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Cars allowed: Aston Martin DB4 GT Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_aston_db4)
                       Austin Healey 3000 (Standard GTL car)
                       Ferrari 250 GT SWB Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_f250swb)
                       Mercedes 300SL (Gullwing) Download this (http://www.mediafire.com/file/x24qm4qekj4mz15/mercedes300slCoupe.zip/file)

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Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race 1: 20:40 (33 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: 2x
Fuel consumption: 2x
Pit stops required: Yes

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Autopit="0"
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If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

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Just did my first testing, including pit stops.  No matter how many times I tried, I could not get the pit selection board to show when stopping in the right lane, as indicated by the mechanic.  Only by stopping in the left lane, and running into/over the mechanic, would the board show.  Can anyone else confirm this is so ?

See post below; found solution

Otherwise a very nice track!  :)

I've done several pit stops and never had a problem  ??? Just approached to the right of the pit guy really slowly and it's worked every time.

What car Tony ?    I've only tried the Healey so far.

Just did some more testing.  Can get the pit board to show from the right lane, but have to be very far left to do so - wheels across the yellow stripes, and much closer to the mechanic than normal.

Ferrari and Healey

This does not bode well for certain drivers who have had minor issues with pitstops in the past....... ::)

Test it Clive is the best suggestion I can make - if Tony hasn't noticed anything, chances are you may not either.  Tried the other cars, and get the impression the effect is most pronounced in the Healey.

I really haven't, even in the Healey. Just a crawl up to the the RHS of the pit man works for me every time.

I, like Erling, find that the safest way is to have my left wheels to the left of the dotted yellow line, too far to the right & the board does not show.

Can I also suggest that everyone has 'pit in' or something similar mapped to quick chat to warn anyone close behind that they intend to enter the pits. The pit entrance is right on the very quick racing line & someone slowing suddenly to enter the pits could easily cause mayhem.

IMPORTANT

As Geoffers suggest's, could everyone please use their "Pit In" message for this event, preferably well before the pit entry. Providing you haven't changed it, the message should be assigned to Quick Chat #1.

For the actual message text go to Options then Multiplayer. "Pit In" or "Slowing to Pit" is assigned #1. You may change messages to say whatever you want.

To bind this message to a key/button go to Options then Controls then Extra.

Please check your file paths before this event.

Your cars should be located at GTL/GameData/Teams/GTC-65. Check that you do not have something else like GTL/GTL/GameData/Teams/GTC-65.

????? "quick chat"???? wozzat??
 I have wondered how on earth people are typing messages during races, as I find that even hitting the right keys to say "Hi" during practice usually ends up with my car in the undergrowth  :-\ .

I recall seeing something in the various GTL menus which appears to suggest that one can pre-record messages?, but a short dabble failed in getting that to function, so to avoid any more screw ups with my install I left things alone....( no surprise there!). I guess that is what you are calling "quick chat"?.

I might have to have another go at that if I can get some practice time before the race on Wednesday, especially if there is an issue with pitstops as well?


Edit...I see that Tony has anticipated my incompetence....... :-\

Tony, I would never have thought of grovelling to the pit crew, but Hey! if it works don't knock it!!  ::) ::) ;) ;) ;)

:lol:

OK relax everyone.  Quick chat sorted, pit stops practised ( well I have tried a few  :-\ )  and I would agree that the left tyres need to be to the left of the yellow line to be sure of getting things right.


And I did not need to beg Mabel or Arnold for tyres and fuel  :whistling:

IMPORTANT

Ziu has told me that he has a technical problem regarding his "Pit In" message.

If you are following him, at around the pitting time, please be aware that he may slow to pit without giving any warning.

Better make sure I am ahead of him then! :whistling:

Long race tonight guy's, so lets be extra careful approaching that first turn. Everyone will be on cold tyres and unknown braking points.

I can back up what Tony says about T1.

We have run this track quite often in UKGPL and the Spanish metal recycling industry has done a great deal of business after many of the races.

Also I might suggest that in the early laps T3 ( the hairpin right hander, just down the hill) can catch out the unwary on cold tyres and full tanks. It is amazing how many cars can be fitted into that small run off area  ::)

Race server started early (cos I can  :P )

I’m afraid I will be a no show this evening as I’m suffering from the initial stages of a frozen shoulder. :( I may try auto gearbox and one handed steering for later races if the physio exercises and the tablets work. :sweatdrop:

Hope all enjoy their race. :thumbup1:

Have been having internet trouble today.  Drops out every so often, might be the extreme cold -11F  (-24c) we have here now.  Not going to call the cable guy, nobody should be out in this weather and it just started since the cold temps hit us.  When I go online if I am lagging or anything be sure to mention it during practice or Qual, and I will guit.  Don't want to mess any one else's race up.

Bob M.

To add to the growing list of warnings and problems I won't know whether my ISP issue is sorted until I'm in an online race with cars close by. Given the nature of the track I'm definitely starting last and with extreme care. I'm optimistic it'll be sorted though because I've seen and monitored outages and activities which indicate (automated) testing  on the part of the ISP. Given that I had no further communications I assume they consider it a done deal (that or they've thrown up their hand in the air, lol).

Fingers crossed guy's

sincerest  apologies to Geoffers.  For some crazy reason I completely missed you in my mirrors. Of course Iwould have let you pass a long way before I stupidly hit the barrier. Really sorry mate.

Dan

Results and replay now posted.

Just one of those in the wrong place at the wrong time moments Dan, it happens. Never mind, on to Stardust next week.

Grats to the podium guys and thanks to all for a great fun race on a classic circuit.


I could write another post bemoaning my bad luck and inept pit crew after such a promising start to the race.
I had tried the 4 options available and, in my hands at least, there was a difficult decision to be made.
 The Aston Martin did not feel fast, but the laptimes told a different story. The Healey was by far the easiest to drive but I could not match the Aston's times, The Fezza was a joy to drive and very smooth, but again not quite as quick as the Aston in my hands ( Ziu proved otherwise ). The Merc was solid and safe but just felt a little slow for me at this track.

The Aston would turn in very fast laps, but if pushed hard simply devoured the rubber  :-\. So come race time I had to make a decision.... speed won the day and the Aston was rolled out. I tried to tweak the setup to protect the tyres and some adjustments to the diff and castor angle certainly helped dduring practice and quali.

I had expected the usual suspects to be on the front rows in whatever cars they had selected. Ziu was there, but Geoffers and Erling were playing games perhaps?? the start was a little more physical than I had expected after Tony's Steward Briefing pre race. Dan made his usual lightening start and Erling appeared keen to muscle his way past too. So it was "elbows out" at T1and I was glad of the grunt the Aston Martin had under the bonnet as I punched out of T1 to get onto Ziu's tail. This track is difficult to make a pass despite feeling quite fast and open, so I was keen to be at the front and not embroiled in midfield battles.

Ziu was quick and getting past him would be risky so early in the race, so I was quite content to sit behind him and let him set the pace. I was surprised how quickly we eased away from the pack and I had no intention of pushing for a pass, unless Ziu made a big mistake, until after the pitstops.

I was momentarily distracted by HUD and my tyre wear, plus the fuel consumption when I should have been focused on the braking and apex points. The contact with the barriers was not that heavy, but the violent reaction of my car seemed a little excessive and I landed facing the wrong way and in the wrong place!! I had to wait to spin the car around and get going, and lost any positional advantage, My tyres were already showing signs of stress and now I was faced with pushing harder than I wanted to.

I was gaining ground and places despite the poor tyres and feeling quite pleased with myself  ;D until.... At this point I would like to claim the trophy for the most innovative and effective accidental pitstop for this season.
Climbing the hill up to the S/F straight was normally taken flat in 4th gear and I saw no reason to change that as I chased down yet another car ( not sure who it was?). But this was where the rear tyres finally cried " enough!!". As the Start line came into view I was at max attack in 4th gear and planning a dive down the inside at T1. Approx 50 mtrs from the pit entry the rear end broke away and turned the car towards the pit entry at around 140mph!! I could not correct the slide, BUT I made it into the pitlane AND avoided a speeding penalty.. Yeah !! work that one out guys  ;). We will gloss over the fact that this pitstop was 2 laps earlier than the script said that I should stop, and totally screwed my race later on, but having been propelled into the pitlane I had no choice but to change tyres and filling with gas. I cannot wait to watch the replay and see what actually happened...I might be able to replicate this high speed approach in future races  ::)???

The cold new tyres almost caught me out as I returned to the track but I was now at the back of the field but everyone else still had to stop. Slowly my name moved up the leaderboard and when Fulvio pulled out of the pits I was on his tail and looking to get 3rd place back so I pushed hard for a lap and finally squeezed the pass. But, the early pitstop had left me very marginal on fuel and I was having to short shift and take corners one gear higher than I wanted. This did not help the rear tyres which were now looking very sorry as the torque of the Aston was spinning the outside tyre at each corner.
With 3 laps to go Fulvio was all over my tail and I just could not push any harder if I wanted to get to the flag. Fulvio made his move as we started up the hill towards the S/F line and I just could not hold the inside line. The rear gave up the fight and I spun into Fulvio..yes there was contact Fulvio..but it was my fault not yours  :-\.
I just had to stop for a splash of fuel with a lap to go and that allowed Erling and Fulvio to get away.

Edit: just looked at the table and I appear to be shown as a lap down?? Don't recall being lapped Tony, but I have not looked at the replay yet.

Oh by the way Dan, who do I send the bill for the repairs too?  :D

Good race, I managed 3rd more by luck than skill, and Apologies for the messy start, I was so busy trying to keep off
the barrier, and not hit anyone, that I braked late, fortunately not much contact, if any, and I just went wide
and a couple sneaked through.

Geoffers,
               considering your pace in previous and the actual seasons I think it best you'd leave the car in its sorry state for now, untill we have caught up with you on the points table. Please contact my laywer for any future claims. :devil:

Cheers, Dan

Loved the track, but the Healey is my Nemesis in GTL; never had a race with it go well, and yesterday followed the tradition.

Dreadful start and first few corners, losing several places. Still flabbergasted by Dan's starts. Even if I could employ his 'countdown method' without getting a S/G, it still wouldn't make my car start to move any quicker.  Don't think I've ever seen anyone get off the line so fast in GTL - it's like his car is kicked off the line by a giant, invisible boot..  :o (Who do I have to p... off in the divine circles to achieve the same ?  ;D)

Big problems yesterday whenever another, noisy car was near. Completely drowned out my own engine, so repeatedly missed my upshifts, staying in the same gear and being easily outdragged by others.  Diced with Tony the first lap, swapping places.  Beginning of L2, he used Aston power to pull ahead on my left, then turned sharply in front of my car, slamming on the brakes simultaneously. Not a chance in H... for me of avoiding hitting him.  Fortunately none of us spun, but not too impressed with the maneuver.  Got past later and chased after Matt & Fulvio dicing ahead.

Little later, an out of place Clive showed up, and with some entanglement up ahead involving Dan I believe, I got past the two.  Clive soon past again in his faster car, but stayed ahead of Dan, and had got past Fulvio too when he had a moment.  He slowly reeled me in, but didn't quite get there before my pit at L17.  Made up places in the 2nd stint, to eventually reach 3rd; mainly by misfortune of others.  Big bummer then to run out of fuel on the final lap.  Had miscalculated the necessary amount in my stop.  Don't think that's ever happened before, but there's a first for everything, and in a Healey, something HAS to go wrong..  ::)

Grats to the podium and commiserations to any other unfortunate souls.

As explained earlier I started out very tentatively to make sure my car would indeed be where I saw it to be. Using Eifelblitz as a bit of a guinea pig it quickly appeared to be indeed solved. Cheers, ISP. Having evaded an intimate moment between Tony and Bob and taken advantage of a mistake by Eifel I got into empty territory and had a lot of, if not fast then at least consistent, laps. I got past Dan but only because he seemed to be struggling hard with an uncharacteristically unstable car. All went well until the pitstop. There I decided not to take new tyres in order to lose as little time as possible in the pits. Big mistake. The poor Fezza deteriorated quickly and became next to undriveable in the last laps. I don't know if GTL models that but it sure felt as if the rear right was on the rim.  Bob and Tony were catching up real quickly. I think I lost 5 seconds a lap in the last stages. But as they were closing in for the kill, I realized that I was lapped and had one lap less to go and with huge relief got across the line with a handful of yards left.

Congratulations to the winners and survivors. And sympathy for the unlucky ones.

Result (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/MontjuichPark_30012019)

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Thank you Kurt  :thumbup1:

Sorry if this caused you to have an incident Erling. I was taking my typical line and braking point for the tricky hairpin but obviously failed to appreciate your closing velocity. Please accept my apologies.

Spent most of last night being tailed by Bob or trying to catch Dominic. Had two moments with Bob. One when he tapped my rear on the fast uphill section which unfortunately span me around and gave two following drivers  a bit of a moment. I was mystified by this accident as I wasn't braking so couldn't figure why Bob had touched me. It was only when I watched the replay when I saw that Bob had been attempting a cheeky pass on my LHS, between my car and the barrier, when I had closed the door on him, causing his car to tap my nearside left. No harm done but we both lost time to the rest of the field.
Much later in the race I was racing Dom (I think?) lapping SeniorDan up to the first turn with Bob in the distance. I think we were lapping him? so he slowed to let us pass but as I braked hard to take the hairpin I lost steering (I had my front brakes turned right up) and collided with an almost stationary and innocent Bob. Sorry for the hit which was all my bad.
Catching Dom was fun and if we had had a few more laps I think Bob and I would have had him cold.
Great track, lovely cars and loads of incidents. No better way to spend a Wednesday night IMO. Oh heck, it's Charade next. Hope the tyre wear is better than in Spain.

One of the better races I have had as far as close competition.  As Tony said I tucked in behind him for about the first half of the race.  The Healey was handling better than his Aston but didn't have the speed to pass him.  Got door to door several times but thats all I could manage.  Sorry about the try for the inside pass on the big uphill sweeper but just had to try it.  I think about that time our tires were marginal, and I was gaining on you, just had to try it and hope you would slip wide.  Then about l16 or 17 you pitted and I decided to run a few more laps to l20, but tires forced me to pit about 18 or 19.  I had just came out of the pits when our second incident happened.  Was braking early for the turn on cold tires and didn't even see you in my mirror. We recovered OK so no harm there.  Just racing....Sorry to the two or three guys that had problems on the last couple of laps.  I have always enjoyed that track, we ran it almost every year in the GTC series over at GC.  Kind of like a street race but with a nice wide track and great corners.  See you all in the desert at Stardust. 

Bob M.

Bob M.

No worries Tony, we were lucky.  I'm very careful if I'm following someone closely, so I don't get caught out by his braking, but didn't anticipate your move.

You were lapped by Ziu when you took your 2nd pit stop (replay time 3529).

I agree Tony, just looked at replay and watched in dismay at Ziu sailing through  :-\ I still think that my first pitstop was something special lol, although it did leave a slight blemish on the door  :whistling:

However having watched the replay in full...............you definitely finished in front of Dom, Myself and Bob so you should be shown as being in 4th place. I will change the results to reflect this.

EDIT: I will watch the replay again just to double check this.

Eifel's result sheets also show Clive in 4th and I do remember seeing him in front of me -for a short while- late in the race. So it seems Clive did it again; giving people false hope through game glitches  :P
In other news, I looked whether that affected the championship standings and lo and behold, I'm in 3rd  :o.
Can we call the Championship like right now? Pretty please  :angel: