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Title: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Mark J on September 20, 2018, 09:42:17 AM +0100
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1890/29862177877_d818a8ef1d_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MuPt6P)
Championship Standings (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=656)

Practise: 19:30 (45 mins)
Qual: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30  2 x (20 minutes)

Cars allowed:
All TCR mod cars (Audi TT excluded)

You will require the following Mod's installed on your PC:

TCR Mod (Equalised)
https://mega.nz/#!HzRWwaAA!nVPErhfkbjC_jzjzzURncwToxYi7UAbWqI5xvaTdJOM (https://mega.nz/#!HzRWwaAA!nVPErhfkbjC_jzjzzURncwToxYi7UAbWqI5xvaTdJOM)

Track: Oulton Park (Fosters layout)
https://actrackrebootproject.wixsite.com/ac-track-re-boot/oulton-park (https://actrackrebootproject.wixsite.com/ac-track-re-boot/oulton-park)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1891/44749312042_99b29a79f3_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bbkVqN)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Weather: Cloudy
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: normal

Laptimes:-
stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat (http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat)

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=100
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=0
SESSION_TRANSFER=N/a

Damage: 70%

Password: see above (#post_event_password)

PLP App - Not used in this series. Cutting will be monitored on replay and penalties issued for excessive cutting.

Notes:
(1)PLP App - Not used in this event. Cutting will be monitored on replay and penalties issued for excessive cutting.
(2)Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules especially the rules about in-game chat messages.
(3) Door rubbing is acceptable, blatant punting is not !  Expect to receive a penalty if caught or reported.
(4) Please follow the SROUK guidelines for using kerbs etc. Please keep 2 wheels on the track surface (kerbs do not count as track surface)
Excessive cutting of corners will seen as cheating and the results may be altered to reflect this.
5) DO NOT leave the server at end of race 1, as the grid will hopefully re-organise into reverse grid for race 2.


 


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: spanner on September 20, 2018, 12:33:23 PM +0100
How are we managing cars and skin choices? I'm going with the Golf.

Sorry, practicalities!


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Mark J on September 20, 2018, 01:34:05 PM +0100
How are we managing cars and skin choices? I'm going with the Golf.

Sorry, practicalities!

you are the first to ask for skins but it did cross my mind last night. No reason not to have a skinpack if needed  :) submit any skins to the TCR thread and we can accumulate them into a pack if enough.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: spanner on September 20, 2018, 07:47:55 PM +0100
I was just talking about picking the skins included in the mod, Not extra ones.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: picnic on September 21, 2018, 07:02:15 PM +0100
Practice server should be up, I've set the weather to "Mid-Clouds". Please shout if something's not right.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Baikal on September 22, 2018, 03:50:59 AM +0100
Gloomy english morning and MiniGodzilla test lap  :laugh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AednsIw8kI


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Mark J on September 22, 2018, 10:03:28 AM +0100
Nice lap Baikal, good sense of speed and the engine sounds spot on  8) liking this


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Jeffrey on September 22, 2018, 12:33:10 PM +0100
I can't make this one, so if you could leave me off the list this week, that'd be appreciated ;).


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on September 23, 2018, 10:35:54 PM +0100
Never thought i would get excited for a FWD car race.. ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8FSnzI_6pU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8FSnzI_6pU)


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: nfsw55 on September 23, 2018, 11:42:11 PM +0100
Advise to everybody: Don't hit the walls with these cars ;D (At least) the Alfa rolls over very easy


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Baikal on September 24, 2018, 12:54:50 AM +0100
1 question. Is the each wide exit ( on left side of 1st turn exit) will be monitoring by referee in Q and R in replay and will be punished? Or we all can go wide on paving stone here? This wide exit cost some seconds  ;D btw. I'd prefer not to build a headache to referee here and allow to all to go wider than white lines in this place as track converters - moders allowed us..
Do not love such things in tracks convers building  >:(  That's another one argument why i prefer Kunos laserscans... ;)

Wow Stefan! Good pace! Like a boss ( Fabri)  :thumbup2:


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on September 24, 2018, 08:54:49 AM +0100
Thanks, these cars are a lot of fun. This vid above shows nicely how not to exit T1.  ;D
Rules here are two wheels on the black stuff. This particular turn will be a b**ch to admin though...


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Jeffrey on September 24, 2018, 09:02:43 AM +0100
Thanks, these cars are a lot of fun. This vid above shows nicely how not to exit T1.  ;D
Rules here are two wheels on the black stuff. This particular turn will be a b**ch to admin though...

There are rules in touring car series?  :P


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Mark J on September 24, 2018, 10:00:06 AM +0100
I think turn 1 is safe to use the outer strip, they all use it in every category, even on my trackday we were allowed to run wide there. But the car can get unsettled or spit you into a spin so be warned! And no staying wide with the foot planted for the downhill run, you have to be back on the tarmac before it reverts to grass, even if it means giving up a position because someone was neater than you and gets the inside line.

Nice close times already qually positions will become important  :)


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on September 24, 2018, 10:08:25 AM +0100
Thanks, these cars are a lot of fun. This vid above shows nicely how not to exit T1.  ;D
Rules here are two wheels on the black stuff. This particular turn will be a b**ch to admin though...

There are rules in touring car series?  :P


Ehmm nope, you are right. This is touring car racing, anything goes! Load front missiles  :angel:


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Jeffrey on September 24, 2018, 10:22:59 AM +0100
How many cars will be reversed?


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Baikal on September 24, 2018, 01:04:25 PM +0100
How many cars will be reversed?
( Thinking deep  :nuke:)
Based on the traditionally high culture of driving UKAC participants, the complexity of overtaking, the most interesting and fair would be a complete  (full) reversal of the grid with the expected total number of 12-13 participants. But for a greater interest in the overall high place  I propose (for the third time  :)) to give additional 3 points for the pole in the qually , for 2 place-2, for 3-1. ( i remember- Mark said is that difficult to include these additional Q points to UKAC table system, but anyway it should be possible manually, IMHO)
If  grid will contain more than 12-13  :o and "unknown" pilots- it's better to have , for example, first 10 reverse grid.   :angel-wings:
PS. Mark, did you PM Maikel and others?  :)


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Mark J on September 24, 2018, 01:28:13 PM +0100
I don’t know how easy/hard it is for Pete to set the reverse grid on the server. For the sake of a few cars I would reverse all if that makes life easier, but ask Pete!
I asked Dave Gymer about qualifying points and at present they cannot he given automatically, but he says they can be done manually via penalty points system  :-\. Again, if that’s a big faff I probably haven’t got time for it, but if it’s easy then we can try. Are we that bothered? Qually is more important to all now anyway as the laptimes are so close.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: picnic on September 24, 2018, 01:34:42 PM +0100
I thought we were doing 10 places and that's how the server is currently configured. Never tried but, I assume, if we set the number to be the same as the entry list size it would reverse all cars on the grid. I'm pretty sure that once the event has started you won't be able to dynamically change it unless there is some magic you can type in to the chat window.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Baikal on September 24, 2018, 01:44:15 PM +0100
Qually is more important to all now anyway as the laptimes are so close.
Less important than usually because we have the 2nd race, when the 1st race winner will have biger problems to get good summ of points than pilot in middle  ;)
Additional points for Q will bring more satisfaction for true fast pilots, IMHO.
For me, as to slow pilot, its better not to have additional points in aliens Q  ;D But i trying to think some wider here  :)
If its additional Q points not very interestiong to fast guys- i will calm here easyly  :)
PS For server man its very easy to set any reverse positions. Its just a 1 value change question. But Pete is right- NO chance to change it when event starts.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Mark J on September 24, 2018, 02:04:01 PM +0100
If it’s set as ten, leave it as ten as that’s what Baikal wanted originally.  :)

This is how Dave explained the qually points:-

 There's no currently provision for Q points but as a stopgap you could use the court system to hand out 'points penalties' using negative numbers to effectively give out bonus manually. If you're determined to do that several series running it's probably better to modify the system to cope - perhaps trial it for a season and see how it goes?


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Baikal on September 24, 2018, 02:11:48 PM +0100
This is how Dave explained the qually points:-

 There's no currently provision for Q points but as a stopgap you could use the court system to hand out 'points penalties' using negative numbers to effectively give out bonus manually. If you're determined to do that several series running it's probably better to modify the system to cope - perhaps trial it for a season and see how it goes?
Roger that. Now is too difficult. I'm shut up  :) Time will show what is better for pilots  :)


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Jeffrey on September 24, 2018, 03:55:43 PM +0100
IMO no points for qually,  as that will probably boost certain drivers. I think it's only viable if ballast was used.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Baikal on September 24, 2018, 05:11:53 PM +0100
Tyres is very interesting  :) I've got an Outer surface temperature more than 150 celsius very first time in AC in track and got my app red extreme O-temp indicator work!  :o. Was need some cooling it and the all stabilized again  ;) Tyre core temp in left front tyre is stabil 116-118C. One of the best tyres sense in AC. Respect Shaun Clarke ! :)


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Mark J on September 24, 2018, 06:36:10 PM +0100
How are you measuring tyre temps? I have no idea what pressures they should be or whether they are over heating etc  :-\


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: nfsw55 on September 24, 2018, 06:44:21 PM +0100
How are you measuring tyre temps? I have no idea what pressures they should be or whether they are over heating etc  :-\
Default ingame app "tyres" shows everything you need to know
blue = tires too cold/pressure too low
green = perfect temps/perfect pressure
red = tires too hot/ pressure too high


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Mark J on September 24, 2018, 07:14:16 PM +0100
Ha that easy  :laugh: I haven’t used it for so long I had forgotten it, as I use a third party tyre app normally  :wetfish:
Thanks  :)


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Baikal on September 24, 2018, 09:05:14 PM +0100
How are you measuring tyre temps? I have no idea what pressures they should be or whether they are over heating etc  :-\
I have some apps , main of this is my own ( termometers, colored bars, rounds, squares, points). Like a child  ;D
Ideal pressure
front-31 psi hot.
rear-30 psi hot.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Mark J on September 24, 2018, 09:24:53 PM +0100
 thanks for tyre tips Alexey  :)

Nice to see 5 drivers on the practise server this evening  :thumbup1: 

lesser spotted Syd Drake and Matt were there, will they join us for the race?


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Mark J on September 24, 2018, 09:28:03 PM +0100
Drivers list so far for Rounds 1&2 at Oulton Park

MJ - Alfa #36
Postal - Alfa #38
Baikal - Subaru #111
nfsw - Alfa #4
Jeff - #7 Honda Civic Castrol absent
Picnic - Subaru #32
SRW - Ford Focus
Fabri - Golf (leopard)
Spanner - Golf (yellow) - plain yellow?!
Shark - Adam Morgan Mercedes 33
FMG - SEAT Leon #7 James_west
Matteo - TBC absent
Frex - Opel #44
Bob - Honda Civic #26 mugen
Phspok - Moffat Mercedes #16

Any new drivers, shout up here so I can try and get you added to the driver entry list before wedsnesday, but failing that you should be able to turn up on the night, just might not get the skin or car you want if someone else takes it first!  :)


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: phspok on September 24, 2018, 10:00:53 PM +0100
Had a few laps at Oulton, these are very good, handle similar to the R3E 2018 ones, but these sound better.  :scooter:
It's this or the Anglia/Mini/Imp at Silverstone tommorow. Prefer Oulton to the short Silver, and I have been at a family
wedding a couple of miles away from here this weekend, so good chance, as I may not be last for a change  ::)


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Mark J on September 25, 2018, 10:13:14 AM +0100
so any setup tips for driving these fwd tin-tops? i seem to be slipping down the pace order  :(

do they like more front brake bias? less power diff?

@Matt...so does that mean you are racing with us this week? will get you added to the driver list if so. Will need your car choice too.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Bob on September 25, 2018, 11:34:28 AM +0100
put me down for the race in the audi tt not fast but will make numbers up :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Jeffrey on September 25, 2018, 11:52:05 AM +0100
put me down for the race in the audi tt not fast but will make numbers up :thumbup1:

Cars allowed:
All TCR mod cars (Audi TT excluded)

 :P


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Bob on September 25, 2018, 12:05:25 PM +0100
Sorry will choose another


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Bob on September 25, 2018, 12:55:21 PM +0100
take the honda civic any number


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Mark J on September 25, 2018, 05:40:18 PM +0100
take the honda civic any number

Put you in the No.26 Mugen Bob  :)

is Matt racing?

14 drivers signed up now, 12 racing tomorrow eve  :)


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Baikal on September 25, 2018, 05:52:30 PM +0100
so any setup tips for driving these fwd tin-tops? i seem to be slipping down the pace order  :(

do they like more front brake bias? less power diff?

I just increased front camber up to -5 to take maximum grip in turns, also no less power diff!  Use max ( imho)
Main thing is practice there. Its will learn you imho  :) Rear winds for now is 1. But continue to search my way here. Very interesting car, good responsible  to tuning you want.  :)
How Fabri ans nfsw doing 1st turn so fast- i dont know . Need advance from these guys  :)


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: phspok on September 25, 2018, 06:14:59 PM +0100
Yes please Mark. Merc A45 no 33 please


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Mark J on September 25, 2018, 07:35:55 PM +0100
Yes please Mark. Merc A45 no 33 please

already taken by shark, will put you in the blue merc No.16


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: phspok on September 25, 2018, 08:23:41 PM +0100
ok


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Mark J on September 25, 2018, 11:05:53 PM +0100
REMEMBER GUYS - the event is two 20 minute races so don’t leave the server after race 1  :)

2nd Race is reverse grid  :o the fast guys will have to be patient and pick their passes.  :angel:

Rubbing is racing in touring cars but rear end punts or heavy side impacts that cause incidents will create penalties.

Take care exiting the pit lane during qualifying, use your mirrors and wait for cars on a hot lap to pass before exiting as you will be in their way down the hill.

Standing start! Beware cold tyres and brakes, especially down the hill on lap 1.

 :detective: :smartass:


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Sutol on September 26, 2018, 10:32:29 AM +0100
Hi All, not been on for ages, forgotten how to do everything but i was hoping to join you tonight in the Civic. Won't be offended if I'm too late.

Cheers Chris


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on September 26, 2018, 12:48:17 PM +0100
Hi there Chris. Good to see you back. I remember you being about my pace, so you should be good to go. I am sure MJ can squeeze you in.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: FullMetalGasket on September 26, 2018, 12:53:49 PM +0100
I've just spent the last 3 hours rebuilding my pedals (You honestly wouldn't believe how much dog hair was in there! I had to empty the mini-vac part way through), I also cleaned up the pots at the same time as both my clutch and my throttle have been playing up increasingly over the last few months.
I now actually have a reliable full throttle (Missing since the end of the Group C series) and can remove the huge dead zone I had to introduce a year back on the clutch to get around it's random spiking.

Happy days ;D


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Baikal on September 26, 2018, 12:54:01 PM +0100
0000000.033
To come into another dimension for Fabri  :eek:


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Baikal on September 26, 2018, 01:09:18 PM +0100
REMEMBER GUYS - the event is two 20 minute races so don’t leave the server after race 1  :)

2nd Race is reverse grid  :o the fast guys will have to be patient and pick their passes.  :angel:

Rubbing is racing in touring cars but rear end punts or heavy side impacts that cause incidents will create penalties.

Take care exiting the pit lane during qualifying, use your mirrors and wait for cars on a hot lap to pass before exiting as you will be in their way down the hill.

Standing start! Beware cold tyres and brakes, especially down the hill on lap 1.

 :detective: :smartass:

I confirm - the 2 first laps after start containing  a lot o surprises. ;) Highly recommend to test start procedure and first laps like we've done with nfsw on today's morning  ;)


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Mark J on September 26, 2018, 01:18:58 PM +0100
i did wonder whether to use tyre warmers as these cars are pretty awful on their cold tyres under braking for the first lap, but dont think they allow it in the real world so no reason why we should. So just use a bit of sense for at least half a lap, no divebombing heroes from the back please as it will cause carnage with a tight pack of cars. Remember there is always race2 reverse grid!

@ Chris, welcome back matey.  :) Depending on whether Pete can edit the driver entry file i sent him, to put you in a civic in time, as i have no access to my file or skin folders today  :-\  otherwise you should be able to join and take one of the blank entries we allowed for hopefully.

Think we have 16 drivers signed up and 14 racing tonight  :thumbup1:

MJ - Alfa #36
Postal - Alfa #38
Baikal - Subaru #111
nfsw - Alfa #4
Jeff - #7 Honda Civic Castrol absent
Picnic - Subaru #32
SRW - Ford Focus
Fabri - Golf (leopard)
Spanner - Golf (yellow) - plain yellow?!
Shark - Adam Morgan Mercedes 33
FMG - SEAT Leon #7 James_west
Matteo - TBC absent
Frex - Opel #44
Bob - Honda Civic #26 mugen
Phspok - Moffat Mercedes #16
Sutol - Honda Civic #TBC

ps Syd Drake has been on the practise server last two eves, but not stated he wants to race? anyone know if he does? He might not have read the series thread.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Baikal on September 26, 2018, 01:34:20 PM +0100
Mark, no warmers!
Tyres are still very predictable  in first laps too! But need to be informed ( or managed brake ballance in 2 first laps)  ;)
No warmers.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Jeffrey on September 26, 2018, 01:51:13 PM +0100
Mark, no warmers!
Tyres are still very predictable  in first laps too! But need to be informed ( or managed brake ballance in 2 first laps)  ;)
No warmers.

Tyres warm up pretty quickly too with these things, heck, my tires are overheating at the end of lap 2  :P


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: picnic on September 26, 2018, 02:54:08 PM +0100
@ Chris, welcome back matey.  :) Depending on whether Pete can edit the driver entry file i sent him, to put you in a civic in time, as i have no access to my file or skin folders today  :-\  otherwise you should be able to join and take one of the blank entries we allowed for hopefully.
I'll try and sort that.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: frex on September 26, 2018, 03:04:35 PM +0100
Sorry chaps, something has come up and probably going to be too late to join in tonight. (Ok just to join for the second race if I am back in time for that one?).


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Mark J on September 26, 2018, 03:38:13 PM +0100
assume you can Frex, but maybe Pete can confirm if that causes any problems? doubt it will be a problem as you will be listed in the driver file anyway. Though it might put you on Pole for race 2?  :-\

@Pete, thanks for putting Sutol in  :)

and dont worry, there will not be tyre warmers! though i found the tyres (or brakes) pretty 'un-predictable' for the first few corners, especially downhill, where it tries to pitch you off into the scenery.  :o


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: picnic on September 26, 2018, 03:51:26 PM +0100
@Pete, thanks for putting Sutol in  :)
It's the 07 Castrol skin. I'll email the finished file later.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: spanner on September 26, 2018, 04:50:22 PM +0100
I'm not going to be able to make it tonight, food poisoning at the weekend as wiped me out. I managed to put some laps in off line before you had the server up and was doing 1.00.5 so looks quite good compared to stracker. wish i could be there and in a fit state!


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: frex on September 26, 2018, 05:27:10 PM +0100
assume you can Frex, but maybe Pete can confirm if that causes any problems? doubt it will be a problem as you will be listed in the driver file anyway. Though it might put you on Pole for race 2?  :-\

Ah right. I'll stay away then unless I can get on before the first race. Have a good one.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: picnic on September 26, 2018, 05:28:23 PM +0100
Sorry I don't now Frex, try it and see!


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Mark J on September 26, 2018, 05:50:15 PM +0100
assume you can Frex, but maybe Pete can confirm if that causes any problems? doubt it will be a problem as you will be listed in the driver file anyway. Though it might put you on Pole for race 2?  :-\

Ah right. I'll stay away then unless I can get on before the first race. Have a good one.

no need to stay away. Will put you missing race 1 down to a technical issue with the car  ;)

Sorry you cant make it Spanner


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Baikal on September 26, 2018, 05:55:13 PM +0100
Frex can connect to server, if he  was late to start 1st race, but must to NOT to do any lap before the second race starts as usually way. In this case he will have last position in 2nd race start.
(c) Kunos  :)
BUT for join this must to be set in server.cfg:
[RACE]
IS_OPEN=2                  ; 0 = no join, 1 = free join, 2 = free join until 20 seconds to the green light



Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Mark J on September 26, 2018, 06:07:52 PM +0100
After race 1 do we all just stay in the pits while the server does its thing?


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Baikal on September 26, 2018, 06:12:25 PM +0100
After race 1 do we all just stay in the pits while the server does its thing?
Yes. As usually. You can change setup in this time too , comms with chat , do pipi and other  things ))) But do not exit from session!


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Syd Drake on September 26, 2018, 06:32:51 PM +0100
i did wonder whether to use tyre warmers as these cars are pretty awful on their cold tyres under braking for the first lap, but dont think they allow it in the real world so no reason why we should. So just use a bit of sense for at least half a lap, no divebombing heroes from the back please as it will cause carnage with a tight pack of cars. Remember there is always race2 reverse grid!

@ Chris, welcome back matey.  :) Depending on whether Pete can edit the driver entry file i sent him, to put you in a civic in time, as i have no access to my file or skin folders today  :-\  otherwise you should be able to join and take one of the blank entries we allowed for hopefully.

Think we have 16 drivers signed up and 14 racing tonight  :thumbup1:

MJ - Alfa #36
Postal - Alfa #38
Baikal - Subaru #111
nfsw - Alfa #4
Jeff - #7 Honda Civic Castrol absent
Picnic - Subaru #32
SRW - Ford Focus
Fabri - Golf (leopard)
Spanner - Golf (yellow) - plain yellow?!
Shark - Adam Morgan Mercedes 33
FMG - SEAT Leon #7 James_west
Matteo - TBC absent
Frex - Opel #44
Bob - Honda Civic #26 mugen
Phspok - Moffat Mercedes #16
Sutol - Honda Civic #TBC

ps Syd Drake has been on the practise server last two eves, but not stated he wants to race? anyone know if he does? He might not have read the series thread.

Yes, I want to race. I thought it was a open series, what else do I need to know?


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: phspok on September 26, 2018, 07:02:47 PM +0100
MJ will want to know what car you want to use and it's number.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: picnic on September 26, 2018, 07:13:01 PM +0100
Getting a bit late now but there are free cars but it'll be pot luck which you get Syd. You need to let us know if you want a particular model/skin.

I think there are 11 free slots for non registered drivers tonight


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Syd Drake on September 26, 2018, 07:14:19 PM +0100
I'll drive Audi RS3. Not sure about numbers and how you choose that? No skin, just whatever is default for it. I think it was yellow when I was on the server/


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Sutol on September 26, 2018, 07:16:04 PM +0100
thx Mark/Pete for sorting me out. Last raced 6 months ago so I'm going to try and take it easy, especially not hitting anyone ::)


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Baikal on September 26, 2018, 07:25:38 PM +0100
For future use: It would be good to have an info about closing race registration in 24 hours before the race in 1st post.  :)
BTW This moment Mark is driving a car going home in real and can't do anything with entry_list before 15 minutes to the oficial session starts.. 


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Syd Drake on September 26, 2018, 07:34:26 PM +0100
Does that mean I can't race tonight or?


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Mark J on September 26, 2018, 07:42:01 PM +0100
Yes you can race Syd, join as early as you can to get the car type you want as there are limited spares available  :)


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Syd Drake on September 26, 2018, 07:44:19 PM +0100
OK, thanks :)


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: KDiesel on September 26, 2018, 07:49:59 PM +0100
I like to sign in Alfa #61 please.

K


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Mark J on September 26, 2018, 07:53:14 PM +0100
Hi KD, welcome to UKAC, unfortunately you are too late to pick a particular skin but you should be able to join the server to race in an Alfa.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: L4de on September 26, 2018, 07:58:13 PM +0100
I like to sign in.Is it ok?


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Jeffrey on September 26, 2018, 08:03:19 PM +0100
I like to sign in.Is it ok?

You can join the server, but car choice might be limited to what is left.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: frex on September 26, 2018, 08:59:19 PM +0100
no need to stay away. Will put you missing race 1 down to a technical issue with the car  ;)

Thanks Mark, but not going to make it now. See you at the next one.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: frex on September 26, 2018, 09:01:06 PM +0100
I like to sign in Alfa #61 please.

K

I like to sign in.Is it ok?

Hey, Kimi and Lade. Nice to see you here.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Baikal on September 26, 2018, 09:28:18 PM +0100
It was just so cooooool! Very first race in this cars  ::) Need to relacs first ))) Thank all guys. In overall it was great, IMHO  ;)
Onboards vids some later  :P
PS Welcome aboard, Kimi and Jari!  :)


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: phspok on September 26, 2018, 09:31:41 PM +0100
Good fun despite both my races being ruined by poor driving by others, never seen such blatant blocking
and running people off onto the grass, TC or not. Was fun to have a meaningless race all the same  8)

Did anyone get a replay? not sure if I've done something to my install, but I get no replays with these cars?


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: nfsw55 on September 26, 2018, 09:42:56 PM +0100
Sorry to Bob? (I think it was you) for the hit in Race2, but you were changing lines constantly and I came from behind with much more speed and had nowhere to go.

Otherweise race one was excellent. After a bad quali I started from P5, fought my way to P2 and started to hunt down Fabri, but he was very fast as well. We did nearly identical laptimes, not more than 1 second seperated. At the end I sadly got blocked by a lapped car and lost connection to Fabri.
Race 2 was a bit messy, especially turn 3 ( the 90° right hander). It happened two times that I was in a row of cars going down to that corner and one car out of that row spun entering the turn blocking the road and everybody behind crashed as well.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Bob on September 26, 2018, 09:52:09 PM +0100
not to worry, my first race for a long time and had big steam up in the rift making it hard to see, changing lines is normal for me, bad eyesight and arthritis contributes  :eek: See u all next week had fun.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Mark J on September 26, 2018, 10:04:51 PM +0100
phew, that was two high octane action packed opening rounds !  :o

I quite enjoyed that despite getting done over by those pesky Shark boys in both races! Must have some tag-team arrangement to smash into me  :shifty:  :laugh: ..same corner too! The nasty right hander at the bottom of the hill in sector 1.

I was drenched in sweat at the end of both races, and i'm reasonably fit!  :P

Race 1 Got a decent enough start and all went well until I got walloped from behind quite heftily at forementioned corner. Don't know what happened behind me but just saw sharks car bouncing all over me. This cost me 3 places I think. I was still a bit bemused by it when shark pounced past near end of lap 1. But after that I had a cracking chase with Simon for many laps until he eeked away from me ( I blame my damage  ;) ) and even my team-mate got past me and pulled a gap that I couldn't close. Pete A put a late charge on me but finished just ahead.
Race 2 started 3rd but soon dropped a few cars as the nutters came past  ;D was holding my own until I got hit quite hard by Pete at same downhill corner, can only think he got out of shape under braking and steamed into me but quite an impact that sent me spinning off. Feared heavy damage again but managed to have a great battle with Alexey until we had a tangle (my fault at same flipping corner!) I touched the brakes whilst on the dirty (right) side and my car just speared around into him. Rejoined a couple of cars down but we soon fought past them but once again I just couldn't stay with his car and he pulled a decent gap. Nsfw closed right up at the end but ran out of time to get by me.

Good fun, nice grid, and welcome to the two new Flying Finns and congrats to the two race winners, Fabri and then Jari  :thumbup1:

Am sure there will be some complaints about contacts as I saw a few, but its the first races, close pace and on a tricky undulating track so keep calm and report any incidents as per the norm if you feel hard done by,  thanks for racing all  :euro:



Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Simon Gymer on September 26, 2018, 10:31:10 PM +0100
Was being cautious in race 1, but the inevitable and got smashed into from behind into the first sharp right hander. No idea what really happened there as no replay from the first race. I think I ended up 6th or 7th though with incidents ahead :-(

Second race I started 5th and was into 3rd as Jonzo was napping at the lights. Probably could have had 3rd, but snatch a brake into the last corner and whacked the barriers putting me down to 4th. Car was pretty damaged, lapping over a second slower and hideous understeer meant FMG got past pretty easily. Was lucky that everyone else was so far behind that I stroked it home for 5th.

Good to get back in the saddle, after months off, but the graphics looked awful with the grey clouds and everything was so dated and plain. Hope they can sort out the performance of ACC, cause that looks nice, but runs like a dog.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on September 26, 2018, 11:12:03 PM +0100
Race 1 Had a decent start and thought it would be alright after T1 went without incidents. Then had to slam the brake into the sharp right. Altough i had adjusted the brake bias to compensate for the cold tires it still tried to come round on me and i clipped the inner curb. That was probably the shunt Simon and Mark felt. Sorry if it was me. Was certainly no intantional ramming for sure. Cant really tell as R1 replay did not save for me. I Let Simon and Mark get by again and started the chase and i think finished 7th in the end.
Perhaps someone can upload under the replay header on this website?

R2 I started at the front and made a good start again and gained a place going downhill. Had Jari to chase and Simon hot on my tail for half of the race. Eventually Fabri came up from behind which made it a 3-way battle to the finish. All in all nice and close racing all.

Video recap of Fabri going through the field, so you can see lot of action from the second race. Unedited, but nice to watch:
https://youtu.be/9eZak_ztm_c (https://youtu.be/9eZak_ztm_c)


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Baikal on September 27, 2018, 02:00:21 AM +0100
Thanks for the race, guys!
Was Q third and reached the same to mine record time. :P
In races setup i've  make a mistake using 1 click softer springs. It helps in overall 3rd turn area stability But car becomes toooo lazy in other turns after a couple of laps. :-[ Can't manage the car properly in 1st turn , so, the long battle with Kimi with going to grass in 1st turn with widEST exits was like a wonder  :o for him but it was a shame for me  ;D IMHO yes, the default set is close to ideal here. Love this car. Needs to manage brake balance during. FMG- you are brainy as usually! Thanks for the fight!  :)
I like this races. First was P3-P5 , second- P8 -P7. Was very fun to fight with FMG, nfsw55 ( exelent overtake! but you are so risky boy)  ;D, Kimi ( thanks for your patience, man!) and MarkJ ( don't worry about accident!  :) ) . Very impressed in overall pilots skill and track culture ( as always in UKAC).
Fabri was just fast as usually  :) Congratulation to winners and podium!
My onboards. Not edited. A lot of battles ( if some film skiped). Again, i've forgot to turn off some apps for races  :D
See you are all in Vallelunga! It will be not so crazy races due more calm   track config, imo.  ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKcZAuovB00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLc06uwWc1I

PS Is grid was correct for 2nd race? I've forgot to make a screens after sessions (was 3 month stoped in racing )) I've lost in how to drive and how to make screenshoots  ;D )


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Mark J on September 27, 2018, 09:11:32 AM +0100
now the dust has settled, hope everyone enjoyed that last night. It was a bit more frantic than we are used to, as these cars tend to race within inches of each other if you get several on similar pace. The qualifying grid was very close!  :o
its definitely more hussle and bussle than GT racing or historics, though a few seemed hell bent on getting past whether it involved contact or not! But really the only corner that caused most of the trouble was the downhill 'S' into the tight right hander, where if you braked offline it invariably caused incidents. Saw a few divebombs down at the last corner too, but its a natural overtaking place and again very tricky due to the undulating track.
Hope nobody got put off, just need to put some practise laps in to be reasonably on the pace  :) As already mentioned Vallelunga will be more open than Oulton.

@shark re graphics, got to remember this is a mod pack of cars on a mod track. I thought Oulton looked great personally, just like numerous track days i've done there. The cockpits arent upto Kudos standards but good enough, even with my Rift  :) And ACC runs smooth as silk on my pc, so might want to look at your hardware  ;)


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Simon Gymer on September 27, 2018, 10:11:35 AM +0100
And ACC runs smooth as silk on my pc, so might want to look at your hardware  ;)
AC is great, iRacing is great (not that I play it any more), pCars 2 is great. ACC sucks.

I run triple monitors and SLI GTX970s. They are good enough for everything else but ACC is really poor (graphical performance wise). It looks like SLI is not currently supported, which probably explains the performance issues. Also ACC doesn't implement independent screen rending so the sides are stretched which is a shame too. Hopefully they will sort out both ASAP! :-D


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Mark J on September 27, 2018, 10:22:37 AM +0100
There appeared to be a plain red skin and at least one or two other plain cars on track last night. Anyone know who they were or why they didnt have the correct skin? Most appeared correct. Might have been the un-assigned racers being given default skins  :-\

To the two flying Finns, can i add you to the driver entry list for next time with a pre-chosen car? If so, let me know your chosen car & skin please.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: KDiesel on September 27, 2018, 10:44:11 AM +0100
There appeared to be a plain red skin and at least one or two other plain cars on track last night. Anyone know who they were or why they didnt have the correct skin? Most appeared correct. Might have been the un-assigned racers being given default skins  :-\

To the two flying Finns, can i add you to the driver entry list for next time with a pre-chosen car? If so, let me know your chosen car & skin please.

First of all thanks for races and warm welcomes, yeah, Finns are happy to join for future races. I'll drive Alfa #61 and Jari drivers a Ford (only god know which number) but same that he drove last nite I think. These cars are absolute fun for FWD.

K


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Mark J on September 27, 2018, 02:04:32 PM +0100
There appeared to be a plain red skin and at least one or two other plain cars on track last night. Anyone know who they were or why they didnt have the correct skin? Most appeared correct. Might have been the un-assigned racers being given default skins  :-\

To the two flying Finns, can i add you to the driver entry list for next time with a pre-chosen car? If so, let me know your chosen car & skin please.

First of all thanks for races and warm welcomes, yeah, Finns are happy to join for future races. I'll drive Alfa #61 and Jari drivers a Ford (only god know which number) but same that he drove last nite I think. These cars are absolute fun for FWD.

K

Cool, but will need your steam guid numbers if you could pm them to me (Click on my name and send message) long number starts with 765...


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Baikal on September 27, 2018, 02:31:11 PM +0100
There appeared to be a plain red skin and at least one or two other plain cars on track last night. Anyone know who they were or why they didnt have the correct skin? Most appeared correct. Might have been the un-assigned racers being given default skins  :-\

To the two flying Finns, can i add you to the driver entry list for next time with a pre-chosen car? If so, let me know your chosen car & skin please.

First of all thanks for races and warm welcomes, yeah, Finns are happy to join for future races. I'll drive Alfa #61 and Jari drivers a Ford (only god know which number) but same that he drove last nite I think. These cars are absolute fun for FWD.

K

Cool, but will need your steam guid numbers if you could pm them to me (Click on my name and send message) long number starts with 765...
See any af GUIDS joined  in server log file  ;)


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Mark J on September 27, 2018, 02:42:48 PM +0100
i havent got that  ;) Pete has.

Is there a problem with the results? Normally pops up by now (might just be Petes too busy today) Tony mentioned he couldnt see a Honda Civic in the LM2 gubbins that Dave set up  :-\


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Baikal on September 27, 2018, 03:02:48 PM +0100
Pete, friend! Don't give up! Do not quit the session!  I see ( in replay) you are just had a mistakes with brake balanse. Move it forward in race start, move it back in middle and again move it forward in finish laps. All will be ok imo  :)

BTW nfsw55, you cost me so big price in 2nd race !  :P The princip is to "brake later than all" is not respecting way in most of leagues  ;) AC is not a NFS game  :)


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: nfsw55 on September 27, 2018, 03:38:05 PM +0100
Pete, friend! Don't give up! Do not quit the session!  I see ( in replay) you are just had a mistakes with brake balanse. Move it forward in race start, move it back in middle and again move it forward in finish laps. All will be ok imo  :)

BTW nfsw55, you cost me so big price in 2nd race !  :P The princip is to "brake later than all" is not respecting way in most of leagues  ;) AC is not a NFS game  :)

Yeah, that was my fault, sorry again :( But in your video it looks like the second hit you got from the right side which put you off the road was much more severe for you?


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Baikal on September 27, 2018, 03:43:45 PM +0100
Pete, friend! Don't give up! Do not quit the session!  I see ( in replay) you are just had a mistakes with brake balanse. Move it forward in race start, move it back in middle and again move it forward in finish laps. All will be ok imo  :)

BTW nfsw55, you cost me so big price in 2nd race !  :P The princip is to "brake later than all" is not respecting way in most of leagues  ;) AC is not a NFS game  :)

Yeah, that was my fault, sorry again :( But in your video it looks like the second hit you got from the right side which put you off the road was much more severe for you?
No. Kimi was a natural movement which was not correctable by humans brain this moment. I watched a replay.  :)


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Sutol on September 27, 2018, 03:59:06 PM +0100
Good to be back and looking forward to the rest of the series.

I tried my best to keep it clean but had contact at various stages of the 2 races. One monumental one with Syd, where he and the guy following ended up airborne and landing g the other side of the barriers.

I take it the reverse grid situation will be sorted for the next race?


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: picnic on September 27, 2018, 04:05:57 PM +0100
i havent got that  ;) Pete has.

Is there a problem with the results? Normally pops up by now (might just be Petes too busy today) Tony mentioned he couldnt see a Honda Civic in the LM2 gubbins that Dave set up  :-\
I PM'ed you Mark re: results. I'll look at the LM2 stuff shortly, not that I'm an expert so it may require more help!

Once the results are imported we'll have the GUIDs for our new friends :)


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: phspok on September 27, 2018, 05:45:45 PM +0100
I was "the guy following"  :o I tried to avoid, and zip through before I hit anyone, but I should have slowed
and been more patient.  ::) I had been off previously a couple of times, and rejoined facing the wrong way
drove a little, thinking "this doesn't look right" and got transported to the pits to serve my jail sentence  :hang:

Seriously, does anyone have a replay they can post somewhere? I want to watch some of the action  ;D


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: FullMetalGasket on September 27, 2018, 06:09:21 PM +0100
I've got 'em. Should be able to upload them tomorrow if no-one beats me to it.
PM me or otherwise prod me if needed


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: phspok on September 27, 2018, 06:22:50 PM +0100
Thanks

I need to check my setup, it used to autosave replays, now it doesn't see anything to save at all.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Fabri Fibra on September 27, 2018, 06:41:35 PM +0100
Good races.
I did the pole and race 1 was no so hard, except for a huge drift in the Druids Corner on the first lap (big risk). Nfsw was close to me but he was unlucky with a lapped guy. This contact was, in my opinion, sad and definitely preventable by the lapped pilot.

Race 2 was hardest,  I avoided the brothel in the first 2-3 laps, and I was 4th and then 3rd. Jari and Stefan were fast and precise, I had no some clear overtaking opportunities, so I finished third.

Fun races, hard to pass in this track.

Next round at Vallelunga, the Italian spectators will cheer Alfa.  :angel:


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: picnic on September 27, 2018, 07:21:00 PM +0100
Race results are in - I see the reverse race start positions aren't quite right as it swapped at 8 not 10. Hopefully the rest makes sense.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: phspok on September 27, 2018, 07:35:50 PM +0100
Need to ask Dave to add the cars?


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Mark J on September 27, 2018, 08:22:00 PM +0100
Need to ask Dave to add the cars?

when I look under events in LM2, the cars are listed under 'vehicles' on the left but if I try and select them under 'cars' none of the TCR cars are listed to verify it. How do we get them in there? Also no tyre brands have been selected for any of the TCR cars.  ???


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Sutol on September 27, 2018, 08:28:24 PM +0100
@Fabri, lapped driver was me, my car was very damaged, wheel at 45 Deg. I just couldn't seem to get out of the way quick enough. Very sorry obviously. Chris


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Mark J on September 28, 2018, 08:33:34 AM +0100
Results tables updated with car details (courtesy of Dave G  :angel: )


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Baikal on September 28, 2018, 01:10:29 PM +0100
Results tables updated with car details (courtesy of Dave G  :angel: )
Cool view! Thanks Dave!
But  Seat Leon TCR is not the same to Seat Leon Cupra  ;) Better to have both short names (Leon TCR and Cupra TCR) , imo
I know that yet author of Seat Leon TCR making Cupra model too this days  :)
In real TCR  (;D) we have these both http://www.tcr-series.com/inside-tcr/homologated-cars
And please, we are all in Hankook tires  :)
And the main question: why i am is 8th and not 1st in overall table?  :laugh: ;D


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Mark J on September 28, 2018, 02:07:01 PM +0100
B'ah someone told me all the cars used Yokohomas  :P will edit to be Hankook, but not sure i have the privileges to rename the Cupra/Leon.
Regarding results, i think DG is looking into the algorithm of how it calcs the 2nd race results.  :smartass:

edit: Tyres changed to Hankook and Leon renamed.  :)


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: picnic on September 28, 2018, 02:14:44 PM +0100
Regarding results, i think DG is looking into the algorithm of how it calcs the 2nd race results.  :smartass:
Are the results not right then? I thought it was just the starting positions that aren't quite right  :-[


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Baikal on September 28, 2018, 03:06:57 PM +0100
Regarding results, i think DG is looking into the algorithm of how it calcs the 2nd race results.  :smartass:
Are the results not right then? I thought it was just the starting positions that aren't quite right  :-[
For me the 2nd grid start pos was right. i've finished 5 in 1st race, so , was started at 6 in 2nd.
Kimi and Simon (nearest to me) 2nd race pos was right too. IMHO, all 2nd race grid was ok . If i am not right with other pilots - just say it  :)


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: picnic on September 28, 2018, 03:30:07 PM +0100
The results say you started 4th in Race 2. I finished race 1 in 9th and started 2nd (AC does that) but the results say I started 9th. The grid reversal was 8 in LM2 and 10 in game hence the error, we'll sort this. Hopefully everything else is right.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Baikal on September 28, 2018, 03:49:48 PM +0100
Yes. you are right ). So, only Qualify bars in race 2 results table has wrong positions. It's not a problem at all. But yes, Q bars in 2 nd race are not needed at all here, imho. But it's Dave's program- may be he will think about it and fix :) Just need a 2nd race and reverse grid definition in his program. Qualify change to StartPos  ( for 2nd race)  for example. Or exclude this column at all.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Simon Gymer on September 28, 2018, 05:00:53 PM +0100
So how are we doing reverse grid. Was it too 6 or 8 that is reversed? It wasn’t the whole grid.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: nfsw55 on September 28, 2018, 05:09:30 PM +0100
Positions 1 to 10 from race 1 will start race 2 in reversed order.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Fabri Fibra on September 28, 2018, 05:11:03 PM +0100
I think, if i don't wrong:
in Race 2 I started 10th and Jari 1st. So starting positions on race 2-table are not correct, but i think it is not a big problem.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: picnic on September 28, 2018, 07:49:46 PM +0100
After a quick explanation from Dave (  :angel: ) I've fixed the start positions for race 2.


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Mark J on September 28, 2018, 08:00:28 PM +0100
Nice job Pete, thanks  :)


Title: Re: UKAC TCR Series - Oulton Park - Sep 26 Rounds 1&2
Post by: Simon Gymer on September 30, 2018, 10:46:08 AM +0100
Positions 1 to 10 from race 1 will start race 2 in reversed order.

OK, cool Thanks.