Title: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: Phil Thornton on January 30, 2019, 11:03:21 PM +0000 Season 34 – 1955 Grand Prix – Round 2 – Spa-Francorchamps
The second race in the 1955 Grand Prix series takes us to Spa-Francorchamps in Belgium. Designed in 1920 the original triangle-shaped course used public roads between the Belgian towns of Francorchamps, Malmedy, and Stavelot. The track was intended to have hosted its inaugural race in August 1921, however the first car race was held at the circuit in 1922. Spa was the fastest road circuit in Europe at the time, and it had a nasty reputation for being dangerous and very fast- it was a circuit known to be one for the brave, and most drivers were frightened of it. The old Spa circuit was unique in that speeds were consistently high with hardly any let-up at all for 3–4 minutes. This made it an extraordinarily difficult mental challenge (& ridiculously easy to crash). Please read the championship specific rules on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=664&theme=6).
Please restrict chat to emergency messages only including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line. Password: see above (#post_event_password) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=664&theme=6) Handicapping and chassis allocation. This season the 1955 Grand Prix cars will again be using a token system which allows drivers to purchase any chassis of their choice for a given number of tokens as published on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=664&theme=6). Drivers classed as Amateurs will be allocated an additional 10 tokens. The token allocation will not be managed in SRou this season so (unlike the 67F1 Works and 67F1 Privateer divisions) the tokens available to each driver will not appear in the championship table (when the mouse pointer is hovered over the driver's total). Rather, the available tokens will be published in the race announcement. See table below. Available Tokens: Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: Clive Loynes on January 31, 2019, 01:12:55 PM +0000 Looking forward to this, even though I don't often get to see the finish line at Spa in any guise!
Last year I think that I limped to the finish after vaulting the Armco at Les Combes after a couple of laps. Hoping for better things this time. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: Rich Welsh on January 31, 2019, 02:57:08 PM +0000 Looking forward to this, even though I don't often get to see the finish line at Spa in any guise! Last year I think that I limped to the finish after vaulting the Armco at Les Combes after a couple of laps. Hoping for better things this time. I'm looking forward to it as well,not sure which car to take !I did a few laps in the Merc SL,its fast, but is it fragile ? how much can you safely rev it to for race distance Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: Clive Loynes on January 31, 2019, 03:32:14 PM +0000 Looking forward to this, even though I don't often get to see the finish line at Spa in any guise! Last year I think that I limped to the finish after vaulting the Armco at Les Combes after a couple of laps. Hoping for better things this time. I'm looking forward to it as well,not sure which car to take !I did a few laps in the Merc SL,its fast, but is it fragile ? how much can you safely rev it to for race distance Personally, I think that there are too many corners involved to make the SL an option for me. Some like it. It has never struck me as being fragile. It is also a difficult race and if you are going to "invest" such a pile of Thornton Dollars I would be looking at the odds of getting a return for my investment, as opposed to stuck to a tree somewhere. My server is running and I will try to keep it going until the race as I'm trying to encourage some of the PDLR racers to join us. However, they are a bit wary of the 60fps. The Lancia is a good car and can usually keep up with the SL by slipstreaming. Still a lot of dollars though. You mainly want something that you can get to the finish. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: Phil Thornton on February 01, 2019, 07:39:48 AM +0000 Practice server (UKGPL_4) is up on IGOR. Please test your connections and give Clive someone to practice with ;)
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: Clive Loynes on February 01, 2019, 09:15:37 AM +0000 Practice server (UKGPL_4) is up on IGOR. Please test your connections and give Clive someone to practice with ;) Much appreciated. ;-) I need someone to slipstream so that I can settle on a gear ratio that isn't going to blow the engine when I follow all the fast cars down the straight to Masta! Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: EvilClive on February 01, 2019, 10:10:11 AM +0000 We are snowed in here, so nothing better to do than get some pre race practice for Spa.
If you need a tow truck Clive, post on here when you will be on line and maybe we can hook up? Edit....Just checked Igor and I am not seeing UKGPL-4. There is a UKGPL-10 for Tripoli, but that is for 67 mod? Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: Clive Loynes on February 01, 2019, 10:34:01 AM +0000 Thanks Clive.
I probably won't get on my pc until this evening. But don't let that stop you from practicing! ;-) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: EvilClive on February 01, 2019, 10:36:54 AM +0000 OK Clive, I'm aiming for a sub 3:30 lap ;)
I am actually aiming for that time, but I won't get anywhere near it lol ::) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: Clive Loynes on February 01, 2019, 10:50:59 AM +0000 OK Clive, I'm aiming for a sub 3:30 lap ;) I am actually aiming for that time, but I won't get anywhere near it lol ::) LOL Good luck with that. I'm just aiming to finish with all the wheels still on! Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: Phil Thornton on February 01, 2019, 12:28:21 PM +0000 Edit....Just checked Igor and I am not seeing UKGPL-4. There is a UKGPL-10 for Tripoli, but that is for 67 mod? >:( I set it off in a loop this morning before I set off for work. I'll have a look when I get home and find out what is going on.Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: Clive Loynes on February 01, 2019, 01:24:59 PM +0000 I've set mine going but probably won't get to it until this evening.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: Phil Thornton on February 01, 2019, 05:00:57 PM +0000 Edit....Just checked Igor and I am not seeing UKGPL-4. There is a UKGPL-10 for Tripoli, but that is for 67 mod? >:( I set it off in a loop this morning before I set off for work. I'll have a look when I get home and find out what is going on.Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: Phil Thornton on February 01, 2019, 05:48:13 PM +0000 Had a quick praccy race with Rich Welsh. His connection was very good, no warping. Hopefully everyone is the same and the server behaves itself :angel:
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: Clive Loynes on February 01, 2019, 07:51:37 PM +0000 Panic over, Axel has towed me around.
But the time is a secret. :P Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: Phil Thornton on February 01, 2019, 08:17:49 PM +0000 Panic over, Axel has towed me around. It won't be after I check the server replay :scared:But the time is a secret. :P Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: EvilClive on February 01, 2019, 08:53:20 PM +0000 aaaaaaaaw :'( and I was hoping to gain some inside knowledge about your performance :-\
Just did a few laps on your server Clive, but no tow trucks available...always the way isn't it? Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: Clive Loynes on February 01, 2019, 10:36:51 PM +0000 Panic over, Axel has towed me around. It won't be after I check the server replay :scared:But the time is a secret. :P Damn spies are everywhere! :ninja: Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: tagomago on February 02, 2019, 08:50:33 PM +0000 Hi all
Just to say hello to everybody and thanks to Clive for welcome PDLR drivers This is the first time using 60fpsv2... not really sure about my pc ... Anyway 12 laps at Spa will be a challenge Nice laps all ;) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: Clive Loynes on February 02, 2019, 09:16:10 PM +0000 Welcome Tago, hope you have a good race.
BTW There isn't usually a password on the UKGPL chat room. But like the PDLR chat room, there will be if the first person to arrive has it set up that way. In that case I would use the pw given at the top of the page. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: Phil Thornton on February 02, 2019, 11:18:21 PM +0000 Welcome Tago. I've processed your registration, you should be able to see the password at the top of the race announcement.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: tagomago on February 03, 2019, 07:54:37 PM +0000 thanks :D
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: Alessandro Isacchini on February 03, 2019, 08:25:44 PM +0000 Hi tago, you can to install the light version of Spa, or server version
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: Cookie on February 03, 2019, 08:30:06 PM +0000 Yes, for online racing I use allways the lightest version of a track, but not server!!
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: tagomago on February 03, 2019, 08:44:16 PM +0000 Thx for the advice ... already using the light version, with low details and a few objects ... it's a matter of an ancient personal computer ;D
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: Cookie on February 03, 2019, 08:46:04 PM +0000 when you get this track running with 60fps, you can race everywhere ;)
for intel pc: disable intel speed step in GEM+ settings!!! Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: francesco on February 03, 2019, 09:47:55 PM +0000 Hammonds was not possible to attack on the straight instead that inside the chikane?my race is finished there to avoid an incident.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: Clive Loynes on February 03, 2019, 10:34:06 PM +0000 I supose that the outcome of my race was inevitable.
Trying to run a slow, car and thus needing to follow the faster ones closely to stay in the tow, when they have an accident then so do you! Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: Rich Welsh on February 04, 2019, 12:38:54 PM +0000 I really enjoyed my race last night and I think I was competitive! which gives me some hope because you all are very fast,unfortunately I got caught in the mess on Eu rouge mid race but after that I had about 4 laps of hanging on to slipstream of Fulvio and Jeep which was awesome.There was a few times I thought shall I make a pass but the revs were maxing out by the end of each straight in the slipstream(that Ferrari is fast Fulvio!!) so I played it safe hoping for a mistake from someone else,then on lap 9 I held it flat through Malmedy hoping to pick up a good slipstream early on before running out of revs but I clipped the grass :-\the next thing I rejoined the track bounced off the hedge back into the path of Phil I'm really sorry Phil!
Cant wait for the next one :scooter: Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: Alessandro Isacchini on February 04, 2019, 02:11:50 PM +0000 With a little surprise I do the pole instead of a Mercedes (maybe Axel had full tank in qualy :D)
My target was his slipstream after the first straight and try to go as much as possible with him, but after I saw his mistake at the Source I could gain time on the group Not easy this F1 55 and 625 was very understeer but stable in the fast corners, and my advantage was that there is a only braking zone :laugh: :angel: Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: Phil Thornton on February 04, 2019, 09:25:54 PM +0000 I've loaded the chassis the drivers used into the token calculator spreadsheet. For the next race the available tokens will be as declared in the table below (the table will also appear in the next race announcement). The calculated values are automated but selecting the cars is a manual process so please check your tokens to make sure I haven't made a silly error. There was no token overspend for this round so no one is disqualified.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: Jeep on February 05, 2019, 12:52:11 AM +0000 Well, Not my finest hour I guess. Really sorry about the mayhem at Eau Rouge. It became a Pinball simulation and ended the race of a number of drivers. Not really sure what would have made it any better. (Other than not crashing in the 1st place). I couldn't just sit there after the crash. Had I ended up off track then yes, but parked stationary on track on the climb up from Eau Rouge wasn't going to make it any better either. :(
Don't really know what else to say but obviously apologies are in order, even if only to say sorry for putting a wheel on the grass in the first place.. As far as the incident with Francesco at the Masta Kink. I consider I was through. I frequently glanced right on the approach and couldn't see him. From the replay I was visible from his cockpit looking straight ahead (With Default FOV). I fully expected him to follow me through and retake the position on the run down to Stavalot. But either way I'm sorry it ended his race. As I said in the Rouen thread. That was my last 67 outing for a while and likewise this was my last run in the 55's. Sadly my wife is very ill and more and more of my time is now spent caring for her. I may appear for the odd race if it's a track I'm familiar with but it's unlikely I'll be doing much GPL in the forseeable future. Hopefully 2020 will be a better year. TTFN John. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: francesco on February 05, 2019, 06:45:03 AM +0000 Quote As far as the incident with Francesco at the Masta Kink. I consider I was through. I frequently glanced right on the approach and couldn't see him. From the replay I was visible from his cockpit looking straight ahead (With Default FOV). I fully expected him to follow me through and retake the position on the run down to Stavalot. I have seen your wheel too late to react.In this point my attention is on the point of gas releasing and the angle of entrance so no time to check the mirror. I meant that if you were waiting for the next straight ,the result was the same without cousing my exit.Your action have nothing illegal but the point is very dangerous for other.I could face the curve in the usual way but for sure with an incident.But either way I'm sorry it ended his race. Anyway is more important to wish the best to your wife. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: bagrupp on February 05, 2019, 09:35:40 AM +0000 Sadly my wife is very ill and more and more of my time is now spent caring for her. I may appear for the odd race if it's a track I'm familiar with but it's unlikely I'll be doing much GPL in the forseeable future. Hopefully 2020 will be a better year. TTFN John. all the best for your Wife Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: Clive Loynes on February 05, 2019, 10:08:29 AM +0000 Sadly my wife is very ill and more and more of my time is now spent caring for her. I may appear for the odd race if it's a track I'm familiar with but it's unlikely I'll be doing much GPL in the forseeable future. Hopefully 2020 will be a better year. TTFN John. Sorry to hear about your wife's illness John. All the best for the future. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: Alessandro Isacchini on February 05, 2019, 12:23:12 PM +0000 Sad to read this, all the best for your the future John
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: fpolicardi on February 05, 2019, 01:14:09 PM +0000 As I said in the Rouen thread. That was my last 67 outing for a while and likewise this was my last run in the 55's. Sadly my wife is very ill and more and more of my time is now spent caring for her. I may appear for the odd race if it's a track I'm familiar with but it's unlikely I'll be doing much GPL in the forseeable future. Hopefully 2020 will be a better year. TTFN John. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: AnGex on February 05, 2019, 04:07:04 PM +0000 Wish you and your wife all the best, John!
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: Phil Thornton on February 05, 2019, 05:42:54 PM +0000 Sadly my wife is very ill and more and more of my time is now spent caring for her. Very sorry to hear this John. Best wishes to your wife.Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Spa - Feb 3 Post by: EvilClive on February 05, 2019, 07:09:53 PM +0000 sorry to hear about your wife John. But it does prove that there are some things more important then GPL incidents ;)
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