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Title: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: Cookie on January 03, 2019, 03:33:41 PM +0000
Season 34 - 69X - Round 1 - Hockenheim

Welcome to the first round of the combined 69 extra championship.

Hockenheim, the second german F1 track, fast and furious...

For the first season we use the new 69x token system for your car choice,
so please read the rules and car ranking on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=666&theme=6)

We race in intermediate mode.

- Pro driver have no shift+r available
- Intermediates and Amateurs have a single shift+r with a stop and go in the pits available!


Only reported incidents will be moderated, there is no Red Zone.

Race List =  IGOR
Server = UKGPL_8
IP Address = look at IGOR
Race date = 15-01-2019
GPL mod = 69X
60fps patch used = 60fpsV1
Track = Hockenheim  
Qualification = 20:45  UK time -> 45min
Race = race starts at ~21:30 UK time
Race length = ~50 min -> 28 laps
Damage Model = Intermediate
Replay = here (ftp://ftp.ukgpl9.co.uk:32122/Season34)

GLA and have FUN

Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver        Tokens  Status
AnGex
10
Pro
bagrupp
10
Pro
Cookie
10
Pro
DLogan
10
Pro
EvilClive
10
Pro
FullMetalGasket
10
Pro
Gareth
10
Pro
GregT
10
Pro
MagicArsouille
10
Pro
uli
10
Pro
Billy Nobrakes
20
Am
dave curtis
20
Am
francesco
20
Am
miner2029er
20
Am
Phil Thornton
20
Am
Rainier
20
Am
Ronnie Nilsson
20
Am


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: Cookie on January 05, 2019, 03:51:58 PM +0000
For testing the mod I have UKGPL_8 running at igor


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: Gareth on January 05, 2019, 06:58:43 PM +0000
Erm, I was an am yesterday, have I been promoted or was is seeing things?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 05, 2019, 07:16:38 PM +0000
Erm, I was an am yesterday, have I been promoted or was is seeing things?
It was a typo in my part, sorry Gareth. I corrected it yesterday but obviously not before you spotted it.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: Gareth on January 05, 2019, 07:23:06 PM +0000
Erm, I was an am yesterday, have I been promoted or was is seeing things?
It was a typo in my part, sorry Gareth. I corrected it yesterday but obviously not before you spotted it.
No apology necessary.  :-*


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: Cookie on January 14, 2019, 05:26:02 PM +0000
Training server is running with PW = 60fpsV1


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: francesco on January 14, 2019, 05:43:16 PM +0000
teted the server,the 5th gear work .Hope for tomorrow :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: Cookie on January 14, 2019, 06:05:54 PM +0000
Yes, UKGPL_8 is a gourmet and eats only original 67s gears  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: EvilClive on January 14, 2019, 06:33:52 PM +0000
Fran, if you have 5 gears in 69x but only 4 gears in 67, have you looked at the GPL screen that shows driving level?

Are you driving at "Grand Prix" level for ALL mods. If you have "Novice" level checked you will only have 4 gears AND reduced revs ( which I have also heard you mention)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: francesco on January 14, 2019, 07:14:25 PM +0000
No Evilclive happen only online. When i schwitch to GEM,so not online,the same mod work,tested one time during a qualification.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: Cookie on January 14, 2019, 07:16:48 PM +0000
Get the new Setup Manager here: http://gplmotorworks.gplworld.de/


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: francesco on January 14, 2019, 10:22:35 PM +0000
Into this setup manager there is a zip named vb6.The files must be copied into the Syswow64?since i have windows 64 bit.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: Cookie on January 14, 2019, 11:12:30 PM +0000
maybe into system32... but I do not know, as it works out of the box here ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: Clive Loynes on January 15, 2019, 07:59:44 AM +0000
Hi Fran, sorry to hear that this problem persists.

Does it still happen if you use the default setup?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: francesco on January 15, 2019, 08:13:23 AM +0000
Quote
Hi Fran, sorry to hear that this problem persists.

Does it still happen if you use the default setup?
Never tested until now.Anyway ,looking at SRMZ i'm not the only one.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: francesco on January 15, 2019, 08:44:10 AM +0000
Quote
maybe into system32... but I do not know, as it works out of the box here
Nothing to do also with the VB6 files putted into Syswow64. :-[
I don't know the origin of this runtime error 380.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: francesco on January 15, 2019, 10:17:48 AM +0000
After this i have done a test with my old GPL.exe on the disk E and the program work.Second step substitution of the gpl.exe with the old but the program read only my old gpl.exe with the old player.So there is something in my gpl.exe.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: uli on January 15, 2019, 09:37:07 PM +0000
Bad season start to night :(
I couldn't join the server. Everytime i tried GPL crashed. I could join ALL other servers in igor with the exception of the UK sever :( ??? Also to join over iP was not possible, tried other cars, no chance, no idea???   ::)
Was a great pity, because I like Hockheim races very much
May be we'll see us next race
Hope you all have had fun :)


But still an idea. The bandwidth looks differnt to all other servers?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: FullMetalGasket on January 15, 2019, 09:58:26 PM +0000
Good enough start given my time away - but I touched a sign approaching Ostkurve while shadowing Tristan and got through into the trees.
I rejoined to find the engine spluttering but decided to press on
Only to then discover the fuel tank was holed so I ran out of fuel anyway before even finishing the lap ::)

Tried to watch the race and then GPL crashed anyway.

Oh well, at least it was only 5 points....
Good fun while it lasted though!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: Cookie on January 15, 2019, 10:04:45 PM +0000
@Uli
the Bandwith is for 60fps! and the server is set to override client settings!

Shame I made some mistakes and allways recovered into the front fight to make the next spin...
Finaly my engine blew ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: francesco on January 15, 2019, 10:34:59 PM +0000
Sorry Rainier,i was concentrated to not touch the Matra in front of me and i have not seen your car.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: Ronnie Nilsson on January 15, 2019, 10:41:22 PM +0000
This was a good race, and most interesting to see the difference in downforce settings. I was running about 4-4.5 degrees, so I was fast through Ostkurve, and eventually made my way up to 4th. Then in the last five laps, Clive started reeling me in like a kipper. On the last lap he overtook me, and then sat in the middle of the track, despite me getting a good tow. Then I missed the braking point before the stadium and clobbered him.  :(  I am so sorry, mate.  Clive made it across the line on 3 wheels. I had to reset. Tried to stop in the pits, dunno if I did before the start/finish line.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: Rainier on January 15, 2019, 10:45:48 PM +0000
Sorry Rainier,i was concentrated to not touch the Matra in front of me and i have not seen your car.

That ended well for me ...so no problem  ;D

This win is a big surprise for me as I was very slow during qually.
But, thanks to a good start and first of all to the slipstream, I could follow the leaders.
Then all leaders vanished except Andreas.  
I could overtake him on the last lap just before the stadium.

It was tough with Axel when he tried to pass between Andreas and me   :o :o ???
And also with Francesco when we overlapped him !  :sweatdrop:


 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: AnGex on January 15, 2019, 10:59:49 PM +0000
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Shame I made some mistakes and allways recovered into the front fight to make the next spin...
Finaly my engine blew ::)

Really shame, was hoping to see you up the front again.

Grats to Dave, that was a really clever Race you drove!

All in all a good start in a hopefully good season.  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 15, 2019, 11:23:05 PM +0000
I didn't expect to do very well tonight so I opted for a cheap car to increase my stash of tokens. Although I was last, I was quicker than I had anticipated but no where near quick enough to match Monsieur Rainier. Congratulations David, a brilliant race. I need to learn your secret.

Unlucky Axel, I thought you were on target to win your home Grand Prix.

I'm on holiday for a week or so, back for the 55GP race at Spa. That will be interesting after having driven these super fast machines.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: miner2049er on January 15, 2019, 11:57:27 PM +0000
Quite enjoyable hanging on to the front runners until I blew the engine, presumably after I dropped to 4 too soon at Ostkurve. Then it was a long and quite lonely race on full tanks again.

I had to reset. Tried to stop in the pits, dunno if I did before the start/finish line.

Well you stopped before the line but not in the stalls which are after it.

Glad I'm not a mod any more. :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: Cookie on January 16, 2019, 12:38:39 AM +0000
I will have a look at it...
But I think a reset and a stop in the pitlane is penalty enough ;)

Hey, I drove wings 0,75 / 0.5 wich is here my best compromise speed vs downforce


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: bagrupp on January 16, 2019, 08:25:36 AM +0000
Funny Race. Improvised a setup in 5min i had after the handball match Germany-France.

Last Lap i thougt Ronnie is out of fuel. Last Corner i see Evil very slow, but missed him by 0,12 seconds...
If i would have known that he is on three wheels..


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: miner2049er on January 16, 2019, 08:42:02 AM +0000
I will have a look at it...
But I think a reset and a stop in the pitlane is penalty enough ;)

I would agree.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: Ronnie Nilsson on January 16, 2019, 11:40:49 AM +0000
I will have a look at it...
But I think a reset and a stop in the pitlane is penalty enough ;)

I would agree.

OK, but if a driver is unable to do a S&G because it's the final lap, is he due a time penalty instead?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: Cookie on January 16, 2019, 12:08:26 PM +0000
not if he stops in the pitlane and crosses the line afterwards


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: EvilClive on January 16, 2019, 12:34:39 PM +0000
Grats to David who has become the silent assassin  ;) He has won a couple of races by being very consistent and quick, maybe a little like Alain Prost, the Professeur??

Well done David to take the Cooper to a win on a track that should have favoured the winged cars  :notworthy:

I enjoyed the race in the wingless Lotus 49, which was awesomely quick on the straights, but a real handful in any corner.  After a great start and a slipstream on the first lap I was up to 3rd and tucked in behind Axel and Tim. I had someone in a Matra (?) chasing me hard and as a result I overcooked the Ostkurve on lap 3 and hit the barriers quite firmly. This did nothing to improve the handling, but it did not limit the top speed and I was able to slowly creep back up through the field. Something had been re-arranged when I hit the barriers and braking became a little bit of lottery, and that caught me out a couple of times when I ran wide entering the stadium.
A few of the leaders exploded their engines and I was glad that I had over geared my Lotus 49 to protect my whizzy bits, upshifting at 9000rpm as an extra  safeguard. Even so, I was still seeing almost 200mph with a little slipstream, approaching the Ostkurve, but getting the darned car to slow down and negotiate the corner was an adventure on every lap.
I apologise to Ronnie for appearing to block him on the last lap, I was actually trying to command the inside line for the entry into the stadium. But I knew that Ronnie was close and I did not want to risk contact. Sorry if it looked like I was hogging the middle line.

The contact at the Stadium entry was probably as much me braking early to get the car turned in as it was Ronnie not seeing his brake marker, so a racing incident for me?. I was relieved that I still had 3 wheels and a car was the right way up, so I scraped my way to the line and only just held onto 4th place as Bastian was gaining far too quickly  :o


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: miner2049er on January 16, 2019, 12:53:16 PM +0000
not if he stops in the pitlane and crosses the line afterwards

Yes, the rules say it must be taken in the stalls but on the last lap it is not possible. Technically, a time penalty is due but Ronnie made a best attempt to comply so to penalise him I think would be unfair. If it was done mid-race to save time that's different.

I recall Mr Schumacher at Silverstone escaping a penalty as he had to serve it within 3 laps but the race finished and he finished in the pit lane.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: Rainier on January 16, 2019, 02:11:55 PM +0000
Grats to David who has become the silent assassin  ;) He has won a couple of races by being very consistent and quick, maybe a little like Alain Prost, the Professeur??

It's a very flattering comparison.
Just after yesterday's race, I feel like I imagine Peter Gethin was after Monza 1971  :)
or Vittorio Brambilla (Austria 1975)

Tristan or Robert (Fleurke) can be compared to Alain Prost ... but surely not me !

Quote from: EvilClive
Well done David to take the Cooper to a win on a track that should have favoured the winged cars  :notworthy:
It was Phil.
Very funny choice!
Congratulations, Phil ! Maybe you have the new world record for Hockenheim in Cooper 1969, did you check it ?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: EvilClive on January 16, 2019, 05:29:31 PM +0000
oops! apologies David and Phil.  :oops:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: Rainier on January 16, 2019, 06:07:29 PM +0000
Congratulations, Phil ! Maybe you have the new world record for Hockenheim in Cooper 1969, did you check it ?

It's the second best time in Hockenheim with the T86B !


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 16, 2019, 08:11:07 PM +0000
It's the second best time in Hockenheim with the T86B !
Just had a look now. I was only 1.701 seconds slower than the WR time, so actually not a bad result for me. Everyone, apart from 2 of us, posted a fastest lap that was better than the T86B WR time. So I did pick a bit of a mule, but I do have 27 tokens to carry forward to the next round ;D.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 16, 2019, 08:13:06 PM +0000
I've loaded the chassis the drivers used into the token calculator spreadsheet.  For the next race the available tokens will be as declared in the table below (the table will also appear in the next race announcement).  The calculated values are automated but selecting the cars is a manual process so please check your tokens to make sure I haven't made a silly error.  There was no token overspend for this round so no one is disqualified.

Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver        Tokens  Status
AnGex
0
Pro
bagrupp
4
Pro
Cookie
4
Pro
DLogan
10
Pro
EvilClive
15
Pro
FullMetalGasket
15
Pro
Gareth
12
Pro
GregT
10
Pro
MagicArsouille
10
Pro
uli
10
Pro
Billy Nobrakes
20
Am
dave curtis
17
Am
francesco
14
Am
miner2029er
14
Am
Phil Thornton
27
Am
Rainier
13
Am
Ronnie Nilsson
13
Am


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 16, 2019, 08:24:55 PM +0000
I do have 27 tokens to carry forward to the next round ;D.
But I must admit, I'd rather have 50 points than 27 tokens  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: dave curtis on January 16, 2019, 10:07:35 PM +0000
Not trying to be funny,  but shouldn't us lowly ams have aother 10 tokens?

The series outline states:
Quote
Drivers will be allocated 10 tokens at the start of the season with a further 10 tokens for each race they start
<snip!>

Drivers who are classed as "Amateurs" will be given additional tokens.  This will take the form of 20 additional tokens at the start of the season.
<snip!>


So, that's 10 + 20 to start the season,  with an additional 10 per event as normal...?



This is compared to the 66-series blurb, which does state 10 tokens to start, with additional 10 for ams...
Quote
Drivers will be allocated 10 tokens at the start of the season with a further 10 tokens for each race they start (including their first race).
<snip!>

Drivers who are classed as "Amateurs" will be given additional tokens.  This will take the form of 10 additional tokens at the start of the season.
<snip!>


So should there be another 10 tokens in store for ams?

Phil - would put you a bit closer to 50 tokens :)

Cheers,
Dave.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: bagrupp on January 17, 2019, 08:22:37 AM +0000
uh, not noticed yet that i was "pro"moted  :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: MagicArsouille on January 17, 2019, 09:05:09 PM +0000
Tuff race whith the BRM  exept when I can profit of the slipstream....then I can rejoin the lead but have to go out of track in the break phase to not hit Dave at the end of the straight line ...and loose contact to the lead....I can recover again and finish on the podium....:)

Bravo Dave super victory !.

thx all and org.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: Ronnie Nilsson on January 18, 2019, 06:22:53 PM +0000
Yes, slipstreaming makes a lot of difference on this track. I had a good tussle with Bastian for a few laps, but once I had finally got out of slipstreaming range, he fell back noticeably.  And then he passed me a few 100 metres from the finish line, as I crashed! :D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: GregT on January 19, 2019, 06:34:12 PM +0000
Congrats Dave! I'm not surprised by the win. You often show great consistency.

It's a shame I missed it. It looks like Tim and Clive may be thinking similar to me. I hope to use the 49 and 49b for the season, pretending that I'm Graham Hill.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: bagrupp on January 22, 2019, 09:15:48 AM +0000
Yes, slipstreaming makes a lot of difference on this track. I had a good tussle with Bastian for a few laps, but once I had finally got out of slipstreaming range, he fell back noticeably.  And then he passed me a few 100 metres from the finish line, as I crashed! :D

yes a shame. i thougt you be running out of fuel


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: uli on January 23, 2019, 08:14:08 PM +0000
I‘m sure that my login prob had something to do with the 60fps.
The 60fpsv2newmod patch was installed, active and works perfectly with the 55 and the 65 mod.
Only the 69x mod had a prob if 60 fps is running?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: Cookie on January 23, 2019, 09:30:31 PM +0000
I‘m sure that my login prob had something to do with the 60fps.
The 60fpsv2newmod patch was installed, active and works perfectly with the 55 and the 65 mod.
Only the 69x mod had a prob if 60 fps is running?

Yes Uli that's the problem

69X uses 60fpsV1 patch
!!
it does not work with other patches!!!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1969x F1 - Hockenheim - Jan 15
Post by: uli on January 24, 2019, 09:23:13 PM +0000
thank you very much Axel