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NGT Sprint Cup - Season 3, Round 3 at Brno

Date: Tuesday 23rd May

Practice 1: 8:30pm (10 mins)
Practice 2: 8:40pm (5 mins)
Qual 2: 8:45pm (28 mins)
Warmup: 9:13pm (2 mins)
Race: 9:15pm (40 mins)

Cars allowed: Ferrari 360, Porsche 911 GT3-RS, Porsche 911 Bi-Turbo, Mosler, Vertigo or Morgan. (Lotus Elise, BMW Z3M, Porsche GT3 Cup are allowed but will not score points.)
Weather: Dry

Server: UKGTR NGT Sprint S3
Password: Server Password is shown in the Password Board (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?board=20.0) and is available to the relevant registered drivers.

Notes:
(1) Full-time drivers should aim to arrive during Practice 1.
(2) Reserve drivers should not connect to the server until Practice 2.
(3) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(4) See  UKGTR Sprint Season 3 Info (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=21) for general Season 3 info.
(5) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7)
(6) The season will be run using a UKGTR carpack which will need to be installed prior to racing. Details of this pack can be found here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1235.msg17247#msg17247).

Go TT (and other ZiPEggs ;))!

I'm not around for this one, will be cheering u on from 90 year old battlefields! :D

T

(OT: I thought The Netherlands were neutral in WWI?)

I may pop along to this one seen as there's more room on the server, I don't race NGT nearly enough!

We were m8. Going here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/war/wwone/battle_verdun.shtml :)

According to 1 of my clanm8s, u shouldn't mention the war when I'm around ;)

(http://www.sitcom.co.uk/fools_horses/graphics/char_uncle.gif)

LOL! :P

T

Dont think I`m gonna be able to make this one - overtime at work  :(

Cheers

Rob

I'm hoping to make this one ... my wife and little man should be coming home tomorrow though, so I'll have to see - but being full time, I'll try and sweet talk my wife into letting me!

(http://www.sitcom.co.uk/fools_horses/graphics/char_uncle.gif)



Hmmmm, why do I feel like eating some Fish fingers ???
I'm gonna attend this one so be prepared for me to do my obligatory NGT spin once I've melted my tyres :P

Dumb question from me, but we are using the 1.5 carpack for this event aren't we?

Yes - I'll send out a reminder just to make sure everyone knows. :)

I don't think I'm going to make this one, I'm just so snowed under I haven't even touched GTR in over a week :(

I can't make tonight either  :( Brno NGT is a favourite of mine, which makes it all the more disappointing to miss it.

I'll be there, looking forward to some more great racing. I'm snowed under with work but actually got in early today so i can be home for the race  8)

Bring it on TT  ;D :fencing:

:sweatdrop:  ;)

I'am not a happy chappy, firstly over taken on the parade lap (not for the first time) Then rear ended on lap 3, splitter gone race over.
  :-X :-X :-X :-X ???

First off all I need to apologise to Bernie Lomax :( Sorry mate :( :( :( He just comes back to ZiP and I give him a nice little welcome....Straight into the kitty litter. Kinda lost the heart to race after that. Just ended up blobbing around the track, came in for a drive through as my guilty conscience kept pestering me. Sorry again Bernie....
Went much as I expected apart from that(in the sand with a puncture) . I don't know if I've got what it takes to cut it at NGT I always seem to burn up the tyres and spin off. I guess I'll have to keep practicing :P

Did a PB in practice and ended 2nd, ofcourse behind Claus again :D.

Race all went well, Claus was running away from me, and I had Andy! close behind me. At some point he took me out which cost me 2nd place and I ended up 9th.
At that point I had to push to the limit to get a respectable position. After a while I was in 6th close behind Truetom in the last lap. I was looking for a gap and I was planning for one last try in the last two corners by getting a good exit speed. But then, on the uphill section before the two last corners......BOOM. Fire, smoke everywhere. I could smell fresh baked saucages and meatballs :o. So I stranded just a few hundred meters from the finish, with nothing more than a barbeque.
And I though Sharks didn't catch fire :P.
I know I had to preserve the engine a bit, but after the incident I just went for it, and kept pushing and thinking: when it's gotta go, it's gotta go. And a shame it actually went :(.

Well pleased with my nights work. :) Qualified 6th i think with as fast as i could go time (2:02.0). Unbelievably CJ was 2 seconds faster than that! Awesome qualifying from everyone. Really starting like this Mosler, it's so smooth to drive, never bobbles around badly or feels like it's going to lose it all the time, really well composed. Don't even have to rev it that hard to get it to go fast, the monster torque is great.

First few laps in the race, very routine, single file sort of stuff. Decided not to warm tyres on the parade lap, just brakes and went for a tyre conservation policy of driving smoothly and within myself. Well I had Greg and RS on my tail for company and after sitting not far behind for quite a long time Greg decided to put on the move. Very good pass mate, brilliant on the brakes. Bugger that I thought, gonna have to speed up now, can't be having people overtaking me!  :o :P Did that and sat on Gregs arse for a while until he made a little mistake up to the final turns and I passed on the outside of the last turn. After that I put the pedal to the metal and pulled out a couple of secondsl gap to now RS who had taken Gregs place (what happend to you Greg?). Just held it at a safe couple of seconds for the next 15 minutes till the end and finished on the podium.  ;D

Mosler is monsterously thirsty, but had done my maths right and finished with plenty to spare unlike Magny-Cours.

Well done to CJ and Andy ahead of me, very fast indeed.

Good fun all round and what an intense first 10 laps.
Started in 7th, followed Shark around for 9 laps or so till I got bored of looking at his car (hehe, as if), managed to nip past him and started to pull away slightly.  Suddenly found myself in 3rd for all of 4 secs until it all got to much for me and I promptly blew it, lol.
Ended up 6th after Ruskus kindly blew his engine on the last corner.  ;D

Nice race .good win Claus.I had alot of disapperihg cars at the start,and a voice that told me blueflag.Sorry i clipped you Aagramn but you were gone and back in a sec,you can also see that in the replay,did not even try to pass you there.Anyway hope you understand and see you all next race.

Jan

I never really got started on this one ... came late so missed practice (and not really had much time to practice offline this week), had to change a nappy during qualy so only got a bad lap in, and selected the wrong setup for the race, cooked the tyres and then had to go help feed my new son.

It doesn't get any better than this folks.

May have to drop to part time in NGT I think if tonight is anything to go by, practice is going to be an issue, but I'll have a think.

That was tough and competitive !

Couldnt get near my PB in qually, despite using the same setup that was very consistent in practise last night ::) Only managed to qualify a measly 15th and was quite disapointed.

Race went much better, managed to overtake a few cars ahead of me in the early laps and then got past the odd spinner to find myself upto 7th? at one point and closing on the Truetom/'another' battle. Then got distracted by a recovering Ruskus after his spin and dropped away a couple of secs. Then Ruskus sneaked up the inside of me on turn 2 left hander and i couldnt see him in my blind spot so stayed wide and he went through nice and clean.
Then kept reasonable  station with him for quite a few laps until we caught Mo who had spun. Mo then span a while later whilst ruskus disapeared away from me. Then had a really long boring spell with nobody near me and a car that was struggling for grip.
Then 3 minutes from the end when i was about 7-8 secs behind the guys in front, i had a horrible 1fps type stuttering spell that made the car completely un-drivable and i had to crawl around the back of the circuit until it went away (had that in last couple of races...was wondering if its the new server or cos i have installed a couple of addon tracks ???) It cost me about 10-15 seconds which is a shame as i may have been able to nab 6th place off Greg? at the end when he had a late spin (i presume?).
Brought it home 7th, so reasonably happy considering the pace up front. My race setup sucked towards the end. ::)

Unbelievable pace up the front..top driving, dont know how you manage a 2:00 lap time :alien:

Congrat to CJ on the win. That was great race the first 15 min were intense, cooled off a bit for me in the middle, then the last 15  min was pressure all they from another sharkie, Got to count myself lucky i finished were I did.

Great race. couldnt believe the times in quali and Qualified 16th with a pb .   Had some great battles all Race with Jamera and Rich A.  The first 5 or 6 six laps was mega with Jamera and Jonzo , couldnt match Jonzo's pace but had a awesome battle with Jamera for about 7 laps after Jonzo had pulled away.  Jamera seemed to be overdriving his Ferrari a bit which made the dice even better , I thiink his tyres gave up the ghost and he spun leaving Rich A to sit on my tail for about 10 laps!!   Sure he could have passed me and cleared off but didnt for some reason. Set up was the best ive had, the tyres stayed consistant till the end.
Well pleased with 8th at the end , grats to Claus, i cant believe how fast you are mate what planet you from again? :D

Cheers! ;)

Well I had a good race for me, no mistakes, just couldn't catch Shark, I think he may of been taking it easy by the end but I just couldn't get any more out of the tyres. I was a bit confused at the start when someone came racing pass the rest of the grid, it really made me laugh... I was like you cheeky bugger !! Totally lost my concentration for a bit.....

Best position for me so far, had great fun for first half or so of the race with Shark and Greg, it's a bugger that corner if you touch, thankfully not my fault, it was a shame coz it would have been close especially as Trutom had closed up on us....

Looking forward to the next race back in the UK....

RS

Ok no server replay  :-[ Sorry, seems that I forgot to change the location ReplaySaver was looking after the Admin rights fiasco last week  :'(

Provisional Results (http://www.ukgtr.org/replay/Brno%20-%20NGT%20Sprint%20S3%20230506.zip) are available though. If people have a client replay please let Mo know, but don't email it to him unless asked to.

Sorry again

One spin, too much acceleration over that bump exiting T3. Good race and new card running gr8, grats to CJ for your win.

Was great behind you Dan, your livery makes car look fast. ;) I didn't have straight line speed to get passed on exit so always goner be tricky.

i lost connection during race ??? :o

Enjoyed it up to that point.

Mark.

Unofficial Lapchart (http://www.tyfdesk.com/simracing/ruskus/lapcharts/BrnoLapchartNGT.htm)

Link is not working Jeff.....

Before the race I was trying to make a good setup. I had one that seemed fast at the time (considering quali times, unbefu..inglivable), made a pb 2.02.1xx with it, but it melted softs literaly in one lap and when I put meds on it was slow...  >:(

At last came to a compromise but I didn't have time to try it as a race setup. So I had to gamble and try to preserve tyres as much as I could. Qualified 10th and couldn't believe the times I was seeing - 2.00.xxx! WTF! I knew I could never reach that so I settled with it and was trying race setup in the second part of quali.

Btw, bad luck Jon, you would have made 2nd or 3rd quali time if not for disco.  >:(

Anyway, as they say, the race has a life of its own and I knew if I was consistant close to (my) top possible level I had a chance to go up a ladder. And I did. Slowly came to 7th, closed on a group Greg, Shark and RS, I waited for something to happen. Then Greg went off, and I staying with RS as Shark went a bit faster. I expected your tyres will melt, RS, you were locking them in every corner for 10 minutes. But seems like they held. How?  ??? Is this a Porsche glitch or what? I feel I'd be off in F360 if I let it do this. Somehow doesn't seem right. Then 5 minutes to go my tyres went and my lap times went 2, 3 seconds down, temps went up to 120. In the back Greg was holding Ruskus which saved my 5th place (thank you Greg  ;D ). When Ruskus finaly came past he closed the 3 second gap in 1 lap. Was holding him for one lap but it was a matter of time. Then before a climb he gave up, or so I thought - never saw your engine smoke, R. I thought you didn't wanna risk taking us both off in the last corner. Well, I came 5th and considering the company around I'm satisfied.  8)

P.S. I thought you're gonna eat me for breakfast Mark J. You were much faster than me in a training the day before. Well, maybe in in Donington.  :devil: 

Fairplay Rich .

Nope not a glitch Trutom, I just can't stop the Bl**dy thing, I think it shows more smoke than they are actually locking, my tyres were gone too at the end though on Meds all round.

RS

Hm, ok RS. Don't know the Porsche really, never seemed my kind of car, though I'm impressed with the  :censored: speed at the corner exit. Poor F360 never gets fast enough on a straight.  ;D

The tyre smoke was quite intensive, on every corner, so maybe it is a graphics thingy. Good race.  :)

TT

I need a replay, for reporting an incident and maybe making a video.

The link of the lapchart will be worked on.

I've corrected the URL now, it should have said...
http://www.tyfdesk.com/simracing/ruskus/lapcharts/BrnoLapchartNGT.htm

I toold u why it is at GTNDC forums.. maybe you didn't go back. Here it is http://gtndclnr.com/forum/index.php?topic=125.from1147800461#new

Basically got to brake less, especially entering turn and then use engine more. Right on turn in is where weight is shifting alot so tricky to ask the rears to hold those high revs but it is possible to strike a balance. I hope that helps and maybe find some consistancy and then more speed. 996 is definitely not a keep brakes planted to floor type car..

TT & RS, when i was closing on your little battle, i too thought its only a matter of time before one of you two's tyres went or they span off, cos every corner i came too, one of you (presume RS?) was leaving a trail of tyre smoke and there were rubber burn marks at every turn.
I was quite disapointed that it didnt seem to affect your race pace!  :'( ;)  

TT, dont know why but my setup that i used in praccy with great pace just didnt seem to work on race day. I was looking forward to breaking into the 2:02 time zone but in the end only managed a mid 2:03 and late in race couldnt get any quicker than late 2:04/ 05 laps  >:( I think my setup was a little too stiff.  :-\
ps you mentioned the corner exit speed of the porsche, i actually thought your fezza had more exit speed out of the final turn than my porker, when i was behind you in qually . :-\

Anyone got a replay from last nights race ?

Yes please, I'm looking too.

And thanks Shark, it works perfecly now :-*

Try this one:http://www.xs4all.nl/~blomsan/.     Brno_UKGTR


Jan

[Edited by the society for clickable links.]

Doesn't work. Link seems a bit strange.

Interesting to see top 3 cars in the race were all different makes.  :smartass:

YES! Thank you for that ;)

Does it work for you?

link to replay. 

http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=108368  (http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=108368)

OK the above links to the replay work for me so if drivers are able to download then please use the timestamps from this replay when reporting the incidents.
I will then use the same replay obviously.

If anyone is still having problems getting a replay and would like to report an incident then please post here or pm me.

Just a small reminder to drivers that all incidents should be reported to the moderator and never discussed in post race chat or on the forums.
The rules are very clear on this.

Thanks,
Mo.

Works for me, thanks Jan.

The replay works, but not good for me. Many cars standing still, so I cannot see the incident I am interested in. So is there a better replay?

TBH I doubt we'll get anything better.

I'm sorry to say I disabled my max fidelity client replay too as I thought we had sorted the server out too. Damn those little things.  :-[

OK I've got a fairly good replay myself Ruskus, so if you can send me details of the incident, who was involved and on which lap (and turn if possible) then that will be fine.

The same applies for any drivers who cannot clearly view their incident in a client replay; for this time I'm willing to go through the replay if I'm given good details on who and where.

If drivers have their own client replay then send me the incident along with the time that they crossed the s/f line after going green, and I can then work out the incident time from my own replay.

I hope that makes sense.....

Thanks,
Mo.

Cheers Mo, appreciated.