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Title: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Ruapuna - Dec 11
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 15, 2018, 04:55:18 PM +0000
Championship Standings here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=646&theme=5)

Grid/server capacity: 22

RACE ONE

Practice: ~19:25 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:25 (5 mins, One attempt at a timed lap only)
Race: 20:30 (12 laps)

Track: Ruapuna Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg241329#post_ruapuna2012)

Cars allowed: Isuzu Bellett 1600GT Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_isuzu_bellett)
                       Mazda RX-3 Gr.2 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_mazda_rx3) (Exclude car #41CY)
                       Toyota Corolla KE30 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_corolla)

                       To fix the Mazda, so that it shows up in-game, download this http://www.mediafire.com/file/so9a37x756n5j2y/Mazda_TC-65_cars.zip/file
                       and overwrite the existing car files.

                       To fix the Toyota, so that it shows up in-game, download this http://www.mediafire.com/file/24k2r01heel0xgl/Toyota_TC-65_cars.zip/file
                       and overwrite the existing car files.
        
Car restrictions: One drive maximum per make/per night. You decide which race you enter which make in.

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit stops: Not required

Server: simracing.org.uk Monday
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: Note early race start.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Ruapuna - Dec 11
Post by: [DTR]_Franky_Leone on December 11, 2019, 10:01:31 AM +0000
Hi . Isuzu Bellet doesn't get me on the server, :o
a greeting


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Ruapuna - Dec 11
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 11, 2019, 11:15:20 AM +0000
Hi . Isuzu Bellet doesn't get me on the server, :o
a greeting
There was a problem with the server, please try again.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Ruapuna - Dec 11
Post by: phspok on December 11, 2019, 07:36:35 PM +0000
I could join with Lapdog with no one else on the server but as soon as Kurt joined ,it threw me off
and I couldn't rejoin with any car. I may try later with a few more people, but although I can see
and join with all cars, something is up with my install. Again....


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Ruapuna - Dec 11
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 11, 2019, 09:56:34 PM +0000
What a  :censored: awful circuit!

did not have one good race all night. Just ended up over driving and having stupid spins and offs.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Ruapuna - Dec 11
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 11, 2019, 10:26:33 PM +0000
Results and replay now posted.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Ruapuna - Dec 11
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 11, 2019, 10:29:32 PM +0000
Congratulations to Erling who has won the New Zealand Motorsport Cup  :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

Worthy mention to.........

2nd - Geoffers  :clap: :clap:

3rd - EvilClive  :thumbup2:

Thanks to everyone who took part and made this an enjoyable series.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Ruapuna - Dec 11
Post by: SpecialKS on December 12, 2019, 05:48:31 AM +0000
What a  :censored: awful circuit!

did not have one good race all night. Just ended up over driving and having stupid spins and offs.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

I second that  >:(

Anyway - thanks for organizing this series containing nice cars and mostly unknown tracks  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Ruapuna - Dec 11
Post by: Bob M. on December 12, 2019, 03:46:28 PM +0000
Congrats to Erling for being the series champ and Geoffers for being right on his bumper, 4 points back.  I enjoyed this series muchly from the back or middle of the pack.  Tony did a great job of finding some off the wall tracks and 3 cars that were pretty even overall.  Close racing for me in at least 2 of the three races every week if memory serves with a great bunch of guys.
Been having some screwy connection problems the last few weeks, only happens between the races of the R1-R2 switch, R2 to R3 no problem.  Also happened last week at Laguna R1 & R2.  The lights on my modem go wacky, like I'm not getting any information.  I called my cable  provider after the races yesterday and of course they said they have had no problem in my area reported.  Must be someplace between the server and coming across the pond to me.  Weird huh?  See you all at Donington, will take a Mustang, havent had one out of the garage in years.......

Bob M.




Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Ruapuna - Dec 11
Post by: SpecialKS on December 12, 2019, 07:59:56 PM +0000
Result_Race 1 (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/11122019_Ruapuna_R1)

 8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Ruapuna - Dec 11
Post by: Geoffers on December 12, 2019, 09:21:57 PM +0000
Needed to win all 3 races to stand any chance of overhauling Erling for the championship.

First race in the Mazda (my least favourite around here) went well & due to Franky messing up his qually lap & starting at the back, I was able to get away from the pack & win the race, although Franky was able to lap faster.

Second race, it all went wrong. Got the lead at the start but then went off at T1 on lap 3 & dropped to 4th, managed to elbow my way past Tony & closed on the lead pair. Nearly caught them before spinning off & having to do it all again, got 2nd near the end when Franky had an off at T1 but was too late to catch Erling.

Final race, messed up qually by nearly losing it out of the final turn on the warm up lap, so was only just getting into 3rd gear as I crossed the line to start the qually lap, was well surprised it was still fast enough for pole. Race went without a hitch this time.

Congrats to Erling On his win & podium & to Franky & Clive on their podiums.  :clap: :clap: :clap:

And big CONGRATS to Erling on the championship win.  :notworthy: :notworthy:



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Ruapuna - Dec 11
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 12, 2019, 10:22:58 PM +0000
Result_Race 1 (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/11122019_Ruapuna_R1)

 8)
Thanks for all the results Kurt  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Ruapuna - Dec 11
Post by: Erling G-P on December 13, 2019, 12:20:41 AM +0000
Running away with the Championship was unexpected; prying them from Geoffers' tentacles is quite impossible these days, and in all honesty only happened because he missed a round more than me.

Echo Bob's thoughts about the series; has been interesting with a new, unknown track each round, but also hard having to practice with 3 cars every time.

Race 1 I was 2nd on the grid, but once again Dan's otherworldly starts brought him ahead. With two knocks from Clive, my main Championship competitor at this point, within the first few corners, I was worried about sitting behind Dan for too long, being unable to escape from Clive. Already on lap 2 however, he most kindly waved me through - that was very nice of you Dan, and really uncalled for. You're - almost - forgiven your extragalactic starts...   ;D   Geoffers impossibly fast once again, so no chance of catching him. Franky closing fast towards the end, but not enough to catch me before the race ended.

Really don't like the Mazda and found it especially atrocious on this track in my initial testing. If I as much as breathed on the brakes while in a curve, like for T1, it would immediately stop turning and plough straight on. When you went on the gas, it switched to oversteer.  Moving the brake balance towards the rear helped with the brake problem, but increased the risk of losing the rear once a bit of tyre wear crept in, so had to find a compromise.  Oversteer I couldn't solve with setup, so just had to drive around it.

Didn't expect to be able to do anything about Geoffers, but then he went off at T1, gifting me the lead.  Rest of the race was a nice battle with Franky. My main concern was not to give away too many points to either Geoffers or Clive, so considered letting him past, rather than risk an incident sending me down the field, in case an optimistic overtake attempt went wrong.  On the other hand, if I could bag a win...   Decided to see how things would play out, and it seemed the Mazda's better acceleration was just enough to keep me ahead.  Franky went off on the penultimate lap and was replaced by a closing Geoffers, but race ended before he could catch me, fortunately!

Race 3 and as Tony suggested, I hadn't read the memo about it being Toyota only  ;)  Being the only Izusu was going to be tough, and as I got nowhere near my pb in qual, I was far down the grid.  Better start than Roger, getting ahead of him, but then got held up by an incident at T1, allowing him to slip past again.  Rest of the race was a battle between the two of us.  I was never in a real position to try for a pass, so could only try to put pressure on him, hoping for a mistake, but one never materialized. Well done Roger for not buckling!
Finishing as low as 5th brought Geoffers uncomfortably close in the Championship :o, but fortunately still had a few points to spare.

Grats to Geoffers on the two wins, to Clive & Franky on their podiums, and to Geoffers & Clive on 2nd & 3rd in the Championship  :clap: :clap:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Ruapuna - Dec 11
Post by: EvilClive on December 13, 2019, 11:32:46 AM +0000
I can only echo the comments above regarding the success of this series. 3 equally matched cars ( often depending upon who was driving  ::) ) and some great short and new circuits. Many paint samples/door handles/mirrors were exchanged but all in the pursuit of good racing.

There might have been an outside chance of me disrupting Erling and Geoffers campaign for the title, but given my recent hospital visit I was running on 75% effectiveness. I had not even looked at the track until I logged on to the server at around 8:00p.m.. So there was series of aborted laps as I discovered where the next corner went and how to approach it...or not approach it.  I simply copied across the setups from the last race and hoped that they would work, or at least that was what I was going to use whatever!!
All 3 races were very similar with reasonable pace but occasional mistakes that compromised any chance of glory or even stealing the championship.

Grats to Geoffers on his usual infuriating pace and Erling on his equally needling reliability!!

FWIW It seems that there is a pre-ordained order to things in the championship tables this season and that 1st-2nd, and 3rd were organised pre season....just take a look at the pattern across all of the series   ::) lol.  Just saying :-\

Thanks to Tony for his organisation and to all members who make the racing fun.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Ruapuna - Dec 11
Post by: Erling G-P on December 14, 2019, 12:45:06 PM +0000
...FWIW It seems that there is a pre-ordained order to things in the championship tables this season and that 1st-2nd, and 3rd were organised pre season....just take a look at the pattern across all of the series   ::) lol.  Just saying :-\

You're right Clive - it's become as boringly predictable as Formula 1 these days  :-\

And here's hoping you'll soon recover 100% !


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Ruapuna - Dec 11
Post by: Geoffers on December 14, 2019, 01:28:51 PM +0000
...FWIW It seems that there is a pre-ordained order to things in the championship tables this season and that 1st-2nd, and 3rd were organised pre season....just take a look at the pattern across all of the series   ::) lol.  Just saying :-\

You're right Clive - it's become as boringly predictable as Formula 1 these days  :-\

And here's hoping you'll soon recover 100% !

I will endeavour to take the slowest car where possible next season to try & make it more interesting if you guys think it will help. One or two people dominating too much puts others off racing, it happened at NG, most of the slower guys stopped racing & it just left a handful of the faster guys left.

PS, I will be in either the Jag or Abarth at Donington next week.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Ruapuna - Dec 11
Post by: EvilClive on December 14, 2019, 02:48:50 PM +0000
……………..every day in every way I'm getting better and better!,  except for those days where I don't  :-\

It is just typically my luck that a World Masters GPL race has been organised for the 22nd Dec. The organisers have invited the top 16 drivers in GPL to take part in a 47 lap race at the 1967 Monza circuit and somehow my name has crept onto the invitation list. As I have said in the past I enjoy simracing for the "fun" element and do not usually bother with things like pre race practice. But, this is a little more serious, and I should be practising my wheel nuts off to take on the fastest guys in the world, but just at this moment I get tired far too quickly. I have no doubt that these guys will be running at close to ( or faster than) WR pace for 47 laps (approx. 1hr:30mins !!)

I'm hoping over the next week my stamina improves and I can get my "race face" on and knuckle down to some meaningful practice in the fastest cars, because for years I have either, through handicap or choice, taken the less fancied cars, so I have no current setups or race experience with the quicker machinery...…… ain't life just wonderful lol!!!



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Ruapuna - Dec 11
Post by: Erling G-P on December 14, 2019, 03:58:07 PM +0000
...FWIW It seems that there is a pre-ordained order to things in the championship tables this season and that 1st-2nd, and 3rd were organised pre season....just take a look at the pattern across all of the series   ::) lol.  Just saying :-\

You're right Clive - it's become as boringly predictable as Formula 1 these days  :-\

And here's hoping you'll soon recover 100% !

I will endeavour to take the slowest car where possible next season to try & make it more interesting if you guys think it will help. One or two people dominating too much puts others off racing, it happened at NG, most of the slower guys stopped racing & it just left a handful of the faster guys left.

PS, I will be in either the Jag or Abarth at Donington next week.

Really is a conundrum - inevitable that people will not all be equally fast (or slow). Obviously everyone would love to beat you, but if you're only operating a 50% capacity, it becomes a hollow victory anyway.  What are the races like from your perspective? - while winning never gets old, I've often found myself thinking that many of your races must be quite boring, with no one even close to posing a challenge.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Ruapuna - Dec 11
Post by: Geoffers on December 14, 2019, 05:06:32 PM +0000
...FWIW It seems that there is a pre-ordained order to things in the championship tables this season and that 1st-2nd, and 3rd were organised pre season....just take a look at the pattern across all of the series   ::) lol.  Just saying :-\

You're right Clive - it's become as boringly predictable as Formula 1 these days  :-\

And here's hoping you'll soon recover 100% !

I will endeavour to take the slowest car where possible next season to try & make it more interesting if you guys think it will help. One or two people dominating too much puts others off racing, it happened at NG, most of the slower guys stopped racing & it just left a handful of the faster guys left.

PS, I will be in either the Jag or Abarth at Donington next week.

Really is a conundrum - inevitable that people will not all be equally fast (or slow). Obviously everyone would love to beat you, but if you're only operating a 50% capacity, it becomes a hollow victory anyway.  What are the races like from your perspective? - while winning never gets old, I've often found myself thinking that many of your races must be quite boring, with no one even close to posing a challenge.

As you say Erling winning never gets old & a lonely race out front is much better than a lonely race at the back of the field, however some of the more exciting races this year have been the Mini ones where I have had to start from the back & ones where I have made an early mistake & had to work my way back towards the front & of course the ones where I have not been in one of the faster cars. The way Tony sets up most of the series you can't drive the fastest car all the time anyway, but similarly I cannot always take one of the slower ones as you have to drive all the different cars. Most races this year I have chosen the car I think best suits the track from those available, maybe I should do the opposite & race the least suitable car. As you say it is a conundrum. We need more series like the French F3, where I can make the car fast but can't get the tyres to last so have really struggled just to get to the flag, but I have had fun.






Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Ruapuna - Dec 11
Post by: EvilClive on December 14, 2019, 05:21:15 PM +0000
I don't object to Geoffers and Erling usually dominating the podium steps, as far as I am concerned, it is up to me to improve and push them off  ::) if I want to get my hands on the silverware.
But, I have to say that I do enjoy the fun atmosphere within UKGTL regarding the racing right throughout the grid, and I hope that is never lost.

In my years of experience in GPL the "fast guys" are fast in whatever they are given to drive. Aliens will win in a wonky wheeled shopping trolley vs a Mercedes F1 car 90% of the time.
In UKGPL we have tried various handicapping options ( cars/penalty pitstops/SnG's etc) and the aliens still win lol, all we seem to do is reduce the margin!!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Ruapuna - Dec 11
Post by: Erling G-P on December 14, 2019, 08:32:39 PM +0000
I don't object to Geoffers and Erling usually dominating the podium steps, as far as I am concerned, it is up to me to improve and push them off  ::) if I want to get my hands on the silverware.
But, I have to say that I do enjoy the fun atmosphere within UKGTL regarding the racing right throughout the grid, and I hope that is never lost.

In my years of experience in GPL the "fast guys" are fast in whatever they are given to drive. Aliens will win in a wonky wheeled shopping trolley vs a Mercedes F1 car 90% of the time.
In UKGPL we have tried various handicapping options ( cars/penalty pitstops/SnG's etc) and the aliens still win lol, all we seem to do is reduce the margin!!

Lol, very true about the aliens Clive :)   Here's some amusing statistics from the KAD Mini series:  Out of 8 Race 1s, Geoffers has finished 2nd once, 3rd once and won the rest. That means he's been hit by the qualification ban in all but one race 2. In 8 race 2s, he's finished 2nd once and won the rest - he's doing better when banned from qualifying !!  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Ruapuna - Dec 11
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 14, 2019, 09:44:20 PM +0000
What all you fast guys miss is all the excellent battles and driving of us backmarkers.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 New Zealand Motorsport Cup - Ruapuna - Dec 11
Post by: EvilClive on December 14, 2019, 10:47:44 PM +0000
I did make reference to that Tony   "  fun atmosphere within UKGTL regarding the racing right throughout the grid, and I hope that is never lost. "

Perhaps, in defence of Geoffers and Erling they cannot see all the action in their rear view mirrors because there is a car that is bouncing over kerbs, throwing up dust and grass and weaving demonically from side to side and blocking their view!!! …….just saying  ::) :-\