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Title: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: Phil Thornton on February 13, 2019, 11:55:36 PM +0000
Season 34 – 1955 Grand Prix – Round 3 – Brands Hatch

The third race in the 1955 Grand Prix series takes us to Brands Hatch in Kent, England. The first race to be held at Brands Hatch took place on 16th April 1950, it featured 500cc cars competing over a version of the "Indy" circuit (without Druids Hill Bend) in an anti-clockwise direction. During the 1950s the track was extended to include Druids Hill bend, Paddock Hill bend and the racing direction was changed to clockwise. It wasn't until 1960 that the full Grand Prix circuit was created. The British Grand Prix has been held at Brands Hatch on 12 occasions and the European Grand Prix has been held there twice.  The 1966 Grand Prix was won by Jack Brabham and the 1968 race by Jo Siffert driving a Brabham Repco BT19 and a Lotus-Cosworth 49B respectively.  There have also been numerous non-championship Formula 1 races most notably the Race of Champions in 1967 which was won by Dan Gurney in the Eagle-Weslake T1G.
 
Please read the championship specific rules on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=664&theme=6).

Race listiGOR
ServerUKGPL_4
IP addressSee IGOR
Date17-02-2019
Trackbrands67 (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=6810)
Mod55GP with 60fpsV2newmod
Damage PRO long
Race time~ 21:30 UK time
Qualifying 20:45 UK time - 45 minutes
Race length25 laps
Replay here (ftp://ftp.ukgpl9.co.uk:32122/Season34/55GP)

Please restrict chat to emergency messages only including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Password: see above (#post_event_password)
Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=664&theme=6)

Handicapping and chassis allocation.
This season the 1955 Grand Prix cars will again be using a token system which allows drivers to purchase any chassis of their choice for a given number of tokens as published on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=664&theme=6). Drivers classed as Amateurs will be allocated an additional 10 tokens.  The token allocation will not be managed in SRou this season so (unlike the 67F1 Works and 67F1 Privateer divisions) the tokens available to each driver will not appear in the championship table (when the mouse pointer is hovered over the driver's total).  Rather, the available tokens will be published in the race announcement. See table below.

Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver        Tokens  Status
Alessandro Isacchini
8
Pro
bagrupp
5
Pro
Clive Loynes
20
Pro
Cookie
2
Pro
DLogan
10
Pro
EvilClive
15
Pro
fpolicardi
10
Pro
Gareth
10
Pro
Jeep
0
Pro
uli
10
Pro
francesco
15
Am
Phil Thornton
15
Am
Rich Welsh
13
Am
tagomago
30
Am


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: Phil Thornton on February 15, 2019, 03:36:32 PM +0000
Practice server is up on IGOR if anyone is interested.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: EvilClive on February 15, 2019, 05:08:13 PM +0000
Don't think I have run 55's on this track before, so might drop in this evening for a quick recce  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: Clive Loynes on February 15, 2019, 06:50:38 PM +0000
Don't think I have run 55's on this track before, so might drop in this evening for a quick recce  ;)


I'll get my spies to keep a lookout!   :ninja:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: EvilClive on February 15, 2019, 07:40:35 PM +0000
No privacy anywhere these days!! No wonder Mrs Fujikawa went into hiding!!!  ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: tagomago on February 17, 2019, 08:14:13 PM +0000
HI all ... and have a nice ride today at Brands

Cheers ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: Clive Loynes on February 17, 2019, 08:31:01 PM +0000
HI all ... and have a nice ride today at Brands

Cheers ;)

Cheers Tago,  you too.  In the Gordini? :scooter:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: tagomago on February 17, 2019, 08:40:08 PM +0000
Right ... for sentimental reasons ... I learned to drive with an R8 ... similar to dauphine and gordini

This gordini is faster than my loved R8  :laugh:



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: Clive Loynes on February 17, 2019, 08:51:30 PM +0000
Right ... for sentimental reasons ... I learned to drive with an R8 ... similar to dauphine and gordini

This gordini is faster than my loved R8  :laugh:



Not by much!   ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: EvilClive on February 17, 2019, 09:53:12 PM +0000
The Gordini may be faster, but it appears to have an unbreakable magnetic attraction to straw bales.... as I discovered after a couple of laps  :-\


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: francesco on February 17, 2019, 10:32:02 PM +0000
After a wake up at 5 and one day on the ski was an hard race,with Phil hunting me, but i was able to end the race without big error.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: Phil Thornton on February 17, 2019, 10:39:33 PM +0000
I've loaded the chassis the drivers used into the token calculator spreadsheet.  For the next race the available tokens will be as declared in the table below (the table will also appear in the next race announcement).  The calculated values are automated but selecting the cars is a manual process so please check your tokens to make sure I haven't made a silly error.  There was no token overspend for this round so no one is disqualified.

Driver        Tokens  Status
Alessandro Isacchini
13
Pro
bagrupp
15
Pro
Clive Loynes
18
Pro
Cookie
2
Pro
DLogan
10
Pro
EvilClive
25
Pro
fpolicardi
10
Pro
Gareth
10
Pro
Jeep
0
Pro
uli
5
Pro
francesco
20
Am
Phil Thornton
20
Am
Rich Welsh
8
Am
tagomago
40
Am


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: Phil Thornton on February 17, 2019, 10:42:37 PM +0000
After a wake up at 5 and one day on the ski was an hard race,with Phil hunting me, but i was able to end the race without big error.
Yes well done Fran. I tried to pressure you into a mistake but you were driving very well. In the end it was me that made the mistakes. However it was still my best race for quite a while. Finishing without being lapped is always a success for me  :thumbup2:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: Clive Loynes on February 17, 2019, 10:46:14 PM +0000
The Gordini may be faster, but it appears to have an unbreakable magnetic attraction to straw bales.... as I discovered after a couple of laps  :-\

LOL  At least the straw bales didn't cost you any Thornton Dollars!

@Fran  Well done that Soggy!

@ Phil thanks for the update.  Thankfully my calcs have matched so far.  ;D


As for the race, I made a good start and took the lead, only to mess it up later on lap one.  That dropped me behind Uli and Alessandro.
Uli's Lancia looked to be a bit of a handful and it wasn't long before he took to the grass at Druids.

I then had to chase Alessandro, who very helpfully also went off, thus putting me back in the lead.

At half distance I thought that I had it but Uli was probably waiting for the fuel load to come down and give him back the car that he qualified with.
I had had a 7 second lead for quite a while but suddenly that was gone and there was nothing that I could do to stop Uli driving past.  I did my best to stay with him, hoping for another error, but there was nothing coming.

In the last part of the race I had no brakes at all at Druids.  I suspect that Uli was much the same.

Grats to Uli and off to Hockenheim for some practice.  Don't think that I have done that one in 55s.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: Phil Thornton on February 17, 2019, 11:10:29 PM +0000
I'm not going to be around in 17th March so I'm going to have to ask one of the other moderators to provide a server for Round 5. It would be easier if Round 5 was at a circuit we've used before so I'm proposing to swap venues for Rounds 5 and 6.  The new calendar would be Albi on 17th March and Dundrod on 31st March. Please post something here or PM me if you have any objections.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: francesco on February 18, 2019, 07:11:53 AM +0000
Quote
Finishing without being lapped is always a success for me 
Was a success also for me to finish without blow the engine :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: Alessandro Isacchini on February 18, 2019, 12:38:53 PM +0000
25 laps of hard work and no fun at all for me, I was passenger of my car, not the opposite,  and no possible to drive and push
After 2 laps I was in red zone with brake, ant so until end, only me?
Unfortunately this mod seems is good only for long and fast tracks like Spa/Monza etc.. but not with tortuous tracks like Brands, in this period I must run with an old and weak pedals and maybe the cause is this also.

See you next!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: francesco on February 18, 2019, 03:46:26 PM +0000
Quote
After 2 laps I was in red zone with brake, ant so until end, only me?
I think yes,for me no problem with the brake.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: Rich Welsh on February 18, 2019, 05:25:10 PM +0000
Although off the pace I had a solid race and apart from one brief excursion onto the grass at South Bank made no real mistakes,which is surprising as my fps was dropping down to as little as 17 and never got above 20???
Just tried it now offline and it was at 60 all the way round and I haven't changed a thing .Any ideas why this is anyone?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: Phil Thornton on February 18, 2019, 05:55:45 PM +0000
Rich

At the start of the race my FPS dropped to 20 for the first couple of laps which is a bit unnerving as I was trying to stay out of trouble. However once the field had spread out a little and there was only ever 1 or 2 cars in my field of vision my FPS was a rock solid 60.

I'm going to do some testing with the AI off-line to see if I can address the issue. I suspect I've just got the graphics turned up too high. Once I have a solution I can set up my server with 15 or 16 AI cars (just to check the FPS at the start, not to race against them) to see if I have cured the problem.  I'll let you know how I get on and when I'm going to do the server test. Won't be tonight but hopefully before the weekend.

Regards

Phil


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: Cookie on February 18, 2019, 06:19:09 PM +0000
Please try the opposite first, as I know that you have a modern pc with lots of power.
Gpl is not recognized as 3D app, so the GPU stays in idle!!!

Stefan Roes has made a good guide for nvidia GPUs (http://gplworld.org/easy-installation-guide.html).

I had the same with AMD RX 580 and found a solution with wattman setting a high power profile.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: uli on February 18, 2019, 07:27:47 PM +0000
Congratulations Clive and Alessandro and all finishers
Fine to be back with the 55 F1 having my first win in this GPL mod ever :)
At start I lost 2 places and when I spun in Druids (4th lap) from second to 4th. It was not easy to drive because of a lot wrapping probs, especially at T1 and nearly the whole race long I had fps up to 52 again and again.
Nevertheless the race was big fun, a lot of close, fair and exciting fighting, down form pole to 4th and on top again in the end. THX for  racing with you all, especially to the Bugatti gang ;)
looking forward what ever that means for the 55 cars in Hockenheim


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: Rich Welsh on February 18, 2019, 08:13:24 PM +0000
Rich

At the start of the race my FPS dropped to 20 for the first couple of laps which is a bit unnerving as I was trying to stay out of trouble. However once the field had spread out a little and there was only ever 1 or 2 cars in my field of vision my FPS was a rock solid 60.

I'm going to do some testing with the AI off-line to see if I can address the issue. I suspect I've just got the graphics turned up too high. Once I have a solution I can set up my server with 15 or 16 AI cars (just to check the FPS at the start, not to race against them) to see if I have cured the problem.  I'll let you know how I get on and when I'm going to do the server test. Won't be tonight but hopefully before the weekend.

Regards

Phil

Thanks Phil Ill keep an eye out for the results


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: Rich Welsh on February 18, 2019, 08:15:53 PM +0000
Please try the opposite first, as I know that you have a modern pc with lots of power.
Gpl is not recognized as 3D app, so the GPU stays in idle!!!

Stefan Roes has made a good guide for nvidia GPUs (http://gplworld.org/easy-installation-guide.html).

I had the same with AMD RX 580 and found a solution with wattman setting a high power profile.


Thanks Cookie Ill have a look at that


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: Phil Thornton on February 18, 2019, 11:00:23 PM +0000
Stefan Roes has made a good guide for nvidia GPUs (http://gplworld.org/easy-installation-guide.html).
Thanks for the tip Axel. I'll have a look tomorrow (hopefully in time for the 66 race!)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: fpolicardi on February 20, 2019, 12:33:10 AM +0000
Although off the pace I had a solid race and apart from one brief excursion onto the grass at South Bank made no real mistakes,which is surprising as my fps was dropping down to as little as 17 and never got above 20???
Just tried it now offline and it was at 60 all the way round and I haven't changed a thing .Any ideas why this is anyone?
I hadn't any problem with fps, but I have the Voodoo/low res. version that you can find further down in the linked download page.

Ciao



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: Phil Thornton on February 22, 2019, 09:14:32 PM +0000
Stefan Roes has made a good guide for nvidia GPUs (http://gplworld.org/easy-installation-guide.html).
Thanks for the tip Axel. I'll have a look tomorrow (hopefully in time for the 66 race!)
Had a play with the graphics card settings as per Stefan's guide but I can't get the 55mod working as well as the other mods. The only way I can get 60fps at the start with a full grid of 55 cars is to turn the "Detail Bias" down in the graphics options (on the GPL interface not Nvidea utility). It doesn't affect the game much because it is the cars in the distance that loose their definition. Until I can spend some more time fiddling with the vast array of graphics settings in the Nvidea utilities, I'll have to race the 55GP cars with the detail bias turned down. 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: Phil Thornton on February 22, 2019, 09:19:55 PM +0000
The new calendar would be Albi on 17th March and Dundrod on 31st March. Please post something here or PM me if you have any objections.
No complaints about the calendar swap so I've instigated it.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: Clive Loynes on February 22, 2019, 10:14:15 PM +0000
The new calendar would be Albi on 17th March and Dundrod on 31st March. Please post something here or PM me if you have any objections.
No complaints about the calendar swap so I've instigated it.

Sorry Phil, I meant to say that it makes no difference as far as I'm concerned.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: tagomago on February 25, 2019, 08:56:27 PM +0000
Glad to finish at Brands ... I trained with 36 fps and although Clive told me the circuit is demanding with the graphics, I did not lose much at that frame rate ... nevertheless when entering the race I remembered to use 60 fps and that made it difficult for me to drive

Happy to shoot and finish ... many thx all for racing :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: Clive Loynes on February 27, 2019, 08:14:38 PM +0000
For some reason I can't get Hockenheim to run on my server so a practice server would be nice if possible.

Ta


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: Cookie on February 27, 2019, 09:49:29 PM +0000
For some reason I can't get Hockenheim to run on my server so a practice server would be nice if possible.

Ta

Clive here (https://www.sendspace.com/file/oewipc) is my server track directory of hockenhm


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Brands Hatch - Feb 17
Post by: Clive Loynes on February 27, 2019, 10:01:24 PM +0000
Thanks Axel, that has done the trick.   :thumbup1: