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Title: UKGTL Season 19 GTL Originals Cup - Spa - Jan 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on October 30, 2018, 12:32:01 PM +0000
GTL Originals Cup Standings here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=647&theme=5)

Grid/server capacity: 22

Practice: ~19:20  (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (14 laps)

Track: Spa Francorchamps, Belgium. (Standard GTL Track)

Cars allowed: Any original GTC-TC-76 class car
                    
Car restrictions: None

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit stops: Not required

Server: simracing.org.uk Wednesday
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 GTL Originals Cup - Spa - Jan 16
Post by: SpecialKS on January 12, 2019, 10:14:52 PM +0000
I definitely will miss at least this one.  :(

There are different options concerning my G25 as power LED is blinking and wheel does not calibrate:

- power supply is faulty
- something inside the wheel is broken (e.g. optical encoder: https://de.ifixit.com/Anleitung/Logitech+G27+Optical+Encoder+Replacement/42113 (https://de.ifixit.com/Anleitung/Logitech+G27+Optical+Encoder+Replacement/42113))
Have to open the wheel on order to verify.

Ordering a new power supply and/or the encoder (https://www.ebay.com/itm/60-Slot-Steering-Wheel-Optical-Encoder-for-Logitech-G25-Driving-Force-GT-/264059495927 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/60-Slot-Steering-Wheel-Optical-Encoder-for-Logitech-G25-Driving-Force-GT-/264059495927)) and try the reparation

or buy a new one.



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 GTL Originals Cup - Spa - Jan 16
Post by: SpecialKS on January 13, 2019, 02:30:33 PM +0000
Ok - the optical encoder is broken: https://www.mediafire.com/view/0aa77mbacj63in0/IMGP3647crop.jpg/file (https://www.mediafire.com/view/0aa77mbacj63in0/IMGP3647crop.jpg/file)

Very detailed instruction for repair here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCSTOb28Ero&pbjreload=10 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCSTOb28Ero&pbjreload=10)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhYpWAmZVjQ&pbjreload=10 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhYpWAmZVjQ&pbjreload=10)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23ahB-YfkC0&pbjreload=10 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23ahB-YfkC0&pbjreload=10)

It can be tried to glue the damage but a new encoder (brass instead of plastic) can be ordered from here: https://cmlaserservice.com/index.html (https://cmlaserservice.com/index.html) (around $ 40).

Delivery from Thailand could last two to four weeks  :(

Have to look whether it's available here in Europe or in Germany too. I hope it will be worth to buy it and repair the wheel.

I still have a very old steering wheel which I will try to connect in order to be back earlier than scheduled.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 GTL Originals Cup - Spa - Jan 16
Post by: EvilClive on January 13, 2019, 02:54:09 PM +0000
I hope that you can get your wheel repaired Kurt. Maybe the power supply will cure some problems, but if it is the encoder disk that is broken, that will require some dis-assembly to correct. I'm afraid I cannot suggest a source for a new encoder disk, but $ 40 sounds a little expensive.

From my experience earlier this week,  can say that it is not difficult to get access to the encoder disk, it just takes a little time and a lot of screws!!

The disk itself is a very delicate item which simply slides onto the motor shaft. Because it is a slotted disk which works with an optical encoder, it would cause problems if some fluff or any foreign objects found themselves onto that disk, so maybe worth stripping the wheel down and cleaning things.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 GTL Originals Cup - Spa - Jan 16
Post by: SpecialKS on January 13, 2019, 03:38:37 PM +0000
Thanks Clive. The wheel is already disassembled  ;D and the encoder in the picture is mine.
Found an even more expensive supplier of the Thai product with ebay Germany (€ 45) but would be here during next week.  :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 GTL Originals Cup - Spa - Jan 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 14, 2019, 02:50:08 PM +0000
Hi, it appears that it is donation time again  ::)

Please give whatever you can afford to keep this little old site of ours fit and healthy.

Thanks in advance

Tony


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 GTL Originals Cup - Spa - Jan 16
Post by: EvilClive on January 14, 2019, 04:28:49 PM +0000
Thanks Clive. The wheel is already disassembled  ;D and the encoder in the picture is mine.
Found an even more expensive supplier of the Thai product with ebay Germany (€ 45) but would be here during next week.  :)

€ 45 is a lot cheaper than a new wheel Kurt  ;) and I guess that you have already worked out how straightforward it is to fix.  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 GTL Originals Cup - Spa - Jan 16
Post by: misnoimis on January 15, 2019, 05:06:15 PM +0000
Can anyone let me know the original car makes, models and car numbers in GTL GTC-TC-76?  :helpsmilie:

I have downloaded so many mods and skins (it runs into hundreds) that I now don’t have a clue what the original cars were. I have just checked out online practice and all I have been getting is a “car not present on server” message. I hope the originals are all still there in my GTL Folder. I have tried about twenty of the most likely to be GTL originals and found only one so far. I shall now do some practice with that car but is not the one I would normally chose. :thumbdown:

I wonder if anyone else is having the same problem.  ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 GTL Originals Cup - Spa - Jan 16
Post by: Geoffers on January 15, 2019, 05:38:25 PM +0000
GTC-TC76 Cars

BMW CSL
Chevrolet Corvette (C3)
De Tomaso Pantera
Ford Capri RS
Ford Escort RS
Porsche 906
Porsche 911RSR
Porsche 914/6


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 GTL Originals Cup - Spa - Jan 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 15, 2019, 06:30:22 PM +0000
Can anyone let me know the original car makes, models and car numbers in GTL GTC-TC-76?  :helpsmilie:

I have downloaded so many mods and skins (it runs into hundreds) that I now don’t have a clue what the original cars were. I have just checked out online practice and all I have been getting is a “car not present on server” message. I hope the originals are all still there in my GTL Folder. I have tried about twenty of the most likely to be GTL originals and found only one so far. I shall now do some practice with that car but is not the one I would normally chose. :thumbdown:

I wonder if anyone else is having the same problem.  ::)

ygm

If anyone else needs the original carset please send me a pm (not an email  ::) )


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 GTL Originals Cup - Spa - Jan 16
Post by: EvilClive on January 15, 2019, 07:06:23 PM +0000
FWIW ................I have the original car list, but it is not helping me decide ( or select ) which car to use.  :-\


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 GTL Originals Cup - Spa - Jan 16
Post by: misnoimis on January 15, 2019, 10:49:28 PM +0000
GTC-TC76 Cars

BMW CSL
Chevrolet Corvette (C3)
De Tomaso Pantera
Ford Capri RS
Ford Escort RS
Porsche 906
Porsche 911RSR
Porsche 914/6
Can anyone let me know the original car makes, models and car numbers in GTL GTC-TC-76?  :helpsmilie:

I have downloaded so many mods and skins (it runs into hundreds) that I now don’t have a clue what the original cars were. I have just checked out online practice and all I have been getting is a “car not present on server” message. I hope the originals are all still there in my GTL Folder. I have tried about twenty of the most likely to be GTL originals and found only one so far. I shall now do some practice with that car but is not the one I would normally chose. :thumbdown:

I wonder if anyone else is having the same problem.  ::)

ygm

If anyone else needs the original carset please send me a pm (not an email  ::) )

Thanks Geoffers and Tony.

I spent an hour or more online finding out the cars that were useable by trial and error, could have saved my time and practiced. I didn’t realise how few skins there were for the cars in the original program. In case I have some missing I will transfer the downloaded folder to my GTL PC. That runs windows XP Pro, a bit out of date but the old programs run fine on it. I can’t connect to simracing.org on it now as the Browsers no longer support XP.

Hope to see you on line tomorrow. :sweatdrop:



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 GTL Originals Cup - Spa - Jan 16
Post by: fpolicardi on January 15, 2019, 11:02:11 PM +0000
GTC-TC76 Cars

BMW CSL
Chevrolet Corvette (C3)
De Tomaso Pantera
Ford Capri RS
Ford Escort RS
Porsche 906
Porsche 911RSR
Porsche 914/6
Can anyone let me know the original car makes, models and car numbers in GTL GTC-TC-76?  :helpsmilie:

I have downloaded so many mods and skins (it runs into hundreds) that I now don’t have a clue what the original cars were. I have just checked out online practice and all I have been getting is a “car not present on server” message. I hope the originals are all still there in my GTL Folder. I have tried about twenty of the most likely to be GTL originals and found only one so far. I shall now do some practice with that car but is not the one I would normally chose. :thumbdown:

I wonder if anyone else is having the same problem.  ::)

ygm

If anyone else needs the original carset please send me a pm (not an email  ::) )

Thanks Geoffers and Tony.

I spent an hour or more online finding out the cars that were useable by trial and error, could have saved my time and practiced. I didn’t realise how few skins there were for the cars in the original program. In case I have some missing I will transfer the downloaded folder to my GTL PC. That runs windows XP Pro, a bit out of date but the old programs run fine on it. I can’t connect to simracing.org on it now as the Browsers no longer support XP.

Hope to see you on line tomorrow. :sweatdrop:


I use Firefox on a XP pc, all works fine.
Ciao


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 GTL Originals Cup - Spa - Jan 16
Post by: misnoimis on January 16, 2019, 04:21:12 PM +0000
GTC-TC76 Cars

BMW CSL
Chevrolet Corvette (C3)
De Tomaso Pantera
Ford Capri RS
Ford Escort RS
Porsche 906
Porsche 911RSR
Porsche 914/6
Can anyone let me know the original car makes, models and car numbers in GTL GTC-TC-76?  :helpsmilie:

I have downloaded so many mods and skins (it runs into hundreds) that I now don’t have a clue what the original cars were. I have just checked out online practice and all I have been getting is a “car not present on server” message. I hope the originals are all still there in my GTL Folder. I have tried about twenty of the most likely to be GTL originals and found only one so far. I shall now do some practice with that car but is not the one I would normally chose. :thumbdown:

I wonder if anyone else is having the same problem.  ::)

ygm

If anyone else needs the original carset please send me a pm (not an email  ::) )

Thanks Geoffers and Tony.

I spent an hour or more online finding out the cars that were useable by trial and error, could have saved my time and practiced. I didn’t realise how few skins there were for the cars in the original program. In case I have some missing I will transfer the downloaded folder to my GTL PC. That runs windows XP Pro, a bit out of date but the old programs run fine on it. I can’t connect to simracing.org on it now as the Browsers no longer support XP.

Hope to see you on line tomorrow. :sweatdrop:


I use Firefox on a XP pc, all works fine.
Ciao


I was also using Firefox. After a recent automatic update it was a problem, I had videos with no sound, some sites would freeze up or go slow. Firefox said it was not supporting XP any longer.

I have installed again an earlier version of Firefox supposed to work with XP but still have problems so I uninstalled it and tried Explorer and Opera. They work OK but won’t connect me to some sites one of which is simracing.org as they say they can’t provide a secure connection. I only get this problem with XP. If yours still works then it could be down to another problem with my system I guess.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 GTL Originals Cup - Spa - Jan 16
Post by: S.Cargo on January 16, 2019, 04:46:51 PM +0000
I will try to be with you guys tonight  :)
Please keep me a good seat... on the back row !  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 GTL Originals Cup - Spa - Jan 16
Post by: fpolicardi on January 16, 2019, 05:11:27 PM +0000

I spent an hour or more online finding out the cars that were useable by trial and error, could have saved my time and practiced. I didn’t realise how few skins there were for the cars in the original program. In case I have some missing I will transfer the downloaded folder to my GTL PC. That runs windows XP Pro, a bit out of date but the old programs run fine on it. I can’t connect to simracing.org on it now as the Browsers no longer support XP.

Hope to see you on line tomorrow. :sweatdrop:


I use Firefox on a XP pc, all works fine.
Ciao


I was also using Firefox. After a recent automatic update it was a problem, I had videos with no sound, some sites would freeze up or go slow. Firefox said it was not supporting XP any longer.

I have installed again an earlier version of Firefox supposed to work with XP but still have problems so I uninstalled it and tried Explorer and Opera. They work OK but won’t connect me to some sites one of which is simracing.org as they say they can’t provide a secure connection. I only get this problem with XP. If yours still works then it could be down to another problem with my system I guess.

Sometime I have too problems with video, usually they works again after a Flash update. Also Firefox say that this site isn't secure, as all without a certificate even on https, but the forum works fine.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 GTL Originals Cup - Spa - Jan 16
Post by: roguk on January 16, 2019, 09:46:27 PM +0000
Hi  after my stupid 3 crashes on the first lap i hope i did not spoil any ones race, after that car felt wrong and for rest of race did poor lap times.

Grats to Erling on win

Grats to Podium


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 GTL Originals Cup - Spa - Jan 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 16, 2019, 10:01:21 PM +0000
Results and replay now posted.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 GTL Originals Cup - Spa - Jan 16
Post by: fpolicardi on January 17, 2019, 12:26:47 PM +0000
I have to apologize to Dominick for hit him at T2 L1. On braking point I had pressed the wrong pedal and nothing happened cause it was the clutch pedal... I should be banned for life for this...
I had waited for you, but I couldn't see you car. Only later I saw you on the standing.
Anyway I had a nice race trying to catch Bob in his Pantera and only toward the end I could pass him in trouble with tires I think, but at last lap I had a misunderstanding on what was going on ahead at T2 and spun loosing the position hardly conquered. A fair punishment for L1 crash.
Ciao


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 GTL Originals Cup - Spa - Jan 16
Post by: Erling G-P on January 17, 2019, 05:03:26 PM +0000
Had hoped experience with all the add-on cars and fiddling with setups, might finally let me tame the Pantera.  Not so; still as temperamental as I've always found it.  Capri is another popular car; very fast in the right hands, but I've never been able to make it sing.  Didn't even try it and soon found myself in my trusty 906.

Untouchable laptimes by Ziu & Geoffers in qual, so 3rd was the best I could achieve.  Shrugged of Clive's advances through Eau Rouge and kept 3rd. My luck that he went onto the right shoulder down the straight - otherwise he would surely have outdragged me.   On L2, Geoffers & Ziu tangled, and I picked my way through the smoke and splintered tail lights, with Clive in tow.  Wondered how long he could hold up Ziu ?  Not long at all it turned out !!  The Quisling apparently waved him through - no brown envelope this week Mr. Evil !!

Ziu soon had caught up.  Dilemma between handing him my position, or holding him up, risking a repeat of last week's race.  Problem solved when I unintentionally ran wide at Les Combes, letting him past.  Next lap he went off at Blanchimont, handing me back the lead.  He got close on the following lap, but not close enough to attempt a pass.  After this, he gradually fell behind.  Tyres shot already ?

With 4 laps to go, I had a 7-sec lead and was already popping the Champagne.  One lap later the pit board gave me a shock !!  I had lost 1.5 secs in one lap  :o   Gap now 5.5 secs with 3 laps left.  Hadn't seen Geoffers since lap 2/3 and had blissfully forgotten about him.  However, he was very much alive and on a mission !!   Gap down to 3.7 secs a lap later, and only 2. something when the final lap started.  Only just stayed ahead, to finish a mere 0.599 sec ahead.  One more lap and I would have been toast  :sweatdrop:

Grats to Geoffers & Ziu for filling the podium !!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 GTL Originals Cup - Spa - Jan 16
Post by: Geoffers on January 17, 2019, 07:02:05 PM +0000
After a small amount of deliberation decided on the Capri for this race, always liked driving it but had not done so for a long time. Was quite surprised by my qually lap time, hadn't got anywhere near that previously, but Ziu was consistently faster so was expecting 2nd to be my potential best finishing position.

Held my position at the start & surprisingly kept up with Ziu on the opening lap & a half & when he went a bit wide entering Stavelot  I saw an opening, unfortunately I just under steered into Ziu's right rear corner & spun him around, ::) sorry Ziu. While I waited Erling & Clive shot past before Ziu rejoined & we both set off to hunt down the leading duo. Caught Clive a couple of laps later & took 3rd when he spun at the Busstop, Erling & Ziu were about 4s ahead but I ran wide at Pouhon & lost 6-7s a lap later & waved byebye to my chances of catching them so I thought.

However I soon started to catch Ziu quite quickly so I guess he had a problem & when I did catch him he waved me by. Erling was now about 8s ahead with around 5 laps to go. Gained around 1.5s a lap but ran out of time & Erling took the flag by 0.6s.

Congrats to Erling & Ziu.  :clap: :clap:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 GTL Originals Cup - Spa - Jan 16
Post by: SpecialKS on January 17, 2019, 08:00:13 PM +0000
Result (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/Spa_16012019)

8)

Spare part arrived today. Not at home over the weekend. So I hope to get my G25 reassembled and working again over the next days.

Good to see a new face here!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 GTL Originals Cup - Spa - Jan 16
Post by: misnoimis on January 18, 2019, 01:04:34 PM +0000
For my second race back last week after a long layoff from GTL I raced on a track I don’t remember seeing before with very little practice and starting the evening with the default setup. I was happy under the circumstances with the way it went. The same story this week only I had raced on this track before so was expecting things to go a bit better.

It was pretty obvious straight away that I was way off the pace and my setup tweaks during practice did nothing to improve the situation.

I started the race cautiously but was falling behind the back markers more and more as each lap passed so decided to try to find more speed but the car seemed a bit sluggish and wanted to drift wide on corners. I tried to get more speed onto the main straight by going a bit faster on the uphill section before the straight but glanced the barrier on the left which caused the car to drift across the track and hit the right side barrier. After that the handling felt decidedly wrong. My times weren’t much slower but it was even less fun to drive so I thought I would pit. It took about half a day to find my pit spot. As I had feared I had suspension damage. It took the crew another half a day to repair the car. I would liked to have changed the setup but there is no way to do this during a pit stop.

I decided there was no way the car would go faster with me driving it and there seemed no point in me practicing for a quicker time and possibly getting mixed up in other people’s battels so I stayed in the pits and watched the end of the race. I saw some good battles and it looked like a lot of fun.

Grats to all, winner and podiums. :clap:  


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 GTL Originals Cup - Spa - Jan 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 18, 2019, 02:18:58 PM +0000
Result (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/Spa_16012019)

8)

Spare part arrived today. Not at home over the weekend. So I hope to get my G25 reassembled and working again over the next days.

Good to see a new face here!

Thanks for the results Kurt, missed not overtaking you  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 GTL Originals Cup - Spa - Jan 16
Post by: Bob M. on January 18, 2019, 07:02:24 PM +0000
Decent race for me in the Pantera which can be a nasty old girl to drive sometimes.  I kindof put my self in a endurance type mind frame for this one.  Just drove the track as good as possible without being too hard on the rubber.  During offline practice I ran a few half races with 2 times the tire wear in the PLR file so knew how the car reacted to wear.  Get the rears hot and they turn to slime real fast.  Had cars around me most of the time and gave Fulvio a hard time a little but mostly stuck to my plan.  Sorry about your spin and off on towards the last Bud,  after you worked so hard to pass me earlier......Fun series Tony driving cars we very seldom get to use!  Think just for grins I will try the Vette next, haven't driven that boat forever.  See you all at Don.. in the beastly Beemers.

Bob M.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 GTL Originals Cup - Spa - Jan 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 18, 2019, 09:45:43 PM +0000
Glad you all seemed to enjoy that little bit of GTL nostalgia. Certainly made me think fondly of my first outings in sim-racing when I was a newbie at MARA. Happy days  :yes:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 GTL Originals Cup - Spa - Jan 16
Post by: fpolicardi on January 19, 2019, 07:00:09 PM +0000
Glad you all seemed to enjoy that little bit of GTL nostalgia. Certainly made me think fondly of my first outings in sim-racing when I was a newbie at MARA. Happy days  :yes:
MARA  :)