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Title: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 14, 2018, 03:22:45 PM +0000
Championship Standings here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=642&theme=5)

Grid/server capacity: 22

RACE ONE (1960's)

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (10 mins)
Race: 20:30 (16 laps)

Track: Heartland Park, St. Topeka (GP)  Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg187122#post_HeartlandParkTopeka)

Cars allowed: 1960's
Chevrolet Chevelle, Chevrolet Impala, Ford Falcon Sprint, Pontiac GTO
                  
Car restrictions: Three drives maximum per make. Check your car allowance here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kJnYnxQnWw8NFb81UkmGwag4_M4M6p9-xaGduhdXkbE/edit?usp=sharing)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit stops: Not required

Server: simracing.org.uk Wednesday
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: Note early race start.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 17, 2018, 04:55:37 PM +0000
IMPORTANT

For the car/track pack download link send a pm to WT please.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Geoffers on December 22, 2018, 10:42:44 PM +0000
Tony, I see you are aiming to have these races last about 30 mins, so using the GP layout of this track I reckon on the races being 16 laps, not 20. Or am I using the wrong layout?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 23, 2018, 12:12:16 AM +0000
Tony, I see you are aiming to have these races last about 30 mins, so using the GP layout of this track I reckon on the races being 16 laps, not 20. Or am I using the wrong layout?
Hmm, the GP layout is the longest configuration so I will reduce the lap no's to 16. Thanks for the heads up Geoffers.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 24, 2018, 05:08:27 PM +0000
Just spent a most enjoyable afternoon testing out all of the cars on this demanding circuit. Bonus points for anyone who has a tyre left in usable condition after this race. It is a great circuit but it does take some learning, particularly which turns you can take with some power on  8), and which you can't  :o


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: EvilClive on January 04, 2019, 05:16:31 PM +0000
?? puzzled of Pontefract here  ???

Heartland St Topeka and Toban GP are the same track?? or have I got some files crossed up here???


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Geoffers on January 04, 2019, 05:28:54 PM +0000
?? puzzled of Pontefract here  ???

Heartland St Topeka and Toban GP are the same track?? or have I got some files crossed up here???

Err, no they are not the same, Heartland is fairly flat whereas Toban is very hilly. Have you tried them both?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: EvilClive on January 04, 2019, 06:21:33 PM +0000
Yes I have Geoff, which is why I was confused, and suspected that  ( once again  :-\ ) I have a glitch.

I think I will delete both tracks from my GTL install, and then re-install the tracks from the download links in the race posts.

 Toban appears to have 4 variants on my circuit list and Heartland just the one configuration. The track I have driven ( which is the same under both titles ) starts with an uphill section over a blind crest and then a fast Right / Left through rows of cones.




Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 04, 2019, 06:34:35 PM +0000
Yes I have Geoff, which is why I was confused, and suspected that  ( once again  :-\ ) I have a glitch.

I think I will delete both tracks from my GTL install, and then re-install the tracks from the download links in the race posts.

 Toban appears to have 4 variants on my circuit list and Heartland just the one configuration. The track I have driven ( which is the same under both titles ) starts with an uphill section over a blind crest and then a fast Right / Left through rows of cones.
Heartland Park has four configurations, as does Toban.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Geoffers on January 04, 2019, 06:48:49 PM +0000
Yes I have Geoff, which is why I was confused, and suspected that  ( once again  :-\ ) I have a glitch.

I think I will delete both tracks from my GTL install, and then re-install the tracks from the download links in the race posts.

 Toban appears to have 4 variants on my circuit list and Heartland just the one configuration. The track I have driven ( which is the same under both titles ) starts with an uphill section over a blind crest and then a fast Right / Left through rows of cones.

That sounds like Heartland, Toban does indeed have 4 layouts but if I remember correctly (long time since I have driven it) 2 of those are the reverse of the other two.

Heartland is a real track whereas Toban is a fantasy one.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: EvilClive on January 05, 2019, 11:58:11 AM +0000
Yes I have Geoff, which is why I was confused, and suspected that  ( once again  :-\ ) I have a glitch.

I think I will delete both tracks from my GTL install, and then re-install the tracks from the download links in the race posts.

 Toban appears to have 4 variants on my circuit list and Heartland just the one configuration. The track I have driven ( which is the same under both titles ) starts with an uphill section over a blind crest and then a fast Right / Left through rows of cones.
Heartland Park has four configurations, as does Toban.

But we are using the long GP version of Heartland? which is the single option that I selected for download from the race post so that should be OK.

Not entirely sure where or why I have acquired the Toban listing, especially as the GP version of that track ( on my PC ) is in fact Heartland.  As I said, I will delete the Toban references later and re-download from the race post.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 05, 2019, 12:02:54 PM +0000
Yes I have Geoff, which is why I was confused, and suspected that  ( once again  :-\ ) I have a glitch.

I think I will delete both tracks from my GTL install, and then re-install the tracks from the download links in the race posts.

 Toban appears to have 4 variants on my circuit list and Heartland just the one configuration. The track I have driven ( which is the same under both titles ) starts with an uphill section over a blind crest and then a fast Right / Left through rows of cones.
Heartland Park has four configurations, as does Toban.

But we are using the long GP version of Heartland? which is the single option that I selected for download from the race post so that should be OK.

Not entirely sure where or why I have acquired the Toban listing, especially as the GP version of that track ( on my PC ) is in fact Heartland.  As I said, I will delete the Toban references later and re-download from the race post.
Yes, the GP version of Heartland. Didn't your download already contain the tracks?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: EvilClive on January 05, 2019, 12:29:47 PM +0000
 Oh yes!!

Forgot that the whole car/track package was a single download for this series. Well, I just d/loaded and let it install itself? maybe I will have to do a fresh install  :-\

I think I still have the download zip in my "downloads" folder, will check later.

EDIT.
All somewhat academic now  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( :( :( :(  Tried to re- install the "Game Data" file  for the Heavy Iron series onto a clean GTL  and the PC folded and crashed. Tried to use restore point...nothing doing ! PC unable to start. Eventually tried to restart windows 10 from the original CD. Result was a total wipe and re-install of Win 10 and a bare PC  :-\.
So I now have to re-install GTL...GPL and everything else, not particularly happy at the moment  :-\


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 05, 2019, 04:47:15 PM +0000
Oh yes!!

Forgot that the whole car/track package was a single download for this series. Well, I just d/loaded and let it install itself? maybe I will have to do a fresh install  :-\

I think I still have the download zip in my "downloads" folder, will check later.

EDIT.
All somewhat academic now  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( :( :( :(  Tried to re- install the "Game Data" file  for the Heavy Iron series onto a clean GTL  and the PC folded and crashed. Tried to use restore point...nothing doing ! PC unable to start. Eventually tried to restart windows 10 from the original CD. Result was a total wipe and re-install of Win 10 and a bare PC  :-\.
So I now have to re-install GTL...GPL and everything else, not particularly happy at the moment  :-\
Oh Dear!

I always take a system image and make a recovery disk for just such an eventuality. I would hate to lose my GTL library of tracks and cars etc.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: EvilClive on January 05, 2019, 05:50:32 PM +0000
Fortunately I had copied my general GTL install onto a memory stick and I have that reloaded. But I cannot seem to log in to the lobby? Password etc all functions but I seem to recall that the address was changed recently?? Or maybe I am mistaken?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Erling G-P on January 05, 2019, 09:40:58 PM +0000
Fortunately I had copied my general GTL install onto a memory stick and I have that reloaded. But I cannot seem to log in to the lobby? Password etc all functions but I seem to recall that the address was changed recently?? Or maybe I am mistaken?


Very sorry to hear about your unscheduled reinstall, Clive :(

This is the content of the LOCAL_IP_LOBBY.TXT file in the main GTL folder:

gtl-server.net

Maybe you have an older file in your saved copy ?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 06, 2019, 12:12:27 AM +0000
Clive, you no longer need LOCAL_IP_LOBBY.TXT. Delete it.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: EvilClive on January 06, 2019, 01:46:58 PM +0000
Thank you Tony.  :)

One more prob, (which I think someone else raised on the forum a month or two back, but I cannot find that topic).
I have checked through the files, and the upcoming Heavy Iron cars are all loaded and oddly the Heartland and Toban tracks are now both showing in the "Locations" folder and both with 4 circuit options.

I can access the game and select open practice, or race, but whichever car I select from the garage I always find that I am in the "68 1275 Mini", which just happens to be the first car on my list?





Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 06, 2019, 02:09:16 PM +0000
Thank you Tony.  :)

One more prob, (which I think someone else raised on the forum a month or two back, but I cannot find that topic).
I have checked through the files, and the upcoming Heavy Iron cars are all loaded and oddly the Heartland and Toban tracks are now both showing in the "Locations" folder and both with 4 circuit options.

I can access the game and select open practice, or race, but whichever car I select from the garage I always find that I am in the "68 1275 Mini", which just happens to be the first car on my list?
Are you running GTL in compatability mode? https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=14823.msg269549#msg269549


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: EvilClive on January 06, 2019, 02:30:58 PM +0000
Thank you Tony.  :)

One more prob, (which I think someone else raised on the forum a month or two back, but I cannot find that topic).
I have checked through the files, and the upcoming Heavy Iron cars are all loaded and oddly the Heartland and Toban tracks are now both showing in the "Locations" folder and both with 4 circuit options.

I can access the game and select open practice, or race, but whichever car I select from the garage I always find that I am in the "68 1275 Mini", which just happens to be the first car on my list?
Are you running GTL in compatability mode? https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=14823.msg269549#msg269549

Compatability set for Win 7  :-\ Am I to understand that I should NOT have ticked the box for compatability?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 06, 2019, 02:44:19 PM +0000
Thank you Tony.  :)

One more prob, (which I think someone else raised on the forum a month or two back, but I cannot find that topic).
I have checked through the files, and the upcoming Heavy Iron cars are all loaded and oddly the Heartland and Toban tracks are now both showing in the "Locations" folder and both with 4 circuit options.

I can access the game and select open practice, or race, but whichever car I select from the garage I always find that I am in the "68 1275 Mini", which just happens to be the first car on my list?
Are you running GTL in compatability mode? https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=14823.msg269549#msg269549

Compatability set for Win 7  :-\ Am I to understand that I should NOT have ticked the box for compatability?

Try unticking and see if GTL works or not i.e. you get the car you want. If GTL fails try setting compatability to Vista or Windows 8 and test again.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: phspok on January 06, 2019, 03:21:44 PM +0000
I had a similar issue once. can't remember what I did, which doesn't help you.... I will give it some thought/.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: EvilClive on January 06, 2019, 05:31:25 PM +0000
I have tried compatibility with Win 7 and Win 8.
Each allows GTL to start and I can navigate to the circuit selection and car selection.

The car selection appears quite normal and any selected car will appear in the small window, but when I move to the action and the pits...I am sitting in a 68 1275 Mini  :-\


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: phspok on January 06, 2019, 06:07:25 PM +0000
Yep, I had the same thing, I also had endless trouble trying to get it to see the right server.
One of the things I did in deperation was to install from Steam, and that just worked.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Geoffers on January 06, 2019, 06:15:54 PM +0000
Have you tried uninstalling the cars you don't need for this season Clive, maybe something is causing a clash.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: EvilClive on January 06, 2019, 06:30:54 PM +0000
Yep, I had the same thing, I also had endless trouble trying to get it to see the right server.
One of the things I did in deperation was to install from Steam, and that just worked.

Interesting, Matt, because I cannot get to the Albi lobby either????  It would appear to be the same problem.........whatever that problem is  :wacko:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: EvilClive on January 06, 2019, 06:46:55 PM +0000
Have you tried uninstalling the cars you don't need for this season Clive, maybe something is causing a clash.


I did wonder about that Geoff, and I was thinking back to the last time it all worked OK. Especially as I had that rogue Mini that Fulvio appeared to be driving at Zolder last Wednesday. I have already deleted the DB4  and the 250 GTO and replaced them with new downloads from the race post.......but that had no effect on the problem. I might delete all 4 cars for that series this evening.

Also thinking about the American Heavy Metal download and install??? which is the only other addition that I have made since the end of last season. Especially as this all started with the Toban/Heartland circuit mix-up . (Goodwood was on a separate install, so that can be disregarded.)

I guess my computer ineptitude is legendary by now  ::), but if I manually delete all of the cars for the Heavy Metal series... and the tracks that came in the download pack, and then do a fresh install from Tony's download, am I right in thinking that it should cure any issues in that area?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Geoffers on January 06, 2019, 07:20:33 PM +0000
Hopefully yes.

Or, you could uninstall all add-on cars & tracks, (use the uninstallers provided by the SROUK installers where necessary) just leaving the default cars & tracks, it doesn't take that long. Also worth deleting all the the .hat files in the UserData/LOG/HAT folder too just in case. Check then if GTL works OK. If so then install the new stuff one by one checking each time that GTL still works.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 06, 2019, 07:25:00 PM +0000
And check that you don't have a LOCAL_IP_LOBBY.TXT file lurking IN ANY GTL install.

You can use Windows Explorer to do a search for it.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: EvilClive on January 06, 2019, 08:16:25 PM +0000
I have looked for the
LOCAL_IP_LOBBY.TXT
but cannot find any evidence of it anywhere.

Just tried the Xmas Goodwood install which I had recovered from the HDD, just wondering if that would work and shed some light on what is happening. That fires up and gives me the 4 cars which I can switch around. But, I still cannot access the lobby from that install?
My normal username and the password ( represented by a row of stars) are automatically shown, but when I click the "join" arrow to go to lobby I get an "error" message? This is the same result as in my normal GTL install with the Mini infestation.

I might try Matt's suggestion of a complete fresh install, hopefully get that working as a bare GTL and joining the lobby.  Then load the Heavy Metal stuff onto that and try to access the lobby again.

I am kind of confused/perturbed that the lobby access is apparently screwed as that is about the only thing that I ever got right first time lol, and it has been unchanged and faultless until now?  Just had a thought...would the Firewall be blocking lobby access as it is a new Win 10 install??


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 06, 2019, 08:40:41 PM +0000
What does the error message say?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: EvilClive on January 06, 2019, 08:46:27 PM +0000
"Login Failed-General Error"

Just recovered an early saved GTL install from a 32Gb memory stick that I had, and copied that to my HDD.
Thought that I had a working install as it loaded up a Mustang 427 and not a Mini, until I realised that the Mustang was the top of the list in My Garage on this install and would not permit any other car to be selected, just like the 68 1275 Mini was top on the other version...... and still cannot get to the lobby  :-\


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Erling G-P on January 06, 2019, 09:07:24 PM +0000
Are you running GTL & GTLConfig in admin mode ?

Can't recall if it should cause the problems you describe if you don't, but it does affect other things so worth checking.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: EvilClive on January 06, 2019, 09:16:18 PM +0000
Are you running GTL & GTLConfig in admin mode ?

Can't recall if it should cause the problems you describe if you don't, but it does affect other things so worth checking.

Yep, tried that  :-\
UPDATE
Currently I am doing a fresh install from the original CD, because Steam insists that my current free space of 2.7 TB is not large enough to accommodate a download of GTL!!?? I never knew that GTL was so big  :-\
Will report back tomorrow.............


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 07, 2019, 12:58:48 AM +0000
DO NOT USE AN ORIGINAL CD TO PUT GTL ON YOUR WINDOWS 10 PC. YOUR ORIGINAL CD CONTAINS STARFORCE PROTECTION WHICH WASN'T WRITTEN TO WORK WITH WINDOWS 7 ONWARDS.



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 07, 2019, 09:51:55 AM +0000
"Login Failed-General Error"
If you have a "yourname".plr file available to you (find under UserData) that has worked getting you into the lobby before, copy that into your new UserData folder before you try to get to the lobby. It should work straight away without the need to re-register, as the .plr file contains your login details.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: EvilClive on January 07, 2019, 02:15:02 PM +0000
OK!! woohoo!!!!!!! I think I have cracked it  :jumpjoy: After about 5 hrs of banging my head on the top of my G25 wheel.

Win 10 completed a re-install and fortunately did not remove any of the folders on my HDD, so I was able to reconstruct my desktop.
Firstly thanks to all for their help and advice, especially to Tony and Matt for offering their GTL downloads etc.

I have installed Tony's GTL copy as a virgin install ( because it arrived first) and that worked fine OFFLINE with all the std cars and circuits. But, I just could not get access to the lobby no matter how many times I followed the various tutorials on the forum. I tried new identities and p/words and even used an old email account that I know is still acive  :-\....I got asked for the online key, but never an opportunity to enter the code.

I knew that I had my copy of GTL logged on Steam, so as a last resort I though I would pull in a fresh Steam download and try that. But Steam decided that the 2.7 TB of empty space on my HDD was insufficient for the download and asked if I could clear some old files to make room!!!??

Then I discovered a menu on Steam with " verify integrity of game files " as an option, so I figured that I had nothing to lose by trying that. It produced an alert to 3 files that were corrupted and repaired them. Unfortunately it did not say which files were wrong.

I had kept the old GTL folder that carried EVERYTHING we have used since I joined UKGTL, and that was the GTL that had received the repair. So I fired that massive folder up and it came to life. I was fully expecting to have a 68 1275 mini again, but woohoo!!! I could select any car and drive it.

Then I tried the Multiplayer/Internet option and sailed straight through to the lobby, where I could access the Heartland practice. Strangely, when I tried to insert that into Tony's version before it would not work  ???

So I figured that I must now have a .plr file that was valid ( I may be old and dumb, but sometimes I have lucid moments!  ;) ) So, I deleted the .plr file in Tony's clean version and copied the one that I knew worked into that install.
So I ( think) that I now have a clean/virgin GTL install with a valid connection to the lobby. Plus I still have my old install working with all of the setups etc, which I can transfer when required.

Next job is to make a copy of the clean install and stuff Tony's Heavy Metal download into it and then try on-line again. But that will have to wait until I have walked the dog...he has 4 legs crossed and is whimpering!!

Thanks again to everyone.



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: SpecialKS on January 07, 2019, 02:18:26 PM +0000
Phheeew - glad to hear that you've got it, Clive.

Mode a new install for 2019 by "copy&paste" and it works online and offline except XD tool ??? - have to work on this.

CU on track.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 07, 2019, 04:25:54 PM +0000
Hurrah!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: EvilClive on January 07, 2019, 05:22:33 PM +0000
Well almost  ::), but I think this must be a very simple fix and something obvious that I am missing.

I have created a copy of the virgin GTL and re-named it GTL American Iron. A shortcut was created and placed on my desktop and tested....GTL opens as the original game.  :thumbup1:

Re-downloaded a copy of Tony's 1.3mb American Iron car pack, unzipped and directed the install to the GTL American Iron folder. All appeared OK and a lot of stuff was transferred.

Downloaded the Heartland Park circuit from the race post, and directed the install to the same place. The usual install box popped up and appeared to do its job.

Checked with Windows Explorer and the cars and track appeared in the relevant folders under GTL American Iron.

Start game and................boots up OK, but no yank tank cars to select and no Topeka ( Heartland ) tracks either??


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: phspok on January 07, 2019, 05:32:10 PM +0000
The American Iron zip has gamedata as it's top level directory, so you need to unzip it
from the top level GTL directory, or perhaps you have a gamedata within another lower directory now?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Erling G-P on January 07, 2019, 05:33:21 PM +0000
Well almost  ::), but I think this must be a very simple fix and something obvious that I am missing.

I have created a copy of the virgin GTL and re-named it GTL American Iron. A shortcut was created and placed on my desktop and tested....GTL opens as the original game.  :thumbup1:

Re-downloaded a copy of Tony's 1.3mb American Iron car pack, unzipped and directed the install to the GTL American Iron folder. All appeared OK and a lot of stuff was transferred.

Downloaded the Heartland Park circuit from the race post, and directed the install to the same place. The usual install box popped up and appeared to do its job.

Checked with Windows Explorer and the cars and track appeared in the relevant folders under GTL American Iron.

Start game and................boots up OK, but no yank tank cars to select and no Topeka ( Heartland ) tracks either??

And your shortcut does point to the American Iron folder, and not the virgin install ? (I know, stupid question, but still...  ;))


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: EvilClive on January 07, 2019, 05:39:37 PM +0000
Told you it was a simple problem......just like me.

In all the excitement I had indeed created a shortcut to the virgin copy......... Tony stop smirking!!  :1eye:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 07, 2019, 06:03:16 PM +0000
Told you it was a simple problem......just like me.

In all the excitement I had indeed created a shortcut to the virgin copy......... Tony stop smirking!!  :1eye:
And you don't need to download the tracks. They are included in the download  ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: EvilClive on January 07, 2019, 06:10:58 PM +0000
Now things are working properly, I can see that the tracks are there too  ;)

This evenings task is to sort out the graphics which are a little crude ATM. But that is gonna be easy peasy after the last 24 hrs....................maybe.


On the up side, thanks mainly to you Tony, I have the facility to create dedicated GTL's for each championship series. I also realise that this now means I also have an automatic backup installed and ready to run, so maybe this will be the last marathon session of questions and answers?  ::)



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 07, 2019, 08:12:48 PM +0000
I doubt it


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: EvilClive on January 08, 2019, 09:09:58 AM +0000
I doubt it

O ye of little faith ::),   or maybe just more worldly experience  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: seniordan on January 08, 2019, 09:13:06 AM +0000
Guys, won't be there for Wednesday's race, family visit.

Have fun all, Dan


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: EvilClive on January 08, 2019, 04:45:12 PM +0000
Can anyone direct me to the Virtual Mirror widget. I have the standard car mirrors working on these beasts, but they are less than ideal  :-\


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 08, 2019, 04:55:53 PM +0000
Can anyone direct me to the Virtual Mirror widget. I have the standard car mirrors working on these beasts, but they are less than ideal  :-\
It's under OPTIONS/ADVANCED, tick box on RHS column


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: EvilClive on January 08, 2019, 05:34:51 PM +0000
Thanks Tony.......yet again  :-\


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Geoffers on January 08, 2019, 07:06:16 PM +0000
The race is going to be a bit of an anticlimax after all this. :whistling:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: EvilClive on January 08, 2019, 07:16:25 PM +0000
lmao!!! 

Of course it might have been my intention to divert everyone's attention whilst I enjoyed some intense practice  ::) and all of this was just a smokescreen and there was nothing wrong with my GTL install and computer.

But I doubt that you would believe that story.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: phspok on January 09, 2019, 11:16:49 AM +0000
It says tyre wear normal... the tyre wear seems very high in these? perhaps not all?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Erling G-P on January 09, 2019, 11:59:36 AM +0000
It says tyre wear normal... the tyre wear seems very high in these? perhaps not all?


You haven't perhaps made the same mistake as me ?  - From practice for the previous race, I had GTL set up with 2x tyre wear & fuel consumption. Forgot to reset it before my first test of these cars.  Tyre wear was alarming to say the least, but even after resetting to 1x, it's still substantial - it's Heavy Iron after all  :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 09, 2019, 12:19:15 PM +0000
These yank tanks always eat tyres Matt.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: phspok on January 09, 2019, 12:45:12 PM +0000
True, was just curious as to whether pit stops might be needed.
and do they all eat the tyres the same, or does one not at all?
I won't have time to do long runs in all of both sets of cars.
What testing I have done is all on line.
(Thinking of the AC GPL mod where the BRM eats tyres for fun, but the other don't)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 09, 2019, 01:23:32 PM +0000
In the cars that I have tested, all have had large tyre wear but not enough to consider pitting for.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: EvilClive on January 09, 2019, 04:39:16 PM +0000
Isn't that what tyres are for on these cars? to smear them all over the tarmac??  ;D

Actually I'm not finding the tyre wear too bad, at least in the  3 or 4 cars I have tested today. Resisting the urge to thrash those V8's and rip the rubber from the rims in the occasional powerslide is the big problem for me.  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Dominick on January 09, 2019, 06:13:34 PM +0000
If I don't make it tonight, it's my power surge protector which would be the cause. It's been acting up all day, shutting down the PC for no reason.
If I do, beware! I knew this track sounded familiar and it is as it has the great honour of being the venue of one of my very rare wins over at NG. That was in a nimble Alfa GTA though, no chance that'll repeat itself with these.... Clive cars.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 09, 2019, 10:23:56 PM +0000
Results and replay now posted.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Bob M. on January 10, 2019, 08:08:42 PM +0000
Enjoyed the Heavy Iron races a lot.  R1 was really enjoyable because we had very close racing at the back.  Misnoimis and myself had a good race going for almost the first half of the race and always had Tony or Kurt in my rear view also.  Finally the tires went away I would guess on his GTO and I got him passed cleanly going over the hump into T1,T2,T3 area were the Falcon seemed to be better than the GTO.  Problem was the GTO was faster down the straight so took awhile for me to get him in a close position to overtake him.  Then Erhling joined us after a off I guess and he and Misnoimis battled behind me so had a chance to pull away from them guys.  Then Erling won that battle and closed rapidly on me and he chased me until he had a off in the T1,2,3 area in his GTO.  Was making the Falcon as wide as possible and useing all the track to hold him off.  Maybe his car was wounded also because I'm not in his league as far as talent goes.  In the closing laps I started closing on Roger in his Falcon which he was conserving fuel on and he conked out on the last turn before the S/F straight. If you wouldn't have been so far off track I would have pushed you to the S/F.....
R2 was a disaster for me.  I had lost all focus on racing, even though I was in the GT500 which was one of my favorite rides in the old Muscle Car League.  Got crossed up early on the S/F hump and went into the tire barrier and the suspension was messed up for the duration of the race.  All in all good fun for me and I hope you guys enjoyed it also.  Someone made a comment that the 60's cars were just as fast as the 70's.  The reason for that is that almost all the cars were originally in the old GC MCl and were set up to be just that, competative with each other overall but some faster but the slower ones handled a little better or were easier on tires or such.  Only the 66 Chevy Impala is not of that group, one that Tony found, but in my tests it was fast, but handled like a big old 66 Chevy Impala, I know we had one back in the day and it was a nice ride but was a true Yank Tank, squealing the tires if you went around a corner just a little too fast  Ours had a 327 V8 not the 427 motor.I think it will be my choice for the ovals, just for grins.  Geez I really rattled on, see you next week.....

Good Fun
Bob M.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: SpecialKS on January 10, 2019, 09:33:11 PM +0000
Result_Race1 (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/Heartland_09012019_R1)

8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 10, 2019, 10:07:12 PM +0000
Result_Race1 (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/Heartland_09012019_R1)

8)
Thanks Kurt  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: misnoimis on January 11, 2019, 06:01:03 PM +0000
I quite enjoyed my race on Wednesday. After my problems at Goodwood last week anything was going to be enjoyable. My keyboard and mouse was intermittently working and not working. I’m now convinced that my setup wasn’t loaded for a start. And also it turned out that I wasn’t refuelling properly. I obviously wasn’t paying attention but realised the problem later in the race when I noticed I was running out of fuel and just wasn’t able to refuel at all. After the race I changed the batteries, checked the connections, dusted the receiver but no joy. For some reason I decided to wash the receiver with a damp cloth although doing this didn’t seem to make any sense. Miracle of miracles it worked. As it was working I decided not to even breathe on it again and was able to race with no problems this Wednesday.

I had not really done any practice other than learning the track. I started the evening practice with the default set up having picked a car at random. Made a slight change and went with it.

I had some good racing with Bob. I think I held him up at times as I had some trouble in some of the bends. I think he was right about my tyres. I think the edge went off their performance slightly later in the race. I noticed the tyre wear was quite considerable. I had some racing with others. A pity Kurt’s G25 failed or we might have had some fun.

Although I was the slowest driver I was happy that I spent the entire race on the tarmac (just) which was encouraging so I will try to make more races this year.

Grats to winner and podiums and all and thanks to Tony for the American Heavy Iron Series.  :thumbup2:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 11, 2019, 09:00:09 PM +0000
and thanks to Tony Bob for the American Heavy Iron Series.  :thumbup2:

Mike, were you not aware that there were two races?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: misnoimis on January 12, 2019, 01:17:49 PM +0000
and thanks to Tony Bob for the American Heavy Iron Series.  :thumbup2:

Mike, were you not aware that there were two races?


No I wasn't’t Tony, I thought it odd that there was such an early finish. I should have realised there was another race from your post that said Race One. Oh, and thanks also to Bob then.  :thumbup2:

At the end of Race One I noticed  a post in the Chat about changing cars for Race Two. I posted “Sorry, not able to make Race 2” but I guess it wasn’t noticed. I had arranged one of my very rare visits to my local (five minutes’ walk down the road) to sample a pint of their Draught Guinness.
 
Sorry about Race Two, I think it’s called a Senior Moment.  :-[


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: EvilClive on January 12, 2019, 09:15:32 PM +0000
and thanks to Tony Bob for the American Heavy Iron Series.  :thumbup2:

Mike, were you not aware that there were two races?


No I wasn't’t Tony, I thought it odd that there was such an early finish. I should have realised there was another race from your post that said Race One. Oh, and thanks also to Bob then.  :thumbup2:



At the end of Race One I noticed  a post in the Chat about changing cars for Race Two. I posted “Sorry, not able to make Race 2” but I guess it wasn’t noticed. I had arranged one of my very rare visits to my local (five minutes’ walk down the road) to sample a pint of their Draught Guinness.
 
Sorry about Race Two, I think it’s called a Senior Moment.  :-[



Mike sounds like a candidate for tea and cake in the spring Tony::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 13, 2019, 12:12:29 AM +0000
and thanks to Tony Bob for the American Heavy Iron Series.  :thumbup2:

Mike, were you not aware that there were two races?


No I wasn't’t Tony, I thought it odd that there was such an early finish. I should have realised there was another race from your post that said Race One. Oh, and thanks also to Bob then.  :thumbup2:



At the end of Race One I noticed  a post in the Chat about changing cars for Race Two. I posted “Sorry, not able to make Race 2” but I guess it wasn’t noticed. I had arranged one of my very rare visits to my local (five minutes’ walk down the road) to sample a pint of their Draught Guinness.
 
Sorry about Race Two, I think it’s called a Senior Moment.  :-[



Mike sounds like a candidate for tea and cake in the spring Tony::)
He would only lower the tone ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: misnoimis on January 13, 2019, 06:44:14 PM +0000
and thanks to Tony Bob for the American Heavy Iron Series.  :thumbup2:

Mike, were you not aware that there were two races?


No I wasn't’t Tony, I thought it odd that there was such an early finish. I should have realised there was another race from your post that said Race One. Oh, and thanks also to Bob then.  :thumbup2:



At the end of Race One I noticed  a post in the Chat about changing cars for Race Two. I posted “Sorry, not able to make Race 2” but I guess it wasn’t noticed. I had arranged one of my very rare visits to my local (five minutes’ walk down the road) to sample a pint of their Draught Guinness.
 
Sorry about Race Two, I think it’s called a Senior Moment.  :-[



Mike sounds like a candidate for tea and cake in the spring Tony::)
He would only lower the tone ;)

I can absolutely guarantee that I will.  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 60's & 70's American Heavy Iron - Heartland Park - Jan 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 13, 2019, 06:59:54 PM +0000
and thanks to Tony Bob for the American Heavy Iron Series.  :thumbup2:

Mike, were you not aware that there were two races?


No I wasn't’t Tony, I thought it odd that there was such an early finish. I should have realised there was another race from your post that said Race One. Oh, and thanks also to Bob then.  :thumbup2:



At the end of Race One I noticed  a post in the Chat about changing cars for Race Two. I posted “Sorry, not able to make Race 2” but I guess it wasn’t noticed. I had arranged one of my very rare visits to my local (five minutes’ walk down the road) to sample a pint of their Draught Guinness.
 
Sorry about Race Two, I think it’s called a Senior Moment.  :-[



Mike sounds like a candidate for tea and cake in the spring Tony::)
He would only lower the tone ;)

I can absolutely guarantee that I will.  ;D
I suppose I had better invite him  ::) It will end in tears. I'll send him a pm