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Title: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 15, 2018, 04:39:27 PM +0000
Championship Standings here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=646&theme=5)

Grid/server capacity: 22

RACE ONE

Practice: ~19:25 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:25 (5 mins, One attempt at a timed lap only)
Race: 20:30 (16 laps)

Track: Teratonga Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg249198#post_teretonga)

Cars allowed: Isuzu Bellett 1600GT Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_isuzu_bellett)
                       Mazda RX-3 Gr.2 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_mazda_rx3) (Exclude car #41CY)
                       Toyota Corolla KE30 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_corolla)

                       To fix the Mazda, so that it shows up in-game, download this http://www.mediafire.com/file/so9a37x756n5j2y/Mazda_TC-65_cars.zip/file
                       and overwrite the existing car files.

                       To fix the Toyota, so that it shows up in-game, download this http://www.mediafire.com/file/24k2r01heel0xgl/Toyota_TC-65_cars.zip/file
                       and overwrite the existing car files.
        
Car restrictions: One drive maximum per make/per night. You decide which race you enter which make in.

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit stops: Not required

Server: simracing.org.uk Wednesday
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: Note early race start.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: Geoffers on June 07, 2019, 04:10:35 PM +0100
Away on me hols, so will miss this un & the following weeks race at Sachsenring. Have fun guys.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 08, 2019, 11:29:26 AM +0100
Away on me hols, so will miss this un & the following weeks race at Sachsenring. Have fun guys.
Have a nice Holiday Geoffers


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 14, 2019, 12:34:39 PM +0100
IMPORTANT

Due to the server crash we suffered recently, we are now hosted on a brand new, super fast (it says here) server.

I would ask all driver's to join the Lobby at their earliest opportunity to check everything is ok.

Big thank you to Picnic who's work behind the scenes enabled me to get GTL up and running on our new server in super quick time, thanks Pete  :notworthy:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: EvilClive on June 15, 2019, 02:11:42 PM +0100
been there, checked that, all 3 cars,  :thumbup1:...…………………………………….at this moment in time  ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 15, 2019, 02:44:50 PM +0100
been there, checked that, all 3 cars,  :thumbup1:...…………………………………….at this moment in time  ::)
:whistling:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: BillThomas on June 16, 2019, 01:52:05 PM +0100
IMPORTANT

Due to the server crash we suffered recently, we are now hosted on a brand new, super fast (it says here) server.


Big thank you to Picnic who's work behind the scenes enabled me to get GTL up and running on our new server in super quick time, thanks Pete  :notworthy:

Picnic is this the same Server we use for RRE. If it is, hopefully it will sort out my “Server not Responding” problems. ???


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: phspok on June 16, 2019, 02:35:23 PM +0100
It is the same machine  Bill. All our game servers have had to be rebuilt, hence the work we had to do
last week to try to get everything looking the same. The account we use to log on has changed
which Is why I redid stuff I didn't need to.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 16, 2019, 03:49:09 PM +0100
IMPORTANT

Due to the server crash we suffered recently, we are now hosted on a brand new, super fast (it says here) server.


Big thank you to Picnic who's work behind the scenes enabled me to get GTL up and running on our new server in super quick time, thanks Pete  :notworthy:

Picnic is this the same Server we use for RRE. If it is, hopefully it will sort out my “Server not Responding” problems. ???
Bill, could this not have been posted somewhere more relevant e.g. in the RRE forum. It has  :censored: all to do with GTL or this race.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: BillThomas on June 17, 2019, 05:48:48 AM +0100
IMPORTANT

Due to the server crash we suffered recently, we are now hosted on a brand new, super fast (it says here) server.


Big thank you to Picnic who's work behind the scenes enabled me to get GTL up and running on our new server in super quick time, thanks Pete  :notworthy:


Picnic is this the same Server we use for RRE. If it is, hopefully it will sort out my “Server not Responding” problems. ???
Bill, could this not have been posted somewhere more relevant e.g. in the RRE forum. It has  :censored: all to do with GTL or this race.

Apologies Tony, you are correct!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: Bob M. on June 17, 2019, 07:33:49 PM +0100
Just now tried out the practice server.  My three car selection load fine, but the video is very jerky esp. in a corner and also the audio doesn't come out clear either, kind of crackly sounding.. Haven't changed anything on my PC.  Also want to ask what is the correct data rate setting  in the Multiplayer area, I have always used ISDL, is that OK?  Hope it's not only my PC compatabilty with the new server.  Would have a headache for sure after a few laps.

Bob M.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 17, 2019, 07:47:00 PM +0100
Just now tried out the practice server.  My three car selection load fine, but the video is very jerky esp. in a corner and also the audio doesn't come out clear either, kind of crackly sounding.. Haven't changed anything on my PC.  Also want to ask what is the correct data rate setting  in the Multiplayer area, I have always used ISDL, is that OK?  Hope it's not only my PC compatabilty with the new server.  Would have a headache for sure after a few laps.

Bob M.
Does this happen everytime you join the server (even after re-booting your PC?)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: Bob M. on June 17, 2019, 07:57:26 PM +0100
Disreguard my last transmission!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  On a hunch I did a restart on my PC and now every thing is normal.  Should have tried that before I posted, Sorry.....Can hardly wait for the new computer controled, self driving autos come out, I will be first in line to get one---NOT!!  See you all at the track.

Bob M.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: S.Cargo on June 18, 2019, 11:30:57 PM +0100
Checked acess to server: no problem with any of the three cars ! :) (except for my pace :( but this was to be expected)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: phspok on June 19, 2019, 07:19:57 PM +0100
I still have an issue with the Mazda. It CTD when I try to join even off line.
I have deleted any trace of it that I can find, redownloaded, and installed
added the overwrite zip, deleted 41cy. I can load and run with any others
but not the Mazda, and I have tried a few of them.

Oddly the Toyota was in GTC-56 dir, and the others are in TC-65
I copied the Totota dir to TC-65, and it hasn't cganged anything
it could find it before, and still does.

ANy suggestions?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: seniordan on June 19, 2019, 07:56:21 PM +0100
Maybe you shouldn't  have deleted cy41 ? It may still be on the server although it's not used.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 19, 2019, 08:05:18 PM +0100
I still have an issue with the Mazda. It CTD when I try to join even off line.
I have deleted any trace of it that I can find, redownloaded, and installed
added the overwrite zip, deleted 41cy. I can load and run with any others
but not the Mazda, and I have tried a few of them.

Oddly the Toyota was in GTC-56 dir, and the others are in TC-65
I copied the Totota dir to TC-65, and it hasn't cganged anything
it could find it before, and still does.

ANy suggestions?
The Mazda and the Toyota should be in the TC-65 folder. The Isuzu lives in the GTC-TC-76 folder. The Mazda also has a placement in the GTC-TC-76 folder. This is because both the Mazda and the Isuzu have different class cars in the one download (hope that makes sense).


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: EvilClive on June 19, 2019, 08:46:03 PM +0100
A little disappointed  :-\ Running a few laps to get used to the Bellet and watching laptimes appear on the HUD, and I happened to glance at the clock on my desk...8:36??? the first race should have started by now??

 Ok, I'll sit in the pits and watch the others go around, except they weren't. Every car on the list was frozen in position  :-\ from their onboard cameras.

Quit to the lobby and sure enough the race was showing as started. Usually I expect to see cars frozen around the track which is a good clue that something is wrong, but I saw nothing on my last few laps. Thought that I had just avoided the traffic.  :(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: roguk on June 19, 2019, 09:54:00 PM +0100
Race 1 last lap changed down 2 gears instead of 1 and car spun.
Race 2 first lap following car ahead to close braked hard and spun the car.
Race 3 on grid waiting for start got a DQ and car put back to garage.

otherwise enjoyed the cars and the racing

Grats to Winners and Podiums
 


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: Bob M. on June 19, 2019, 10:44:52 PM +0100
First two races went OK  Tapped Tony in R1, but finished.  R2 no problems at all.  R3 Left to change cars but couldn't get in, no internet.  We are having a stormy day here , lots of lightning and rain.  After a while it came back on and I ran a lap in Qual, but took to the back as I didn't trust the connection.  Then was following Matt and I believe Tony and they mixed it up on the final corner and Matt got sideways and I Zigged instead of Zagged and made contact  Sorry about that Matt.  Then about 3 laps later I lost the internet again and that finished my day.  Grats to all the podiums and finishers.  Good fun anyway..........

Bob M.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 19, 2019, 10:50:23 PM +0100
You were lagging quite badly in that last race Bob. You actually appeared inside my car at one point!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 19, 2019, 10:51:21 PM +0100
A technical problem with our new server means that there will be a delay in publishing the replay's and result's for tonight's races.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: S.Cargo on June 19, 2019, 10:54:17 PM +0100
You actually appeared inside my car at one point!
A copilot might be nice at times, but it adds weight for sure...  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: Erling G-P on June 20, 2019, 12:26:30 AM +0100
Quite liked the track, but find it hard trying to remember how to drive 3 different cars back to back.

In race 1, I outdragged Patrick down to T1, grabbing the lead.  He kept me close company over the early laps, but suddenly vanished, apparently spinning off.  Rest of the race a quiet one.  Grats to Patrick & Roger for completing the podium.

Race 2 I was surprised to be on pole in the Mazda, as it was the slowest car for me. Decent start, keeping the lead, but soon had Clive crawling all over me. Succeeded in making the Mazda sufficiently wide to keep him behind for a few laps, but then kept the door too open at T1, letting him slip past on the inside. In the following corners, I made the classic mistake of getting too close, having to back off too much, putting a wheel outside the track, with instant spin and game over with regards to battling Clive.  Rejoined 5th, behind a dreadfully warping Bob.  His car would freeze, falling behind me, only to appear ahead again.  Tried my best to stay on a different line. Not quite sure how I got past, as I couldn't tell exactly where his car was. Don't think there was any contact, at least not significant one.  Apologies if you experienced it differently Bob, but I simply wasn't sure where your car was.  Slowly reeled in Patrick over a number of laps, getting past when he lost a bit of momentum out of a corner.  7 secs to the next car up ahead and not able to close the gap, so 3rd it was.  Grats to Clive & Fulvio.

Race 3 again surprised to be on pole, as my one hotlap in the Isuzu wasn't stellar.  The start however, has to go down as the weirdest I have yet experienced in GTL!  First Clive doesn't set a time in qual, meaning he starts as one of the last.  Then as the start countdown began, I distinctly saw him get a DQ status, thinking "oh no, not again", as I believe it happened to him recently in another race. My surprise was then complete, when I was overtaken by him going into T1!!  How he could gain so much ground in such a short distance, with these closely matched cars I have no idea.  Looks decidedly strange in the replay - he starts moving much sooner than everyone else, and in 'jerky' fashion, leaving a set of broken tyre marks.  Dunno if he's taken one of Dan's 'How to jump everyone at the start' courses, but weird it looks.  Can't wait to read his own report on it.  Entire race was a fruitless chase of that red car up ahead, being unable to close the distance.  Grats to Clive for the win & Fulvio for filling the podium.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: S.Cargo on June 20, 2019, 09:31:07 AM +0100
A very pleasant, but exhausting  :sweatdrop: , evening !  :)
Fully agree with Erling
Quote
find it hard trying to remember how to drive 3 different cars back to back
Race 1: The best race for me in a long time! Pole position (easier when the "top guns" are not around  ;) ), podium and race long  :fencing: with Fulvio & Roger!
I was clearly no match for Erling but was a decent second until... I spun badly. Luckily I could recover quickly and had then to fight with Fulvio then Roger to recover that second position that the car was (at least) worth.
It seems I now have a setup for the Isuzu that I can manage and that is fast at the same time. All credit for this goes to Geoffers, as I just slightly adapted the setup that he shared after the Taupo race (and made me instantly at least 1 second faster  :thumbup1: )

Race 2: Qualification ended up in a more "normal" position. Race was also pleasant and I was a lucky third for a while (hoping for a second podium finish in a row   :drool: ), but Erling was slowly (but surely) getting closer and brought me back to earth when I was wide in Tx (x=last-1). Ended up 4th, which equals to my usual 5th spot when Geoff is around. ;) Again Geoff's setup helped a lot.

Race 3: Just as last time I expected to win the "Mazda cup" (as I was the only Mazda driver  :clown: ). Alas I had not properly checked the fuel needed for a full race, so I was not able to get this "win" or even see the chequered flag.
I had a nice battle with Fulvio though, taking advantage of the Mazda top speed but completely messed up T1 just when I had finally passed him in the straight line with a bit of margin. Again Geoff based setup here, but I need to work more on it...

@Fulvio: as briefly mentioned in chat, your brakes seem frequently (if not most of the time) to be slightly on, you probably would need to increase the dead zone on your brake pedal. Not sure if it makes much  difference, but a 1000th of a sec is a 1000th of a sec  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: EvilClive on June 20, 2019, 10:30:08 AM +0100
There was something odd about the interaction between the server and my PC last night .

For the 1st race qualification I appeared to be on a fully functioning server, posting lap times, changing setups and posting messages in chat. But it dawned upon me that something was not quite right, when the time for the race start passed and I was still doing laps. ??? It would seem that I was in a parallel universe whilst on the same server as the rest of you, who had started the race???

So I had to sit out Race 1  :-\

Race 2 with the Toyota was fun, as I find this car by far the easiest to drive. It was soon obvious that T1 would be the best place to attempt a pass on Erling's Mazda as he was clearly struggling to hold a tight line through that corner. The Toyota was just a dream through there as I could tuck it right onto the inner kerb and pour on the power. That got me past Erling who then took a spin, I hope that I did not squeeze you wide Erling  ;)
The rest of the race was an exercise in concentration, because Fulvio was close enough to take advantage of any minor error on my part. Fortunately my brain stayed in gear and I took the win.

Race 3
Not sure what to say here...... ??? :-\
  I did think that I had over anticipated the start and fully expected the dreaded DQ message. But more astonishing was the speed that my car displayed in slicing through the grid.
From my point of view it felt like everyone else was stuck in first gear??  I actually had time to consider whether I should try to pass Erling into T1, but my speed was so great that it happened almost before I thought about it. That pace advantage was clear through the first lap as I easily pulled a huge gap on a grid of equally powered cars and some very accomplished drivers. Something was clearly not right as I should not have enjoyed such an obvious advantage.
Over the 2nd and 3rd laps things settled down and the pace difference disappeared, but by then I had a comfortable cushion that allowed me to control the race.

If the authorities deem that my win is flawed then I have no problem in things being adjusted. I don't know enough about how the servers and GTL actually work, or the possible gremlins that might be active so I cannot offer any insight into what happened.
BTW I notice that Rog got a DQ in race 3. His car was directly in front of me on the grid and vanished just before the 3-2-1 countdown so not sure if that is relevant?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 20, 2019, 10:38:01 AM +0100
Results now posted. Replays now posted.

EDIT: Replay's can be downloaded from these links

http://www.mediafire.com/file/9grdy4fw7k7ymlb/20190619_Teretonga_Race_1.zip/file

http://www.mediafire.com/file/5t76ap6zjgagx00/20190619_Teretonga_Race_2.zip/file

http://www.mediafire.com/file/me9a9g6ydpuagvv/20190619_Teretonga_Race_3.zip/file


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 20, 2019, 10:54:21 AM +0100
Race 3
Not sure what to say here...... ??? :-\
  I did think that I had over anticipated the start and fully expected the dreaded DQ message. But more astonishing was the speed that my car displayed in slicing through the grid.
From my point of view it felt like everyone else was stuck in first gear??  I actually had time to consider whether I should try to pass Erling into T1, but my speed was so great that it happened almost before I thought about it. That pace advantage was clear through the first lap as I easily pulled a huge gap on a grid of equally powered cars and some very accomplished drivers. Something was clearly not right as I should not have enjoyed such an obvious advantage.
Over the 2nd and 3rd laps things settled down and the pace difference disappeared, but by then I had a comfortable cushion that allowed me to control the race.

If the authorities deem that my win is flawed then I have no problem in things being adjusted. I don't know enough about how the servers and GTL actually work, or the possible gremlins that might be active so I cannot offer any insight into what happened.
BTW I notice that Rog got a DQ in race 3. His car was directly in front of me on the grid and vanished just before the 3-2-1 countdown so not sure if that is relevant?
In the early days of GTL there was something called a "speedbug". I have never witnessed it but it does sound like what you experienced last night.
Our rules mention it thus:A driver experiencing the 'speedbug' (where the car exhibits a massive increase in grip and power) should immediately leave the server and rejoin. If it is not possible to rejoin, for example, at the race start, the driver must retire.
As it is such a rare occurence I do not propose to DQ you.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: Erling G-P on June 20, 2019, 12:13:43 PM +0100
In the early days of GTL there was something called a "speedbug". I have never witnessed it but it does sound like what you experienced last night.
Our rules mention it thus:A driver experiencing the 'speedbug' (where the car exhibits a massive increase in grip and power) should immediately leave the server and rejoin. If it is not possible to rejoin, for example, at the race start, the driver must retire.
As it is such a rare occurence I do not propose to DQ you.

So THAT's the secret behind the aliens - they're permanently affected by the speedbug..  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: EvilClive on June 20, 2019, 01:45:52 PM +0100
ummmm, move along, nothing to see here……..Arnold is just casually browsing the interweb for something called "how to activate speedbug"  ::)

Not that I would ever consider using something so underhand and sneaky  :angel: :shifty:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: SpecialKS on June 22, 2019, 04:51:02 PM +0100
Result_Race 1 (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/Teretonga_19062019_Race1)

 8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Teratonga - Jun 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 26, 2019, 02:22:16 PM +0100
Result_Race 1 (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/Teretonga_19062019_Race1)

 8)
Thanks for all the results Kurt  :thumbup1: