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1955 Grand Prix - Round 2 – Pau

The second race in the 1955 Grand Prix series takes us to Pau in the Pyrénées-Atlantiques department of southwestern France. The French Grand Prix was first held at Pau in 1930 on a one-off triangular 9.8-mile (15.8 km) public road circuit. However the circuit we will be using is the "Circuit de Pau-Ville" which is laid out around the town, and is in many ways similar to the more famous Formula One Monaco Grand Prix. We will be using the 1967 version of the track. Formula 1 cars raced at Pau until the 1960s but the circuit is best remembered for the many Formula 2 races that it hosted. Most notably the 1967 race which was won by Jochen Rindt, driving the Brabham BT23. Denny Hulme finished second and Alan Rees third.

Carefully read the rules on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=639&theme=6).

Race list	iGOR
Server	UKGPL_4
IP address	See IGOR
Date	03-06-2018
Track	Pau67 (http://a.bosco.free.fr/gpl/pau67.htm)
Mod	55F1 with 60fpsV2newmod
Damage	PRO long
Race time	~ 21:30 UK time
Qualifying	20:45 UK time - 45 minutes
Race length	28 laps
Replay	here (ftp://ftp.ukgpl9.co.uk:32122/Season33/55GP)

Please restrict chat to emergency messages only including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Password: see above (#post_event_password)
Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=639&theme=6)

Handicapping and chassis allocation.
This season the 1955 Grand Prix cars will be using a token system which allows drivers to purchase any chassis of their choice for a given number of tokens as published on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=639&theme=6). Drivers classed as Amateurs will be allocated an additional 10 tokens.  The token allocation will not be managed in SRou this season so (unlike the 67F1 Works and 67F1 Privateer divisions) the tokens available to each driver will not appear in the championship table (when the mouse pointer is hovered over the driver's total).  Rather, the available tokens will be published in the race announcement. See table below.

Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver	Tokens	Status
bagrupp	2	Pro
Clive Loynes	20	Pro
Doni Yourth	20	Pro
EvilClive	5	Pro
fpolicardi	18	Am
francesco	15	Am
Phil Thornton	20	Am
DLogan	18	Am
Gareth	20	Am
Jeep	12	Am
Uli	5	Pro
FullMetalGasket	20	Pro
Will Tway	10	Pro
Baab	18	Am
Cookie	5	Pro
Samb	10	Pro

After the second lap you'll have to brake with your foot  :o ;D

It's nicer and easier than Monaco.  ;-)

Practice server is up on IGOR if anyone would like to test their connection.

I think qually will be important here. It is going to be hard to get past. Hopefully everyone will be patient and wait for an opening.  :angel:

I think that you have to be patient and wait for the bloke in front to take his own wheels off!  "Openings" are no good as the rascals bounce off the walls and get you!  ;-)

I think that this was my last race at Pau:-
http://www.planet-venom.co.uk/gpl/allegedly/index.html 

It was a BREASTS race.

What does the 5/84 5/384 do to it?  Is this the preferred setting for 60fps?

Hope to get some more time on it this evening, if it is still running.

these are Bandwidth settings:

5 = every 5th frame - so you get the same minimal 12 times per second as with 36fps and 3

I prefer every 4th frame, what gives a saver close driving, because the spikes of the estimated driver behaviour are smaller...
But the replays become 20% bigger  ;D

84/384 are the paket sizes -> how many cars in front or behind

Thanks Axel, I thought that I had seen every 4th frame more often.

It's the same game as with 60fps,
some people still think it is "safer" to still use 36fps even though the Win95/98 PCs GPL was made for no longer exist
and the i-net has also made some steps forward...

Dean Logan tried hosting with every 2nd frame and it worked without problems! 

It would appear that the iGOR race list is down again.

It's back again but an IP address might be useful. 

I think that the driver for still using 36fps is that not all the client PCs can handle the 60fps.  As you know I was in that state until very recently.

Great read  :thumbup1:

Practice server back on IGOR just in case anyone would like some praccy.  I'd be surprised if there are many UK based drivers on the server this afternoon. We have some unusually lovely weather here at the moment.

I've got to pop out for a couple of hours but I'll be back home in time to start the race server.

I finished the race but the server threw me out before I could take a replay.

Good fun John.

Yes Clive, exactly the same here, I thought I had accidentally hit the wrong button to exit the car. :( I have no idea how I kept ahead of you, I think I know the name of every hay bale at Virage de Lycee intimately. A lot of "Pass the brown corduroy trousers" moments.

TTFN
John.

Same thing happened here. :(

AFAIK, I was 6th, ~30 secs behind Clive, about to be lapped (I think), ahead of Doni (who had been), fwiw.

edit: I see someone got a replay, but from before I finished (I did, Scout's honour).

Don't know what happened at the end.  The server saved the replay and the results seem to be correct. I was watching the race (after having blown my engine with 2 laps to go) and there was only Dean to finish when a few people discoed.

The race for me was a cock-up. I decided I needed a little more steering lock so I made the change at the end of practice but unfortunately I went the wrong way. Ended up with not enough lock to get around the hairpin! Only way I could get round was to mount the pavement and bounce off the wall!  Won't be doing that again.  Managed to salvage a few points so it wasn't a complete disaster.  ::)

I know :). I watched you finish  :thumbup1:

Grats to Evil, Uli and Tim.  Fantastic times.

I qualified 5th and finished 5th.  I made a slight error at T1 on lap 2? which let John pounce going into T2.  Very brave and very fair!

I spent some time looking at the rear end of his Vanwall but then he seemed to find some extra pace and cleared off up the road.  I think that he must have hit something because he fell back towards me over the closing stages.  Perhaps wounded.  ;D

It meant that I had just the race that I wanted at a place like this, with nobody in sight in either direction!  ;D

Anyway, I have a stack of Thornton Dollars to spend at IMS!

I was racing under special license as it is my wife's birthday so very pleased to have finished and bagged a few points.



 

Sorry for no show last night, but I had to play with my folk group out of town and was back home too late.
Grats to finishers

I've loaded the chassis the drivers used into the token calculator spreadsheet.  For the next race the available tokens will be as declared in the table below (the table will also appear in the next race announcement).  The calculated values are automated but selecting the cars is a manual process so please check your tokens to make sure I haven't made a silly error.  There was no token overspend for this round so no one is disqualified.

Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver	Tokens	Status
bagrupp	12	Pro
Clive Loynes	30	Pro
Doni Yourth	30	Pro
EvilClive	10	Pro
fpolicardi	18	Am
francesco	15	Am
Phil Thornton	25	Am
DLogan	16	Am
Gareth	20	Am
Jeep	12	Am
Uli	10	Pro
FullMetalGasket	30	Pro
Will Tway	10	Pro
Baab	18	Am
Cookie	5	Pro
Samb	10	Pro

Grats Evil and Tim and all finishers
nice track, nice race
I'm very happy to finish
cu all next, maybe in Indy
looking forward :)

I was not expecting to take the win here, especially in the Connaught!!
A week away at Centre Parcs with the grandchildren is NOT good preparation and with only a few tokens left I decided that the Gordini was a challenge too far ( I have not driven the little French car at all), so blew my last 5 tokens on the Connaught and hoped just to survive and score a few points.

Quite a surprise to find myself amongst the front 2 rows in quali running on full race fuel... so I figured that this was one track where a proper low fuel qualifying run was worth a shot  ;)  Front row alongside Tim and his rocket powered Gordini :o :o...how many of these guys are sandbagging??
I was praying that he would have trouble getting his car off the line quickly, which is the curse of the Gordini, so I was able to take the lead into T1 and give myself a clear track to play on. I pulled a small gap before Tim got the rubber band fully wound up in his car and so was able to control the gap for the first half of the race until he dropped back. The biggest problem after that was staying focused and I lost count of how many times I hit the bales at T3!!
Uli was a safe distance behind in 2nd place and provided that I did not make any big errors I felt that I could keep him far enough away to be safe. ...... until I looked at the fuel tank with 8 laps to go  :o :o :o
 It showed just 2.5 galls?? Was that enough?? The last laps were a case of short shifting and avoiding max revs, but it did not appear to affect my laptimes too much, at least not enough for Uli to catch me.
So, a win that I was not expecting around a track like this.  :)

Grats to Uli and Tim, plus all those who survived until the finish.

Well A totally unexpected result I was thinking the field would be full of Gordinis and Connaughts (Which it generally was). So decided to spent a few more coins on a Vanwall in the expectancy (Hope) that having disc brakes they might be easier to keep under control as they "Should" cool quicker. Not sure if that is the case but if it is then thank God I didn't take something with drums. By lap 22 I was only using them in anger at 2 corners using quick dabs and the gears to control entry speed everywhere else. By the end of the race I was on 1st name terms with most of the bales at Virage du Lycee and although I couldn't feel anything drastically wrong my later lap times in part due to brakes fell away quite dramatically so I think I was carrying some damage.

It all seemed under control up to lap 20 and had pulled a few 100yds on Clive and was still seeing glimpses of FMG ahead on some parts of the track.

Qualified  7th (Really 6th as Dean seemed to have a problem and started from the back). The start seemed very good and when Samb spun on lap 1 I was up to 5th. Onto Lap 2 and although the replay doesn't make it look wild from my cockpit Clive clipped the inside curve of T1 and went very sideways taking curb on the outside as he recovered. I floored it and stuffed it up the inside then prayed the brakes would come to my rescue. Fortunately they did and Clive was aware enough to see I was there and I was up to 4th.

I was able to slowly pull away over the following 15 laps or so and then after a few rookie mistakes which I over used my brakes trying to recover Clive began to come back at me at an alarming rate, this combined with the previously mentioned excursions into the hay lost me even more time. Finally with a lap to go my mirrors were full of his Gordini. I have not been so glad to see the flag for quite a few races. I don't think I would have kept him behind for more than 1 more lap.

Congrats to the podium, Commiserations to the retirements. and Thanks Clive for a great race, no time to rest in that one.

TTFN
John.
   

Nothing more to say then Wheel problems and a disco in lap 1 :-[

Unlucky mate, but you did earn 10 tokens for starting so you will have 22 to spend on a car for the next race. You can even afford a Merc SL. Somehow I think there will be a few of those on the grid!

Mod report published.

Good call, thanks.