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Title: UKGTL Season 19 K.A.D. Cup - Zandvoort - Jul 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 11, 2018, 04:55:11 PM +0000
Championship Standings here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=641&theme=5)

Grid/server capacity: 22

RACE ONE

Practice/car change: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (10 mins)
Race: 20:30 (14 laps)

Track: Zandvoort GP Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg81636#post_zandvoort)

Cars allowed: KAD Mini Cooper S Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_mini_cooper_s_kad_works) Excluding Car #'s 6, 9, 40, 58 & 80
                       Additional skins Download this (http://www.mediafire.com/file/5ni1u5jjrf0b1la/Additional_KAD_Mini_skins.zip/file)
            
Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit stops: Not required

Server: simracing.org WEDNESDAY
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 K.A.D. Cup - Zandvoort - Jul 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 22, 2019, 10:30:12 PM +0100
Taster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UTXC00nTJE :chef:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 K.A.D. Cup - Zandvoort - Jul 17
Post by: SpecialKS on July 16, 2019, 08:36:11 PM +0100
on top  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 K.A.D. Cup - Zandvoort - Jul 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 16, 2019, 11:27:27 PM +0100
on top  ;)
oops, I forgot, sorted now


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 K.A.D. Cup - Zandvoort - Jul 17
Post by: EvilClive on July 17, 2019, 12:56:11 PM +0100
Track download says "Zandvoort GP"......link offers   "Zandvort",    "Zandvoort 75"  and "Zandvoort 67" ???


I would hate to have the wrong circuit...……………….. ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 K.A.D. Cup - Zandvoort - Jul 17
Post by: Geoffers on July 17, 2019, 12:58:23 PM +0100
Track download says "Zandvoort GP"......link offers   "Zandvort",    "Zandvoort 75"  and "Zandvoort 67" ???


I would hate to have the wrong circuit...……………….. ::)

I am pretty sure it is "Zandvoort" that you need Clive. If not then I have been practicing the wrong track.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 K.A.D. Cup - Zandvoort - Jul 17
Post by: EvilClive on July 17, 2019, 01:02:09 PM +0100
Thanks Geoff, at least we will go down in flames together....OK, well I suspect that it is more likely that I will plummet alone.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 K.A.D. Cup - Zandvoort - Jul 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 17, 2019, 02:44:42 PM +0100
Yep, the top one, just Zandvoort.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 K.A.D. Cup - Zandvoort - Jul 17
Post by: EvilClive on July 17, 2019, 03:57:38 PM +0100
Thanks guys, track all loaded and tested via server.

I have just reminded myself how much I struggle with these front wheel drive boxes.  :-\


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 K.A.D. Cup - Zandvoort - Jul 17
Post by: Geoffers on July 17, 2019, 05:36:30 PM +0100

I have just reminded myself how much I struggle with these front wheel drive boxes.  :-\

Translated, that means 'I am on lap record pace!'  :P


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 K.A.D. Cup - Zandvoort - Jul 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 17, 2019, 06:17:04 PM +0100
 :lol:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 K.A.D. Cup - Zandvoort - Jul 17
Post by: phspok on July 17, 2019, 08:40:56 PM +0100
I can't drive these, they are terrible. Doesn't matter what setup I do they swap ends for fun, and it's isnt. :surrender:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 K.A.D. Cup - Zandvoort - Jul 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 17, 2019, 10:14:41 PM +0100
Results and replay now posted.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 K.A.D. Cup - Zandvoort - Jul 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 17, 2019, 10:24:04 PM +0100
Ever since Snetterton, earlier in this series, I have been having an odd graphics problem, which manifest's itself (online only) as a mini parked on the S/F line, usually mid way across the track. No one else can see this car. But if I forget it's there and hit it, I have a huge crash. This is what happened to me tonight in R1. I have now deleted my KAD Mini install and will build a new one. This should get rid of the phantom mini forever.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 K.A.D. Cup - Zandvoort - Jul 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 17, 2019, 10:26:48 PM +0100
Newer drivers to this series will not have realised that we run an assigned car system for this series.

CAR OWNERS

#03 - S.Cargo
#04 - Roguk
#15 - SpecialKS
#27 - Phspok
#30 - seniordan
#31 - EvilClive
#39 - Geoffers
#41 - Wiltshire Tony
#52 - Ziu Bacubacu
#55 - Bob M.
#113 - Dominick
#115 - fpolicardi

Please can new drivers not take a car already "owned". And could existing car owners please use them. To "own" a car please post your desired car # below and I will add it to the list

Thank you

Tony

PS This list now appears in all the future R1 announcements.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 K.A.D. Cup - Zandvoort - Jul 17
Post by: Erling G-P on July 17, 2019, 11:49:08 PM +0100
Newer drivers to this series will not have realised that we run an assigned car system for this series.

CAR OWNERS

#03 - S.Cargo
#04 - Roguk
#15 - SpecialKS
#27 - Phspok
#30 - seniordan
#31 - EvilClive
#39 - Geoffers
#41 - Wiltshire Tony
#52 - Ziu Bacubacu
#55 - Bob M.
#113 - Dominick
#115 - fpolicardi

Please can new drivers not take a car already "owned". And could existing car owners please use them. To "own" a car please post your desired car # below and I will add it to the list

Thank you

Tony

PS This list now appears in all the future R1 announcements.

Could I ask you to add me to it again Tony? - I'm in #36


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 K.A.D. Cup - Zandvoort - Jul 17
Post by: SpecialKS on July 18, 2019, 06:18:05 AM +0100
Really like these cars - in particular with a working setup  :D

But I really don't like these stupid cut warnings on this track  >:( . Due to small mistakes leaving the track with an obvious loss of time I always get cut warnings anyway.
In race one I got a s&g and another when leaving the pits due to speed limit although my pit was just at the end of the pitlane  ??? So I quit completely demoralized.
BTW - nice fight with Mike again for fourth place before I got the s&g  :thumbup1:

Wasn't motivated to take part in race 2 because of that, but I joined at least for filling up the lineup. As so often in such background the race developed satisfactory and
despite another two cut warnings I reached the chequered flag in fourth place by cruising around the track in order to avoid mistakes and another s&g.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 K.A.D. Cup - Zandvoort - Jul 17
Post by: EvilClive on July 18, 2019, 09:35:36 AM +0100
I can't drive these, they are terrible. Doesn't matter what setup I do they swap ends for fun, and it's isnt. :surrender:


Ditto!!!!   I witnessed Matt's erratic progress after I had my own trip into the gravel. He was obviously having problems that were as bad as mine or, if it is possible, even worse!!!.
My ambivalence to these cars is no secret. If I could even remotely understand how I managed a 1:54 lap to take pole in the second race, I could maybe have something to work on. But, in both races I had multiple incidents where the car became violently unstable under braking, leading to major "offs".
In both races I ended up last ( or almost last) after a reasonable start position, within 2 laps. I did stick with the little beasts and actually found the car slightly easier to drive with badly worn front tyres, which makes no sense to me  :-\.

I have sort of worked out how I need to keep 20% throttle on even when braking and turning in, so that the front wheel drive pulls the car through the apex. And I have worked out that I must downshift at the last possible moment to prevent everything going "Pete Tong" very quickly. But I find that very difficult to do in the heat of battle, as I my natural inclination is to get all the gear changing done early so that I can concentrate on negotiating the upcoming corner.

Enough moaning! I warned you that it was likely to be embarrassing...………….and it was!  :-\ :-\ :-\

Grats to all those who have the mental software to control these things and managed to get to the flag, and even reach the dizzy heights of the podium.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 K.A.D. Cup - Zandvoort - Jul 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 18, 2019, 10:18:47 AM +0100
Newer drivers to this series will not have realised that we run an assigned car system for this series.

CAR OWNERS

#03 - S.Cargo
#04 - Roguk
#15 - SpecialKS
#27 - Phspok
#30 - seniordan
#31 - EvilClive
#39 - Geoffers
#41 - Wiltshire Tony
#52 - Ziu Bacubacu
#55 - Bob M.
#113 - Dominick
#115 - fpolicardi

Please can new drivers not take a car already "owned". And could existing car owners please use them. To "own" a car please post your desired car # below and I will add it to the list

Thank you

Tony

PS This list now appears in all the future R1 announcements.

Could I ask you to add me to it again Tony? - I'm in #36

Done  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 K.A.D. Cup - Zandvoort - Jul 17
Post by: mikeharley on July 18, 2019, 10:41:29 AM +0100
Newer drivers to this series will not have realised that we run an assigned car system for this series.

CAR OWNERS

#03 - S.Cargo
#04 - Roguk
#15 - SpecialKS
#27 - Phspok
#30 - seniordan
#31 - EvilClive
#39 - Geoffers
#41 - Wiltshire Tony
#52 - Ziu Bacubacu
#55 - Bob M.
#113 - Dominick
#115 - fpolicardi

Please can new drivers not take a car already "owned". And could existing car owners please use them. To "own" a car please post your desired car # below and I will add it to the list

Thank you

Tony

PS This list now appears in all the future R1 announcements.

Hi,

I'm the new driver and sorry that I haven't read info too well. I check number for me and inform here it. I love number 41 so thats why I chose that. I use number 41 allways when I can. Like in sports I use that. My son uses it in football etc. That is my mothers year of birth.

Br, Mike


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 K.A.D. Cup - Zandvoort - Jul 17
Post by: mikeharley on July 18, 2019, 11:20:48 AM +0100
Really like these cars - in particular with a working setup  :D

But I really don't like these stupid cut warnings on this track  >:( . Due to small mistakes leaving the track with an obvious loss of time I always get cut warnings anyway.
In race one I got a s&g and another when leaving the pits due to speed limit although my pit was just at the end of the pitlane  ??? So I quit completely demoralized.
BTW - nice fight with Mike again for fourth place before I got the s&g  :thumbup1:

Wasn't motivated to take part in race 2 because of that, but I joined at least for filling up the lineup. As so often in such background the race developed satisfactory and
despite another two cut warnings I reached the chequered flag in fourth place by cruising around the track in order to avoid mistakes and another s&g.


was fun driving and fighting... fue laps after you leaved I lost tyre traction totally... wasn't funny anymore...


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 K.A.D. Cup - Zandvoort - Jul 17
Post by: phspok on July 18, 2019, 12:45:42 PM +0100
Don't know why these should be so badly done, the standard in game minis have the same
characteristics, just not so violent. Apologies to anyone I scared with my weird lines and recovery
I think Tony had to take evasive action to avoid my car as it decided where it wanted to go at one point  :o

Didn't Geoffers upload a setup for these? or was it something else...


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 K.A.D. Cup - Zandvoort - Jul 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 18, 2019, 01:07:39 PM +0100
Didn't Geoffers upload a setup for these? or was it something else...
Yes he did. If you pm him I think he will sort you out.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 K.A.D. Cup - Zandvoort - Jul 17
Post by: Erling G-P on July 18, 2019, 03:12:57 PM +0100
Was close to skipping these races due to no practice, but managed to find an hour just before race 1.   Surprised to see competent drivers like Matt & Clive struggle so much with these.  Don't' find them particularly tricky, except for controlling the wheelspin in 1st. May just be lucky with my setup; am using one called G's something, so may be a Geoffers setup.

Surprised to be 2nd on grid in race one, and even more surprised to keep that position at the start.  After 1 lap, Geoffers was gone and I could concentrate on the real race, which was with Clive behind me. Or so I thought - hadn't realized he was replaced by Jammerjoh in one of the earliest laps, as they used the same car. Held the gap till late in the race, when tyre wear started to slow me. Jammerjoh seemed unaffected and started closing the gap, getting past on the final lap, when I understeered off. Fine with me, as it meant I wouldn't be hit by the no-qual ban in race 2, but just as we approached the finish, he slowed and let me take 2nd.  A generous (but unnecessary) gesture ?  A smart tactical move ?  Don't know, but the ban was mine  ;)

15-20 boring minutes waiting for race 2, but for once got a better start than the cars in front of me. Gained 3 places before T1, being up to 3rd.  Apparently miffed Clive, who gave me a hefty whack around T2-T3, sending me sideways across curb & grass. By some miracle I held it together, slid back on track, moving in the right direction - and still 3rd, no less!  Alas, only till the next corner, where Patrick went off and then rejoined right in front of me (I was a bit wide myself, still recovering from Clive). Sorry Patrick; no way of avoiding you. Impact spun him round and stopped me dead, dropping to last.  Slowly made up places, passing a spun Clive and having a good scrap with Bob.  Tony overshot at the chicane, making for an easy pass, but Kurt further up ahead was a tougher nut.  Took several laps to catch and pass him.  Next one I assumed had to be Jammerjoh, some 8-9 secs ahead. Initially closed the gap to 6-7 secs, but then history from race 1 repeated itself, with him getting faster towards the finish, extending the gap again.

Grats to Geoffers on the two wins, and Jammerjoh for 2nd & 3rd respectively.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 K.A.D. Cup - Zandvoort - Jul 17
Post by: S.Cargo on July 18, 2019, 07:06:17 PM +0100
Rather frustrating evening: I felt able of doing mid-pack lap times, but I blew it more than once...  :oops:

Race 1: Lots of gardening in quali = last. OK, no big deal, I was expecting to ba able to run some 1:56/1:55+ laps during the race...
Something happened when I was about to overtake Bob: his car was here then there then here again (some form of jitter in its position). Unfortunately his car happened to be "there" :o  when I was reaching that same exact spot, and that sent me flying and on my roof. The strange part is that Bob did not feel any hit then...
So I restarted last, only to mess-up big time in the same lap and end up on the roof again! >:(
After that it has been a lonely race trying to stay on track and see the finish line.

Race 2: Quali went much better and I was surprised to be P2 (again when the fast guys do not qualify it's easier ;) ).
Not used to be on the front line I realized that the virtual mirror was blocking the view of the starting lights so I had to turn it off (also I had disabled the countdown)...
My take-off was much better than what I could dream of, but... I made a big mess at T4, while fumbling to get the mirror back.  :oops:
I must apologize to Coyote (not the opposite Erling  ;) ), Tony & Bob for hitting & blocking them while re-entering the track (out of any control).
After that the race was rather interesting, catching up Bob, then Tony, then Bob again (I messed up again in between) then Tony again. At this point I rubbed doors with Tony and pushed him wide :-[, so I had to let him pass to finally pass him without contact (he left me plenty of room for this :thumbup1:).

For me the Mini is more difficult to manage on the bumps than during braking, but for this I had to push the brake balance to 76/24 (thanks to hints given in a previous race) to stop the "spin on braking" issue that some report.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 K.A.D. Cup - Zandvoort - Jul 17
Post by: SpecialKS on July 18, 2019, 08:43:18 PM +0100
Result_Race 1 (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/ZandvoortGP_17072019_R1)

 8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 K.A.D. Cup - Zandvoort - Jul 17
Post by: Geoffers on July 18, 2019, 09:14:06 PM +0100
Couple of successful races, won't bore you with the details.

Congrats to Erling & Jammer on their podiums.  :clap: :clap:

Sorry some of you are having so much problem with these cars, I found the KAD Mini to be pretty easy to drive here. Anyway I have uploaded my setup to the Zandvoort online folder, so feel free to give it a try, won't promise it will magically make the car work for you but it may help.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 K.A.D. Cup - Zandvoort - Jul 17
Post by: jammerjoh on July 21, 2019, 08:56:27 PM +0100
Okay Tony

Is number 0 still free?

BTW thanks guys bit of luck helps and the setup from tony ;)

Maybe strange question: half hour sooner starting is not negotiable??? :1eye:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 K.A.D. Cup - Zandvoort - Jul 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 23, 2019, 11:23:46 AM +0100
Is number 0 still free?
Erm.....Is there a #0  ???


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 K.A.D. Cup - Zandvoort - Jul 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 23, 2019, 11:31:03 AM +0100
Maybe strange question: half hour sooner starting is not negotiable??? :1eye:
It is certainly something that could be looked into.

But I would need to run a poll of our current drivers and see what the consensus is.

A change in times would present me with a headache as I would have to alter all the (published) race announcements for all of this years remaining events (insert groan emoji here).