed in SRou this season so (unlike the 67F1 Works and 67F1 Privateer divisions) the tokens available to each driver will not appear in the championship table (when the mouse pointer is hovered over the driver's total).  Rather, the available tokens will be published in the race announcement. See table below.

Given that this is the first race, all Professional drivers will be allocated 10 tokens and all Amateur drivers will be allocated 20 tokens.

Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver   TokensStatus
bagrupp
10
Pro
Clive Loynes
10
Pro
Doni Yourth
10
Pro
EvilClive
10
Pro
fpolicardi
20
Am
francesco   
20
Am
Phil Thornton
20
Am
DLogan
20
Am
Gareth
20
Am
Jeep
20
Am
Uli   
10
Pro
FullMetalGasket
10
Pro
Will Tway
10
Pro

Not yet able to import the data, so here are results:

Code:
Track: Spa67             Sun May 20 21:27:16 2018

PRACTICE TIMES

Pos No Driver                           Team     Nat      Time      Diff Laps
 1  24 Uli55 Hofmann                    Lancia   GER 4m01.563s              6
 2  20 Axel Cookie                      Lancia   GER 4m01.614s   00.051s   11
 3  28 John Hammonds55                  Mercedes GBR 4m01.850s   00.287s    8
 4   2  55evil                          Lancia   GBR 4m03.434s   01.871s    5
 5  26 Fulvio Policardi-55              Ferrari  ITA 4m05.729s   04.166s    5
 6  14 Tim Muttram55                    Gordini  GBR 4m06.514s   04.951s   11
 7  18 fran55 Molteni                   Lancia   ITA 4m07.135s   05.572s    3
 8  36 Bastian Grupp                    Mercedes GER 4m07.574s   06.011s    1
 9   8 Clive Loynes55                   Gordini  GBR 4m07.604s   06.041s   11
10  16 Dean Logan 55                    Maserati CAN 4m10.914s   09.351s    7
11   6  Doni55                          Gordini  CAN 4m29.730s   28.167s    3
12  34 Sam Blood                        Vanwall  GBR   No time   No time    0
13  32 Bob Whitwell                     Maserati GBR   No time   No time    0
14   4 60fps UKGPL8                     Lancia   GBR   No time   No time    0

All times are official
Generated with GPL Replay Analyser


Track: Spa67             Sun May 20 21:27:16 2018

RACE RESULTS (After 12 laps)

Pos No Driver                          Team     Nat Laps   Race Time       Diff
 1  20 Axel Cookie                     Lancia   GER   12  48m41.645s            
 2  36 Bastian Grupp                   Mercedes GER   12  49m04.516s    22.871s
 3  14 Tim Muttram55                   Gordini  GBR   12  49m57.034s  1m15.389s
 4  18 fran55 Molteni                  Lancia   ITA   12  50m30.211s  1m48.566s
 5   6  Doni55                         Gordini  CAN   12  50m51.982s  2m10.337s
 6   2  55evil                         Lancia   GBR   11  45m00.207s   1 lap(s)
 7  16 Dean Logan 55                   Maserati CAN   11  46m01.574s   1 lap(s)
 8   8 Clive Loynes55                  Gordini  GBR   10  49m24.002s   2 lap(s)
 9  34 Sam Blood                       Vanwall  GBR    2   8m27.684s  10 lap(s)
10  24 Uli55 Hofmann                   Lancia   GER    1   4m08.000s  11 lap(s)
11  28 John Hammonds55                 Mercedes GBR    1   4m09.539s  11 lap(s)
12  26 Fulvio Policardi-55             Ferrari  ITA    1   4m14.562s  11 lap(s)
13  32 Bob Whitwell                    Maserati GBR    0   0m00.000s  12 lap(s)
14   4 60fps UKGPL8                    Lancia   GBR    0 DidNotStart  12 lap(s)


Race results are unofficial
(Replay might have been saved before end of race)

RACE FASTEST LAPS

Pos Driver                                 Time Lap
 1  Bastian Grupp                     4m01.214s  11
 2  Axel Cookie                       4m01.786s  12
 3   55evil                           4m01.821s  11
 4  Dean Logan 55                     4m04.987s   9
 5   Doni55                           4m06.182s   9
 6  fran55 Molteni                    4m06.855s  11
 7  Tim Muttram55                     4m07.161s   9
 8  Sam Blood                         4m08.661s   2
 9  John Hammonds55                   4m08.787s   1
10  Uli55 Hofmann                     4m08.956s   1
11  Clive Loynes55                    4m10.223s   2
12  Fulvio Policardi-55               4m12.690s   1
13  Bob Whitwell                        No time
14  60fps UKGPL8                        No time


LEADERS

Driver                           Laps
Uli55 Hofmann                    1
Axel Cookie                      2-12

Number of lead changes: 1
Number of leaders: 2


LAPS LED

Driver                           Laps led
Axel Cookie                      11
Uli55 Hofmann                    1


HIGHEST CLIMBER

Driver                           Start Finish  Change
Bastian Grupp                        8      2       6  
 Doni55                             11      5       6  
Tim Muttram55                        6      3       3  
fran55 Molteni                       7      4       3  
Dean Logan 55                       10      7       3  
Sam Blood                           12      9       3  
Axel Cookie                          2      1       1  
Clive Loynes55                       9      8       1  
60fps UKGPL8                        14     14       0  
Bob Whitwell                        13     13       0  
 55evil                              4      6      -2  
Fulvio Policardi-55                  5     12      -7  
John Hammonds55                      3     11      -8  
Uli55 Hofmann                        1     10      -9  


ON TRACK LAPS

Driver                           Laps/Total    Percent
Axel Cookie                         (12/12)     100.00
 Doni55                             (11/12)      91.67
Bastian Grupp                       (10/12)      83.33
fran55 Molteni                       (8/12)      66.67
Clive Loynes55                       (7/10)      70.00
Tim Muttram55                        (6/12)      50.00
 55evil                              (5/11)      45.45
Dean Logan 55                        (5/11)      45.45
Sam Blood                             (2/2)     100.00
Fulvio Policardi-55                   (1/1)     100.00
John Hammonds55                       (1/1)     100.00
Uli55 Hofmann                         (0/1)       0.00


RACE LAPTIME CONSISTENCY
(first lap excluded)

Driver                    Avg Deviation  Std Deviation  Avg Laptime   Laps
Sam Blood                         0.000          0.000    4m08.661s      2
Axel Cookie                       0.668          0.930    4m03.013s     12
Bastian Grupp                     1.135          1.400    4m04.628s     12
Tim Muttram55                     1.232          1.617    4m09.210s     12
 55evil                           1.587          1.880    4m05.026s     11
Dean Logan 55                     3.811          5.103    4m09.774s     11
fran55 Molteni                    5.463          7.187    4m12.210s     12
 Doni55                           7.013         11.881    4m13.448s     12
Clive Loynes55                   16.065          3.916    5m00.773s     10




Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: fpolicardi on May 16, 2018, 11:25:54 AM +0100
Pro?! I'm a newby with these cars, I haven't do a lap since ages  :angel:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: EvilClive on May 16, 2018, 11:34:22 AM +0100
I might miss this race as I am out earlier in the day and may not get home in time.
I will instruct Arnold and Mabel to warm the engine up and kick the tyres, just in case I can make it home and leap into the cockpit with shorts, T shirt and leather sandals  ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: miner2049er on May 16, 2018, 12:29:47 PM +0100
.... just in case I can make it home and leap into the cockpit with shorts, T shirt and leather sandals  ::)

and socks.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Clive Loynes on May 16, 2018, 07:22:33 PM +0100
.... just in case I can make it home and leap into the cockpit with shorts, T shirt and leather sandals  ::)

and socks.

Absolutely!  Socks are a must at our age!  Stops the chafing and has the added benefit of anoying the hell out of ones offspring!

But I'm a bit worried about Arnold and Mabel being unsupervised for that long! 

This could be the first 60fps race for my "new" pc.  I'm on Windows7 as I couldn't face the trials and tribulations that Evil went through!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Phil Thornton on May 16, 2018, 08:27:45 PM +0100
Pro?! I'm a newby with these cars, I haven't do a lap since ages  :angel:
OK I appreciate it takes some time to adapt to these cars so I will make you an Am. But if you finish ahead of any of the Pro drivers in this race I will have to re-assign you as a Pro. I need to be fair to all the other Pro drivers. In either case you won't be able overspend your tokens for this race.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Clive Loynes on May 16, 2018, 10:21:46 PM +0100
LOL

Crivens!  If Fulvio and Will are amateurs then I must be due a few extra Thornton Dollars too!!!   ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Phil Thornton on May 16, 2018, 10:51:05 PM +0100
LOL

Crivens!  If Fulvio and Will are amateurs then I must be due a few extra Thornton Dollars too!!!   ;D
I've always considered you to be an awesome driver Clive, well deserving of Professional status ;).  However I accept my subjective view of driver ability is somewhat flawed. So I'll use an objective measure instead.  Anyone finishing 6th or higher in Season 32 55GP will be assigned Professional status. That should be fair.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Clive Loynes on May 16, 2018, 11:02:32 PM +0100
LOL

Crivens!  If Fulvio and Will are amateurs then I must be due a few extra Thornton Dollars too!!!   ;D
I've always considered you to be an awesome driver Clive, well deserving of Professional status.  However I accept my subjective view of driver ability is somewhat flawed. So I'll use an objective measure instead.  Anyone finishing 6th or higher in Season 32 55GP will be assigned Professional status. That should be fair.

LOL I'm only pulling your leg.

Besides, if Silverstone is ever moderated it will probably put me 5th overall, due to my having started from the pits at Silverstone and actually finishing between Uli and yourself, but the current results still show me a lap down  :(

Not so sure about awsome either!  "Not bad for his age!" might be nearer the mark.

Looking forward to the new season on my new pc that bangs in 60fps all the way around Spa67!   :jumpjoy:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Phil Thornton on May 16, 2018, 11:12:57 PM +0100
LOL I'm only pulling your leg
I know you are  ;D, nevertheless I'm happier with the updated assignments. Unfortunately I'm probably going to miss this round; I'm going to the NW200 and I doubt I'll make it back home for 21:30   :scooter:
 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Clive Loynes on May 17, 2018, 10:15:03 AM +0100
Hope the weather is kind to you.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: fpolicardi on May 17, 2018, 10:33:20 AM +0100
LOL

Crivens!  If Fulvio and Will are amateurs then I must be due a few extra Thornton Dollars too!!!   ;D

LOL, better I do some practice before sunday  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Clive Loynes on May 17, 2018, 11:16:14 AM +0100
LOL

Crivens!  If Fulvio and Will are amateurs then I must be due a few extra Thornton Dollars too!!!   ;D

LOL, better I do some practice before sunday  ;D

Good idea!  You could always join the GPLRACER event tonight at Bremgarten.  Quite good practice for Spa.   ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: fpolicardi on May 17, 2018, 11:22:04 AM +0100
LOL

Crivens!  If Fulvio and Will are amateurs then I must be due a few extra Thornton Dollars too!!!   ;D

LOL, better I do some practice before sunday  ;D

Good idea!  You could always join the GPLRACER event tonight at Bremgarten.  Quite good practice for Spa.   ;D
Thx for the offer Clive, but on thursday I practice with my music group  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: EvilClive on May 17, 2018, 12:41:20 PM +0100
.... just in case I can make it home and leap into the cockpit with shorts, T shirt and leather sandals  ::)

and socks.

Absolutely!  Socks are a must at our age!  Stops the chafing and has the added benefit of anoying the hell out of ones offspring!

But I'm a bit worried about Arnold and Mabel being unsupervised for that long!  

This could be the first 60fps race for my "new" pc.  I'm on Windows7 as I couldn't face the trials and tribulations that Evil went through!

I did not mention my knee length Argyle socks and suspenders, as I thought it would be a little obvious. Surely every true British gentleman driver will be wearing something similar??
Clive's new computer should make him a definite PRO, now that he has lost the excuse of poor frame rate etc.

Regarding the moderating of the last few 55 races from last season..... My apologies to all, we are having major building works carried out on the house at the moment and are living out of cardboard boxes. My race computer is still there all ready to go, but negotiations for "playtime" are hard work ( unless there is something on TV that my wife really wants to watch, and I don't ).
 I have been trying to get the 55's to run on my laptop, just so that I can view replays and do moderations, whilst sitting in the one habitable room in the house. But although the mod appears to have loaded OK, I keep getting "could not load track" when I try and launch it........ It has just occurred to me that there are some default circuits that have to be included in the 55 season folder??? ::) ....................................................off to check that I have those in place!!

edit...tracks all appear to be installed correctly. Anyone have any suggestions??


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Clive Loynes on May 17, 2018, 12:49:28 PM +0100

Clive's new computer should make him a definite PRO, now that he has lost the excuse of poor frame rate etc.



There is still brain fade to fall back on.   ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: fpolicardi on May 17, 2018, 03:38:48 PM +0100
.... just in case I can make it home and leap into the cockpit with shorts, T shirt and leather sandals  ::)

and socks.

Absolutely!  Socks are a must at our age!  Stops the chafing and has the added benefit of anoying the hell out of ones offspring!

But I'm a bit worried about Arnold and Mabel being unsupervised for that long!  

This could be the first 60fps race for my "new" pc.  I'm on Windows7 as I couldn't face the trials and tribulations that Evil went through!

I did not mention my knee length Argyle socks and suspenders, as I thought it would be a little obvious. Surely every true British gentleman driver will be wearing something similar??
Clive's new computer should make him a definite PRO, now that he has lost the excuse of poor frame rate etc.

Regarding the moderating of the last few 55 races from last season..... My apologies to all, we are having major building works carried out on the house at the moment and are living out of cardboard boxes. My race computer is still there all ready to go, but negotiations for "playtime" are hard work ( unless there is something on TV that my wife really wants to watch, and I don't ).
 I have been trying to get the 55's to run on my laptop, just so that I can view replays and do moderations, whilst sitting in the one habitable room in the house. But although the mod appears to have loaded OK, I keep getting "could not load track" when I try and launch it........ It has just occurred to me that there are some default circuits that have to be included in the 55 season folder??? ::) ....................................................off to check that I have those in place!!

edit...tracks all appear to be installed correctly. Anyone have any suggestions??

Check that you are using 67season.ini in GEM+


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: EvilClive on May 17, 2018, 05:32:54 PM +0100
Thanks Fulvio for the advice but I finally discovered the problem... I was trying to run the 55's with the 67 carset!!   

We all knew that it would be something that I had done/not done correctly.  ::)

Almost completed the modding now just one race and one incident left to review.  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Clive Loynes on May 18, 2018, 05:22:21 PM +0100
Is there a practice server running at any time?

I have no iGOR race list.  :-(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: EvilClive on May 18, 2018, 05:38:27 PM +0100
Yup, I noticed that Igor was down too Clive.  No servers showing  :-\


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Cookie on May 18, 2018, 06:00:30 PM +0100
If iGOR is still down tomorrow , I will host a training server via IP  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Clive Loynes on May 18, 2018, 06:06:28 PM +0100
Cheers Axel.   :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Clive Loynes on May 19, 2018, 08:44:59 PM +0100
well I can't connect.  It times out.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Clive Loynes on May 19, 2018, 09:20:06 PM +0100
And now I can't even find the post where you gave the IP!


I'm sure that the post said that the IP was 94.217.63.121 and that the pw=Spa55 but now there is no sign of the post and still no sign of iGOR either.



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Cookie on May 19, 2018, 09:58:30 PM +0100
oups, I had it running all afternoon,

it will be back tomorrow  ~16:00 UK time ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Clive Loynes on May 20, 2018, 09:49:25 AM +0100
oups, I had it running all afternoon,

it will be back tomorrow  ~16:00 UK time ;)

LOL I didn't have time to look until about 8pm


I have attempted to create a server on my previous pc and have set it running Spa67 with no pw.

If someone could verify that it is working it would be most appreciated.  ;-)     IP = 143.159.194.255


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Cookie on May 20, 2018, 10:20:29 AM +0100
Are you shure this is the right IP? Looks like a subnet adress...

I got a time out. 60fpsV2newmod?

You can see your IP here on the bottom right  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Clive Loynes on May 20, 2018, 10:34:31 AM +0100
Are you shure this is the right IP? Looks like a subnet adress...

I got a time out. 60fpsV2newmod?

You can see your IP here on the bottom right  ;)

Here on the bottom right?   Where?

I ran this to get IP  http://ipv4.whatismyv6.com/ It gives the same address for my racing pc too.

Have relaunched after ticking another box on the "connections".

Please remember that I don't know what I'm doing!



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Cookie on May 20, 2018, 10:41:48 AM +0100
you see it in the post besides the "report to moderator"

But I could not join...

Have you opened all the ports in your router?


Try mine
IP =    188.104.209.14 in 5 minutes


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Clive Loynes on May 20, 2018, 01:07:37 PM +0100
Is iGOR being out of action linked to GPLRank being down?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Cookie on May 20, 2018, 01:31:10 PM +0100
Yes, they are hosted by the same guy -> blw.net


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Cookie on May 20, 2018, 08:33:01 PM +0100
Race server is running

IP = 188.104.209.14


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Baab on May 20, 2018, 09:15:34 PM +0100
can someone pls post the pw, I registered yesterday but the thread tells me I'm not licenced...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Jeep on May 20, 2018, 09:46:07 PM +0100
Too late now but fangio. :(

Well that was annoying. Running close in 3rd with Uli and Axel when Uli lost it at Burnenville and slid back across the track, Axel got through I didn't, lost a wheel, race over.  >:( Shame felt really comfortable and was content to sit behind the two of them waiting for a mistake. Oh well.

TTFN
John.
 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Samb on May 20, 2018, 10:03:43 PM +0100
Binned it  :-\. Need to find more time to practice I think.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: uli on May 20, 2018, 10:06:28 PM +0100
sry for that john
in practice two time engine troubles, anyway in my third try close pole and after start it seemed fine
but already in round two at the brunnenville I lost control :(
could have been such a nice evening.  :-\
cu next


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Cookie on May 20, 2018, 10:36:34 PM +0100
Yeah shame for the fun of this track, would have been great battle...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Clive Loynes on May 20, 2018, 10:56:24 PM +0100
I wasn't expecting brake problems here but my attempts to pass Fran must have used them more than I realised.

As a result I had to run off track to avoid hitting him at Les Combes.  I went clean over the barrier and was staggered to find that the car was still running!
But it wasn't well.  The engine had lost half of its three-dead-rat-power and the steering was all over the place and giving nasty great kicks every few seconds.

I thought that I would keep going in the hope that more of you would crash out but I have to say that you are a great disapointment to me!   :P


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Cookie on May 20, 2018, 11:18:18 PM +0100
The results:

Code:
Spa67             Sun May 20 21:27:16 2018

PRACTICE TIMES

Pos No Driver                           Team     Nat      Time      Diff Laps
 1  24 Uli55 Hofmann                    Lancia   GER 4m01.563s              6
 2  20 Axel Cookie                      Lancia   GER 4m01.614s   00.051s   11
 3  28 John Hammonds55                  Mercedes GBR 4m01.850s   00.287s    8
 4   2  55evil                          Lancia   GBR 4m03.434s   01.871s    5
 5  26 Fulvio Policardi-55              Ferrari  ITA 4m05.729s   04.166s    5
 6  14 Tim Muttram55                    Gordini  GBR 4m06.514s   04.951s   11
 7  18 fran55 Molteni                   Lancia   ITA 4m07.135s   05.572s    3
 8  36 Bastian Grupp                    Mercedes GER 4m07.574s   06.011s    1
 9   8 Clive Loynes55                   Gordini  GBR 4m07.604s   06.041s   11
10  16 Dean Logan 55                    Maserati CAN 4m10.914s   09.351s    7
11   6  Doni55                          Gordini  CAN 4m29.730s   28.167s    3
12  34 Sam Blood                        Vanwall  GBR   No time   No time    0
13  32 Bob Whitwell                     Maserati GBR   No time   No time    0
14   4 60fps UKGPL8                     Lancia   GBR   No time   No time    0

All times are official
Generated with GPL Replay Analyser


Track: Spa67             Sun May 20 21:27:16 2018

RACE RESULTS (After 12 laps)

Pos No Driver                          Team     Nat Laps   Race Time       Diff
 1  20 Axel Cookie                     Lancia   GER   12  48m41.645s           
 2  36 Bastian Grupp                   Mercedes GER   12  49m04.516s    22.871s
 3  14 Tim Muttram55                   Gordini  GBR   12  49m57.034s  1m15.389s
 4  18 fran55 Molteni                  Lancia   ITA   12  50m30.211s  1m48.566s
 5   6  Doni55                         Gordini  CAN   12  50m51.982s  2m10.337s
 6   2  55evil                         Lancia   GBR   11  45m00.207s   1 lap(s)
 7  16 Dean Logan 55                   Maserati CAN   11  46m01.574s   1 lap(s)
 8   8 Clive Loynes55                  Gordini  GBR   10  49m24.002s   2 lap(s)
 9  34 Sam Blood                       Vanwall  GBR    2   8m27.684s  10 lap(s)
10  24 Uli55 Hofmann                   Lancia   GER    1   4m08.000s  11 lap(s)
11  28 John Hammonds55                 Mercedes GBR    1   4m09.539s  11 lap(s)
12  26 Fulvio Policardi-55             Ferrari  ITA    1   4m14.562s  11 lap(s)
13  32 Bob Whitwell                    Maserati GBR    0   0m00.000s  12 lap(s)
14   4 60fps UKGPL8                    Lancia   GBR    0 DidNotStart  12 lap(s)


Race results are unofficial
(Replay might have been saved before end of race)

RACE FASTEST LAPS

Pos Driver                                 Time Lap
 1  Bastian Grupp                     4m01.214s  11
 2  Axel Cookie                       4m01.786s  12
 3   55evil                           4m01.821s  11
 4  Dean Logan 55                     4m04.987s   9
 5   Doni55                           4m06.182s   9
 6  fran55 Molteni                    4m06.855s  11
 7  Tim Muttram55                     4m07.161s   9
 8  Sam Blood                         4m08.661s   2
 9  John Hammonds55                   4m08.787s   1
10  Uli55 Hofmann                     4m08.956s   1
11  Clive Loynes55                    4m10.223s   2
12  Fulvio Policardi-55               4m12.690s   1
13  Bob Whitwell                        No time
14  60fps UKGPL8                        No time


LEADERS

Driver                           Laps
Uli55 Hofmann                    1
Axel Cookie                      2-12

Number of lead changes: 1
Number of leaders: 2


LAPS LED

Driver                           Laps led
Axel Cookie                      11
Uli55 Hofmann                    1


HIGHEST CLIMBER

Driver                           Start Finish  Change
Bastian Grupp                        8      2       6 
 Doni55                             11      5       6 
Tim Muttram55                        6      3       3 
fran55 Molteni                       7      4       3 
Dean Logan 55                       10      7       3 
Sam Blood                           12      9       3 
Axel Cookie                          2      1       1 
Clive Loynes55                       9      8       1 
60fps UKGPL8                        14     14       0 
Bob Whitwell                        13     13       0 
 55evil                              4      6      -2 
Fulvio Policardi-55                  5     12      -7 
John Hammonds55                      3     11      -8 
Uli55 Hofmann                        1     10      -9 


ON TRACK LAPS

Driver                           Laps/Total    Percent
Axel Cookie                         (12/12)     100.00
 Doni55                             (11/12)      91.67
Bastian Grupp                       (10/12)      83.33
fran55 Molteni                       (8/12)      66.67
Clive Loynes55                       (7/10)      70.00
Tim Muttram55                        (6/12)      50.00
 55evil                              (5/11)      45.45
Dean Logan 55                        (5/11)      45.45
Sam Blood                             (2/2)     100.00
Fulvio Policardi-55                   (1/1)     100.00
John Hammonds55                       (1/1)     100.00
Uli55 Hofmann                         (0/1)       0.00


RACE LAPTIME CONSISTENCY
(first lap excluded)

Driver                    Avg Deviation  Std Deviation  Avg Laptime   Laps
Sam Blood                         0.000          0.000    4m08.661s      2
Axel Cookie                       0.668          0.930    4m03.013s     12
Bastian Grupp                     1.135          1.400    4m04.628s     12
Tim Muttram55                     1.232          1.617    4m09.210s     12
 55evil                           1.587          1.880    4m05.026s     11
Dean Logan 55                     3.811          5.103    4m09.774s     11
fran55 Molteni                    5.463          7.187    4m12.210s     12
 Doni55                           7.013         11.881    4m13.448s     12
Clive Loynes55                   16.065          3.916    5m00.773s     10


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: francesco on May 21, 2018, 07:40:50 AM +0100
I have had a beatifull battle with Tim Muttram but during the umpteenth overtake at the enter of Blanchimont i have done an error.
I know that Tim was somewhere on my flank but i was surprised to suddenly see his wheels entering into the curve.My reaction,to avoid an incident,was a shot on the wheel but this have caused the lost of control of the car.I was into the green but without mechanical consequences.Take note that i was with a Lancia and Tim with a Gordini(difference between the pilots).
After this i have had a battle with Dean Logan.During the last lap,in the same place,Dean overtake me but go large into the curve,i tried to stay internal as possible(the speed don't allow better IMO) but Dean,obviously,try to re-enter and at this point the contact was done.
Despite this 2 out of truck my race was not so bad but,until now,i'm quite happy to have strongly reduced the engine explosion thanks to the new pedals.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: EvilClive on May 21, 2018, 09:16:33 AM +0100

I thought that I would keep going in the hope that more of you would crash out but I have to say that you are a great disapointment to me!   :P

I must have got the message on a late pit board Clive, so I threw it at the scenery on the final corner of the last lap in a ball of flames, to try and promote your finish by one place. That is the sort of gentleman I am.................maybe  ::)
 
Got home in time to join the race to find that Arnold and Mable had the Lancia warmed up and ready to go. Seemed a little expensive on tokens, but what the heck!
Qually on full tanks put me in 4th place but I was still tweaking gear ratios when it ended and then discovered that my wheel and pedals went limp!!
I tried to re-calibrate whilst the last few drivers  completed their final Q laps and thought that I might just about have saved my race....until I got on the grid. The pedals were working again, but the wheel was 45 deg off centre!!!  but at least it did turn the front wheels.

Eau Rouge was a real challenge from the start when I discovered that not only was the wheel off centre but the FF was screwed too  :scared: :scared:.
Lap 1 was a learning curve as I tried to adapt to the strange controls, but I stayed in touch with the learning trio...I did not dare get too close with a car that was twitchy as heck in the corners. Then Uli and John had their contretemps I was up to second but already aware of Bastian gaining ground in his Merc. When he caught me I allowed him an easy pass and tucked into the slipstream, hoping he might tow me up to Axel.

But Axel had things under control ( which was more than I could claim!!) and gradually eased away up front, but I felt there might just be a chance of sneaking second if I could make a good pass on Bastian near the end. I tried a few dummy passes with around 6 laps to go and settled down to watch and wait.
A half chance with 2 laps to go sucked me into trying to take 2nd spot. I although I pulled approx 150mtr lead at one point it was a lap too early and Bastian caught me on the final lap and retook the place.
There was one last chance if I could outbrake him into La Source, but I needed to stay close out of Blanchimont. Well I was close, and I might have gone for last of the demon brakers award................... but putting a wheel on the grass and nailing the gas combined with a dodgy steering and wierd FF caused me to lose control in spectacular fashion.
The car flipped from one side of the track to the other,hit a pylon to rip wheels off, I think I avoided Bastian who was braking conventionally for La Source and passed him whilst upside down, before ending it all in a fireball against the barriers......just 200mtrs from the flag.
Hero to Zero in 3 seconds   ::) :-\

Grats to Axel on the win and thanks to Bastian for some great racing. Apologies to Clive Loynes for making my charitable gesture too late to benefit him ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: fpolicardi on May 21, 2018, 12:34:59 PM +0100
Well, my debut with 55 cars wasn't the best  ::)
First thing I have to complain about mass chatting in qualy about Reset. Please read the race post, moderators commit time to write it, and chat it supposed to use by moderators for important info  ;)
I found a comfortable 5th place on the grid with the Fezza, but during qualy I found the big draft effect when following a car that I hadn't experienced practicing offline alone, so I had to optimize the gear ratios to not blew the engine.
Start and first  lap was good with Bastian passing me running down to Stavelot, but on lap 2 I was shocked by the crash ahead at Burneville that leaved John's Merc stopped on the race line and everybody managed to pass around on grass inside without crashing, so thinking to the luck just gifted and following Bastian on the run to Masta I was caught off by the greater speed I had approaching the esse and didn't slow down enough to negotiate the first kink and hit the outside rail rebounding on fire across the track and ending on the rail path outside, luckily no one was involved and no train passed to end me  ;D
I had spent all day trekking on the mountains and I was rather tired so my reflexes weren't good and I packed it to have a early dinner and a good white wine glass to cheer at my crash  ;D
Next one!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Phil Thornton on May 21, 2018, 09:48:07 PM +0100
I've loaded the chassis the drivers used into the token calculator spreadsheet.  For the next race the available tokens will be as declared in the table below (the table will also appear in the next race announcement).  The calculated values are automated but selecting the cars is a manual process so please check your tokens to make sure I haven't made a silly error.  There was no token overspend for this round so no one is disqualified.

Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver   TokensStatus
bagrupp
2
Pro
Clive Loynes
20
Pro
Doni Yourth
20
Pro
EvilClive
5
Pro
fpolicardi
18
Am
francesco   
15
Am
Phil Thornton
20
Am
DLogan
18
Am
Gareth
20
Am
Jeep
12
Am
Uli   
5
Pro
FullMetalGasket
20
Pro
Will Tway
10
Pro
Baab
18
Am
Cookie
5
Pro
Samb
10
Pro


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: bagrupp on May 21, 2018, 11:03:04 PM +0100
Nothing more to add. great fight with clive, sorry for your "early" end. I know how it feels coming on that little gras strip here, and flying towards the left-side trees.
I was watching that awaitung you attack and moved to the rigth side so that you only hit me left wheels and luckily i could go on to la source unhurt.

Now i understand your crazy moves with an off-center wheel ;)

Grats to unbeatable axel!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Phil Thornton on May 21, 2018, 11:28:47 PM +0100
There was an error in the results of S32 55GP R10 at Silverstone.  Clive Loynes had a lap dropped by the server.  This has now been corrected which effectively promotes Clive up to 5th position in S32.  Clive has pointed out that this effectively makes him a Pro and makes Bastian an Am (only the top 6 in S32 are designated as Pro drivers). Thanks to Clive for being so honest.  Available tokens for Round 2 have been updated.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: francesco on May 21, 2018, 11:30:32 PM +0100
There is something not clear in the token.How is possible that Bastian have 12 token and Fullmetal 20?They are pro.I'm am and i have only 15 token?This is what is more visible but could be that also other are not correct.

Furthermore Axel am don't seem me correct. ???


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Phil Thornton on May 21, 2018, 11:41:51 PM +0100
There is something not clear in the token.How is possible that Bastian have 12 token and Fullmetal 20?They are pro.I'm am and i have only 15 token?This is what is more visible but could be that also other are not correct.

Furthermore Axel am don't seem me correct. ???
After some discussion I decided that the fairest way to assign Pro status was simply to make the top 6 in the S32 55GP Pro drivers. Everyone else is a Am (I agree there are some fast Ams).

I've been correcting the tokens so please refresh your browser to ensure you are reading the corrected posts.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Clive Loynes on May 22, 2018, 06:42:05 AM +0100
There was an error in the results of S32 55GP R10 at Silverstone.  Clive Loynes had a lap dropped by the server.  This has now been corrected which effectively promotes Clive up to 5th position in S32.  Clive has pointed out that this effectively makes him a Pro and makes Bastian an Am (only the top 6 in S32 are designated as Pro drivers). Thanks to Clive for being so honest.  Available tokens for Round 2 have been updated.

Now that you have the completed results from last season I would have thought that you could safely draw the line at anyone better than 8th to be PRO.  I think that you could also add anyone who scored a podium finish in any of the races.  This would cover the "handicap bandits" who didn't do many races.

To me, there are anomalies in the rest of the list.  From where I usually sit in the pecking order, and an observation of who is usually in front of me, I would have said that Axel, Uli, Will, Carlos and Fulvio should also be PRO.  Probably Jeep too.  ;-)  

Not that it makes a ha'p'orth of difference once we are under way.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: fpolicardi on May 22, 2018, 12:29:23 PM +0100
Now that you have the completed results from last season I would have thought that you could safely draw the line at anyone better than 8th to be PRO.  I think that you could also add anyone who scored a podium finish in any of the races.  This would cover the "handicap bandits" who didn't do many races.

To me, there are anomalies in the rest of the list.  From where I usually sit in the pecking order, and an observation of who is usually in front of me, I would have said that Axel, Uli, Will, Carlos and Fulvio should also be PRO.  Probably Jeep too.  ;-)  

Not that it makes a ha'p'orth of difference once we are under way.

I agree  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Clive Loynes on May 22, 2018, 01:25:05 PM +0100
Are you shure this is the right IP? Looks like a subnet adress...

I got a time out. 60fpsV2newmod?

You can see your IP here on the bottom right  ;)


I think that the problem may have been that the server was still set to Trainer car type.   :oops:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Phil Thornton on May 22, 2018, 11:00:12 PM +0100
Now that you have the completed results from last season I would have thought that you could safely draw the line at anyone better than 8th to be PRO.  I think that you could also add anyone who scored a podium finish in any of the races.  This would cover the "handicap bandits" who didn't do many races.

To me, there are anomalies in the rest of the list.  From where I usually sit in the pecking order, and an observation of who is usually in front of me, I would have said that Axel, Uli, Will, Carlos and Fulvio should also be PRO.  Probably Jeep too.  ;-)  

Not that it makes a ha'p'orth of difference once we are under way.

I agree  :)
It is not too late to adjust this.  Happy to go with the suggestion that anyone who scored a podium finish in Season 32 is a Pro driver. That covers the top 8 plus Cookie, Uli and Will Tway.  That looks pretty fair to me.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Jeep on May 23, 2018, 05:06:30 PM +0100
Now that you have the completed results from last season I would have thought that you could safely draw the line at anyone better than 8th to be PRO.  I think that you could also add anyone who scored a podium finish in any of the races.  This would cover the "handicap bandits" who didn't do many races.

To me, there are anomalies in the rest of the list.  From where I usually sit in the pecking order, and an observation of who is usually in front of me, I would have said that Axel, Uli, Will, Carlos and Fulvio should also be PRO.  Probably Jeep too.  ;-)  

Not that it makes a ha'p'orth of difference once we are under way.

I agree  :)
It is not too late to adjust this.  Happy to go with the suggestion that anyone who scored a podium finish in Season 32 is a Pro driver. That covers the top 8 plus Cookie, Uli and Will Tway.  That looks pretty fair to me.

I have no issues being Pro or Am.

Don't let my showings at Spa worry anyone though. Apart from ba55n Spa is the only track I've actually driven the 55's at and there isn't really any excuse for being slow in the Merc around there. ;)

But if I'm promoted to Pro I really have no issues, I'm here for the women & Beer. :D

TTFN
John.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Phil Thornton on May 23, 2018, 09:17:16 PM +0100
But if I'm promoted to Pro I really have no issues, I'm here for the women & Beer. :D
Can't promise women and beer but I can promise a fair and democratic league, so you are now a Pro :).

Seriously, I've made the changes needed to reflect the driver's opinions as discussed on this thread.  Consequently some drivers have had their available tokens for the next round reduced.  Please check this post (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=14958.msg272778#msg272778).  Hopefully everyone is OK with the changes. I don't want any disgruntled drivers, we are here to have fun.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Clive Loynes on May 24, 2018, 10:49:31 AM +0100
Could be a lot of Gordinis at Pau.   ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - May 20
Post by: Phil Thornton on July 06, 2018, 10:13:55 PM +0100
Mod report published.