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NON CHAMPIONSHIP Special Test event - Free Sim! Free cars! Free track! Sillhouettes@Portimao

Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Practice: 19:45 (30 mins)
Qual 2: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30 (30 mins)

Cars allowed:  Sillhouette
Track:  Portimao
Time of Day Setting: 13:00
Weather: Dry

Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: None required


Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see
cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules especially the
rules about in-game chat messages.
(3) You will need to install Race Room Racing Experience from Steam, and have the relevant Track Packs for this series
(4) Please exercise caution when pitting as some tracks have a speed limit.

(5) Please follow the SROUK guidelines for using kerbs etc. Please keep 2 wheels on the track surface (kerbs do not count as track surface)
Excessive cutting of corners will seen as cheating and the results may be altered to reflect this.

Should be a fun combo

Yep, it is.  ;D

Stephen did a series with these a while back, and it worked well.

This is maybe the final non champ race. I am in Birmingham next week, then doing a sprint at Snetterton 100 the following weekend
so will have limited test time. But I would like to start 2 or 3 new series the week after, might be a bit ambitious, but would be good
if not I will put on another fun race with "something" "somewhere" I could do with some comments about which of the test races
you would like to see as a series? So far, I am thinking the single seaters didn't get much love. The DTM92/Touring Classics
and the Gr5/GTO combos are probably going to get a series each. But I can run 3 series if other cars appeal? The Fabcar Porka perhaps? these Sillhouette maybe?

This is intentionally an easy event for people who don't have R3E to have a go at ZERO Expense!
If anyone wants to see what it's like, download the game http://game.raceroom.com/ (http://game.raceroom.com/)
The cars and the track come with the free install, so just install it through Steam, and join in  :fencing:

I like the sound of both a combined GR5/GTO and DTM92/Touring Classics series. For a third series, what about using the cars left out of those groups - ie alternating between single make Fabcars one week, and Nissans the next? Limited variety admittedly, but these are both fun cars to drive and a shame not to use them at all.

Agreed Frex.

The silent Italian vote (based on when they come to play) is the same.
The Skyline from Touring Classics might yet be allowed with it's pals, not sure about that
I can't decide whether the Volvo is too fast, or Picnic is  ::) Don't want to take it out
or there is little point in the merger. I expect Gavino would be up front in any of the cars
so it's more driver than car I think. We did find that the Skyline was a bit faster than the others
previously, and I don't like that handling of it, it doesn't feel quite connected to the road somehow
rather like some of the standard cars in AC don't feel right. So I am reluctant to give it it's own
series, the Fab Porka is worth it though.

Don't confuse it with the WTCC where life was fairly easy, I don't think I had quite the same level of success with the older one. However I'll probably randomly pick something else the 1st night of the next series and run with that.

I enjoy the Silhouettes and would like to try the DTM/touring classics but can only race every other Thursday night (at best) due to real life getting in the way

The more the merrier Stephen, as always, please come along when you can  :thumbup1:

I used to use the Touring Classics Volvo in previous series, and I was maybe slightly quicker
in it than in some of the other cars, but I don't remember winning much  ::) So I think it's
more driver than car.

So far it is looking like 3 series:

1: DTM92/Touring classics  (- the Nissan probably)
2: Gr5/GTO ( - the Fabcar Porsche 935)
3: Fabcar Porche 935

I really like the Sillhouettes, for a fantasy car they are very well done.
But I like to keep with the Thursday Historic feel as much as I can.
We could use them for a future series for sure.

Are we happy that the times are similar if we are combining two classes together? GTO and grp5 doesnt sound like being similar speeds tbh.

Perhaps for aliens who can get more out of them, but for me the times are very similar
I will do a few laps in all to check though.

EDIT:
Not an exhaustive test, but, I tried the Nissan 300ZX from GTO, and the Capri from Gr5, round Red Bull Ring
and I get exactly the same times (low 1:31) within 2 tenths in both cars after 6 laps or so. Some cars may be quicker
at some tracks, and some people get better times in some cars than other people, but for me it's close enough for our purposes.
Perhaps I might run it as we drop the most popular or highest points score after each race in Gr5/GTO, and DTM92/Touring Classics

Probably will be 6 events each for the 3 championships, which will leave more than one car for
the final in each series. (Except Fabcar...)

Not a fan of forcing people into cars that they then struggle to drive. Especially when your combining classes to open up the choice.

Sure, it is just an idea if one of the cars proves to be too fast for the others
I am not expecting to need to do it. We can always just drop one car from the list if required.

I can probably reset the server at 19:45 (ish) but I am on the world's slowest free wifi, which drops every few minutes.
Assuming I can, please could someone join the server at 19:45 to start the clocks? last week I struggled to get the clocks
right as people had joined to practice before 19:45, which started the session clocks early. Is a pain, but it's the way
the server works.

If it helps I can restart the server and join at 7:45PM

That would be great if you can  :thumbup1:

Will do :)

Just turned PC on and there is a 900+MB update downloading now. Server needs an upgrade too. Will be up shortly

Pete, what is current status I can't open my steam account even!!

Sorry folks I give up been 20 mins trying but unable to connect to steam, seem to locked into a loop.

One last try to get onto the server before I shut down and do something more entertaining.  ::)

You did appear at the start Bill so I assume Steam sorted itself out for you.

These cars aren't really my cup of tea, too easy to lose and I can only catch it about 50% of the time. Then the tyres, I guess, are too hot and I just fall off at every corner  ::)

Yes but with about 3 minutes of qualifying to get settled down I didn't have any chance in race and stuffed my car into a barrier wrecking it on the first lap!

They do break away quite suddenly near the limit don't they.. I think this is one of those car groups that benefits more than others from some work on the setup, particularly on the dampers. I think I have the Cougar about where i want it, so I just tend to stick with that.

Had some fun early on, but Eck was too quick and consistent - congrats! Thanks all.

I always seem to find dropping the bump dampers a couple of clicks gains a bit more grip back. I always use TC to help stop the car sliding too much.

I don't know which dampers to reduce, is it rebound or the other one? Or both? I think I reduced rebound, softened the rear springs and reduced the rear ride height a couple of clicks. Can't say I noticed any difference. I always forget a car might have TC, no idea where that was set.

Depends what you want to achieve..

For me the Cougar handles actually really well, with good braking and turn in, and lots of mid-turn grip. It's only vice is that tendency to suddenly unload at the rear on corner exit. This could be countered by stiffening front rebound damping (a lot) and maybe also softening rear bump (a bit). You could also try softening rear springs and arb, but this may (or may not) blunt the turn in somewhat. I prefer just the damper changes, and also didn't really need any TC - although I did put it on level 2 (one click above zero) just for a little extra confidence.

That's all just my (probably worthless) opinion however - ymmv.